Terry, The Baptism (not Birth) of Sarah JAGGER, dau. of John & mary, is 19 Sep 1824 at Bradford Primitive Methodist Chapel Gordon. On 5 March 2012 13:37, Terry Good <twgood@frontier.com> wrote: > JAGGER, Sarah: I wish to confirm any of the following data: > her date of birth - August 18, 1824, in Bradford or Halifax. > her parents names - John JAGGER and Mary BOLTON both of Halifax > her marriage to David CROSSLEY of Rochdale > the birth of a daughter, Hannah Elina CROSSLEY, February 18, 1854 > > At some date after this they immigrated to America where another child, > John CROSSLEY, > was born May 4, 1858, in Massachusetts. > > Thank you, > Terry Good > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

JAGGER, Sarah: I wish to confirm any of the following data: her date of birth - August 18, 1824, in Bradford or Halifax. her parents names - John JAGGER and Mary BOLTON both of Halifax her marriage to David CROSSLEY of Rochdale the birth of a daughter, Hannah Elina CROSSLEY, February 18, 1854 At some date after this they immigrated to America where another child, John CROSSLEY, was born May 4, 1858, in Massachusetts. Thank you, Terry Good

Am hoping to find someone on List that was familiar with a Hairdressing Salon in Almondbury run by a Norah Taylor. Unfortunately cannot give precise dates but most likely 1940's onward. Norah was a BRUNYATE & married to my Uncle Harry TAYLOR (Harry was deaf so perhaps that may jar a memory or 2), they had one of the few thatched houses left in Almondbury, have pic of it from local newspaper dated 1957. Both deceased in the 70's. Looking for "memories" for my Family Tree. Ellen (in Canada)

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Hello Steve Thank you so much for your help, it's wonderful, I really do appreciate it. Regards Sandy Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:17:26 -0000 >From: "Steve Bamford" <stevebamf@googlemail.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Saddleworth Marriages BROADBENT >To: "'Glenn & Sandra Matheson'" <gsbm2@bigpond.com>, <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <FAE6CB3B76654655A1764BE67153EBE8@PC> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sandy, >The following is from Radcliffe's transcription of St Chad's Parish >Records: >"5 December 1751 Wm. Broadbent, Castleshaw, clor., & Mary Shaw, spr.". >There is also a footnote: "William Broadbent, Delph, d. 24 April 1801, aged >81 years; and Mary, his w., d. 15 Nov., 1793, in 62 yr. Buried at St. >Thomas's Ch., Friarmere". >Unfortunately the marriage record doesn't give a lot more information than >you already have, though the information on William and Mary's deaths may >be useful if you haven't already got it. I'm not sure if the original >record >would have any more information, but I suspect not as they didn't in those >days. >I don't know how familiar you are with parish records, but if you want any >help with the abbreviations I'd be happy to help. >Regards >Steve >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:44:05 +1100 >From: "Glenn & Sandra Matheson" <gsbm2@bigpond.com> >Subject: [WRY] Saddleworth Marriages BROADBENT >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <20120219024406.IJVL1840.nskntotgx04p.mx.bigpond.com@SandraPC> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Does anyone have access to the marriages of St Chad Saddleworth who would >be >willing to do a lookup for me. The marriage is between William Broadbent >and >Mary Shaw 5 Dec 1751. Thank you in anticipation Regards Sandy Australia

Does anyone have access to the marriages of St Chad Saddleworth who would be willing to do a lookup for me. The marriage is between William Broadbent and Mary Shaw 5 Dec 1751. Thank you in anticipation Regards Sandy Australia

Sandy, The following is from Radcliffe's transcription of St Chad's Parish Records: "5 December 1751 Wm. Broadbent, Castleshaw, clor., & Mary Shaw, spr.". There is also a footnote: "William Broadbent, Delph, d. 24 April 1801, aged 81 years; and Mary, his w., d. 15 Nov., 1793, in 62 yr. Buried at St. Thomas's Ch., Friarmere". Unfortunately the marriage record doesn't give a lot more information than you already have, though the information on William and Mary's deaths may be useful if you haven't already got it. I'm not sure if the original record would have any more information, but I suspect not as they didn't in those days. I don't know how familiar you are with parish records, but if you want any help with the abbreviations I'd be happy to help. Regards Steve Message: 2 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:44:05 +1100 From: "Glenn & Sandra Matheson" <gsbm2@bigpond.com> Subject: [WRY] Saddleworth Marriages BROADBENT To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <20120219024406.IJVL1840.nskntotgx04p.mx.bigpond.com@SandraPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have access to the marriages of St Chad Saddleworth who would be willing to do a lookup for me. The marriage is between William Broadbent and Mary Shaw 5 Dec 1751. Thank you in anticipation Regards Sandy Australia

Good evening, with regards to the marriage of my 2x great uncle William Hargreaves, Elaine i shall have a look thank you. Denise, just seconds before i read your email i was checking out every sarah annie born in the whole of england and guess what, one matched perfect! Sarah Annie Smith born Tetbury :) so the one that leeds said did not match is mine, Williams father must have been incorrect or our Richard had another name he never used. So now i need to get back to Leeds and see if they actually hold the record or whether it is Sheffield. Very odd for a man who was always known to be born Sowerby Bridge, and is stated as so on every census was not. Anne Ben so kindly just located him to be born Wakefield? Very odd, and if the marriage is Leeds Wortley that too is wierd. I guess he could have moved about for work. William was an engineer. Sheffield would be a possibility. I guess i shall find out when i get that cert. Im just going to take a chance on it now that i am more sure than before. Thank you everyone who has helped and given ideas :) Kind regards Louise Wortley

Thank you everyone so far for your help. Thank you Jenny, when you mentioned that if they had children on the 1911 to obtain the birth cert to ascertain the mothers maiden name, i knew they had no children but remembered my mum mentioning they had a child that died, which on the census it asks any children born alive, answer 1, any children died, answer 1. This gave me the idea to try find a child to a william and sarah annie on familysearch.org, i did find a charles henry in the area that sarah annie was born to a william and sarah ann. but cannot match a death. so i have not managed to get anywhere. I thought it would be good to find a sarah annie born tetbury on the census' 1891 and previous born approx 1873, but nothing. I thought i may come accross one who may have moved to yorkshire or birmingham area. but nothing. Any ideas guys? Kind regards Louise Wortley On 18 Feb 2012, at 15:06, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 (Louise Wortley) > 2. West Riding Archives data on Ancestry (John Hanson) > 3. Wortley (Roger Gill) > 4. Re: Wortley (Pontefract FHS) > 5. