Hello all, Ryedale Family History Fair, hosted by the Ryedale Family History Group, is on this Sunday, the 14th August at the Malton & Norton Rugby Club, Old Malton Road, Malton, North Yorkshire, YO17 7EY. Somewhere to go if it's raining! Even better if it's fair! Some of the exhibitors attending: East Yorkshire Family History Society Guild Of One Name Studies North Yorkshire County Record Office Robert Blatchford Publishing Ryedale Family History Group UK BMD Wharfedale Family History Group Yorkshire Ancestors Yorkshire Parish Registers Ryedale Libraries Ryedale Folk Museum Beck Isle Museum Local History Andrew George Postcards City of York & District Family History Society Book stall Also, information from family history societies all over Yorkshire, members of the Yorkshire Group of Family History Societies, and the West Yorkshire Archives Service. This fair is one of a number of projects funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund from the National Lottery, aimed at bringing more awareness of family history and of what can be discovered about our past. Regards, Janice Wood www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org

Hi, I know you have pushed Findmypast before over ancestry and I did try a trial subscription but, I actually prefer ancestry as meets more of my needs better it also offers quite a lot of australian info. Obviously if all you want is a 1911 census detail then ancestry won't help at the moment. But there might be a better less expensive way to obtain this than subscribing to either of them. I find the 1911 census less helpful in my research as I have known relatives who were alive then. Mind you I have one very elusive one and I would love to know more about her whereabouts after 1920. Jean in South australia. -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:52 PM To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Assistance Please England 1911 Census On 8 Aug 2011 at 0:01, bazza yorky wrote: > Please could any one help me out to negotiate on the Start Page of > the england 1911 census using the Ancestry Library Edition On the > opening page it lists ---- Source Info. > About the 1911 > census Unusual > Features all on the left hand side of > page On the right hand side it gives ----- Browse this > collection ----Select from options below. County ----Select Civil > Parish -----Select Enumeration District ----- [THIS I do not > know and it can give lots and lots of districts] I selct county > ok and the civil parish but not the enumeration districts . > Please can any one help it is completely different from all the > other census,s I have used ie from 1841 to 1901. Help Barrie > Haigh from lovely Anna Bay Australia > The best suggestion I can offer is to ignore Ancestry and sign up with Findmypast, which has the full 1911 census with indexes, transcriptions and images - and has done so since January 2009. You can purchase pay-as-you-go units rather than take out a year's subscription. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am trying to find out who was living at the following address in/around February 1915: 101 Thornton Road Thornhill Lees Please could anyone help me with this - does anyone have access to this info, eg electoral rolls, rates books or the likes? TIA Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia

Bill, << Susannah Bottomley Bpt 11 July 1742 Parish of Elland(nrHalifax) << father George Bottomley. << Pretty Sure this is your Susannah << I found the bands of their marriage and John Sharp was of the << parish of Halifax. That's interesting. What shows that this Susannah BOTTOMLEY married John SHARP? I agree that John SHARP was a joiner in Halifax parish upon his marriage, but Susanna BOTTOMLEY was in Bradford parish, so I din't see any Elland connection there. My view is that she is Susan BOTTOMLEY of Wibsey bpt 20 May 1744 Wibsey Chapel, elder sister of Will-maker John BOTTOMLEY [of Wibsey bpt 30 Nov 1746 Bradford St Peter]. Thus, most naturally, he makes his bequests to his nieces. The Will is pretty strong circumstantial evidence that they are nieces, I was hoping for something specific in those families. Howard

I recently received a copy of a birth certificate from the GRO for my ggf. Column 4 (father’s name) states “John Morris”, Column 5 (mother’s name) states “Esther Morris formerly Rollinson”. In the right-hand margin it states: “Col 4 for “Morris” read “Morris otherwise Ashton” and in col 5 for “Esther Morris formerly Rollinson” read “Esther Ann Morris otherwise Ashton formerly Rawlinson”. Corrected on the 16th January 1923 by me ... Superintendent Registrar on production of a statutory declaration made by John Morris Ashton and Esther Ann Morris Ashton” This looks like some sort of name change but exactly what/how/why I have no idea. I find it especially puzzling because (as it states) this change was made in 1923 but the certificate is for a birth registered August 1895. I have never come across this name Ashton before and my gm and mother were always known as Morris. Can anyone suggest what is going on here and possibly how I can find more details? Many thanks Ian

