>X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 0 >X-Apparently-To: judith.varley@btinternet.com via 217.146.188.214; Fri, 21 >Sep 2007 15:08:06 +0000 >X-Originating-IP: [193.252.22.158] >Authentication-Results: >mta822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com from=kevinscarth.wanadoo.co.uk; >domainkeys=neutral (no sig) >X-ME-UUID: 20070921150755541.843168800084@mwinf3014.me.freeserve.com >Reply-To: <kevin@kevinscarth.wanadoo.co.uk> >From: "Kevin Scarth" <kevin@kevinscarth.wanadoo.co.uk> >To: "'Judith Varley'" <judith.varley@btinternet.com> >Subject: Yorkshire and West Riding list >Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:09:41 +0100 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 >Thread-Index: Acf8YW8+gYf/0mz5S+qeVvTaKzMnWw== > >Judith > >Could you post a message on the Yorkshire and West Riding list (I am not >subscribed) about the Morley area churches I have compiled. > >You will have seen my post on the Leeds list;- > > >Listers may like to know that I have compiled a list of churches and chapels >in the Morley area past and present. The area includes Morley, Adwalton, >Drighlington, East and West Ardsley, Tingley, Churwell and Gildersome. > >Look at :- http://wakefieldfhs.org.uk/morleyfhg/ then scroll down to :- > >"" Where did your family worship in the Morley area. Visit this link and you >could be surprised ! "" > >If you could perhaps point the listers in the right direction. I am sure >that someone will be interested. You may have to change the wording for your >message > >Hope you are well > >K > >-- >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 15 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi List, There is a Family History Fair at the Leeds Town Hall on Sunday [23rd Sept] 10am -4pm Judith

The Marriage Bonds and Allegations we've read have been on microfilm at the local LDS Church but I would expect the Borthwick Institute at York would be the ideal place to approach especially when yoy do know the date of the marriage. regards Mabel in New Zealand Subject: Re: [WRY] Marriage Licence > Thank you so very much for all this information Mabel. I am > determined to get hold of a copy of this marriage bond and allegation > now as it could answer several questions for me. I have had several > ancestors married by licence, and had not appreciated how much > information could be obtained from them. I guess the archives at > York would be the correct place to contact? > > Kind regards > Margaret

Thank you so very much for all this information Mabel. I am determined to get hold of a copy of this marriage bond and allegation now as it could answer several questions for me. I have had several ancestors married by licence, and had not appreciated how much information could be obtained from them. I guess the archives at York would be the correct place to contact? Kind regards Margaret On 17 Sep 2007, at 23:32, Keith & Mabel Jowsey wrote: Hello Margaret The Marriage Bonds and Allegations - in 2 parts - usually give: The names and ages of the couple and their status - bachelor, spinster, widow/er. Their places of residence. In the case of a minor there may be a separate note attached, giving a parent or guardian's permission for the licence to be applied for. The names, occupations, and place of residence of 2 Bondsmen - one of whom is usually the bridegroom to be. The said Bondsmen :are Bound and firmly Obliged ...... in the Sum of two Hundred Pounds of good and lawful of Great Britain". The money to be forfeit should the proposed marriage be found illegal. The second bondsman could be a relation of the bride, the employer of one of them, or, a friend. Occasionally, one of the "Bondsmen" is the bride. Have to admit I've only seen one instance of this - the lady was marrying a dancing master. How I wish I had taken a copy at the time I saw it!! The date of the application (the one I'm loking at is dated 29th June 1737) - which could be 1 day or a few months before the actual ceremony - and the name of the Church where the ceremony is likely to take place. The Bond is signed (or marked) by both Bondsmen and the Surrogate for the local Ecclesiastical Authority - often the local Vicar. The Allegation is signed (or marked) by the groom and the Surrogate Minister. Regards Mabel in NZ From: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: [WRY] Marriage Licence > I am trying to find whether or not the licence for the marriage of > John STRAFFORD and Ann CROSSLEY on 7 March 1799 in Wath upon Dearne > had any useful information. Can anyone help? > Regards > Margaret > Switzerland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Margaret The Marriage Bonds and Allegations - in 2 parts - usually give: The names and ages of the couple and their status - bachelor, spinster, widow/er. Their places of residence. In the case of a minor there may be a separate note attached, giving a parent or guardian's permission for the licence to be applied for. The names, occupations, and place of residence of 2 Bondsmen - one of whom is usually the bridegroom to be. The said Bondsmen :are Bound and firmly Obliged ...... in the Sum of two Hundred Pounds of good and lawful of Great Britain". The money to be forfeit should the proposed marriage be found illegal. The second bondsman could be a relation of the bride, the employer of one of them, or, a friend. Occasionally, one of the "Bondsmen" is the bride. Have to admit I've only seen one instance of this - the lady was marrying a dancing master. How I wish I had taken a copy at the time I saw it!! The date of the application (the one I'm loking at is dated 29th June 1737) - which could be 1 day or a few months before the actual ceremony - and the name of the Church where the ceremony is likely to take place. The Bond is signed (or marked) by both Bondsmen and the Surrogate for the local Ecclesiastical Authority - often the local Vicar. The Allegation is signed (or marked) by the groom and the Surrogate Minister. Regards Mabel in NZ From: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: [WRY] Marriage Licence >I am trying to find whether or not the licence for the marriage of > John STRAFFORD and Ann CROSSLEY on 7 March 1799 in Wath upon Dearne > had any useful information. Can anyone help? > Regards > Margaret > Switzerland