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (Jenny De Angelis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:08:54 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <F2DD4B3D-94AB-47DC-B921-6CC27DB6D299@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Bill, > > Thank you very much for your reply, > > That is my family you found on the 1881, i already have the census' though it is the birth/christening records for William and williams marriage i need. > > I have no idea where they could have married, and there only seems to be one possibility, which i have been told is not mine, not unless Williams father was not Richard but actually William, which i doubt since William was named after his grandad and i have Richard's birth cert, marriage cert and grave stone details, he was 100% Richard! > > I look forward to hearing from everyone. > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley > > > On 18 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (Louise Wortley) >> 2. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (bill) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. >> >> I have had an issue. >> >> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >> >> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >> >> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >> >> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >> >> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >> >> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:11:13 +1100 >> From: bill <nomads71@bigpond.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4F3EFAB1.2050805@bigpond.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi Louise >> William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax >> father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. >> can send you image of line. >> Bill >> Avoca Beach >> Nsw >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 >> ****************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:10:33 -0000 > From: "John Hanson" <john.hanson@one-name.org> > Subject: [WRY] West Riding Archives data on Ancestry > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com>, <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000301ccee1d$2d58ac30$880a0490$@one-name.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Anyone looking for information from the West Riding Archives data on > Ancestry might want to go back and look again. > > It would appear that they have updated the database. > > They have certainly added the missing marriages from 1860-1871 for St > Peters, Leeds > > They have also extended the range of the marriage from 1813 up to 1935 > instead of 1921 > > Regards > John Hanson - Researching Halstead and its variants worldwide > www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:41:52 +0000 (GMT) > From: Roger Gill <roger.d.gill@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WRY] Wortley > To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1329565312.57729.YahooMailNeo@web87402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Louise > > Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration Districtincluding many townships in that locality. > Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at various times upto 1974. > The link below will take you there. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html > > Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. > > Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah? Annie Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather frowned upon in those days! > > > Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the parents names. > > > Regards > > > Roger > > Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. > > http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm > http://rogergill.me.uk > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have >> photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my >> direct ancestors. >> >> I have had an issue. >> >> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are >> Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know >> Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 >> Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >> >> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry >> that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed >> this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father >> was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they >> giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >> >> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has >> nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, >> are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they >> couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >> >> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is >> hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my >> family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >> >> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only >> one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was >> not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby >> Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >> >> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find >> anything. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:36:21 -0000 > From: "Pontefract FHS" <pontefhs@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Wortley > To: "Roger Gill" <roger.d.gill@btinternet.com>, > <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D448BAEF035B46F9B54AD075D0197155@SharonTOSH> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi > > Any marriage records that are held by Sheffield Archives will not be on > Ancestry, although traditionally part of the West Riding they are not part > of the West Yorkshire Archives Service who have put the records they hold on > Ancestry. > As far as I am aware Sheffield Archives have signed an agreement to put > their records on Find My Past and not Ancestry. > > Sharon Buchanan > vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk > > www.pontefractfhs.org.uk > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Roger Gill" <roger.d.gill@btinternet.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:41 AM > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [WRY] Wortley > >> Hi Louise >> >> Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of >> Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration >> Districtincluding many townships in that locality. >> Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at >> various times upto 1974. >> The link below will take you there. >> >> http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html >> >> Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the >> locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, >> which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. >> >> Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and >> Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah Annie >> Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the >> same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather >> frowned upon in those days! >> >> >> Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if >> it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the >> parents names. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Roger >> >> Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many >> others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. >> >> http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm >> http://rogergill.me.uk >> >> >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >>> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >>> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Dear listers, >>> >>> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i >>> have >>> photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of >>> my >>> direct ancestors. >>> >>> I have had an issue. >>> >>> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his >>> parents are >>> Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know >>> Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 >>> Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >>> >>> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only >>> entry >>> that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I >>> presumed >>> this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the >>> father >>> was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were >>> they >>> giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >>> >>> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has >>> nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are >>> saying, >>> are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and >>> they >>> couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >>> >>> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it >>> is >>> hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when >>> my >>> family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >>> >>> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There >>> is only >>> one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william >>> was >>> not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 >>> Sowerby >>> Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >>> >>> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not >>> find >>> anything. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Louise Wortley >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:00:55 +0100 > From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda2@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EB237D99BCCA476BBE2645510E0BD050@jennysasus> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Louise > > If the Leeds registrars told you to ask Sheffield registrars then I doubt > Leeds would know what is contained in the registers held by Sheffield but > they mean > that Sheffield is the office holding ancient registers for the old > Wortley registration District. I found the marriage you mention at Wortley > reg. district on FreeBMD and when you click on the word Wortley in that > entry it takes you forward to details of that Registration District. It > says that Registers are now held by Sheffield, Oldham, Barnsley & > Huddersfield, nothing to do with Leeds at all. The ancient registers for > the old Wortley reg. distrist are split between these 4 offices now, each > holding certain of the original old registers but not all of them in each > place, for each office to hold all of the old wortley register would not be > possible, unless copies had been made for each office to hold, and I doubt > that happened. No, it means that each of the 4 offices hold a section of the > old Wortley registration district according to where each section of the old > district lay. REgitration district boudaries are different to County or > local Council boundaries. Registration District can cross the boundaries > between counties too at times. > > Leeds would have told you to contact Sheffield reg. district office > because Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974 and no doubt Sheffield do > hold the Wortley registers from way back, even though Sheffield didn't take > over Wortley until 1974. Sheffield would have taken on the old registers > from Wortley as part of that 1974 change over. As Wortley is a sub district > of Sheffield these days then Sheffield is where you will be most likely to > find that marriage register from 1899 held. > > I should go back to that 1899 marriage entry on freeBMD and then the page of > details of the Wortley > reg. district by clicking the link for Wortley in the entry as I have done. > You will see that it tells you where the registers are now held, click on > each > registration district name in turn and make a note of their contact details > so that you can contact each one in turn to enquire if they hold the > marriage and if they will check it for you against the fathers name Richard > Hargreaves. You will find that each district has > an e.mail address and a website link. Start with Sheffield as you have been > told to do by Leeds then try the others if that doesn't succeed. > > You have to remember that most couples marry in the Bride's parish, the > parish she was either born in or the parish where she was living at the time > of her marriage, never > mind where the groom came from. William Hargreaves and his wife may have > married somewhere in Herefordshire where she appears to have been born. Or > it could be that she had moved from Herefordshire to another part of > England, maybe Sarah Annie had moved to the Staffordshire area where they > were living in 1901 at Wednesbury, perhaps William Hargreaves had gone there > to work in between 1891 and his marriage around 1898/9. > > I checked on the Genuki site for the county of Herefordshire and looked for > a place called Tedbury, there wasn't one listed. There is a Tetbury in > Gloucestershire which is about an hours drive from Ledbury Herefordshire, > crossing the Severn bridge on the way. The only place I can find that has > a name similar to Tedbury in Herefordshire is Ledbury, I think this is more > than likely the place name meant for Sarah Annie's birth place,if > she was indeed born in Herefordshire. Have a look at the Genuki site at > > www.genuki.org.uk > > Select England and then the county as Herefordshire or Yorkshire according > to what which county you want to know more about. On each county's main > page you will find a link at the top to Towns and parishes, listed > alphabetically. > > There is a place called Thornbury in Herefordshire that might be of > interest, the writing in that 1901 census entry is difficult to read. Just > look at the surname Hargreaves in the 1901 and how it is written it is a > real mess, Sarah Annie's birthplace is not easy to make out, but my guess is > it says Ledbury, or maybe Thornbury, Herefordshire > > On the main Genuki page for England you will find a link for Civil > Registration where you will find lots of information on the subject. > > If you have found the couple in the 1911 census with children then it might > be an idea to order a copy of one of the children's birth certificate to > find out what their mother's maiden name was. A more expensive way of > getting to the marriage certificate but it seems it might be the only way if > you can't find the marriage any other way in the indexes. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > <<I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i > have > photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my > direct ancestors. > I have had an issue. > I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents > are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I > know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the > 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. > The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only > entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I > presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry > and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that > an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try > Sheffield.<< > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 > ******************************************

