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    1. Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton
    2. Pontefract FHS
    3. HI Keith Images sent off list the burial register for both burials. Fanny BOOTH died just a few years after John William in 1907 and was buried in the same grave in Castleford Cemetery. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:17 AM To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of > Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. > He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and > they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) > (1892-??). > In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. > John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. > Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. > In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe > John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed > at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary > Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli > Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above > ground. > > Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! > > I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I > believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) > > Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as > she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. > > There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from > Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. > This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? > > All help much appreciated. > > Keith Booth, New Zealand. > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/11/2012 01:34:23
    1. [WRY] WRY PRs. on Ancestry & the Surname HIRST Badsworth, Owston & Campsall.
    2. Jenny De Angelis
    3. I am researching the surname HIRST in the Owston & Campsall areas of the WRY and have made contact with one or two people who share the same family of Hirst with me. One of these contacts I know has their later Hirsts at Badsworth where the father isRichard Hirst occ. Butcher and the mother is Elizabeth. Another, more recently found, contact told me today that he had found the baptisms on the familysearch site for a couple of children of Richard and Elizabeth at Badsworth, but which I found turned out to be patron submissions. But I went to the ancestry site and the WRY PRs there for 1512-1812. I searched for Hirst with the above parents names and up came daughter Mary baptised in Dec. 1771 and son John baptised in 1774 but noted by Ancestry as having taken place at Nether Thong All saints. Looking at the bottom of "View Record" page for these entries where it gives information on where the details were taken from give a West Yorks Archives Service ref. as Old Ref. D 19/4 New Ref. WD19/4 Going to the WYAS site and searching for Badsworth parish register I found that the ref. given there was WD19/1-4 . A search of the WYAS for Netherthong parish registers brings up a result where the PRs for All Saints Netherthong date only from 1815 and the ref. if WDP18. The PRs for st. Andrews Netherthong date from 1878 with ref. WDP 245. According to Wikipeadia All Saints church Netherthong was not built until 1829-30, Ancestry it would appear have put the marriages Badsworth correctly under Badsworth but the baptisms, and possibly the burials too I haven't checked those, are under Nether Thong. I have e.mailed Ancestry to tell them of this apparent error and await their response. But I thought others might find the above useful to know if they are looking for entries in the Badsworth PRs, it pays to check the information at the bottom of the View Record page that goes with each entry on Ancestry and look at the relevant CRO ref. number given there. Regards Jenny DeAngelis

    02/11/2012 07:54:18
    1. [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton
    2. Keith Booth
    3. Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) (1892-??). In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above ground. Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? All help much appreciated. Keith Booth, New Zealand.

    02/11/2012 07:17:11
    1. Re: [WRY] [YORKSGEN] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire!
    2. From: "JANICE WOOD" <janwood50@btinternet.com> > Hello all, > > Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family > history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, > Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February. > http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com Yorkshire will be very well > represented there - > > In the Yorkshire Corner will be: > > The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. > They have publications for sale and information from all the > societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with > your enquiries. More details on > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/ > > Wharfedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/ > > Ryedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/ > > Yorkshire Ancestors > For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & > http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk > > For all other exhibitors, please see > http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors > Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much > more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you > to see. See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? > Magazine, which includes a show guide. > > Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the > show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be > there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a > workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on > Saturday 25th. > > Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy > tickets at the door at 22 pounds each. > > (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this > email if you would like one). > > We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned > stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people > to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can > help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket! > > Hope to see you there! If you are there, please stop and say > hello! > > Janice Wood > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > Further to Janice's message above, Jackie and I will be on the London Group stand as well as touring the hall, networking (as I believe it's called). You should easily recognise us, as I have no doubt Jackie will be wearing one of her fabulous hats and I am planning to wear a rather gawdy striped blazer with a dark blue Yorkshire tie! We will have some ties for sale on the stand, if anyone wants to buy one, BTW. We have given our joint presentation for the last few years in the SoG's Regional Workshop but this year Jackie will be leading with her presentation of online resources for Yorkshire, which is what most people seem to want to know about these days. I will follow up with a presentation on Yorkshire record offices, local studies libraries and museums, etc, and will have a handout to give away. If you are planning to be at Olympia, then do drop by the stand. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    02/11/2012 04:51:50
    1. [WRY] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire!
    2. JANICE WOOD
    3. Hello all,   Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February.  http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com Yorkshire will be very well represented there -   In the Yorkshire Corner will be:   The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. They have publications for sale and information from all the societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with your enquiries. More details on http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/   Wharfedale Family History Group For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/   Ryedale Family History Group For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/   Yorkshire Ancestors For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk   For all other exhibitors, please see http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you to see.  See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? Magazine, which includes a show guide.   Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on Saturday 25th.   Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy tickets at the door at 22 pounds each.   (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this email if you would like one).   We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket!   Hope to see you there!  If you are there, please stop and say hello!   Janice Wood

