Hi Gordon There some Collins's that I think lived at Thurgo land. If it is the same family that my sister married into. This branch of Collins were at Thorne in the early 1800's and were in the Barnsley area later, then moved to Denaby. Regards John John Lindley www.lindleyancestry.co.uk http://lindleyancestry.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon dyson" <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Crowther and Vickerman textiles My grandmother was an Eliza JUBB (1879-1945) from Barnsley, dau. of William JUBB and Elisabeth COLLINS, the family moved from Barnsley to Sowerby Bridge about the time of WWII. Gordon. On 1 November 2011 06:11, Sharlie Stubbs <sharlieg@bigpond.com> wrote: > "Researching Jubb .. I have an ex daughter-in-law in South Australia > surnamed JEBB. Don't know if she'd be willing to share what she had, > but. Just a thought. > > On 31/10/2011 11:59 PM, Maureen Mitchell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to do a little research on the textile company of Crowther and >> Vickerman, who were based at Crosland Moor, Huddersfield. >> >> I'm particularly interested in the VICKERMAN side - who was involved in >> the >> company, etc but all/any information would be useful. >> >> I've checked West Yorkshire Archives and they only have 2 mentions of the >> company - 1 from Dyers& Bleachers Union and 1 re marketing in Germany. >> Google only comes up with 1 viable hit about someone who worked there. >> >> Any information would be gratefully received. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Maureen Mitchell >> >> A Yorkshire tyke living in Norfolk (UK) >> >> Researching JUBB& VICKERMAN >> Guild of One Name Studies >> >> >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gordon, Many thanks for this. There is no known connection to Eliza or William JUBB but I do have them in my One Name Study. Kind Regards Maureen Researching JUBB & VICKERMAN Guild of One Name Studies ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon dyson" <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Crowther and Vickerman textiles My grandmother was an Eliza JUBB (1879-1945) from Barnsley, dau. of William JUBB and Elisabeth COLLINS, the family moved from Barnsley to Sowerby Bridge about the time of WWII. Gordon.

Hi Sharlie, Many thanks for this. I haven't come across the variant of JEBB yet but you never know. Spellings obviously varied tremendously up to the middle of the 19th century. My JUBBs were in Thurgoland (near Penistone/Sheffield) in the middle of the 18th century and gradually moved up the valley to Huddersfield. I'd be delighted to share any information. If you could pass this on to your ex daughter in law I should be very grateful. Kind Regards Maureen Researching JUBB & VICKERMAN Guild of One Name Studies ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlie Stubbs" <sharlieg@bigpond.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Crowther and Vickerman textiles > > "Researching Jubb .. I have an ex daughter-in-law in South Australia > surnamed JEBB. Don't know if she'd be willing to share what she had, > but. Just a thought. > > On 31/10/2011 11:59 PM, Maureen Mitchell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to do a little research on the textile company of Crowther and >> Vickerman, who were based at Crosland Moor, Huddersfield. >> >> I'm particularly interested in the VICKERMAN side - who was involved in >> the >> company, etc but all/any information would be useful. >> >> I've checked West Yorkshire Archives and they only have 2 mentions of the >> company - 1 from Dyers& Bleachers Union and 1 re marketing in Germany. >> Google only comes up with 1 viable hit about someone who worked there. >> >> Any information would be gratefully received. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Maureen Mitchell >> >> A Yorkshire tyke living in Norfolk (UK) >> >> Researching JUBB& VICKERMAN >> Guild of One Name Studies >> >> >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandmother was an Eliza JUBB (1879-1945) from Barnsley, dau. of William JUBB and Elisabeth COLLINS, the family moved from Barnsley to Sowerby Bridge about the time of WWII. Gordon. On 1 November 2011 06:11, Sharlie Stubbs <sharlieg@bigpond.com> wrote: > "Researching Jubb .. I have an ex daughter-in-law in South Australia > surnamed JEBB.  Don't know if she'd be willing to share what she had, > but. Just a thought. > > On 31/10/2011 11:59 PM, Maureen Mitchell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to do a little research on the textile company of Crowther and >> Vickerman, who were based at Crosland Moor, Huddersfield. >> >> I'm particularly interested in the VICKERMAN side - who was involved in the >> company, etc but all/any information would be useful. >> >> I've checked West Yorkshire Archives and they only have 2 mentions of the >> company - 1 from Dyers&  Bleachers Union and 1 re marketing in Germany. >> Google only comes up with 1 viable hit about someone who worked there. >> >> Any information would be gratefully received. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Maureen Mitchell >> >> A Yorkshire tyke living in Norfolk (UK) >> >> Researching JUBB&  VICKERMAN >> Guild of One Name Studies >> >> >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I'm trying to do a little research on the textile company of Crowther and Vickerman, who were based at Crosland Moor, Huddersfield. I'm particularly interested in the VICKERMAN side - who was involved in the company, etc but all/any information would be useful. I've checked West Yorkshire Archives and they only have 2 mentions of the company - 1 from Dyers & Bleachers Union and 1 re marketing in Germany. Google only comes up with 1 viable hit about someone who worked there. Any information would be gratefully received. Kind Regards Maureen Mitchell A Yorkshire tyke living in Norfolk (UK) Researching JUBB & VICKERMAN Guild of One Name Studies