Thanks for the info John. Found one marriage in the later years which links one of my "unconnected" modern Micklethwaite branches into the older set. Still working through the less obvious ones. Andy. At 09:10 18/02/2012, John Hanson wrote: >Anyone looking for information from the West Riding Archives data on >Ancestry might want to go back and look again. > >It would appear that they have updated the database. > >They have certainly added the missing marriages from 1860-1871 for St >Peters, Leeds > >They have also extended the range of the marriage from 1813 up to 1935 >instead of 1921 > >Regards >John Hanson - Researching Halstead and its variants worldwide >www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > >Some useful websites - >FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > >Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise If the Leeds registrars told you to ask Sheffield registrars then I doubt Leeds would know what is contained in the registers held by Sheffield but they mean that Sheffield is the office holding ancient registers for the old Wortley registration District. I found the marriage you mention at Wortley reg. district on FreeBMD and when you click on the word Wortley in that entry it takes you forward to details of that Registration District. It says that Registers are now held by Sheffield, Oldham, Barnsley & Huddersfield, nothing to do with Leeds at all. The ancient registers for the old Wortley reg. distrist are split between these 4 offices now, each holding certain of the original old registers but not all of them in each place, for each office to hold all of the old wortley register would not be possible, unless copies had been made for each office to hold, and I doubt that happened. No, it means that each of the 4 offices hold a section of the old Wortley registration district according to where each section of the old district lay. REgitration district boudaries are different to County or local Council boundaries. Registration District can cross the boundaries between counties too at times. Leeds would have told you to contact Sheffield reg. district office because Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974 and no doubt Sheffield do hold the Wortley registers from way back, even though Sheffield didn't take over Wortley until 1974. Sheffield would have taken on the old registers from Wortley as part of that 1974 change over. As Wortley is a sub district of Sheffield these days then Sheffield is where you will be most likely to find that marriage register from 1899 held. I should go back to that 1899 marriage entry on freeBMD and then the page of details of the Wortley reg. district by clicking the link for Wortley in the entry as I have done. You will see that it tells you where the registers are now held, click on each registration district name in turn and make a note of their contact details so that you can contact each one in turn to enquire if they hold the marriage and if they will check it for you against the fathers name Richard Hargreaves. You will find that each district has an e.mail address and a website link. Start with Sheffield as you have been told to do by Leeds then try the others if that doesn't succeed. You have to remember that most couples marry in the Bride's parish, the parish she was either born in or the parish where she was living at the time of her marriage, never mind where the groom came from. William Hargreaves and his wife may have married somewhere in Herefordshire where she appears to have been born. Or it could be that she had moved from Herefordshire to another part of England, maybe Sarah Annie had moved to the Staffordshire area where they were living in 1901 at Wednesbury, perhaps William Hargreaves had gone there to work in between 1891 and his marriage around 1898/9. I checked on the Genuki site for the county of Herefordshire and looked for a place called Tedbury, there wasn't one listed. There is a Tetbury in Gloucestershire which is about an hours drive from Ledbury Herefordshire, crossing the Severn bridge on the way. The only place I can find that has a name similar to Tedbury in Herefordshire is Ledbury, I think this is more than likely the place name meant for Sarah Annie's birth place,if she was indeed born in Herefordshire. Have a look at the Genuki site at www.genuki.org.uk Select England and then the county as Herefordshire or Yorkshire according to what which county you want to know more about. On each county's main page you will find a link at the top to Towns and parishes, listed alphabetically. There is a place called Thornbury in Herefordshire that might be of interest, the writing in that 1901 census entry is difficult to read. Just look at the surname Hargreaves in the 1901 and how it is written it is a real mess, Sarah Annie's birthplace is not easy to make out, but my guess is it says Ledbury, or maybe Thornbury, Herefordshire On the main Genuki page for England you will find a link for Civil Registration where you will find lots of information on the subject. If you have found the couple in the 1911 census with children then it might be an idea to order a copy of one of the children's birth certificate to find out what their mother's maiden name was. A more expensive way of getting to the marriage certificate but it seems it might be the only way if you can't find the marriage any other way in the indexes. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. I have had an issue. I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield.<<

Hi Any marriage records that are held by Sheffield Archives will not be on Ancestry, although traditionally part of the West Riding they are not part of the West Yorkshire Archives Service who have put the records they hold on Ancestry. As far as I am aware Sheffield Archives have signed an agreement to put their records on Find My Past and not Ancestry. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Gill" <roger.d.gill@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:41 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WRY] Wortley > Hi Louise > > Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of > Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration > Districtincluding many townships in that locality. > Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at > various times upto 1974. > The link below will take you there. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html > > Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the > locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, > which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. > > Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and > Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah Annie > Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the > same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather > frowned upon in those days! > > > Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if > it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the > parents names. > > > Regards > > > Roger > > Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many > others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. > > http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm > http://rogergill.me.uk > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i >> have >> photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of >> my >> direct ancestors. >> >> I have had an issue. >> >> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his >> parents are >> Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know >> Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 >> Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >> >> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only >> entry >> that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I >> presumed >> this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the >> father >> was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were >> they >> giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >> >> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has >> nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are >> saying, >> are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and >> they >> couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >> >> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it >> is >> hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when >> my >> family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >> >> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There >> is only >> one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william >> was >> not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 >> Sowerby >> Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >> >> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not >> find >> anything. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. can send you image of line. Bill Avoca Beach Nsw

Hi Louise Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration Districtincluding many townships in that locality. Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at various times upto 1974. The link below will take you there. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah  Annie Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather frowned upon in those days! Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the parents names. Regards Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm http://rogergill.me.uk > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear listers, > > I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have > photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my > direct ancestors. > > I have had an issue. > > I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are > Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know > Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 > Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. > > The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry > that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed > this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father > was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they > giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. > > On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has > nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, > are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they > couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? > > Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is > hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my > family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. > > Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only > one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was > not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby > Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. > > I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find > anything. > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley

Anyone looking for information from the West Riding Archives data on Ancestry might want to go back and look again. It would appear that they have updated the database. They have certainly added the missing marriages from 1860-1871 for St Peters, Leeds They have also extended the range of the marriage from 1813 up to 1935 instead of 1921 Regards John Hanson - Researching Halstead and its variants worldwide www.halstedresearch.org.uk

Hello Bill, Thank you very much for your reply, That is my family you found on the 1881, i already have the census' though it is the birth/christening records for William and williams marriage i need. I have no idea where they could have married, and there only seems to be one possibility, which i have been told is not mine, not unless Williams father was not Richard but actually William, which i doubt since William was named after his grandad and i have Richard's birth cert, marriage cert and grave stone details, he was 100% Richard! I look forward to hearing from everyone. Kind regards Louise Wortley On 18 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (Louise Wortley) > 2. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (bill) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear listers, > > I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. > > I have had an issue. > > I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. > > The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. > > On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? > > Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. > > Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. > > I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley > > > > > > > On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:11:13 +1100 > From: bill <nomads71@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4F3EFAB1.2050805@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Louise > William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax > father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. > can send you image of line. > Bill > Avoca Beach > Nsw > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 > ******************************************