    02/11/2012 03:47:53
    1. Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton
    2. Maureenpontefhs
    3. hello Keith, you could try the Wakefield area Cemetery/Crematorium website: I found what looks like your Fanny http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/BereavementServices/GenealogySearches/BurialRegisterspre1986/default.htm?forenames=fanny&surname=taylor&match=exact&action=search good luck, you may like to check other names on here, such a very useful site best wishes, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: Keith Booth <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> To: WEST-RIDING <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 1:17 Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) (1892-??). In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above ground. Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? All help much appreciated. Keith Booth, New Zealand. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2012 02:41:34
    1. [WRY] query re Ayrtons
    2. ANN DAVIS
    3. Thank you to Kathy who gave me two addresses in Halifax and Mike who gave me a lot of leads. Ann Davis Reading

    02/10/2012 05:02:08
    1. Re: [WRY] query re Halifax firm
    2. Michael Hargreave Mawson
    3. On Thu, 9 Feb 2012, at around 12:57:27 local time, ANN DAVIS <a.p.davis@btinternet.com> wrote: >Dear Listers, >  >Does anyone have any knowledge of a firm called  Ayrtons in Halifax >between (roughly) 1916 and 1948 ? My great uncle was employed by them >possibly as a chemist. Dear Ann, Your first port of call should probably be Grace's Guide, here: <http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Main_Page> A search for Ayrton gives 19 results, including an entry in Whittaker's Red Book for 1914 under "Druggists (Wholesale and Export)" for Ayrton, Saunders and Co. Annoyingly, there is no further information. Google, however, provides us with the information that this company was based in Liverpool. <http://cosgb.blogspot.com/2011/03/ayrton-saunders-co-ltd.html> Ayrton, Saunders & Co., may have acquired a factory in Halifax at a later date. Ask them. They're still going: <http://www.ayrtons.com/> Alternatively, the company archives seem to have been deposited at the National Museums Liverpool: Maritime Archives and Library: <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=136-bas&cid=0#0> Contact details: <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp ?LR=136> Time for a trip to Liverpool? HTH -- Mike Michael Hargreave Mawson Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie.

    02/09/2012 08:15:00
    1. [WRY] query re Halifax firm
    2. ANN DAVIS
    3. Dear Listers,   Does anyone have any knowledge of a firm called  Ayrtons in Halifax between (roughly) 1916 and 1948 ? My great uncle was employed by them possibly as a chemist. Ann Davis Reading

    02/09/2012 05:57:27
    1. [WRY] Almshouses at Almondbury, Huddersfield 1835
    2. Maureen Mitchell
    3. (sorry for cross posting) Hi, I'm looking for the site of the original almshouses in Almondbury (not the current ones, at the north side of the church). I understand that 6 small almshouses were built at Broken Cross in the 17th century by the Nettleton Charity. These were near the Almondbury workhouse which was situated at the junction of Kaye Lane and Wheatroyd Lane. My grandparents lived in one of the small cottages still standing at Broken Cross but I never remember any reference to Alms Houses in the area and I was brought up around there. I'm wondering if the existing cottages were actually the Almshouses - they were certainly owned by Huddersfield Corporation in the 1950s & 60s and, from memory, must have been built well before 1800. All thoughts welcome. Kind Regards Maureen Mitchell A Yorkshire tyke living in Norfolk (UK) Researching JUBB & VICKERMAN Guild of One Name Studies