Sandra Sorry but don't think it would be Cottingley cemetery - which was only opened in the 1930's...my family came from Cottingley Hall Farm - and part of land used for this cemetery and crematorium Richard -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Raymond Wilby Sent: 08 August 2011 1:33 PM To: Sandra Matthews; west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] POUNDER, Peter d.1817 Sandra You may be interested in the following link - a photo archive set up by the Leeds Library service. http://www.leodis.net/searchResults.aspx?LOCID=9999&DECADE=0&YEAR=&KEYWORDS= Beeston%20Royds&KEYWORDS2=&KEYWORDS3=&ANDOR2=&ANDOR3=&RECSPAGE=5&VIEW=1&CURR PAGE=1 The nearest cemetery to Beeston Royds would be Cottingley, some 1/2 mile away. Regards Raymond Wilby Morley West Yorks UK On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sandra Matthews < sandra.matthews@sympatico.ca> wrote: > My 3g-grandfather Peter Pounder died Sept 2, 1817 Beeston Royds. Just > wondered if anyone familiar with the area would know if there is a cemetery > still existing that might be his place of burial. His 2 yearold son James > died about a month later. Peter's wife Sarah and other son Mark b1812, > disappear after Peter's death, until 1841 when I find Mark in Beverley, ERY. > Any help to fill in the gaps appreciated. > > Sandra > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barrie and other interested members. There is a way to view the actual 1911 census pages on Ancestry. It is a bit complicated and as Roy says it is more straight forward to use Findmypast, if you have a subscription to the site. I will try to explain how to use the Ancestry site. In the census section on Ancestry you first of all need to use the 1911 summary book section. Put in the surname you are seeking and if you the know the actual address that they might be living enter that, and enter the registration district where you think they should be. Entering the forename at this point is not always useful since many are just listed as Mr or Mrs. Click on search and you will get a list of names and addresses. You then need to go through the list until you find the one that is most likely to be yours. Having found the one that you want click on "View Record". This bring up the details of the census entry. Make a note of the Schedule number for the household the county the civil parish, the sub-registration district the enumeration district. You can actually open two versions of Ancestry on your PC at home, I don't know if this applies to using it at the public libraries or not, but if you open two versions, you have all the details in one version whilst you then use the second version to use the 1911 England Census. Go the Census collection on Ancestry and select 1911 England census. This brings up the page where you have to select County, civil parish etc. Fill in the details you have found from the entry on the 1911 summary books. You will then get the first page of the summary book. At the top right hand corner of this picture it shows "Image 1 of *** " ( *** being the number of pages in the book). This is where you then use the schedule number for your family. Each schedule has two pages and there will be one or two pages at the beginning of the book. You then need to double the schedule number and add one or two. Put the resulting number in the box next to the word "image" and select go. This should take you to the census page for your family. If it doesn't, go forward one or two or back one or two. It's not so easy to explain in writing, but I hope that you will be able to work it out. The entries for the 1911 census are not shown in the same way as the previous (1841-1901) census sheets. You get jus one family per page, but you can look at the families on the neighbouring schedules, which will be the next door neighbours for your family. Any problems, get in touch and I will see if I can sort it out for you. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "bazza yorky" <bazzayorky@yahoo.com.au> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: [WRY] Assistance Please England 1911 Census Please could any one help me out to negotiate on the Start Page of the england 1911 census using the Ancestry Library Edition On the opening page it lists ---- Source Info. About the 1911 census Unusual Features all on the left hand side of page On the right hand side it gives ----- Browse this collection ----Select from options below. County ----Select Civil Parish -----Select Enumeration District ----- [THIS I do not know and it can give lots and lots of districts] I selct county ok and the civil parish but not the enumeration districts . Please can any one help it is completely different from all the other census,s I