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    1. [WRY] Nuns Buildings, Horsforth
    2. Gail Ball
    3. Hello Listers, I know you're all full of information so just wondered if anyone knew what the Nun(n)s Buildings, Broadgate Lane, Horsforth were and who would have lived there. I have a number of NUNNS family member there in 1871 census. They were mainly stone masons. I have Googled, but to no avail. Thanks in anticipation, Gail

    10/10/2007 09:37:21
    1. [WRY] SHAW FAMILY
    2. Sue Parker
    3. Hi listers Is anyone else out there tracing the Shaw family from Swinton - descendants of John Shaw (Shay)(born 1734, Swinton, W Riding) and Ann nee Carr (born 1736 in Swinton)? I have not found their marriage - probably around 1857. Their children were Anna, 1758, Martha, 1859, Rhoda, 1762, Joshua 1764, Sarah 1767, & Ann 1769. The chidren were christened at Masborough United Reform Church, Rotherham. Sue

    10/10/2007 12:55:02
    1. [WRY] Dewsbury - All Saints
    2. Margaret Elliott
    3. Can anyone tell me please whether there is any information given in the Parish Record or on the Bishop's Transcript for the death of Ann STRAFFORD on 31/1/1811. I am hoping she is wife of John. Many thanks for any information Regards Margaret

    10/10/2007 12:15:58
    1. Re: [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please?
    2. Alison Hargreaves-Lyons
    3. Hello Gordon, Yes thank you. The phone numbers match. That's a wonderful help so now to start setting out what I've found.about our mutual relatives. Thank you again Gordon, Regards, Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Dyson" <geedee@fsmail.net> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please? > Hello, Alison, > Is this him ? > Tel. 01302-771056 - geoff.gaukrodger@tiscali.co.uk > Regards, Gordon. > > > > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Oct 09 2007, 01:57 PM > From: "Alison Hargreaves-Lyons" > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please? > > I wonder if anone on the list can help me get back via email to Geoff > Gaukrodger > of Auckley, Doncaster. In 1998 he wrote me about his grandmother Annie HEWITT > nee HARGREAVES 1858-1928. At that time I hadn't done the research that I now > have to hand. His Annie and my Hargreaves are all connected as cousins and I > can now answer a number of the questions that he posed in his letter to me. So > can anyone help me get back to him easily via email please? > . I already have his phone number from BT online but think phoning after > almost > ten years is likely to be a bit of a shock and email is gentler. > Thanks. Any help appreciated. > > Alison > > Alison Hargreaves-Lyons in Brisbane, Australia is seeking: > AMBLER, BAILEY, CLAY, CRABTREE, DRAKE,HALEY, HARGREAVES,HEWITT, HOLDEN, > JAGGER, MOLYNUEX, RUDD, TAYLOR, UTTLEY, WILSON in Halifax area, WRY. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1059 - Release Date: 9/10/2007 > 8:44 AM > >

    10/09/2007 10:41:43
    1. [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please?
    2. Alison Hargreaves-Lyons
    3. I wonder if anone on the list can help me get back via email to Geoff Gaukrodger of Auckley, Doncaster. In 1998 he wrote me about his grandmother Annie HEWITT nee HARGREAVES 1858-1928. At that time I hadn't done the research that I now have to hand. His Annie and my Hargreaves are all connected as cousins and I can now answer a number of the questions that he posed in his letter to me. So can anyone help me get back to him easily via email please? . I already have his phone number from BT online but think phoning after almost ten years is likely to be a bit of a shock and email is gentler. Thanks. Any help appreciated. Alison Alison Hargreaves-Lyons in Brisbane, Australia is seeking: AMBLER, BAILEY, CLAY, CRABTREE, DRAKE,HALEY, HARGREAVES,HEWITT, HOLDEN, JAGGER, MOLYNUEX, RUDD, TAYLOR, UTTLEY, WILSON in Halifax area, WRY.

    10/09/2007 04:07:10
    1. [WRY] Baptisms St.Johns.Knaresboro. FIRTH.
    2. Annabelle Sutton
    3. Harriet, daug.of John & Sarah, cordwainer.25th Dec.1813. Charlotte, daug.of Sarah, singlewoman of Scriven.18th June 1846. Ann Elizabeth daug.of William & Ann.Bond End. born 19th Aug.1854.bapt.27th May 1855. Emily.daug.of William & Ann.Bond End.bapt.27th May 1855. Elizabeth daug.of Samuel & Susanna.weaver.22nd March 1833 John son of Samuel & Susanna.weaver.13th Dec.1835 Abraham son of Samuel & Susanna.weaver. 23rd Feb.1839 Martha daug.of Samuel & Susanna.weaver, 24th Dec.1843 Joseph son of Samuel & Hannah. 25th Sept.1845. Note.I have to keep an open mind about the the last entry Joseph is certainly one of ours,BUT, by 1851 Samuel has departed from the family home, with his eldest son, never to return again. happy hunting, Annabelle.