    02/08/2012 09:05:09
    1. Re: [WRY] If marriage is good, why not do it twice?
    2. Michael Hargreave Mawson
    3. On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, at around 18:51:40 local time, John Hanson <john.hanson@one-name.org> wrote: >Mike >You will find the details of the marriage in 1918 (and the family history) >online at >http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk/p62.htm#i6118 Dear John, Many thanks for your reply, and for the link. Fascinating to learn that the 1918 wedding was a Registry Office do. I imagine that the 1919 one at Kington was the full-dress church wedding. One does wonder why the Registry Office one was necessary, though . . . There are a large number of mistakes on that page, and a staggeringly large number of omissions. Would you like details of all the descendants of Molly and Gerald? Debrett's dropped us after the 2000 edition - we are now too far distant from the Every baronetcy, apparently - so I cannot simply refer you to a published source for more-recent additions to the family, but would have to send you them from my own records. >There is no notes that I have found yet in the papers of Ray Lewis-Jones >that relate to the second marriage but I would be interested if you do find >the answer! Am I to understand that Raymond is dead? If so, I am sorry to hear it - although goodness knows what age he would be now. It has been a few years since we last corresponded, and even longer since last we met. He was a true fanatic in the very best sense of the word. ATB -- Mike Michael Hargreave Mawson Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie.

    02/07/2012 01:20:39
    1. Re: [WRY] If marriage is good, why not do it twice?
    2. John Hanson
    3. Mike You will find the details of the marriage in 1918 (and the family history) online at http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk/p62.htm#i6118 There is no notes that I have found yet in the papers of Ray Lewis-Jones that relate to the second marriage but I would be interested if you do find the answer! Regards John Hanson, Researcher the Halsted Trust - the research is online at www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hargreave Mawson Sent: 07 February 2012 16:27 To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] If marriage is good, why not do it twice? Dear All, I happened across the following just now, and am a little puzzled. It appears my paternal grandparents married each other twice within nine months, once in his home town, and once in hers. Is this even remotely normal? (It should perhaps be noted that my grandfather, a Lieutenant, Acting Captain, in the Royal Engineers at the time, "copped a Blighty wound" in March, 1918, but had partially recovered and was based in UK at the time of both marriages.) Civil Registration event: Marriage MarriageFinder: Mary R E Halsted [Mary Ruth Every-Halsted] married Gerald H Mawson [Gerald Hargreave Mawson] Name: HALSTED, Mary R E Registration District: Leeds County: Yorkshire Year of Registration: 1918 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Mawson Volume No: 9B Page No: 831 Name: MAWSON, Gerald H Registration District: Leeds County: Yorkshire Year of Registration: 1918 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Every Halsted Volume No: 9B Page No: 831 Civil Registration event: Marriage MarriageFinder: Mary R E Halsted married Gerald H Mawson Name: HALSTED, Mary R E Registration District: Kington County: Herefordshire Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Mawson Volume No: 6A Page No: 1515 Name: MAWSON, Gerald H Registration District: Kington County: Herefordshire Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Halsted Volume No: 6A Page No: 1515 Any assistance will be warmly welcomed. ATB -- Mike Michael Hargreave Mawson Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2012 11:51:40
    1. [WRY] If marriage is good, why not do it twice?
    2. Michael Hargreave Mawson
    3. Dear All, I happened across the following just now, and am a little puzzled. It appears my paternal grandparents married each other twice within nine months, once in his home town, and once in hers. Is this even remotely normal? (It should perhaps be noted that my grandfather, a Lieutenant, Acting Captain, in the Royal Engineers at the time, "copped a Blighty wound" in March, 1918, but had partially recovered and was based in UK at the time of both marriages.) Civil Registration event: Marriage MarriageFinder: Mary R E Halsted [Mary Ruth Every-Halsted] married Gerald H Mawson [Gerald Hargreave Mawson] Name: HALSTED, Mary R E Registration District: Leeds County: Yorkshire Year of Registration: 1918 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Mawson Volume No: 9B Page No: 831 Name: MAWSON, Gerald H Registration District: Leeds County: Yorkshire Year of Registration: 1918 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name: Every Halsted Volume No: 9B Page No: 831 Civil Registration event: Marriage MarriageFinder: Mary R E Halsted married Gerald H Mawson Name: HALSTED, Mary R E Registration District: Kington County: Herefordshire Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Mawson Volume No: 6A Page No: 1515 Name: MAWSON, Gerald H Registration District: Kington County: Herefordshire Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Halsted Volume No: 6A Page No: 1515 Any assistance will be warmly welcomed. ATB -- Mike Michael Hargreave Mawson Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie.