Hi Louise, Perhaps the father's name on the certificate was a mistake.  I have had that happen before.  Maybe you should just bite the bullet and buy the certificate and see if the witnesses will give you a clue.  Or you could wait and see if it eventually shows up on Ancestry. Denise V ________________________________ From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 Hello Bill, Thank you very much for your reply, That is my family you found on the 1881, i already have the census' though it is the birth/christening records for William and williams marriage i need. I have no idea where they could have married, and there only seems to be one possibility, which i have been told is not mine, not unless Williams father was not Richard but actually William, which i doubt since William was named after his grandad and i have Richard's birth cert, marriage cert and grave stone details, he was 100% Richard! I look forward to hearing from everyone. Kind regards Louise Wortley On 18 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Re:  WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (Louise Wortley) >  2. Re:  WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (bill) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear listers, > > I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. > > I have had an issue. > > I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. > > The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. > > On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? > > Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. > > Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. > > I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley > > > > > > > On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:11:13 +1100 > From: bill <nomads71@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4F3EFAB1.2050805@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Louise > William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax > father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. > can send you image of line. >                                                  Bill >                                                  Avoca Beach >                                                  Nsw > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 > ****************************************** Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise, We at Sheffield Indexers have transcribed St Leonards, Wortley by Penistone from 1775 to 1842. Ours is a free site and you can search our database. Under Parish Registers. http.www.sheffieldindexers.com I believe that Wortley by Penistone  parish fell under the Ancient Parish of Tankersley. There is also a Registration District called Wortley  from at least 1850. It covers a large area of what is now South Yorkshire from Sheffield up to just south of Barnsley. If you need further help feel free to post a message on our Forum.   Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.sheffieldindexers.com >________________________________ > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:08:54 AM >Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 > >Hello Bill, > >Thank you very much for your reply, > >That is my family you found on the 1881, i already have the census' though it is the birth/christening records for William and williams marriage i need. > >I have no idea where they could have married, and there only seems to be one possibility, which i have been told is not mine, not unless Williams father was not Richard but actually William, which i doubt since William was named after his grandad and i have Richard's birth cert, marriage cert and grave stone details, he was 100% Richard! > >I look forward to hearing from everyone. > >Kind regards > >Louise Wortley > > >On 18 Feb 2012, at 08:01, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>  1. Re:  WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (Louise Wortley) >>  2. Re:  WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 (bill) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. >> >> I have had an issue. >> >> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >> >> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >> >> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >> >> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >> >> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >> >> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:11:13 +1100 >> From: bill <nomads71@bigpond.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4F3EFAB1.2050805@bigpond.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi Louise >> William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax >> father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. >> can send you image of line. >>                                                  Bill >>                                                  Avoca Beach >>                                                  Nsw >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 21 >> ****************************************** > > >Some useful websites - >FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > >Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear listers, I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. I have had an issue. I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. Kind regards Louise Wortley On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! (JANICE WOOD) > 2. Re: [YORKSGEN] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > (roy.stockdill@btinternet.com) > 3. WRY PRs. on Ancestry & the Surname HIRST Badsworth, Owston & > Campsall. (Jenny De Angelis) > 4. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 (Keith Booth) > 5. Re: Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Pontefract FHS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:47:53 +0000 (GMT) > From: JANICE WOOD <janwood50@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WRY] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1328957273.14057.YahooMailNeo@web87208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello all, > ? > Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February.? http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com?Yorkshire will be very well represented there - > ? > In the Yorkshire Corner will be: > ? > The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. > They?have publications for sale and information from all the societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with your enquiries. More details on > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/ ? Wharfedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/ > ? > Ryedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/ > ? > Yorkshire Ancestors > For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk > ? > For all other exhibitors, please see http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors > Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you to see.? See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? Magazine, which includes a show guide. > ? > Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on Saturday 25th. > ? > Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy tickets at the door at 22 pounds each. > ? > (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this email if you would like one). > ? > We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket! > ? > Hope to see you there!? If you are there, please stop and say hello! > ? > Janice Wood > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:51:50 -0000 > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] [YORKSGEN] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> > Cc: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4F365656.11307.2FD3B3@roy.stockdill.btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > From: "JANICE WOOD" <janwood50@btinternet.com> > >> Hello all, >> >> Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family >> history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, >> Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February. >> http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com Yorkshire will be very well >> represented there - >> >> In the Yorkshire Corner will be: >> >> The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. >> They have publications for sale and information from all the >> societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with >> your enquiries. More details on >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/ >> >> Wharfedale Family History Group >> For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/ >> >> Ryedale Family History Group >> For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/ >> >> Yorkshire Ancestors >> For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & >> http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk >> >> For all other exhibitors, please see >> http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors >> Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much >> more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you >> to see. See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? >> Magazine, which includes a show guide. >> >> Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the >> show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be >> there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a >> workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on >> Saturday 25th. >> >> Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy >> tickets at the door at 22 pounds each. >> >> (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this >> email if you would like one). >> >> We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned >> stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people >> to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can >> help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket! >> >> Hope to see you there! If you are there, please stop and say >> hello! >> >> Janice Wood >> ..... >> Ancestors in Yorkshire? >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >> www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >> www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > > Further to Janice's message above, Jackie and I will be on the London Group stand as well > as touring the hall, networking (as I believe it's called). You should easily recognise us, as I > have no doubt Jackie will be wearing one of her fabulous hats and I am planning to wear a > rather gawdy striped blazer with a dark blue Yorkshire tie! We will have some ties for sale on > the stand, if anyone wants to buy one, BTW. > > We have given our joint presentation for the last few years in the SoG's Regional Workshop > but this year Jackie will be leading with her presentation of online resources for Yorkshire, > which is what most people seem to want to know about these days. I will follow up with a > presentation on Yorkshire record offices, local studies libraries and museums, etc, and will > have a handout to give away. > > If you are planning to be at Olympia, then do drop by the stand. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:54:18 +0100 > From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda2@gmail.com> > Subject: [WRY] WRY PRs. on Ancestry & the Surname HIRST Badsworth, > Owston & Campsall. > To: "WRY" <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <270FC440CC3B4216AB99858E9168CDF6@jennysasus> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am researching the surname HIRST in the Owston & Campsall areas of the WRY > and have made contact with one or two people who share the same family of > Hirst with me. One of these contacts I know has their later Hirsts at > Badsworth where the father isRichard Hirst occ. Butcher and the mother is > Elizabeth. > > Another, more recently found, contact told me today that he had found the > baptisms on the familysearch site for a couple of children of Richard and > Elizabeth at Badsworth, but which I found turned out to be patron > submissions. But I went to the ancestry site and the WRY PRs there for > 1512-1812. I searched for Hirst with the above parents names and up came > daughter Mary baptised in Dec. 1771 and son John baptised in 1774 but noted > by Ancestry as having taken place at Nether Thong All saints. > > Looking at the bottom of "View Record" page for these entries where it gives > information on where the details were taken from give a West Yorks Archives > Service ref. as Old Ref. D 19/4 New Ref. WD19/4 > > Going to the WYAS site and searching for Badsworth parish register I found > that the ref. given there was WD19/1-4 . A search of the WYAS for > Netherthong parish registers brings up a result where the PRs for All Saints > Netherthong date only from 1815 and the ref. if WDP18. The PRs for st. > Andrews Netherthong date from 1878 with ref. WDP 245. > > According to Wikipeadia All Saints church Netherthong was not built until > 1829-30, > > Ancestry it would appear have put the marriages Badsworth correctly under > Badsworth but the baptisms, and possibly the burials too I haven't checked > those, are under Nether Thong. > > I have e.mailed Ancestry to tell them of this apparent error and await their > response. > But I thought others might find the above useful to know if they are looking > for entries in the Badsworth PRs, it pays to check the information at the > bottom of the View Record page that goes with each entry on Ancestry and > look at the relevant CRO ref. number given there. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:06:03 +1300 > From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <3D7E356792C0443996ADD4B23DC711F1@D6HD3S1S> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks to Maureen - I checked out the Castleford Burials as recommended. Not > only did I find Fanny Booth, (died 1907) but also her husband John William > Booth, who pre-deceased her by 6 years, (died 1901) and a (previously > unknown to me) infant son, Jim, who died one week after his father. As > proof, they are all buried in the same grave. > There seemed to be a lot of infants dying Aug-Sep 1901 - was there a 'flu > epidemic around Cas at the time? > Regards, Keith Booth, New Zealand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <west-riding-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:01 PM > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. query re Ayrtons (ANN DAVIS) >> 2. Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Keith Booth) >> 3. Re: Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Maureenpontefhs) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:02:08 +0000 (GMT) >> From: ANN DAVIS <a.p.davis@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [WRY] query re Ayrtons >> To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1328875328.92689.YahooMailNeo@web87202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Thank you to Kathy who gave me two addresses in Halifax and Mike who gave >> me a lot of leads. >> >> >> Ann Davis >> Reading >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:17:11 +1300 >> From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> >> Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <18A2CC1249BD4A9F95F182D1CA70A9D4@D6HD3S1S> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli >> Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above >> ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:34 -0500 (EST) >> From: Maureenpontefhs <maureenpontefhs@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CEB67DCDE01CE5-1474-19FF@webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> hello Keith, >> >> >> you could try the Wakefield area Cemetery/Crematorium website: >> >> >> I found what looks like your Fanny >> >> >> http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/BereavementServices/GenealogySearches/BurialRegisterspre1986/default.htm?forenames=fanny&surname=taylor&match=exact&action=search >> >> >> good luck, you may like to check other names on here, such a very useful >> site >> >> >> best wishes, >> Maureen >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Keith Booth <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> >> To: WEST-RIDING <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 1:17 >> Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> >> >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John >> W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they >> had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. >> was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged >> 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, >> (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli Hopwood, in >> Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this >> to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was >> left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland >> in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 >> ****************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:34:23 -0000 > From: "Pontefract FHS" <pontefhs@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6B0B62E3296048E6AD71C95856B4C4A0@SharonTOSH> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > HI Keith > Images sent off list the burial register for both burials. > > Fanny BOOTH died just a few years after John William in 1907 and was buried > in the same grave in Castleford Cemetery. > > Sharon Buchanan > vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk > > www.pontefractfhs.org.uk > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:17 AM > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli >> Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above >> ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > ******************************************

Thanks to Maureen - I checked out the Castleford Burials as recommended. Not only did I find Fanny Booth, (died 1907) but also her husband John William Booth, who pre-deceased her by 6 years, (died 1901) and a (previously unknown to me) infant son, Jim, who died one week after his father. As proof, they are all buried in the same grave. There seemed to be a lot of infants dying Aug-Sep 1901 - was there a 'flu epidemic around Cas at the time? Regards, Keith Booth, New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: <west-riding-request@rootsweb.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. query re Ayrtons (ANN DAVIS) > 2. Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Keith Booth) > 3. Re: Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Maureenpontefhs) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:02:08 +0000 (GMT) > From: ANN DAVIS <a.p.davis@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WRY] query re Ayrtons > To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1328875328.92689.YahooMailNeo@web87202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thank you to Kathy who gave me two addresses in Halifax and Mike who gave > me a lot of leads. > > > Ann Davis > Reading > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:17:11 +1300 > From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <18A2CC1249BD4A9F95F182D1CA70A9D4@D6HD3S1S> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of > Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. > He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and > they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) > (1892-??). > In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. > John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. > Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. > In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe > John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed > at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary > Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli > Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above > ground. > > Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! > > I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I > believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) > > Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as > she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. > > There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from > Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. > This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? > > All help much appreciated. > > Keith Booth, New Zealand. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:34 -0500 (EST) > From: Maureenpontefhs <maureenpontefhs@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CEB67DCDE01CE5-1474-19FF@webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > hello Keith, > > > you could try the Wakefield area Cemetery/Crematorium website: > > > I found what looks like your Fanny > > > http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/BereavementServices/GenealogySearches/BurialRegisterspre1986/default.htm?forenames=fanny&surname=taylor&match=exact&action=search > > > good luck, you may like to check other names on here, such a very useful > site > > > best wishes, > Maureen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Booth <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > To: WEST-RIDING <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 1:17 > Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > > > Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of > Glasshoughton. John > W. was my great grand uncle. > He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and > they > had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) > (1892-??). > In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. > John W. > was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. > Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. > In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe > John, aged > 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed > at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary > Hopwood, > (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli Hopwood, in > Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above ground. > > Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! > > I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I > believe this > to be my John W. (Mine accident??) > > Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as > she was > left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. > > There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from > Scotland > in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. > This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? > > All help much appreciated. > > Keith Booth, New Zealand. > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to > WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > ******************************************