On 6 Nov 2011 at 14:14, Gordon Dyson wrote: > Can anyone help with the parents/ancestors of above Amos Dyson, born > approx 1811 ? He was later a Baptist Minister. > > 1841 Census says born "Staffordshire" > > 1851 says born Rawcliffe, Rotherham > > 1861 says born Almondbury, Huddersfield. > > Married Mary HARNEW, 4 Jun 1836 at Thorne, near Doncaster.. > > There are a couple of possible baptisms in 1811 at Huddersfield, but > as far as I know, Baptists did not baptise their children untill they > were 10 or 12 years old ?? > He could, of course, have converted to the baptist cause later in life. Because he was a Baptist minister doesn't necessarily mean that his parents were Baptists also. You must remember that people dropped in and out of various denominations with regularity. I suggest the 1841 census (which is barely readable in the where born column) and 1851 are probably administrative errors by the enumerator. His wife appears to have been born at Rawcliffe. You don't mention the 1871, by which time he was widowed, but that states quite clearly his birth place as "Armitage Fold", which is near Berry Brow and is/was in the Parish of Almondbury. Therefore, the 1861 census is likely to be accurate. He died in 1873 at Aylesbury registration district, where he had been a Baptist minister at Haddenham, Bucks. I am sure I don't have to tell you that DYSON is a very common surname indeed in the Colne Valley - so good luck! However, the IGI does have an Amos DYSON, son of James and Salley [sic], whose birth (not baptism) appears to have been recorded at Salendine Nook Meeting House-Particular Baptist, Quarmby Cum Lindley, on 4 Sept 1811 (batch no. C093571). This is a well-known nonconformist chapel in the Huddersfield area and easily found with Google. There is a history online. Could I point out again that the IGI entry says it was a BIRTH record and not a christening? So this wouldn't preclude him from being your man! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Thank you very much, Roy, I am now 99% sure that the BIRTH you gave me, 4 Sep 1811 at Salendine Nook is the correct one. I did say that I had found 2 IGI entries, one of which is the same date as yours, at Huddersfield, (Parish Church ?) also parent same as James & Sally, but the one I found was Batch No 0442828. ?? I presume that his "Birth" is in both Registers ? Do you agree that the marriage of his parents, is the one - 15 Apr 1811, James DYSON to "Sarah" LEE at Huddersfield, (birth 6 months later ?) This Amos is the Gt.grandfather of Sir Frank Watson DYSON, Astronomer Royal. Thank you again, Regards, Gordon. On 6 November 2011 17:35, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 6 Nov 2011 at 14:14, Gordon Dyson wrote: > >> Can anyone help with the parents/ancestors of above Amos Dyson, born >> approx 1811 ?  He was later a Baptist Minister. >> >> 1841 Census says born "Staffordshire" >> >> 1851  says born Rawcliffe, Rotherham >> >> 1861 says born Almondbury, Huddersfield. >> >> Married Mary HARNEW, 4 Jun 1836 at Thorne, near Doncaster.. >> >> There are a couple of possible baptisms in 1811 at Huddersfield,  but >> as far as I know, Baptists did not baptise their children untill they >> were 10 or 12 years old ?? > > > He could, of course, have converted to the baptist cause later in life. Because he was a > Baptist minister doesn't necessarily mean that his parents were Baptists also. You must > remember that people dropped in and out of various denominations with regularity. > > I suggest the 1841 census (which is barely readable in the where born column) and 1851 > are probably administrative errors by the enumerator. His wife appears to have been born at > Rawcliffe. > > You don't mention the 1871, by which time he was widowed, but that states quite clearly > his birth place as "Armitage Fold", which is near Berry Brow and is/was in the Parish of > Almondbury. Therefore, the 1861 census is likely to be accurate. He died in 1873 at > Aylesbury registration district, where he had been a Baptist minister at Haddenham, Bucks. > > I am sure I don't have to tell you that DYSON is a very common surname indeed in the > Colne Valley - so good luck! However, the IGI does have an Amos DYSON, son of James > and Salley [sic], whose birth (not baptism) appears to have been recorded at Salendine > Nook Meeting House-Particular Baptist, Quarmby Cum Lindley, on 4 Sept 1811 (batch no. > C093571). This is a well-known nonconformist chapel in the Huddersfield area and easily > found with Google. There is a history online. > > Could I point out again that the IGI entry says it was a BIRTH record and not a christening? > So this wouldn't preclude him from being your man! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >