This is the first time I have noticed DEWSE being researched. It is not on the Yorkshire Surname List. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm I am searching for William DEWSE c 1842 at York (s/o William/Jane Dewse). Jane could be Jane BOTOMWORTH c 1840, Huntingdon, Yks according to IGI ? William married c 1875 Elizabeth GRAINGE (d/o Thomas & Elizabeth Ann GRAINGE) By 1901 they are in Manchester, Lancaster. By 1917 the father is in Cheshire. A son William Grainge Dewse born 4th qtr 1879 at York came to Ontario, Canada c 1907 and married Laura Spiers HARPER (d/o Andrew James HARPER and Louisa Kate BYRNE) Another son George Edward Dewse c 1884 signed up for WW1 in Ontario and is buried 1947 by the Veterans Dept in Toronto, Ontario.

Hello I always order mine from the local register office but as I live in England it is easier than if you live abroad. My main reason for ordering from the local office is that you get a copy of the original certificate. From the GRO you only get a copy of a copy. Not all local offices take payment by Credit/Debit Card tho' but Leeds Register Office does so I would always go there wherever I lived. Three days max is the normal delivery time for them but again that is if it is mailed to someone here. A lot of the local offices take credit card payments over the phone but not online. I would never order a marriage certificate from the GRO because you get a copy of a copy whereas if you order from a local office you get a photocopy of the original complete with your ancestors signatures unless, of course, they could not write. Just one more thing - if the certificate that you have applied for is not the right one and does not agree with details you have given you get a FULL refund from the local office. The GRO keeps part of the payment for the search. Just my two penn'orth but I would go local every time. Kind regards Judith K Mary Heppell <heppell2@bigpond.com> wrote: Hello Carol, I order my certs. from the GRO and when I call them you can choose to receive them within a week or choose a cheaper 8 ponds and that takes about two weeks. I usually order the 8 ponds order. I live in Australia. Mary > This may have been discussed before but does anyone know if there are > advantages or disadvantages to request a birth certificate from the local > Registry Office > vs the General Registry Office. > > I have found my grandfather's birth record as well as marriage record in the > Yorkshire area so they would be available through the Leeds Registry > but I am wondering if someone could comment on this. > > Thank you kindly. > > Carol Ann Rigg (Canada) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol, It depends on the local office. Some are more obliging than others. It depends how busy they are, I suppose. I have bought my certificates from the GRO online recently and they always come within a week, but I don't know what they are like at sending abroad. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Ann Pelletier" <carpel@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:43 AM Subject: [WRY] Local REgistry Office vs General Registry Office > This may have been discussed before but does anyone know if there are > advantages or disadvantages to request a birth certificate from the local > Registry Office > vs the General Registry Office. > > I have found my grandfather's birth record as well as marriage record in > the Yorkshire area so they would be available through the Leeds Registry > but I am wondering if someone could comment on this. > > Thank you kindly. > > Carol Ann Rigg (Canada) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 22/08/2007 > 18:51 > >

Thank you, Josie. Yes, that does make sense. Thank you. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Josie Morson Sent: 24 August 2007 00:49 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Legitimation Marilyn, It could possibly be that Charles would be starting work at the age of 14 and would need a birth certificate to prove his age. It could be that his parents had not told him that he was illegitimate, so needed to make his birth look normal. Josie. *********In the June Q of 1925 Charles' birth was re-registered as Charles ABBISHAW, mother's maiden name SAVAGE, and a hand-written cross-reference under ABBISHAW appears in the March Q 1911 GRO births index. Was this re-registering of the birth in 1925 actually illegal? Can anyone think of a reason why the ABBISHAWs would suddenly decide to re-register Charles' birth fourteen years after his birth and ten years after their marriage?********** Marilyn Maybury OUTGOING MAIL PROTECTED BY AVG SECURITY SYSTEMS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 22/08/2007 18:51 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 23/08/2007 16:04 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 23/08/2007 16:04