If anyone has the parish records for Aldborough could they please help me? Richard Fryer, Frier or Friar married Ann Carass or Cariss in Aldborough on 21st Jul 1817. In the 1841 census Richard aged 50 was living alone in the township of Ellenthorp in Aldborough. Can any one help me with details of birth and parents for this couple? Thanks Ann in Dorset

geedee@fsmail.net wrote snip<Ann SCARGILL (1835) Hi On the 1861 census where does Ann show being born? Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Dyson" <geedee@fsmail.net> To: "WEST-RIDING" <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: [WRY] Padget(t) and Scargill - Barnsley. > Hello, List, > > My maternal gt.grandparents were Henry PADGET(T) bn. 1833 and Ann SCARGILL > (1835) who married Barnsley 4th qtr 1853 (9c/160). I have most PADGET > information, but nothing on Ann SCARGILL. Can anyone help ? > Regards, Gordon. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: > 17/09/2007 13:29 > >

Hello, List, My maternal gt.grandparents were Henry PADGET(T) bn. 1833 and Ann SCARGILL (1835) who married Barnsley 4th qtr 1853 (9c/160). I have most PADGET information, but nothing on Ann SCARGILL. Can anyone help ? Regards, Gordon.

I am trying to find whether or not the licence for the marriage of John STRAFFORD and Ann CROSSLEY on 7 March 1799 in Wath upon Dearne had any useful information. Can anyone help? Regards Margaret Switzerland

Can anyone help me with the SHAW family.SARAH METCALFE, Aunty to STAN LAUREL(Laurel & HARDY) married a JOHN SHAW whose family were Rag Merchants in DEWSBURY. They lived in Ulverstone. Lake District after marriage. This would be l890+. I have found my Ferris relations of Halifax. Thank goodness. Jean Sutcliffe

Hi again you need someone who has access to the Parish records for Aldborough and that entry will hopefully give you the fathers names Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Mccallum" <gordon.mccallum2@ntlworld.com> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: [WRY] Fryer/Carris marrage,Aldborough > Thanks for your reply Christine, > I saw this one in IGI but I still have no proof it is the correct Richard > Fryer. > Regards > Ann > > > Could this be him? > Christine > > "BOLTON ON SWALE, in the parish of Catterick, wapentake of Gilling East, > and > liberty of Richmondshire, 1 mile NE. of Catterick, 6 miles ESE. of > Richmond. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1010 - Release Date: > 15/09/2007 19:54 > >

Thanks for your reply Christine, I saw this one in IGI but I still have no proof it is the correct Richard Fryer. Regards Ann Could this be him? Christine "BOLTON ON SWALE, in the parish of Catterick, wapentake of Gilling East, and liberty of Richmondshire, 1 mile NE. of Catterick, 6 miles ESE. of Richmond. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am searching for Henry HINCHLIFFE, born abt 1826, Hepworth according to the 1851 census. Henry married Martha BRADLEY Nov. 19, 1848. I have the marriage certificate. Henry's father is Henry (Farmer) and Martha's father is William (Wool Sorter). Henry is listed as a mechanic. I have Henry and Martha in the 1851 census. Then they emigrated to the US about 1855. I found Martha and the children's passage in 1855 but I have not been able to find Henry's. I am looking for Henry's parents and siblings. Henry would be my gr gr grandfather. Thank you, Barbara

