Huddersfield Irish concentrated on the poorer/slum areas of town; top of town; Manchester Street and bottom of Town around what is now the Sports Centre. Why did they come here? Huddersfield was a boom town for about 100 years 1840 - 1940ish. Once they were established then family and friends could follow them over. There was a large Irish community, a Catholic Church from the 1860s, a Catholic school attached to the church. Masses said in Gaelic for a time, and the largest concentration of Gaelic speakers outside London, in England, for a while. Once links were established people tended to follow each other. ======================================== Message Received: Dec 10 2011, 12:35 AM From: "Chris" <cd-broscomb@tiscali.co.uk> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [WRY] The McGuire family, Huddersfield Mel, thanks for looking. As you wrote, Find my Past hasn't got my McGuires so I wonder if it is based around the S&N copies. Ancestry certainly does list them and must have used a different set of copies. I used to find their a better quality than many on my CDs. You mentioned the number of Irish in Huddersfield. I also noticed that and they were concentrated in 3 or 4 areas - They probably came because of the potato famine but why Huddersfield? Regards Chris B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Smith" <melvynsmith@gmail.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] The McGuire family, Huddersfield > Chris > > > I looked on FindMyPast and did not see them listed. > Also looked at Manchester Street and all the residences around the Spread > Eagle Inn and again did not see them. Granted I was looking at the > transcripts and not images. > All the addresses seemed to be listed. If I remember correctly the Spread > Eagle inn was listed as 16 Manchester St > It was surprising to see that many of the heads of households were Irish. > Perhaps an Irish area of Huddersfield. > > Sorry > Mel > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Sent: December 9, 2011 5:11 PM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] The McGuire family, Huddersfield > > Hi again, > I'm on my third search through the 1861 census for the Huddersfield > District > and realised that the part of Manchester Street where the McGuires lived > in > 1851 appears to be missing. > They were near the Spread Eagle Inn on Manchester Street. It existed in on > the census in 1851 and again in 1871 but it's not on the 1861 CD. > Ancestry confirms the McGuires existence in 1861 as Michael and Emma > McQuire > so I can only think the area has been omitted from the S&N Yorkshire set. > Can someone help with an image? > Regards > ChrisB > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Sent: 08 December 2011 10:05 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] The McGuire family, Huddersfield > > I have the 1961 West Riding Census on CD and have been searching for the > MCGUIRE family in Huddersfield. > > The individuals involved are > > Michael age 34 born Ireland > > Emma 30, wife born Dalton/Almondsbury > > John 11' born Huddersfield > > Arthur4, > > Ann 2' > > and, maybe, Mary an infant. > > In 1851 they were in Manchester St near the Spread Eagle Inn but they must > have moved(?). > > Would some kind person have a look for them and let me know the > schedule/page etc? > > > > Regards > > Chris B > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To add to Peter's excellent explanation, Huddersfield was on a direct railway line from Liverpool, built before the famine. Also being a woollen town helped as cotton was in trouble during the American Civil War. But family links were important. I know there was a sizeable Irish contingent in Stockport. HTH Andy. At 06:49 11/12/2011, Peter wrote: >Huddersfield Irish concentrated on the poorer/slum areas of town; top of town; Manchester Street and bottom of Town around what is now the Sports Centre. >Why did they come here? Huddersfield was a boom town for about 100 years 1840 - 1940ish. Once they were established then family and friends could follow them over. There was a large Irish community, a Catholic Church from the 1860s, a Catholic school attached to the church. Masses said in Gaelic for a time, and the largest concentration of Gaelic speakers outside London, in England, for a while. Once links were established people tended to follow each other.

I found a number of sites about the Irish in Huddersfield http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmayo2/irish_migration_england.html is very informative and anyone wanting local information could do little better than enjoying a drink at the Huddersfield Irish centre http://hic.org.uk/ !!! Chris B -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Micklethwaite Sent: 11 December 2011 09:33 To: petera1@fsmail.net; west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] The McGuire family, Huddersfield To add to Peter's excellent explanation, Huddersfield was on a direct railway line from Liverpool, built before the famine. Also being a woollen town helped as cotton was in trouble during the American Civil War. But family links were important. I know there was a sizeable Irish contingent in Stockport. HTH Andy. At 06:49 11/12/2011, Peter wrote: >Huddersfield Irish concentrated on the poorer/slum areas of town; top of town; Manchester Street and bottom of Town around what is now the Sports Centre. >Why did they come here? Huddersfield was a boom town for about 100 years 1840 - 1940ish. Once they were established then family and friends could follow them over. There was a large Irish community, a Catholic Church from the 1860s, a Catholic school attached to the church. Masses said in Gaelic for a time, and the largest concentration of Gaelic speakers outside London, in England, for a while. Once links were established people tended to follow each other. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message