Marilyn, It could possibly be that Charles would be starting work at the age of 14 and would need a birth certificate to prove his age. It could be that his parents had not told him that he was illegitimate, so needed to make his birth look normal. Josie. *********In the June Q of 1925 Charles' birth was re-registered as Charles ABBISHAW, mother's maiden name SAVAGE, and a hand-written cross-reference under ABBISHAW appears in the March Q 1911 GRO births index. Was this re-registering of the birth in 1925 actually illegal? Can anyone think of a reason why the ABBISHAWs would suddenly decide to re-register Charles' birth fourteen years after his birth and ten years after their marriage?********** Marilyn Maybury OUTGOING MAIL PROTECTED BY AVG SECURITY SYSTEMS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 22/08/2007 18:51

The Legitimacy Act of 1926 (it came into force with effect from 01 January 1927), made it possible to re-register the birth of an illegitimate child if the parents had subsequently married. However, we have an instance of the same thing happening in Hunslet in 1925. The birth of Charles Abbishaw SAVAGE, mother's maiden name SAVAGE, was registered in Hunslet in the March Q of 1911. Stephen Purdy ABBISHAW and Mary SAVAGE married in 1915. In the June Q of 1925 Charles' birth was re-registered as Charles ABBISHAW, mother's maiden name SAVAGE, and a hand-written cross-reference under ABBISHAW appears in the March Q 1911 GRO births index. Was this re-registering of the birth in 1925 actually illegal? Can anyone think of a reason why the ABBISHAWs would suddenly decide to re-register Charles' birth fourteen years after his birth and ten years after their marriage? Any advice or suggestions gratefully received. Marilyn Maybury No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 23/08/2007 16:04

This may have been discussed before but does anyone know if there are advantages or disadvantages to request a birth certificate from the local Registry Office vs the General Registry Office. I have found my grandfather's birth record as well as marriage record in the Yorkshire area so they would be available through the Leeds Registry but I am wondering if someone could comment on this. Thank you kindly. Carol Ann Rigg (Canada)

Dear Alan My 5g-grandparents were Samuel DEWSE and Judith (ELLIS) who married in Dewsbury on 11 Feb 1761 according to the IGI (extracted from parish register.) My descent is from their daughter Judith who married James SMITH. Does that ring any bells? The only information I have on Samuel and Judith (snr) is from their marriage, the baptisms of their children, and a 'possible' for Samuel's own baptism in Dewsbury in February 1745, the son of Richard. If that is the correct one, and if it was an infant baptism, it would mean Samuel was 16 at marriage, which of course is quite possible. Samuel and Judith had 6 children in the 11 years after their marriage, then I cannot trace any more. If they were in their teens when they married this seems unlikely unless one of them died, but again I haven't been able to trace that. The other possibilities are that Samuel was not an infant when he was baptised, or that the one in 1745 is the wrong one. Althought the marriages are Dewsbury, the baptisms are Ossett, so I suspect that is where they lived. No doubt somebody will correct me if I'm mistaken but Ossett seems to have had its own baptism registers back to 1746 but not its own marriage registers until much later. I have a fair bit more information on Judith (DEWSE) SMITH and succeeding generations if you are interested. Kim Alan <alan_e_wright@dodo.com.au> wrote: Dear Friends, This is Alan Wright returning to the List Main interests in the WRY are: DEWSE (Dewsbury) --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.