Richard Fryer, Frier or Friar married Ann Carass or Cariss in Aldborough on 21st Jul 1817. In the 1841 census Richard aged 50 was living alone in the township of Ellenthorp in Aldborough. Can any one please help me with details of birth and parents for this couple? Thanks Ann

Hi Kirkheaton Online Parish Clerk as been updated, more Banns have been added and other changes; the Photo Gallery has been removed until the next update. The next changes will be at the end of Nov when the next 10 years of Cemetery records will be added, plus Photo Gallery and banns. www.kirkheaton-ops.co.uk

Thanks to Bev and Carol, I hadn't thought of that and of course there must be barracks around Dover and it's a Port! Fingers crossed and thanks again. Lindi -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolgriff@aol.com Sent: 15 September 2007 16:54 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] HARRY/HENRY CRAVEN C 1901 - where is he . Hi I think Bev may have a point re the army. Looks like Henrys dad was connected to the army- 1881 census- and he was musical, maybe Henry followed in his dads footsteps? Alternatively if he was a travelling musician then he maybe just missed the census taker. Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lindy He could have been in South Africa in the Boer War at the time of the 1901 census. My Gr Grandfather was and won't be on the census. Bev -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lindy Groom Sent: 15 September 2007 11:56 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] HARRY/HENRY CRAVEN C 1901 - where is he . Hi I have a brick wall which is driving me nuts - well one of many really! However this one is HENRY CRAVEN born October 6th 1882 in Tanshelf in Pontefract. In 1891 he is living at the family home with his father George and several siblings, still in Pontefract and his Mother has died. In 1901 I can find no trace of him and the Father George is living alone in Armley, Yorkshire. The next time I can find him is 1905 when he marries Rosa Jane Spendiff in Dover in Kent and is shown as a Musician. However at this point he is under the name of HARRY CRAVEN, although all the other information confirms that it is the same man. I have searched under Harry and Henry in Yorkshire and Kent and also with a CRA*. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Fingers crossed Lindy Groom (Craven) Researching Cravens in Wakefield and surrounding area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 14/09/2007 08:59 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 14/09/2007 08:59

Hi I have a brick wall which is driving me nuts - well one of many really! However this one is HENRY CRAVEN born October 6th 1882 in Tanshelf in Pontefract. In 1891 he is living at the family home with his father George and several siblings, still in Pontefract and his Mother has died. In 1901 I can find no trace of him and the Father George is living alone in Armley, Yorkshire. The next time I can find him is 1905 when he marries Rosa Jane Spendiff in Dover in Kent and is shown as a Musician. However at this point he is under the name of HARRY CRAVEN, although all the other information confirms that it is the same man. I have searched under Harry and Henry in Yorkshire and Kent and also with a CRA*. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Fingers crossed Lindy Groom (Craven) Researching Cravens in Wakefield and surrounding area

Hi I think Bev may have a point re the army. Looks like Henrys dad was connected to the army- 1881 census- and he was musical, maybe Henry followed in his dads footsteps? Alternatively if he was a travelling musician then he maybe just missed the census taker. Carol

----- Original Message ----- From: Adnilekud@aol.com To: janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com ; YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com ; WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Stephen Wilson Hi Lin, many thanks, all still at Kirkgate which is quite near to Bermondsey (Midland Hotel area) where (I found Samuel b 1818c his grandson)= Sarah Fearnley mar 1838 at St Peters Bradford, 2 mins away) and also Joshua, Elizabeth, Mary. I am very grateful, but the history deepens, need to find the rest on 1851! Janet In a message dated 14/09/2007 12:56:52 GMT Daylight Time, janet@janetsfamilies.f2s.com writes: Hi Listers, I have found Stephen Wilson Widower 85 years Wesleyan Minster born Sunderland Durham on 1851 with Son John age 34 Watch Maker EMPLOYING 14 MEN BORN SCARBRO YORKS Stephen Wilson found on 1841 census - image sent off list Lin rest hard to read, HO107/2308 folio 197 page 11 at 47 Kirkgate Bradford I can not find them on 1841 can you help please -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 58936 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? Visit www.yorkshireancestors.com; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkfamilyhistory.org.uk; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1002 - Release Date: 11/09/2007 17:46 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 58936 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!