    10/09/2007 12:07:56
    1. Re: [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please?
    2. Gordon Dyson
    3. Hello, Alison, Is this him ? Tel. 01302-771056 - geoff.gaukrodger@tiscali.co.uk Regards, Gordon. ======================================== Message Received: Oct 09 2007, 01:57 PM From: "Alison Hargreaves-Lyons" To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [WRY] Geoff Gaukrodger. Does anyone have his email address please? I wonder if anone on the list can help me get back via email to Geoff Gaukrodger of Auckley, Doncaster. In 1998 he wrote me about his grandmother Annie HEWITT nee HARGREAVES 1858-1928. At that time I hadn't done the research that I now have to hand. His Annie and my Hargreaves are all connected as cousins and I can now answer a number of the questions that he posed in his letter to me. So can anyone help me get back to him easily via email please? . I already have his phone number from BT online but think phoning after almost ten years is likely to be a bit of a shock and email is gentler. Thanks. Any help appreciated. Alison Alison Hargreaves-Lyons in Brisbane, Australia is seeking: AMBLER, BAILEY, CLAY, CRABTREE, DRAKE,HALEY, HARGREAVES,HEWITT, HOLDEN, JAGGER, MOLYNUEX, RUDD, TAYLOR, UTTLEY, WILSON in Halifax area, WRY. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/09/2007 10:07:04
    1. [WRY] Baptisms St.Johns . Knaresboro. FIRTH.
    2. Annabelle Sutton
    3. These were the Issue of John Firth the woolcomber and Ellen Metcalf. who got married in 1783. They certainly kept busy.!!! Baptisms Joshua. 8th Aug. 1784. James. 30th July 1786 John 13th May 1788 William 4th April 1790 Thomas. 8th July 1792 Robert. 23rd April 1794 Ellen. 30th Sept.1796 Jane. 31st Aug.1798 Edward. 17th July 1801 happy hunting, Annabelle.

    10/09/2007 10:03:23
    1. [WRY] Marriages St.Johns . Knaresboro. FIRTH.
    2. Annabelle Sutton
    3. Anyone interested in any of these may find extra information (witnesses.) by looking at the original records.These records do not appear to be on the I.G.I. John Firth, woolcomber, to Ellen Metcalfe. Oct.6th 1783. witnesses.Hannah Firth & (??) Martha Hutton. James Firth to Francis Banks.July 18th 1813. Samuel Firth to Susanna Burn March 27th 1825. witnesses.John Firth & Mary Tipley. John Firth to Mary Tipley.Aug.8th 1825. Joseph Firth, farmer of Otley,son of John, farmer. to Alice Dalby,daughter of John, wheelwright.July 25th 1845. Thomas Firth, plasterer of Harrogate,son of William a plasterer to Eliza Gray daughter of James a cloth manufaturer.May 1st 1853. Elizabeth Firth daughter of Samuel a weaver to Thomas Mattock a painter, son of William a cornmiller.Aug.18th 1855. Hannah Maria Firth daughter of Joshua a woolcomber to James Inman a currier, son of George a publican.Sept.15th 1861. happy hunting, Annabelle.

    10/09/2007 09:43:56
    1. [WRY] Willson Pice Methodist New Connexion or Primitive Methodist Chapel - FIRTH
    2. DeeN
    3. Annabelle said <Hello Dee, I cannot help with your request but hope that you will put what you find about your FIRTH family on the list. I am a great believer in feeding info into to the Archives. 1.Because it can help others who come along at a later date. 2.Because it can help relatives get in touch with you.That is of course assuming you keep your same e-mail address. regards from, Annabelle.> Your point is very valid, I held back as I did not want to put any details of a line that may not be mine and then have nothing to add if I was contacted but in reverse someone else may be researching this line that could help validate. These are the FIRTH children I found on the IGI, all names and parents names match with my research BUT just a couple of the children have incorrect year of birth and not by an odd year :0( I need to see the film to check if there is an error in transcription also an occupation for the father would help . Parents David FIRTH and Mary REDWICK (I did not have Mary's Surname but Mary does agree with census information) Sarah FIRTH Born 13 Oct 1820 Bap 27 Feb 1836 James FIRTH Born 3 Sep 1822 Bap 27 Feb 1836 (I have YOB as 1832/3 worked out from age at death on MI) Mary Ann FIRTH Born 12 May 1827 Bap 27 Feb 1836 John FIRTH Born 2 Jun 1830 Bap 27 Feb 1836 Charles FIRTH Born 4 Sep 1834 Bap 27 Feb 1836 (I have YOB as 1824/5) Kind regards Dee ************* Original posting************** Hi Listers I have just found some baptisms on the IGI for the above chapel and I am fairly sure they belong to a line I am researching. I note that there is a film of the baptism records and do intent to look at it at my local LDS Family History Centre but wondered if anyone tell me anything about this chapel. Kind regards Dee