G 7W WILMAN MARY ELIZABETH THORNTON 12/12/1868 4 MTHS G 7W WILMAN HARRIET HANNAH THORNTON 23/11/1869 2 WKS 5 DAYS C 9W WILMAN GEORGE THORNTON 14/ 9/1870 61 YRS C 9W WILMAN LYDIA THORNTON 30/11/1872 62 YRS G 7W WILMAN DAN THORNTON 20/10/1874 2 YRS V27E WILMAN GEORGE THORNTON 29/12/1876 61 YRS G 7W WILMAN FRED THORNTON 28/ 5/1878 7 YRS S17E WILMAN JOSEPH THORNTON 13/ 1/1883 6 MTHS G 7W WILMAN JOSEPH THORNTON 15/ 1/1883 47 YRS V27E WILMAN HOLMES THORNTON 4/10/1889 8 MTHS V14E WILMAN BETTY MENSTON 2/11/1892 61 YRS S17E WILMAN CHARLES THORNTON 2/ 1/1900 62 YRS S17E WILMAN ANNICE 15,HIGH STREET 12/ 2/1914 74 YRS V27E WILMAN SQUIRE 5,CONCRETE STREET,HALIFAX 24/11/1914 57 YRS C 9W WILMAN ANN 29,HIGH STREET 18/11/1915 70 YRS C 9W WILMAN MARY 29.HIGH STREET 1/ 3/1917 74 YRS E WILMAN JONAS 6,HOWANS,HALIFAX 24/ 9/1920 28 YRS S17E WILMAN SARAH JANE 24,HIGH STREET 5/ 2/1934 62 YRS C 9W WILMAN GEORGE 23,BACK HIGH STREET 13/12/1938 70 YRS B 2W WILMAN EMILY 86,KING PARK LANE,BRADFORD 22/ 2/1943 68 YRS >From the Old Graveyard V 10 (Flat, on built-up sides.) In Memory of Squire WILMAN of Thornton, who departed this life Sep 26th 1836 aged 33 years. Also two of his daughters, Martha and Jane who died in their infancy. “Rejoice for a Deceased, Our loss is His infinite gain, A soul out of prison released, And freed from his bodily chains, With songs let us follow his flight, And mount with his spirit above, Escape to the mansions of light, And lodg’d in the Eden of love”. Also of Mary Ann WILMAN daughter of the above, who died August 12 1852 in the 24th year of her age. Also of Herbert, son of the above Squire WILMAN, born at Thornton 4th June 1834. died Kenilworth, Cape Town, South Africa, 25 February 1914 X/Y 10 (Flat, on ground.) [Cracked.] Here lieth the body of Betty WILMAN, who departed this life the 30th day of May, in the year of our Lord 1741(?), and in the 21st year of her age ( Cracked. ) Here lieth the body of Mary, the wife of John WILMAN, who departed this life the 8th day of May in ye year of our Lord 1757. Also here lieth the body of John WILMAN, husband of the above said lady, who departed this life the 1st day of May 1783, in the 97th(?) year of his age. Also here lieth the body of Samuel WILMAN who departed this life April 23rd, in the 66th year of his age >From the New Graveyard C 9W In Memory of George WILMAN of Hill Top, Thornton, who died Sepr 10th 1870, in the 61st year of his age. Also Lydia , wife of the above, who died Novr 26th 1872, in the 63rd year of her age. Also of Ann daughter of the above, who died November 14th 1915, in her 71st year. Also of Mary. daughter of the above, who died February 27th 1917 in her 75th year. Also of Hannah REDMAN who died Aug 31st 1936, aged 71 years. Also of George WILMAN who died Dec 10th 1938 aged 70 years. G 7W In Memory of Fred, son of Joseph & Elizabeth WILMAN of Thornton, who died May 24th 1878, aged 7 years. Also of the above named Joseph WILMAN, who died January 11th 1883 aged 47 years. Also of four of their children who died in infancy. Mabel in NZ

whoops my rich text editor was on Just wondered if Wigglesworth family came from Wigglesworth village in Ribblesdale-Ribblesvalley Terry Norway (finaly suuuunshine hurray) From: "TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY" <terrysundbya0felan3@hotmail.com> Reply-To: west-riding@rootsweb.com To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] MY SURNAMES Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:02:03 +0200 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Music http://music.msn.no Finn din favorittmusikk blant nesten 1 million låter

Dear Friends, This is Alan Wright returning to the List after unsubscribing myself for a few weeks (because of commitments away from home). Main interests in the WRY are: WRIGHT (Dewsbury & Holmfirth area) HINCHLIFFE (Holmfirth area) PICKLES (Holmfirth) and DEWSE (Dewsbury) Also I have had a change of email address. Cheers Alan

Allen I see the name WRIGHT---do you have any from the Barnsley area---my Gmother is Mary Wright Scales---born abt 1850--father is John Wright---she was living at #12 Heelis St Barnsley when married She married my Gfather George A Scales 13 Dec 1869 at the Parish of St John, Barnsley Hope to hear from you My Regards Richard USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <alan_e_wright@dodo.com.au> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:01 AM Subject: [WRY] Returning to List - Alan Wright > Dear Friends, > > This is Alan Wright returning to the List after unsubscribing myself for a > few weeks (because of commitments away from home). > > Main interests in the WRY are: > WRIGHT (Dewsbury & Holmfirth area) > HINCHLIFFE (Holmfirth area) > PICKLES (Holmfirth) and > DEWSE (Dewsbury) > > Also I have had a change of email address. > > Cheers > Alan > >