    02/07/2012 09:27:16
    1. [WRY] Mr SHARPE of Coley
    2. Billeye
    3. G'day Folks, Have noticed several entries in the Almondbury Marriages Register for 1729-30 where the marriage was performed "by virtue of Licence granted by Mr Sharpe of Coley" or words similar. Why or how would he grant a Licence for these marriages? Thanks, Bill Melbourne, Oz

    02/06/2012 03:41:22
    1. Re: [WRY] Mr SHARPE of Coley
    2. Gordon Dyson
    3. Bill, The Mr Sharpe of Coley, who you mentioned, was Nathan Sharpe, the Curate of Coley Chapel from 1703 until he died 9th May 1733, buried 15th May, age 58 years & 10 months. As curate of Coley, he would issue Banns or Licences for one of his Coley parishioners to marry a partner who lived or Worshipped at Almondbury, to be married at Almondbury. Regards, Gordon. On 6 February 2012 11:41, Billeye <billeye@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > G'day Folks, > > Have noticed several entries in the Almondbury Marriages Register for > 1729-30 where the marriage was performed "by virtue of Licence granted > by Mr Sharpe of Coley" or words similar. > > Why or how would he grant a Licence for these marriages? > > Thanks, > > Bill > Melbourne, Oz > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/06/2012 06:41:55
    1. Re: [WRY] Numbers on 1911 census
    2. Mabel Jowsey
    3. Hello June The strange numbers on the 1911 census records are "occupation codes" and "birthplace codes" On FMP they can be found in "Getting Started with Censuses" under "Census Records" - "Knowledge Base" - "1911 census codes". They are not always easy to read but can give a helpful hint when the original entry is difficult to read. For example - James Francis BENBOW - occupation - 240 = Painters and decorators his place of work - 951 = Local Authority Gasworks Service. Walter Gladstone BENBOW - occupation - 320 = Grocers, tea, coffee, chocolate dealers, his place of work - 990 = Multiple shop, multiple store John Septimus BENBOW - occupation - 050 = Commercial or business clerks his place of work code I couldn't decipher. The birthplace codes are usually found in the nationality column - 058 = Liverpool, 171 = Great Yarmouth 0X appears to mean = either "don't know" or "not stated". Good hunting Mabel in NZ June wrote Subject: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 census I have been checking the 2011 for my Yorkshire Ancestors on the 2011 census and notice that in column 15 there are many handwritten numbers. On one particular census one person has the number 130 and another 621. I have tried to find information on google without any luck and wonder if anyone on the site might be able to help. Thank you June

    02/06/2012 05:03:39
    1. Re: [WRY] Numbers on 1911 census
    2. June Chan
    3. Thank you Mabel - I will check out the site. Kind regards June -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mabel Jowsey Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 9:04 AM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 1911 census Hello June The strange numbers on the 1911 census records are "occupation codes" and "birthplace codes" On FMP they can be found in "Getting Started with Censuses" under "Census Records" - "Knowledge Base" - "1911 census codes". They are not always easy to read but can give a helpful hint when the original entry is difficult to read. For example - James Francis BENBOW - occupation - 240 = Painters and decorators his place of work - 951 = Local Authority Gasworks Service. Walter Gladstone BENBOW - occupation - 320 = Grocers, tea, coffee, chocolate dealers, his place of work - 990 = Multiple shop, multiple store John Septimus BENBOW - occupation - 050 = Commercial or business clerks his place of work code I couldn't decipher. The birthplace codes are usually found in the nationality column - 058 = Liverpool, 171 = Great Yarmouth 0X appears to mean = either "don't know" or "not stated". Good hunting Mabel in NZ