Hi Ian   Rastrick would have come under Halifax registration district.   The March quarter for 1844 in D.ewsbury has a birth for an Ephzibeth HIRST. I checked the image and yes, it really is Ephzibeth, but I can't see any death or marriage for Ephzibeth Hirst- I wonder if they decided if it was too much trouble to keep explaining it and reverted to Elizabeth. Do any of your Elizabeth's siblings have obscure biblical names?   regards,   Lesley ________________________________ From: Ian <ianbrooke@hotmail.com> To: Yorkshire List <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 14 October 2011, 18:47 Subject: [WRY] Rastrick Hi, I’m having trouble finding the birth certificate for my Gt Gt Grandmother, Elizabeth Hirst.  According to the 1851 census (and confirmed by later census’s) she was 6 years old so born in 1844/5.  I can find one birth of the right name in Dec 1844 but it’s the wrong person (mother’s & father’s names are wrong).  Her parents and siblings were all born in Liversedge/Cleckheaton and I have been looking in the Dewsbury records.  Elizabeth however was born in Rastrick and I don’t know which district this would come under (or even why she was born there when the parents were living still in Liversedge).  There are 2 possible births in 1845 listed under Huddersfield – does anyone know which district Rastrick would have been in at that time? Many thanks Ian Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How about this one? John is of Kirk Moor Place, Huddersfield in 1845, and a weaver. I know it isn't a birth record in 1845, but the parents seem to match - unless I've got the wrong ones? You didn't tell us. Maggie West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Hirst Name: Elizabeth Hirst Birth Date: 7 Mar 1839 Parish: Kirkheaton, St John The Baptist Baptism Date: 5 Jan 1845 Father's Name: John Hirst Mother's Name: Hannah Hirst -----Original Message----- From: Ian <ianbrooke@hotmail.com> To: Yorkshire List <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:52 Subject: [WRY] Rastrick Hi, I’m having trouble finding the birth certificate for my Gt Gt Grandmother, Elizabeth Hirst. According to the 1851 census (and confirmed by later census’s) she was 6 years old so born in 1844/5. I can find one birth of the right name in Dec 1844 but it’s the wrong person (mother’s & father’s names are wrong). Her parents and siblings were all born in Liversedge/Cleckheaton and I have been looking in the Dewsbury records. Elizabeth however was born in Rastrick and I don’t know which district this would come under (or even why she was born there when the parents were living still in Liversedge). There are 2 possible births in 1845 listed under Huddersfield – does anyone know which district Rastrick would have been in at that time? Many thanks Ian Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I’m having trouble finding the birth certificate for my Gt Gt Grandmother, Elizabeth Hirst. According to the 1851 census (and confirmed by later census’s) she was 6 years old so born in 1844/5. I can find one birth of the right name in Dec 1844 but it’s the wrong person (mother’s & father’s names are wrong). Her parents and siblings were all born in Liversedge/Cleckheaton and I have been looking in the Dewsbury records. Elizabeth however was born in Rastrick and I don’t know which district this would come under (or even why she was born there when the parents were living still in Liversedge). There are 2 possible births in 1845 listed under Huddersfield – does anyone know which district Rastrick would have been in at that time? Many thanks Ian

