Sue, Lancashire Record Office have the original registers and microfiche copies for St Mary's Gisburn, and the official registers are held at Lancashire Register Office at Preston, not at Harrogate. Post 1974, Gisburn, although in Yorkshire, came under administration by Lancashire. I checked the marriage at Lancashire Record Office yesterday. It is as follows Entry Number 179. Parish Church, Gisburn, 24th December 1850 Joseph LAWSON, full age, Bachelor, Farmer, Huggin Ing, Father = Thomas LAWSON, Farmer Jane BOOTHMAN, full age, Spinster, --- Gisburn Coates, Father = James BOOTHMAN, Farmer Both signed their names. Married by Licence, by R Jones, Vicar. Witnesses Adam LAWSON, and Elizabeth BOOTHMAN You can get a print from the microfiche for only 50p instead of having to pay £7 for a certificate. They also had the microfiche at Colne Library where you could also get a print, but the library has just been "modernized" and only re-opened two weeks ago, so I don't know if they still have the same resources. They certainly have a lot less books now. It seems to be the fashion that libraries are doing away with books and fitting computers everywhere. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Regan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:19 AM Subject: [WRY] Strange or incorrect census entry? Help, please! >I have been puzzling over an entry in the 1851 census (the actual image) for > the two participants in a marriage, Jane Boothman and Joseph Lawson. Until > I saw it, I had so much evidence as to the parentage of both Jane and Joseph > that I had no doubt that I had identified the correct couple. According to > Ancestry, Lancashire BMD and Free BMD the said Jane and Joseph were married > in Gisburne Oct-Dec 1850 but of course the fathers are not given. I have the > Gisburne microfiche for the period but would you believe, although Jane and > Joseph are in the index under the same number, that page of 15 entries is > missing...aargh! > > > > This is the 1851 entry: > > > > 1851 Gisburne Cotes Farm > > > Boothman James Head,Widr, 60 Farmer of 80 acres Waddington > Jane Dau, 26 unmarried Farmer's Daughter Downham > Thomas Son Farmer's Son Downham > Hannah Dau, 14 Farmer's Daughter Downham > William Son, 11 Gisburne > > > Joseph Son, 7 Gisburne > > > Lawson Joseph Visitor, 26 Farmer's Son Gargrave > > > > > > So here we have an unmarried Jane Boothman being visited by Joseph Lawson a > married farmer's son, who I am certain has been her husband since the last > quarter of 1850. It seems an unlikely mistake for any of the family to make > or maybe whoever gave the information was drunk! > > > > As an example of the evidence I have, Jane's mother's maiden name was Hayes > and Jane had a younger brother, Thomas Hayes Boothman, and named one of her > own sons, William Hayes Lawson. Also Jane and Joseph's eldest daughter Mary > Anne Lawson was born at Gisburne Coates in May 1851 (where Jane's widowed > father, was still living). > > > > There are so many certificates I really need to buy and I don't want to have > to spend money on one when I am 99.99% convinced I already have the answers! > > > > > Can anyone explain this strange census entry? Any thoughts or ideas would > be very much appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > > > Sue > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Brenda, how very very kind of you. I live in London so can't take advantage of the free resources back home. It's great to have my conclusions so comprehensively confirmed but I don't suppose we'll ever know why Jane was put down as Boothman rather than Lawson. Does one forget that a member of the family was married only a few months earlier particularly if she is heavily pregnant?! Thank you very much Cheers Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Genlist2 Sent: 20 January 2010 10:05 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WRY] Strange or incorrect census entry? Help, please! Sue, Lancashire Record Office have the original registers and microfiche copies for St Mary's Gisburn, and the official registers are held at Lancashire Register Office at Preston, not at Harrogate. Post 1974, Gisburn, although in Yorkshire, came under administration by Lancashire. I checked the marriage at Lancashire Record Office yesterday. It is as follows Entry Number 179. Parish Church, Gisburn, 24th December 1850 Joseph LAWSON, full age, Bachelor, Farmer, Huggin Ing, Father = Thomas LAWSON, Farmer Jane BOOTHMAN, full age, Spinster, --- Gisburn Coates, Father = James BOOTHMAN, Farmer Both signed their names. Married by Licence, by R Jones, Vicar. Witnesses Adam LAWSON, and Elizabeth BOOTHMAN You can get a print from the microfiche for only 50p instead of having to pay £7 for a certificate. They also had the microfiche at Colne Library where you could also get a print, but the library has just been "modernized" and only re-opened two weeks ago, so I don't know if they still have the same resources. They certainly have a lot less books now. It seems to be the fashion that libraries are doing away with books and fitting computers everywhere. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Regan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:19 AM Subject: [WRY] Strange or incorrect census entry? Help, please! >I have been puzzling over an entry in the 1851 census (the actual image) for > the two participants in a marriage, Jane Boothman and Joseph Lawson. Until > I saw it, I had so much evidence as to the parentage of both Jane and Joseph > that I had no doubt that I had identified the correct couple. According to > Ancestry, Lancashire BMD and Free BMD the said Jane and Joseph were married > in Gisburne Oct-Dec 1850 but of course the fathers are not given. I have the > Gisburne microfiche for the period but would you believe, although Jane and > Joseph are in the index under the same number, that page of 15 entries is > missing...aargh! > > > > This is the 1851 entry: > > > > 1851 Gisburne Cotes Farm > > > Boothman James Head,Widr, 60 Farmer of 80 acres Waddington > Jane Dau, 26 unmarried Farmer's Daughter Downham > Thomas Son Farmer's Son Downham > Hannah Dau, 14 Farmer's Daughter Downham > William Son, 11 Gisburne > > > Joseph Son, 7 Gisburne > > > Lawson Joseph Visitor, 26 Farmer's Son Gargrave > > > > > > So here we have an unmarried Jane Boothman being visited by Joseph Lawson a > married farmer's son, who I am certain has been her husband since the last > quarter of 1850. It seems an unlikely mistake for any of the family to make > or maybe whoever gave the information was drunk! > > > > As an example of the evidence I have, Jane's mother's maiden name was Hayes > and Jane had a younger brother, Thomas Hayes Boothman, and named one of her > own sons, William Hayes Lawson. Also Jane and Joseph's eldest daughter Mary > Anne Lawson was born at Gisburne Coates in May 1851 (where Jane's widowed > father, was still living). > > > > There are so many certificates I really need to buy and I don't want to have > to spend money on one when I am 99.99% convinced I already have the answers! > > > > > Can anyone explain this strange census entry? Any thoughts or ideas would > be very much appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > > > Sue > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2634 - Release Date: 01/20/10 09:12:00