    02/06/2012 02:08:55
    1. Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 Census
    2. June Chan
    3. Thank you all for your comments, and of course it should be the 1911 census. June

    02/05/2012 11:42:52
    1. [WRY] Hargreaves marriage
    2. Louise Wortley
    3. Good evening, I am trying to find my 2x great uncles marriage. Hopefully someone can help. William Hargreaves married Sarah Annie, on the 1911 census they had been married 11 years. William born Sowerby Bridge Annie born Tedbury/Tetbury Herefordshire. On the 1911 they were living in Wednesbury. Only one seems to match on Free BMD that of last quarter 1899, in Wortley. I tried on ancestry and could not find a match, I was wondering if someone has a subscription to ancestry and could email me a copy of the actual entry showing the father and their ages. I need to know if this is them in Wortley because I cannot understand why they would have been there, maybe there are clues as to witnesses. My email is wortleylouise@gmail.com Kind regards Louise Wortley. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Feb 2012, at 16:04, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hargreaves (Louise Wortley) > 2. Re: Hargreaves (TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY) > 3. Re: Numbers on 2011 census (Karen Hodges) > 4. Re: Numbers on 2011 census (Celia Renshaw) > 5. Hargreaves and Hargreaveses (Michael Hargreave Mawson) > 6. Re: Numbers on 2011 Census (Jeff) > 7. Re: Numbers on 2011 Census (steve) > 8. Yorkshire WWI soldiers - wounded (Kathryn Hughes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:00:51 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: [WRY] Hargreaves > To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <67969562-F57B-433B-8602-AFA2A011F300@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Michael, > > Well your post jumped out at me because my grandmothers family were Hargreaves, however they originally came from Shaw in Lancashire and moved to Sowerby Bridge in West Yorks. > > I am from and live in Leeds, and don't laugh at my name, it is a coincidence, the Wortley's are from Norfolk. > > I don't think there is any connection of my Hargreaves to yours. However a bit ago I was searching for my grandfathers uncle William Hargreaves' marriage in the Birmingham area, I could not find one so did the whole of the country in case they married where his wife was from even further south, or in Lancs. I was and still am surprised to find they married in Wortley in Leeds? I am now wondering would they do that if family were around that area? I have not ordered the marriage cert yet. Could SKS on here get access to the entry on ancestry and email it? > > Have you looked on Leodis.net there are photos of the Hargreaves Nussey woolen mill. > > Looking forward to hearing from you > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley > Leeds, West Yorks. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 5 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Hargreave & Nussey of Leeds, Cloth Manufacturers >> (Michael Hargreave Mawson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:44:53 +0000 >> From: Michael Hargreave Mawson <OC@46thFoot.com> >> Subject: [WRY] Hargreave & Nussey of Leeds, Cloth Manufacturers >> To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <R1J3dTE1JVLPFwvJ@hargreave-mawson.demon.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed >> >> Dear All, >> >> After having spent a few hours poking around in the British Newspaper >> Archive today, I have discovered that my HARGREAVE ancestors include the >> James HARGREAVE of Wortley (1794-bef. 1844), who, in partnership with a >> couple of NUSSEY brothers, was a prominent woollen manufacturer in >> Leeds, with a factory at Boar Lane. (His son, Charles James HARGREAVE, >> (1820-1868) was the younger brother of my g-g-g'mother, Emily HARGREAVE, >> (1819-1867) who married William MAWSON (1813-1885) in Leeds in 1841. He >> is the only member of the HARGREAVE family who made it into the >> Dictionary of National Biography - he was a judge, a professor of >> jurisprudence and a mathematician.) Another sister, Anne HARGREAVE >> (1814-1896), married Joseph NUSSEY in Leeds in 1851. >> >> Does anyone have any links to, or information on, any of the above >> names? >> >> ATB >> -- >> Mike >> Michael Hargreave Mawson >> Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11 >> ****************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 11:23:13 +0100 > From: TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <terrysundbya0felan3@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Hargreaves > To: list west r <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY161-W41D9D47DD671315E77C197B2770@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi > there are Hargreaves in Settle