G'day Bazza, Image of Register entry sent off List. Bill Melbourne, Oz

On 12 Oct 2011 at 23:13, bazza yorky wrote: > Please could anyone helpme with a lookup for this ancestor of mine.The > following info. is from the IGI . Thomas Frudd married Mary Dyson 26 > Feb. 1832  Silkstone .Please I am after the full record from the > Parish Registers. This info. would be gratefully accepted.  Bazza > Haigh  from beautiful Anna Bay  Australia   Thanyou > If you were hoping to discover who the parents were, then I'm afraid there is a 99 per cent likelihood that you will be disappointed. Before 1837 parents were hardly ever given in marriage records. The only extra information you are likely to find is the bridegroom's occupation, whether one or both were of the same parish or another parish, names of witnesses and the name of the incumbent who conducted the service. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

It may be worth noting that West Yorkshire Parish Registers (including Bradford) are now on-line on Ancestry.com Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Hughes Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:33 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Bradford Records To see parish records you are best going to Bradford Central Library where they have them on microfiche - the originals are held by the archives service but they don't get them out unless mircofiche is completely unreadable. Local studies have just moved to 3rd floor of the library and staff are very helpful - they have a card catalogue of names, photos, soldiers, subjects as well as microfiche of old newspapers which might be useful for looking at BMD notices. wakefield holds the deeds, court records and some hospital information but most Bradford information is held at the Bradford Branch of the archives service. They have a very useful online catalogue that would be worth looking at before your visit in case there are any documents that you need to order. I'm there most Thursdays beavering away :0) Hope this helps Kathryn Dr Kathryn Hughes WestYorkshireLives.co.uk > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:15:16 +0100 > From: ij@iandjparker.f9.co.uk > To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] Bradford Records > > > I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on > which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or > possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. > > My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and > her father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. > > In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife > Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah > Robinson aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. > > In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph > Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel > Robinson, a collier. > > Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states > Dolphin. > > It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the > baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are > related. > > Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, > > Jenny Parker > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If a marriage is prior to 1837 it is very unlikely that a fathers name will be found, UK marriage records before Civil registration (1837) do not contain fathers names. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie Ray Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:03 PM To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Fwd: Bradford Records I am an American, and don't know the facts in your particular situation, but I have done a lot of genealogy and looked at many, many census forms. In this case, I would bet almost anything that Sam the collier was the father of Hannah b. 1926, Samuel Jr. born 1829, and Mary b. 1831. Given the age difference between Nancy and Hannah, I would guess that Nancy was a sister of Sam the collier. If you could find the marriage record for Nancy and John Shaw (probably between 1827 - 1841), you might find her father's name (and therefore Sam the collier's). I'd love to hear later if I am right or wrong about this! Best regards, Stephanie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jenny & Ian Parker <ij@iandjparker.f9.co.uk> Date: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:15 AM Subject: [WRY] Bradford Records To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and her father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah Robinson aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel Robinson, a collier. Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states Dolphin. It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are related. Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, Jenny Parker Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please could anyone helpme with a lookup for this ancestor of mine.The following info. is from the IGI . Thomas Frudd married Mary Dyson 26 Feb. 1832  Silkstone .Please I am after the full record from the Parish Registers. This info. would be gratefully accepted.  Bazza Haigh  from beautiful Anna Bay  Australia   Thanyou