Thank you for your interest Sandra. It is so frustration to have so much information, yet not be able to piece it together. I did wonder if the wife just deserted, but it would have been just after Josua was born and she left all here children behind. I have found no indication that she re-married, and John certainly did, in 1814 in Scrooby to Harriet Milner. I don't have a death for John. There is not one on the Notts burial records CD, and I have not found him in the 1841 census on Ancestry. He is possibly on the 1841 census living with the Farish family in Sheffield, but there is also an Elizabeth Strafford there, too old to be his daughter, (who married anyway) and not the wife he married in 1814. It is also a bit old for him, even allowing for rounding up. A John Strafford died in Sheffield in 1835 age 54, before BMD records, so no information is given. Two John Straffords died in Sheffield between 1837 and 1841, but I have matched them with other families. Regards Margaret On 22 Aug 2007, at 12:49, S Todd wrote: Hi, Just a thought - a second wife doesn't necessarily mean the death of a first wife. Maybe she uped and left for pastures greener. Bigamy would not be a new thing! However Scrooby is just a small place and maybe the neighbours would talk about a bigamous marriage. Did you actually find a marriage for John and his second wife. Have a look for a death for Ann in the early BMD years. What about a death for John - if its a cert who notified the death? Have you looked for any Strafford/Crossley combinations on the 1841, not just Scrobby or Wath. Try the surrounding areas, try different spellings, try looking on the census on Ancestry, you can search it by first name only with birth year etc - I've done searches this way and found elusive ancestors with very strang spellings. Regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [WRY] Opinions needed please > I need advice about my STRAFFORD family. Please let me know what > you think. These are the facts I have: > > John STRAFFORD married Ann CROSSLEY in Wath upon Dearne 7/3/1799. > John of the parish of Scrooby, Notts, Ann otp > They had children in Scooby between 1800 and 1810 when Ann > 'disappears'. The children are Mary Ann, Elizah, John, Adelina, > Henery and Josua. The only other STRAFFORD births I have found in > Scrooby are those of John and his second wife. > > Joshua STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 30/10/1817 age 75 > Elizabeth STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 15/4/1823 age 76 > The only other STRAFFORD death in Scrooby is a daughter of John by > his second wife, and there are no STRAFFORDS in Scrooby in 1841 > > A Joshua STRAFFORD married Elizabeth WHITE in Wath upon Dearne > 27/12/1773 > > STRAFFORD births in Wath upon Dearne: > 15/10/1777 John STRAFFORD. Father Richard > 30/6/1776 Ann STRAFFORD. Father Richard > 22/10/1780 Sarah STRAFFORD. Father Joshua, mother Elizabeth > > I can find no trace (birth, marriage or death) whatsover of a Richard > STRAFFORD either in Scrooby, Wath upon Dearne or Consiborough > > Are Richard and Joshua STRAFFORD the same person? > > I'm sorry this is so long - but I've been puzzling over it for a long > time! > > Regards, and thanks for any observations you might have > > Margaret > Switzerland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: > 22/08/2007 > 09:05 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret, Go for the licence! I did and it gave me loads of info - much more than I expected. I'm sure I'm telling you how to suck eggs but here goes......... You need to systematically look at all possible church records. Registers Banns registers Church wardens record books Settlement records etc etc Wills How to get them? Do the research yourself at the local / county archive Pay some one to do it for you Go to your nearest LDS centre and order the records there - they have to be viewed there also. To see what records they hold look at the Familysearch site and go to library page - follow the links from there. It will also tell you the address of your nearest LDS familyhistory centre. If I remember the cost of borrowing the film is about £2.50. If you have found info on the Familysearch site send to the County record office for a copy of the entry - sometimes the original contains more info than is shown on the LDS site Check how many churches are in the areas of interest. You may find that some of the records are only available from the county records office. Its easy to miss records if you just look at other holders of records - LDS SOG etc. Look in other places - Pallots for instance. You can also borrow records from the Society of Genealogists. A little costly but you would need to work this through for yourself. You have to be a member. The following figures are those I paid and are about a couple of years out of date. I paid £40 for a years membership, this entitled me to use their library free [£17 per day for non members] - the cost of films, fiche, books etc was free but you have to pay postage to and fro. They insist on recorded postage not just the ordinary stuff so a little pricey. I then bought myself a second hand fiche viewer - not necessary but I was doing a lot! If you do get a film/fiche you can use your local library facility to view it. You can keep the film for one month. Hope this helps Sandra