Skipton area, and dont forget such things as the Leeds Liverpool railway, the Settle Carlise railway, all the ancillary services that followed with;- the growth of the wool and cotton mills, people moved around a lot > > regards > Terry > >> From: qbangelcakes@aol.com >> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:00:51 +0000 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WRY] Hargreaves >> >> Hello Michael, >> >> Well your post jumped out at me because my grandmothers family were Hargreaves, however they originally came from Shaw in Lancashire and moved to Sowerby Bridge in West Yorks. >> >> I am from and live in Leeds, and don't laugh at my name, it is a coincidence, the Wortley's are from Norfolk. >> >> I don't think there is any connection of my Hargreaves to yours. However a bit ago I was searching for my grandfathers uncle William Hargreaves' marriage in the Birmingham area, I could not find one so did the whole of the country in case they married where his wife was from even further south, or in Lancs. I was and still am surprised to find they married in Wortley in Leeds? I am now wondering would they do that if family were around that area? I have not ordered the marriage cert yet. Could SKS on here get access to the entry on ancestry and email it? >> >> Have you looked on Leodis.net there are photos of the Hargreaves Nussey woolen mill. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley >> Leeds, West Yorks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 5 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Hargreave & Nussey of Leeds, Cloth Manufacturers >>> (Michael Hargreave Mawson) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:44:53 +0000 >>> From: Michael Hargreave Mawson <OC@46thFoot.com> >>> Subject: [WRY] Hargreave & Nussey of Leeds, Cloth Manufacturers >>> To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <R1J3dTE1JVLPFwvJ@hargreave-mawson.demon.co.uk> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> After having spent a few hours poking around in the British Newspaper >>> Archive today, I have discovered that my HARGREAVE ancestors include the >>> James HARGREAVE of Wortley (1794-bef. 1844), who, in partnership with a >>> couple of NUSSEY brothers, was a prominent woollen manufacturer in >>> Leeds, with a factory at Boar Lane. (His son, Charles James HARGREAVE, >>> (1820-1868) was the younger brother of my g-g-g'mother, Emily HARGREAVE, >>> (1819-1867) who married William MAWSON (1813-1885) in Leeds in 1841. He >>> is the only member of the HARGREAVE family who made it into the >>> Dictionary of National Biography - he was a judge, a professor of >>> jurisprudence and a mathematician.) Another sister, Anne HARGREAVE >>> (1814-1896), married Joseph NUSSEY in Leeds in 1851. >>> >>> Does anyone have any links to, or information on, any of the above >>> names? >>> >>> ATB >>> -- >>> Mike >>> Michael Hargreave Mawson >>> Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >>> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11 >>> ****************************************** >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:55:46 +1100 > From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 census > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CANvDYaXWFmVHtrYJ59EfG6s1JXayuWH6D-th1G-sM4meijcXBw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi June > > It was possibly a running count of the number of people in that census area. > > Karen > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, June Chan <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> wrote: > >> I have been checking the 2011 for my Yorkshire Ancestors on the 2011 census >> and notice that in column 15 there are many handwritten numbers. On one >> particular census one person has the number 130 and another 621. I have >> tried to find information on google without any luck and wonder if anyone >> on >> the site might be able to help. >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> June >> >> >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:59:52 +0000 > From: Celia Renshaw <celiarenshaw@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 census > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPb7e001nWkK-mDuygPYkdg9+Yp5vg+7d5CyVEgYiLgNFcNkpw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Possibly, though I have a feeling those numbers were the references used > by enumerators to codify the type of occupations people wrote on their > schedules. I could be quite wrong but I think I remember hearing that in > the past. > > Regards, Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > On 5 February 2012 10:55, Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi June >> >> It was possibly a running count of the number of people in that census >> area. >> >> Karen >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, June Chan <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> wrote: >> >>> I have been checking the 2011 for my Yorkshire Ancestors on the 2011 >> census >>> and notice that in column 15 there are many handwritten numbers. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:18:41 +0000 > From: Michael Hargreave Mawson <OC@46thFoot.com> > Subject: [WRY] Hargreaves and Hargreaveses > To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5HMdBuGhOnLPFwpC@hargreave-mawson.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed > > On Sun, 5 Feb 2012, at around 10:00:51 local time, Louise Wortley > <qbangelcakes@aol.com> wrote: >> I don't think there is any connection of my Hargreaves to yours. >> However a bit ago I was searching for my grandfathers uncle William >> Hargreaves' marriage in the Birmingham area, I could not find one so >> did the whole of the country in case they married where his wife was >> from even further south, or in Lancs. I was and still am surprised to >> find they married in Wortley in Leeds? I am now wondering would they do >> that if family were around that area? I have not ordered the marriage >> cert yet. Could SKS on here get access to the entry on ancestry and email it? > > Dear Louise, > > Well, I certainly have a William HARGREAVE or two in my family, and I am > sure that some married in Wortley. Have you any idea of the name of > the spouse in the case of your great-uncle, or a date for the marriage, > however approximate? >> >> Have you looked on Leodis.net there are photos of the Hargreaves Nussey >> woolen mill. > > I found that yesterday :-) - but thank you for mentioning it. > > ATB > -- > Mike > Michael Hargreave Mawson > Born in the North Riding, but now a Soft Southern Jessie. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:31:04 -0000 > From: "Jeff" <oakdene.research@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 Census > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <39E03F3BFD2D480EBB2F78D668BF9023@jeffnpathbgxgq> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi June, > > these are occupation codes, used to form listing of occupations. > > Your codes are: > > 130 Agricultural Labourers, Farm Servants - Distinguished as in charge of > Horses > > 621 Millwrights > > Regards > > Jeff > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:47:34 -0000 > From: "steve" <stevew109@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 Census > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000e01cce41d$7b0dfac0$7129f040$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, is there a list of these numbers we can see/download? Would be handy for > reference. > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff > Sent: 05 February 2012 15:31 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 Census > > Hi June, > > these are occupation codes, used to form listing of occupations. > > Your codes are: > > 130 Agricultural Labourers, Farm Servants - Distinguished as in charge of > Horses > > 621 Millwrights > > Regards > > Jeff > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4790 - Release Date: 02/05/12 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:04:06 +0000 > From: Kathryn Hughes <kathryn_hughes@live.co.uk> > Subject: [WRY] Yorkshire WWI soldiers - wounded > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DUB112-W28129D557670B1FC14B7E5D6770@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi I have just posted a list of 6 soldiers that were wounded on my blog they were found on a sheet in amongst and individuals WW1 service record and as the info might not be available anywhere else I transcribed them. They come from the > > 2nd West Yorks > 5th Kings Own Yorks Light Infantry > 1/4 West Yorks > 9th Duke of Wellington's West Riding > > http://bradfordww1.blogspot.com/2012/02/yorkshire-soldiers-wounded.html > > I hope they will be of use to someone > > Kathryn > > Kathryn Hughes PhD > WestYorkshireLives.co.uk > BradfordWW1.co.uk > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 12 > ******************************************

    02/05/2012 02:58:51
    1. Re: [WRY] Numbers on 2011 census
    2. Karen Hodges
    3. Hi June It was possibly a running count of the number of people in that census area. Karen On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, June Chan <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> wrote: > I have been checking the 2011 for my Yorkshire Ancestors on the 2011 census > and notice that in column 15 there are many handwritten numbers. On one > particular census one person has the number 130 and another 621. I have > tried to find information on google without any luck and wonder if anyone > on > the site might be able to help. > > > > Thank you > > > > June > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2012 02:55:46