have used ie from 1841 to 1901. Help Barrie Haigh from lovely Anna Bay Australia Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra The following Pounders are buried at Beeston St Mary's. Pounder James 29 Oct 1775 so William Pounder James 21 Oct 1817 Near Royds 2 so Peter & Sarah Pounder Mary 6 Dec 1829 Holbeck Leeds 69 wd Peter Pounder Peter 3 Sep 1817 Royds 33 hu Pounder Thomas 21 Feb 1773 so James Pounder William 2 Nov 1769 so James Hope that helps John -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Matthews Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:00 PM To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] POUNDER, Peter d.1817 My 3g-grandfather Peter Pounder died Sept 2, 1817 Beeston Royds. Just wondered if anyone familiar with the area would know if there is a cemetery still existing that might be his place of burial. His 2 yearold son James died about a month later. Peter’s wife Sarah and other son Mark b1812, disappear after Peter’s death, until 1841 when I find Mark in Beverley, ERY. Any help to fill in the gaps appreciated. Sandra Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra You may be interested in the following link - a photo archive set up by the Leeds Library service. http://www.leodis.net/searchResults.aspx?LOCID=9999&DECADE=0&YEAR=&KEYWORDS=Beeston%20Royds&KEYWORDS2=&KEYWORDS3=&ANDOR2=&ANDOR3=&RECSPAGE=5&VIEW=1&CURRPAGE=1 The nearest cemetery to Beeston Royds would be Cottingley, some 1/2 mile away. Regards Raymond Wilby Morley West Yorks UK On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sandra Matthews < sandra.matthews@sympatico.ca> wrote: > My 3g-grandfather Peter Pounder died Sept 2, 1817 Beeston Royds. Just > wondered if anyone familiar with the area would know if there is a cemetery > still existing that might be his place of burial. His 2 yearold son James > died about a month later. Peter’s wife Sarah and other son Mark b1812, > disappear after Peter’s death, until 1841 when I find Mark in Beverley, ERY. > Any help to fill in the gaps appreciated. > > Sandra > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 8 Aug 2011 at 0:01, bazza yorky wrote: > Please could any one help me out to negotiate  on the Start Page of > the  england  1911  census using the Ancestry Library Edition On the > opening page  it lists  ---- Source  Info. >                                                   About the 1911 > census                                                   Unusual  > Features                             all on the left hand   side of > page On the right  hand side    it gives  -----   Browse this > collection   ----Select from options  below. County ----Select Civil  > Parish -----Select Enumeration  District   -----       [THIS I do not > know  and it can give  lots and lots   of districts] I selct  county  > ok   and the civil  parish    but not the  enumeration   districts . > Please can any one help it is completely  different   from all the > other census,s  I have used   ie   from 1841 to 1901. Help  Barrie > Haigh   from lovely  Anna Bay  Australia > The best suggestion I can offer is to ignore Ancestry and sign up with Findmypast, which has the full 1911 census with indexes, transcriptions and images - and has done so since January 2009. You can purchase pay-as-you-go units rather than take out a year's subscription. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Howard Susannah Bottomley Bpt 11 July 1742 Parish of Elland(nrHalifax) father George Bottomley. Pretty Sure this is your Susannah I found the bands of their marriage and John Sharp was of the parish of Halifax. Bill On 7/08/2011 9:51 PM, Howard Geddes wrote: > Trying to establish that the wives below are all daughters of John SHARP& > Susanna BOTTOMLEY (m 1764 Bradford). I cannot find records of their baptisms > anywhere. > > Sarah& William AKED cropper (m 1808 Leeds, she being Widow COOKSON) > Hannah& Timothy GOOD shoemaker (m 1797 Leeds) > Martha& Anthony SHARP of Clayton Heights (m 1813 Bradford) > Mary& Joshua STANCLIFFE hairdresser (m 1794 Halifax) > All the wives received quite generous legacies in the 1818 Will of John > BOTTOMLEY yeoman of Horton, implying they were close relatives, with the > obvious implication that Susanna BOTTOMLEY would be sister of John > BOTTOMLEY, Susan BOTTOMLEY b 1744 Wibsey. > > I think this is Mrs AKED's first marriage: > Sarah& William COOKSON of Huddersfield (m 1790 Leeds) > The COOKSONs and GOODs both lived in Ebenezer St, Leeds. > > Howard Geddes > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3820 - Release Date: 08/08/11 04:33:00 >

My 3g-grandfather Peter Pounder died Sept 2, 1817 Beeston Royds. Just wondered if anyone familiar with the area would know if there is a cemetery still existing that might be his place of burial. His 2 yearold son James died about a month later. Peter’s wife Sarah and other son Mark b1812, disappear after Peter’s death, until 1841 when I find Mark in Beverley, ERY. Any help to fill in the gaps appreciated. Sandra