Hi Joyce, I think that we have spoken before quite a while since but cannot remember the names we were researching then, my name is Anne Wigglesworth nee Pickles, so we have both Shackleton and Wigglesworth and also Wilman names in common. I have done rather a lot of research on the Wigglesworth name and am a member of the Wigglesworth one name group, but my Wigglesworth's do not come from the Keighley area but I have a conection with Jeff Wright in the states he is related to me on both my mothers side and then also we found a Conection on my Pickles Family, but earlier this year Jeff wrote and he had found a Wigglesworth in his tree from Haworth/Keighley which was a Phoebe Pickles who married a Wigglesworth and had a son called Pickles Wigglesworth is that anything to do with your Wigglesworths I hope so as I have done quite a bit of research on the family. But if it isn't let me know who they are as we have a lot of info about the various families. Regards Anne Wigglesworth

Thank your for your interest Chris. There are not a lot of Straffords at all, in fact the only ones recorded in Conisborough, Wath upon Dearne and Scrooby relate to John's family. Your suggestion regarding non-conformist churches is interesting, although I have no evidence elsewhere that the family had any 'leanings' that way. I just find it so strange that Joshua and Elizabeth were living with John in Scrooby, not Richard, and that Joshua and Elizabeth were married in 1773 but no child is recorded to them until 1780, whereas in the same parish 'Richard' has two children in that time period. As you say, 'more research', but I'm not sure quite where to start! REGARDS MARGARET On 22 Aug 2007, at 13:01, Chris 4Genealogy wrote: A few thoughts: 1 Possibly Richard was not baptised 2 Possibly his parents did not attend church in any of those three parishes - there are a lot of other parishes in the triangle outlined by those three places 3 Have you checked non-Conformist churches? 4 You talk about /birth/ records but mostly pre-1837, these are baptism records and a person can be any age when they are baptised. If there are not many STRAFFORDs in that area, it is, of course, quite likely that Richard and Joshua are related - brothers or cousins - and Richard could well be the father of your John. BUT I think you would need some incredible evidence (far more than you have at present) to turn them into the same person. Just my thoughts - of little actual positive help, I am sorry. I guess what it comes down to, is more research. Chris researching R.O.D.G.E.R.S in Wath upon Dearne and H.O.D.G.S.O.N and H.A.Y.G.A.R.T.H in Dent area On 21/08/07, Margaret Elliott <meelliott@btinternet.com> wrote: > I need advice about my STRAFFORD family. Please let me know what > you think. These are the facts I have: > > John STRAFFORD married Ann CROSSLEY in Wath upon Dearne 7/3/1799. > John of the parish of Scrooby, Notts, Ann otp > They had children in Scooby between 1800 and 1810 when Ann > 'disappears'. The children are Mary Ann, Elizah, John, Adelina, > Henery and Josua. The only other STRAFFORD births I have found in > Scrooby are those of John and his second wife. > > Joshua STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 30/10/1817 age 75 > Elizabeth STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 15/4/1823 age 76 > The only other STRAFFORD death in Scrooby is a daughter of John by > his second wife, and there are no STRAFFORDS in Scrooby in 1841 > > A Joshua STRAFFORD married Elizabeth WHITE in Wath upon Dearne > 27/12/1773 > > STRAFFORD births in Wath upon Dearne: > 15/10/1777 John STRAFFORD. Father Richard > 30/6/1776 Ann STRAFFORD. Father Richard > 22/10/1780 Sarah STRAFFORD. Father Joshua, mother Elizabeth > > I can find no trace (birth, marriage or death) whatsover of a Richard > STRAFFORD either in Scrooby, Wath upon Dearne or Consiborough > > Are Richard and Joshua STRAFFORD the same person? > > I'm sorry this is so long - but I've been puzzling over it for a long > time! > > Regards, and thanks for any observations you might have > > Margaret > Switzerland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to thank all of you who sent me information and relevant websites for Banardo's and Canada and I thought you would like to know that I've found the two brothers I was looking for.They both left Liverpool for Canada in different years but kept in touch with each other. Albert joined the cavalry in 1914 and fought overseas for 3 yrs and won medals for bravery. He was a lumberjack, cook and farmer and died in the 1950's.I am still looking into Joseph's history but I know he was living in Claydon, Saskatchewan in 1914. With thanks Ann

