Hi Lenny I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if possible without ordering both marriage certificates. Hopefully my question is now clear. Kind regards Ian Ian H Burns Monkton Combe, Bath -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of west-riding-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ian I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 >I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >show on the > 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >the rope and twine maker. > > > If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these > two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to > order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear > from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. > > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath

Ian: What you do is request a reference search for the certificate from the GRO. Assuming you know something specific about the one you are interested in, in this case perhaps the mother's name as the fathers are the same. You then provide both Louisa's GRO reference numbers and prioritize them by stating listing them in whatever order you pick. The GRO then looks at the first one and if the references match (i.e. mothers name) then they go no further and send you that first certificate and that is all you pay for. If the first one doesn't match they then look at the next one in the list to find a match. You pay about 3 gbp for each failed search and the full 7 gbp for the correct one. It has been a while since I found the need to order a certificate and I am not certain on the fees today but the failed search used to be slightly less than half the full cost of a certificate Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian H Burns Sent: August 2, 2011 7:19 AM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 Hi Lenny I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if possible without ordering both marriage certificates. Hopefully my question is now clear. Kind regards Ian Ian H Burns Monkton Combe, Bath -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of west-riding-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ian I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 >I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >show on the > 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >the rope and twine maker. > > > If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these > two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to > order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear > from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. > > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message