AHA! So we have the names and approx dates of birth of some children. Any one of their birth certificates will give the mother's maiden name, so you can get to the correct Elizabeth. cheers Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Mel Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:42 Subject: Re: [WRY] Frank FARRAND + Elizabeth ??? Hi Barbara: Thanks for your response. I had tried elimination using the 1861 census without success, BUT I didn't think to go beyond that. Your email triggered that action. Looking at the 1871 census I found both James Nield SYKES and Joseph BRIER and their spouses. Unfortunately what this left me with is that both Frank FARRAND's married the respective Elizabeth's, so, the problem still remains. Does anyone have sources that may identify which Frank married each Elizabeth? Localities for each marriage may be the only way to sort them out? The Frank (Francis) I am looking for resided in Dalton in 1861 and 1881. The family seems to have been totally missed in 1871 as neither they or any of the children can be located. They re-appear in 1881 but Elizabeth has passed away and Frank has remarried. Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of barbara johnston Sent: January 7, 2010 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WRY] Frank FARouldRAND + Elizabeth ??? you could try doing it by elimation! See if you can find a James N Sykes married to an Ann or an Elizabeth and a Joseph Brier married to an Elizabeth or a Martha. In the right area and the right census you might be able to eliminate which one did not marry an Elizabeth if you get my drift. Regards Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: [WRY] Frank FARRAND + Elizabeth ??? > > Hello List: > > Hoping someone can help. > > I have a Francis FARRAND born 1825 in Lepton in my tree > > In 1851 he is living with his parents in Lepton > In 1861 he is living with wife Elizabeth in Dalton and going by forename > "Frank". She is also born in Kirkheaton. > > There are two marriages of a Frank FARRAND in June qtr 1852 in > Huddersfield > Reg'n District. Unfortunately there are Elizabeth's in both pages > > Marriages Jun 1852 > Farrand Frank Huddersfield 9a 347 > Fox Ann Huddersfield 9a 347 > Kaye Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 347 > Sykes James Neild Huddersfield 9a 347 > > Marriages Jun 1852 > Brier Joseph Huddersfield 9a 360 > Farrand Frank Huddersfield 9a 360 > Hepworth Martha Huddersfield 9a 360 > MCDONALD Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 360 > > Problem is I can't identify which Elizabeth Married Frank. >> KAYE is a fairly common surname in Kirkheaton . McDONALD, I think, is > rare. > > Some years back I transcribed the FARRAND entries from the Kirkheaton PR's > and do not have a marriage of Frank in 1852. Either they didn't marry at > the > Kirkheaton Parish Church or I missed the entry. >> There are too many James SYKES listed in the 1861 census in Huddersfield > to search through and I don't know his age. > > The only Joseph BRIER that appears in 1861 is in Halifax and the wife is > not present. > > As Frank is not in my direct ancestry lines I'm not prepared to purchase a > child's birth certificate. > > Does anyone have any Marriage info from other sources that might clear > this > up. > > Mel Smith > > Whitby, Ontario, Canada > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message