Hi Ian I shall save you some time and money, the marriage entries are available on ancestry.com. I did a search for both marriages, both indexes came up, however the actual marriage entry as is shown on a marriage cert comes up for Louisa Scott to George Chesworth, and guess what that is the Walter Scott who is the rope maker :) If you need any help finding it let me know. All the best Louise Sent from my iPhone On 2 Aug 2011, at 18:16, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Ian H Burns) > 2. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Mel Smith) > 3. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (hilary) > 4. Hunslet and Hunslet Moor (Stash) > 5. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Lenny Beaumont) > 6. Re: Hunslet and Hunslet Moor (John Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:19:27 +0100 > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601cc5106$0a8f5140$1fadf3c0$@burnsgenealogy.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:06:40 -0400 > From: "Mel Smith" <melvynsmith@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01cc510c$a40acb50$ec2061f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ian: > > What you do is request a reference search for the certificate from the GRO. > > Assuming you know something specific about the one you are interested in, in > this case perhaps the mother's name as the fathers are the same. > > You then provide both Louisa's GRO reference numbers and prioritize them by > stating listing them in whatever order you pick. > > The GRO then looks at the first one and if the references match (i.e. > mothers name) then they go no further and send you that first certificate > and that is all you pay for. If the first one doesn't match they then look > at the next one in the list to find a match. You pay about 3 gbp for each > failed search and the full 7 gbp for the correct one. > > It has been a while since I found the need to order a certificate and I am > not certain on the fees today but the failed search used to be slightly less > than half the full cost of a certificate > > Mel Smith > Whitby, Ontario, Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian H Burns > Sent: August 2, 2011 7:19 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:54:28 +0100 > From: "hilary" <hilaryblanford@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E22242597C3D4A7CAD1B8652638D6C2C@your7ifoxyzflq> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > You can do this from the uk gov web site by clicking on the GRO ref NOT > known button. You will then be able to specify your requirements on the > next page. You appear to have the mother's maiden name and this will ensure > you receive the correct birth cert > HB > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian H Burns > Sent: 02 August 2011 12:19 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:44:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) > From: "Stash" <stashali@yahoo.com> > Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4E381B6E.00000A.05548@STASHALI-PC> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? > Thank you! > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:00:32 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DB0E1CB69CBC4631B496736BFFF902F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I think you are a little bit new on this, so my apologies if I sounded a > like bit harsh > All you need to do is tell the register Office that there are two possible > dates ( give them the periods) and tell them that you want the birth > certificate of Louisa who whose parents are Walter Scott / Mary Hannah > Burns. If they have it, they will send you it, if not, they will return your > cheque. You would be very unlucky to find x2 Louisa's with same parents > names > > With regards the marriage - you can either look at the 1911 census for > Louisa married to Barrow or /Chesworth and check her age and place of birth > to see if she fits your criteria. I have not got access to the 1911 census, > so I cant look it up for you. You could ask someone on the Rootes web list > to do a look up for you > Alternately, tell the Register Office that you are wanting the marriage > certtificate of Louisa Scottt who has a father Walter who occupation is a > rope twiner and tell them the two possible dates. Give them her age also. > The same rules apply as per the birth certificate, you will not be charged > if they cant provide the certificate. > The rule in all this is, the more information you tell them, the less chance > to obtaining the wrong certificates > Some Local Register Office will do up to a five year search if you ask them. > I hope that helps you > Regards > Lenny > Researching the Beaumonts of Yorkshire > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:16:26 +0100 > From: "John Hall" <john.r_hall@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <19718796B05848E1AFFF0FCAC06842E0@JohnHallPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hunslet Moor is an area of open space in Hunslet. At the beginning of the > 20th century it consisted of a public park, a bowling green plus > recreational land. What is there now I'm afraid I don't know. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stash > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:44 PM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > > Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? > Thank you! > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160 > *******************************************