Thank you for your advice Richard. Unfortunately, although the parish register confirmed that John Strafford was from Scrooby and Ann Crossley 'of this parish', it did not give the parents' names, and the witnesses were not family members. They were married by license, but I'm not sure if finding that would be any help. I have a nasty feeling this family are going to remain a mystery, as there does not seem to be any further information I can find. Regards Margaret On 22 Aug 2007, at 09:52, richard ellis wrote: Hi Margaret Yes - quite a puzzle! Possibly Richard and Joshua were brothers or cousins? Have you got details of John Stratford & Ann Crossley marriage in 1799, as seemingly Richard would be the father - recorded on IGI or parish registers I don't think the other family information helps. The only other check I can think of is the possible marriage of Ann Stratford c 1800 in the areas - assuming she did marry! ie no early death or spinster...again father's name maybe there. Hope this helps Richard -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Margaret Elliott Sent: 21 August 2007 10:16 To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Opinions needed please I need advice about my STRAFFORD family. Please let me know what you think. These are the facts I have: John STRAFFORD married Ann CROSSLEY in Wath upon Dearne 7/3/1799. John of the parish of Scrooby, Notts, Ann otp They had children in Scooby between 1800 and 1810 when Ann 'disappears'. The children are Mary Ann, Elizah, John, Adelina, Henery and Josua. The only other STRAFFORD births I have found in Scrooby are those of John and his second wife. Joshua STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 30/10/1817 age 75 Elizabeth STRAFFORD dies in Scrooby 15/4/1823 age 76 The only other STRAFFORD death in Scrooby is a daughter of John by his second wife, and there are no STRAFFORDS in Scrooby in 1841 A Joshua STRAFFORD married Elizabeth WHITE in Wath upon Dearne 27/12/1773 STRAFFORD births in Wath upon Dearne: 15/10/1777 John STRAFFORD. Father Richard 30/6/1776 Ann STRAFFORD. Father Richard 22/10/1780 Sarah STRAFFORD. Father Joshua, mother Elizabeth I can find no trace (birth, marriage or death) whatsover of a Richard STRAFFORD either in Scrooby, Wath upon Dearne or Consiborough Are Richard and Joshua STRAFFORD the same person? I'm sorry this is so long - but I've been puzzling over it for a long time! Regards, and thanks for any observations you might have Margaret Switzerland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Thought it as about time I posted my surnames again. Would be pleased to hear from anyone with connections. ABBOTT -------------------richmond & durham BAKE------------------------menwith with darley BATTERSBY --------------sheffield. BUCKLER -----------------bingley BUCKLEY -----------------bingley. BURTON ------------------doncaster & bewerley CUTTING -----------------sheffield. ELY -------------------------menwith with darley & skipton EWBANK------------------hartwith HARLING------------------clapham/newby/gargrave HOLLINGS ---------------haworth & bingley. KIRKBRIGHT ------------bewerley LAYCOCK ----------------cononley LOWCOCK-----------------hartwith MIDGLEY -----------------sutton & glusburn MITCHELL------------------bingley MOORHOUSE ----------menwith with darley MORRELL----------------pannal MYERS--------------------skipton & pateley bridge OSGUTHORPE---------sheffield PHILLIP-------------------halton east SHACKLETON ---------bingley. SMITH --------------------cononley STODDART -------------Bewerely TEMPEST ----------------cononley & keighley THOMPSON -------------richmond & stokesley TODD----------------------leathley/otley WATSON------------------skipton WHITAKER --------------bingley WIGGLESWORTH -----silsden & keighley WILDMAN ----------------bingley WILMAN ------------------haworth best wishes, Joyce