Please could any one help me out to negotiate  on the Start Page of the  england  1911  census using the Ancestry Library Edition On the opening page  it lists  ---- Source  Info.                                                   About the 1911 census                                                   Unusual  Features                             all on the left hand   side of page On the right  hand side    it gives  -----   Browse this collection   ----Select from options  below. County ----Select Civil  Parish -----Select Enumeration  District   -----       [THIS I do not know  and it can give  lots and lots   of districts] I selct  county  ok   and the civil  parish    but not the  enumeration   districts . Please can any one help it is completely  different   from all the other census,s  I have used   ie   from 1841 to 1901. Help  Barrie Haigh   from lovely  Anna Bay  Australia

Trying to establish that the wives below are all daughters of John SHARP & Susanna BOTTOMLEY (m 1764 Bradford). I cannot find records of their baptisms anywhere. Sarah & William AKED cropper (m 1808 Leeds, she being Widow COOKSON) Hannah & Timothy GOOD shoemaker (m 1797 Leeds) Martha & Anthony SHARP of Clayton Heights (m 1813 Bradford) Mary & Joshua STANCLIFFE hairdresser (m 1794 Halifax) All the wives received quite generous legacies in the 1818 Will of John BOTTOMLEY yeoman of Horton, implying they were close relatives, with the obvious implication that Susanna BOTTOMLEY would be sister of John BOTTOMLEY, Susan BOTTOMLEY b 1744 Wibsey. I think this is Mrs AKED's first marriage: Sarah & William COOKSON of Huddersfield (m 1790 Leeds) The COOKSONs and GOODs both lived in Ebenezer St, Leeds. Howard Geddes

Hi Louise Many thanks - I have also been sent the full entry off-list and know that is the right Louisa (the address and witness names also match). I still need to tie down the birth entry but that has enabled me to pull together a good part of her family going forward from there and fill one gap in my research. Kind regards Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:03:45 +0100 From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160 To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DEC5D5BA-372F-4895-85BE-121012EE9D4D@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Ian I shall save you some time and money, the marriage entries are available on ancestry.com. I did a search for both marriages, both indexes came up, however the actual marriage entry as is shown on a marriage cert comes up for Louisa Scott to George Chesworth, and guess what that is the Walter Scott who is the rope maker :) If you need any help finding it let me know. All the best Louise Sent from my iPhone

Be careful with this one on Ancestry, I have found some indexed as Hunslet Moor, St Peter when they images are actually for St Mary, Kippax. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Stash Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:07 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Thank you. The reason I asked is because many of my Kneeshaw and Swales ancestors came from Hunslet. Ancestry shows Harold Kneeshaw baptized at Hunslet Moor, St Peter, Yorkshire, England . I had never heard of Hunslet Moor before. -------Original Message------- From: John Hall Date: 8/2/2011 1:16:33 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Hunslet Moor is an area of open space in Hunslet. At the beginning of the 20th century it consisted of a public park, a bowling green plus recreational land. What is there now I'm afraid I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: Stash Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:44 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? Thank you! Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The church was on the corner of Moor Road and Dewsbury Road. If you want to know about Hunslet go to http://www.hunslet.org/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Stash Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:07 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Thank you. The reason I asked is because many of my Kneeshaw and Swales ancestors came from Hunslet. Ancestry shows Harold Kneeshaw baptized at Hunslet Moor, St Peter, Yorkshire, England . I had never heard of Hunslet Moor before. -------Original Message------- From: John Hall Date: 8/2/2011 1:16:33 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Hunslet Moor is an area of open space in Hunslet. At the beginning of the 20th century it consisted of a public park, a bowling green plus recreational land. What is there now I'm afraid I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: Stash Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:44 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? Thank you! Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. The reason I asked is because many of my Kneeshaw and Swales ancestors came from Hunslet. Ancestry shows Harold Kneeshaw baptized at Hunslet Moor, St Peter, Yorkshire, England . I had never heard of Hunslet Moor before. -------Original Message------- From: John Hall Date: 8/2/2011 1:16:33 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Hunslet Moor is an area of open space in Hunslet. At the beginning of the 20th century it consisted of a public park, a bowling green plus recreational land. What is there now I'm afraid I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: Stash Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:44 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? Thank you! Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks for all the responses, in particular to Margaret Cambridge, who was able to point me to exactly the marriage certificate I need here ("my" Louisa SCOTT is the one who married George CHESWORTH in July 1904). My general approach over the years I have been researching, rightly or wrongly, has always been to do everything possible to eliminate alternatives before ordering certificates so that I can be as certain as possible I am ordering the right certificate - minimising the work I am asking the Register Office to undertake. I would still be interested to hear from anyone who can connect to this line. Kind regards Ian H Burns Monkton Combe, Bath

Hi Ian I shall save you some time and money, the marriage entries are available on ancestry.com. I did a search for both marriages, both indexes came up, however the actual marriage entry as is shown on a marriage cert comes up for Louisa Scott to George Chesworth, and guess what that is the Walter Scott who is the rope maker :) If you need any help finding it let me know. All the best Louise Sent from my iPhone On 2 Aug 2011, at 18:16, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Ian H Burns) > 2. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Mel Smith) > 3. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (hilary) > 4. Hunslet and Hunslet Moor (Stash) > 5. Re: Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 (Lenny Beaumont) > 6. Re: Hunslet and Hunslet Moor (John Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:19:27 +0100 > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601cc5106$0a8f5140$1fadf3c0$@burnsgenealogy.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:06:40 -0400 > From: "Mel Smith" <melvynsmith@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01cc510c$a40acb50$ec2061f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ian: > > What you do is request a reference search for the certificate from the GRO. > > Assuming you know something specific about the one you are interested in, in > this case perhaps the mother's name as the fathers are the same. > > You then provide both Louisa's GRO reference numbers and prioritize them by > stating listing them in whatever order you pick. > > The GRO then looks at the first one and if the references match (i.e. > mothers name) then they go no further and send you that first certificate > and that is all you pay for. If the first one doesn't match they then look > at the next one in the list to find a match. You pay about 3 gbp for each > failed search and the full 7 gbp for the correct one. > > It has been a while since I found the need to order a certificate and I am > not certain on the fees today but the failed search used to be slightly less > than half the full cost of a certificate > > Mel Smith > Whitby, Ontario, Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian H Burns > Sent: August 2, 2011 7:19 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:54:28 +0100 > From: "hilary" <hilaryblanford@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E22242597C3D4A7CAD1B8652638D6C2C@your7ifoxyzflq> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > You can do this from the uk gov web site by clicking on the GRO ref NOT > known button. You will then be able to specify your requirements on the > next page. You appear to have the mother's maiden name and this will ensure > you receive the correct birth cert > HB > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian H Burns > Sent: 02 August 2011 12:19 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > Hi Lenny > > I think you have misunderstood the question I was asking, or maybe I was not > clear enough in my original question. I know a considerable amount about > Martha Hannah Burns, who was my GG Grandfather's daughter from his first > marriage and who married Walter Scott in 1874. One of their children was > Louisa born 1875 - there are in fact 2 separate Louisa Scotts in the 1881 > Census born 1875, both of whom have Walter as their father. I would like to > order the birth certificate for "my" Louisa, if possible without having to > order both birth certificates. Moving forward, by using the GRO Index and > 1911 Census I have worked out that one Louisa