To see parish records you are best going to Bradford Central Library where they have them on microfiche - the originals are held by the archives service but they don't get them out unless mircofiche is completely unreadable. Local studies have just moved to 3rd floor of the library and staff are very helpful - they have a card catalogue of names, photos, soldiers, subjects as well as microfiche of old newspapers which might be useful for looking at BMD notices. wakefield holds the deeds, court records and some hospital information but most Bradford information is held at the Bradford Branch of the archives service. They have a very useful online catalogue that would be worth looking at before your visit in case there are any documents that you need to order. I'm there most Thursdays beavering away :0) Hope this helps Kathryn Dr Kathryn Hughes WestYorkshireLives.co.uk > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:15:16 +0100 > From: ij@iandjparker.f9.co.uk > To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] Bradford Records > > > I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. > > My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and her father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. > > In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah Robinson aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. > > In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel Robinson, a collier. > > Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states Dolphin. > > It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are related. > > Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, > > Jenny Parker > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I cannot say which place is best to see the records that you are looking for, but Bradford central library has an archive, part of the West Yorkshire Archives Service (WYAS), so may be able to help. Otherwise it may be best to contact the main WYAS centre in Wakefield. Both Clayton and Queensbury (see below) have their own Parish Churches and lots of chapels of various types. However I can comment on the "Dolphin" item. I used to live at Clayton Heights in Bradford. The village of Clayton is next to where I lived, but with Clayton Heights being some 300ft higher up the hill. Nearby is the township of Queensbury, which boasts two "Dolphin" Public Houses, both on the same road (the A647), but at opposite sides of the township. The first, and oldest is "The Old Dolphin" (which used to be my local) and the other is "The New Dolphin" about a mile away. The Old Dolphin is actually in Scarlet Heights, supposedly so called because of a (Civil War - War of the Roses??) battle nearby. The area near to the Old Dolphin and Scarlet Heights may well have been referred to as "Dolphin" in the past, but more recently would have been taken as part of Queensbury, which used to be and Urban District Council in its own right. It is also possible that the area near "The New Dolphin" was also referred to as "Dolphin" but I think the "Old Dolphin"/Scarlet Heights area is much more likely. Map centered on Clayton is at http://g.co/maps/recf9 Map centered on Old Dolphin is at http://g.co/maps/7egsr Map centered on New Dolphin is at http://g.co/maps/9nrv3 If you select any of the maps and zoom out you will see the how they relate to each other. I hope some of this may help. Tony Carroll =================================================================== On 12 October 2011 16:15, Jenny & Ian Parker <ij@iandjparker.f9.co.uk>wrote: > > I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on > which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or > possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. > > My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and her > father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. > > In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife > Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah Robinson > aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. > > In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph > Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel > Robinson, a collier. > > Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states Dolphin. > > It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the > baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are related. > > Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, > > Jenny Parker > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and her father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah Robinson aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel Robinson, a collier. Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states Dolphin. It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are related. Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, Jenny Parker

I am an American, and don't know the facts in your particular situation, but I have done a lot of genealogy and looked at many, many census forms. In this case, I would bet almost anything that Sam the collier was the father of Hannah b. 1926, Samuel Jr. born 1829, and Mary b. 1831. Given the age difference between Nancy and Hannah, I would guess that Nancy was a sister of Sam the collier. If you could find the marriage record for Nancy and John Shaw (probably between 1827 - 1841), you might find her father's name (and therefore Sam the collier's). I'd love to hear later if I am right or wrong about this! Best regards, Stephanie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jenny & Ian Parker <ij@iandjparker.f9.co.uk> Date: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:15 AM Subject: [WRY] Bradford Records To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com I am visiting West Riding soon and would be grateful for any guidance on which record centre is best to find the baptisms for births in Clayton, or possibly more specifically, Dolphin and which churches to research. My 2nd great grandmother Mary Robinson married Alfred Boyes in 1857 and her father was not recorded on the marriage record or certificate. In 1841 aged 10 she is a 'lodger' at the home of John Shaw and his wife Nancy (nee Robinson) who is aged 30. Also lodging there are Hannah Robinson aged 15 and Samuel Robinson aged 12. In 1851 Mary is a 'lodger' with Hannah who is then married to Joseph Houldsworth. Hannah's marriage certificate states her father was Samuel Robinson, a collier. Subsequent censuses show Mary was born in Clayton, and 1861 states Dolphin. It seems to me that my only hope of getting any further is to find the baptisms of Mary, Samuel, Hannah and Nancy to find out how they are related. Thank you in advance for any advice or help on how to solve this mystery, Jenny Parker Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ellen Ancestry have the 1927 Kelly's for the West Riding. I can't see an Alfred TAYLOR, but it is far from a complete list of Huddersfield residents as there isn't a single one of my family listed. Were any of the sons old enough to have their own homes? Kate > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Murray > Sent: 09 October 2011 01:50 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] Huddersfield directories > > Have hit a brick wall for last couple of years & am hoping someone can > help. Am planning trip over the pond next fall & still have no idea > where in Huddersfield my Grandparents lived. > > Would anyone have access to a residential directory for Huddersfield > area sometime between 1920 - 1930? > > Am trying to pin down address for an Alfred James Taylor, wife Eva > (died 1929) & their 3 sons, Thomas Oliver, Wm. Henry (Harry) & Alfred > Rodway. > > Any and/or all assistance would be grately appreciated > > Ellen > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kate The youngest would have been abt 20, yrs of birth were 1903, 1906, 1909, but none married by 1929 so doubt they owned their own homes. Have sent note to Huddersfield Library for possible lookup & waiting to hear. Thank you so much for your response. Ellen

Thanks so much Michael & Geoff, will try the Library Ellen