married Ernest BARROW in the > Jun Qtr 1902 and the other married George CHESWORTH in the Sep Qtr of 1904, > both in Huddersfield. Similarly, I am keen to work out which is which, if > possible without ordering both marriage certificates. > > Hopefully my question is now clear. > > Kind regards > > Ian > > Ian H Burns > Monkton Combe, Bath > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > west-riding-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 30 July 2011 08:01 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 157 > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:42:49 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E0A0D7EF513F479791979EAC71D1B7F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I dont know what your problem is ? Dont you know the mothers name ? On the > 81c Walter the rope /twine was married to Martha H. A quick look at the > BMD's identifies her being Martha Hannah Burns Regards Lenny (Researching > the Beaumonts of Yorkshire) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian H Burns" <ian@burnsgenealogy.org> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM > Subject: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > > >> I have 2 Louise SCOTTs born in Huddersfield in 1875 (one in the >> September quarter and the other in the December quarter), both of whom >> show on the >> 1881 Census with Walter SCOTT as their father, and I am trying to find >> out which one fits into my tree before ordering birth/marriage >> certificates, which will of course show the occupation of the fathers. >> The only differentiation in the 1881 census is that one Walter is a >> stone mason and the other is a rope and twine maker. My relative is >> the rope and twine maker. >> >> >> If anyone already has the information to differentiate between these >> two I would be most grateful to hear as it would avoid me having to >> order two sets of certificates. I would also be interested to hear >> from anyone who connects to this line of rope and twine makers. >> >> >> Ian H Burns >> Monkton Combe, Bath > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:44:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) > From: "Stash" <stashali@yahoo.com> > Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4E381B6E.00000A.05548@STASHALI-PC> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? > Thank you! > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:00:32 +0100 > From: "Lenny Beaumont" <lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Louise SCOTT b Huddersfield 1875 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DB0E1CB69CBC4631B496736BFFF902F0@Lennypc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian > I think you are a little bit new on this, so my apologies if I sounded a > like bit harsh > All you need to do is tell the register Office that there are two possible > dates ( give them the periods) and tell them that you want the birth > certificate of Louisa who whose parents are Walter Scott / Mary Hannah > Burns. If they have it, they will send you it, if not, they will return your > cheque. You would be very unlucky to find x2 Louisa's with same parents > names > > With regards the marriage - you can either look at the 1911 census for > Louisa married to Barrow or /Chesworth and check her age and place of birth > to see if she fits your criteria. I have not got access to the 1911 census, > so I cant look it up for you. You could ask someone on the Rootes web list > to do a look up for you > Alternately, tell the Register Office that you are wanting the marriage > certtificate of Louisa Scottt who has a father Walter who occupation is a > rope twiner and tell them the two possible dates. Give them her age also. > The same rules apply as per the birth certificate, you will not be charged > if they cant provide the certificate. > The rule in all this is, the more information you tell them, the less chance > to obtaining the wrong certificates > Some Local Register Office will do up to a five year search if you ask them. > I hope that helps you > Regards > Lenny > Researching the Beaumonts of Yorkshire > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:16:26 +0100 > From: "John Hall" <john.r_hall@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <19718796B05848E1AFFF0FCAC06842E0@JohnHallPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hunslet Moor is an area of open space in Hunslet. At the beginning of the > 20th century it consisted of a public park, a bowling green plus > recreational land. What is there now I'm afraid I don't know. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stash > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:44 PM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] Hunslet and Hunslet Moor > > Would Hunslet and Hunslet Moor be the same place? > Thank you! > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160 > *******************************************