    10/09/2007 08:25:28
    1. Re: [WRY] Willson Pice Methodist New Connexion or Primitive MethodistChapel - FIRTH
    2. Annabelle Sutton
    3. Hello Dee, I cannot help with your request but hope that you will put what you find about your FIRTH family on the list. I am a great believer in feeding info into to the Archives. 1.Because it can help others who come along at a later date. 2.Because it can help relatives get in touch with you.That is of course assuming you keep your same e-mail address. regards from, Annabelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DeeN" <dee@deenightingale.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: [WRY] Willson Pice Methodist New Connexion or Primitive MethodistChapel - FIRTH > Hi Listers > > I have just found some baptisms on the IGI for the above chapel and I am > fairly sure they belong to a line I am researching. I note that there is > a > film of the baptism records and do intent to look at it at my local LDS > Family History Centre but wondered if anyone tell me anything about this > chapel. > > > Kind regards > > Dee > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/09/2007 07:20:01
    1. [WRY] Willson Pice Methodist New Connexion or Primitive Methodist Chapel - FIRTH
    2. DeeN
    3. Hi Listers I have just found some baptisms on the IGI for the above chapel and I am fairly sure they belong to a line I am researching. I note that there is a film of the baptism records and do intent to look at it at my local LDS Family History Centre but wondered if anyone tell me anything about this chapel. Kind regards Dee

    10/08/2007 04:06:05
    1. [WRY] MACE BEARER
    2. Christopher Marchbanks
    3. Hi all I would like to know if there is a list of Mace bearers that was at Dewsbury Town Hall or if any one knows of a MARCHBANKS that was there I have no more info as to the dates just fingers crossed Thank you all Chris

    10/08/2007 12:34:14
    1. Re: [WRY] help in reading 1851 census place
    2. Stocklands Farm
    3. I have a atlas and gazetteer of the UK and came across Norby in North Yorkshire adjoining the north of Thirsk and Norbury Moor which is now a suburb of Greater Manchester and all that far from Wigan. Good luck!. Eve Mazery edulink@iafrica.com "A wonderful blend of old-world charm and modern luxury" ----- Original Message ----- From: <MaggieMole@aol.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] help in reading 1851 census place > > Hi Carol, > >>>Can anyone with access help me read this Yorkshire place name > transcribed > as > Nobbary. 1851 Wigan lancs census. >>>Its meant to say Mary Battersby. All other census returns have her born > in > > Wigan but Im thinking this could be a clue. Her maiden name was Horrocks > and > 2 > of my Wigan Horrocks declare birth place to be Yorkshire in 1 census > only. > > Ann Horrocks circa 1823 says Leeds and William circa 1821 says N/K > Yorkshire. >>>Its a mystery. > > Looking at the image, I'd definitely read it as Norbary: there is a > squiggle > above the r as if the writer changed his mind, and it can look a bit > like > another b. Which would lead, as someone else suggested, to Norbury, > Halifax. > > Hope this helps > Maggie > > > > > Except there doesn't seem to be a Norbury in Halifax: I was thinking of > Norland, and it's certainly not that. Lord knows where it was meant to be! > Sorry to have raised false hopes. > Maggie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/08/2007 11:28:19
    1. Re: [WRY] help in reading 1851 census place
    2. Andy Micklethwaite
    3. At 15:16 08/10/2007, Maggie wrote: >Except there doesn't seem to be a Norbury in Halifax: I was thinking of >Norland, and it's certainly not that. Lord knows where it was meant to be! You're right - I'm thinking Norland too - so where the heck is Norbury - it's in my memory from somewhere (goes off to look at map) oh bother, it's Stockport! I found Norby and Norber in YKS whilst looking. >Sorry to have raised false hopes. Ditto! Sorry! Andy.

    10/08/2007 10:35:41
    1. Re: [WRY] UDS file
    2. Steve Frost
    3. Thanks to everyone who offered to convert the file for me, and thats to Andy for doing the conversion. Now i've got this lump of lead and the wife wants a new gold ring for christmas, can anyone convert it for me :) Steve DeeN wrote: > Hi Steve > > .uds is a Generations file, I can read it and convert it to a GEDCOM for > you. > > HTH > > Dee > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    10/08/2007 08:03:41
    1. [WRY] Help re Norbury etc place name 1851 census- THANKS
    2. Hi all Thanks for the magnificent response to my plea re the place name for Yorkshire Horrocks in Wigan. Certainly lots to think about- and look at, Horbury near Wakefield looks good on genuki- lots of mill workers in the parish record transcripts- no Horrocks though and the transcripts stop a couple of years before Marys birth. Also all the Norbury deviations will keep me busy. Thanks again- everyone has come up trumps! carol

    10/08/2007 07:09:16
    1. Re: [WRY] help in reading 1851 census place
    2. Hello There is a Norbury near Eccleshall in Staffordshire. It was at one time a busy junction on the canal system. Dave

    10/08/2007 05:45:03
    1. [WRY] Thank you Chris. + The poor law.
    2. Annabelle Sutton
    3. Good morning, and thank you Chris for providing me with the details of my Samuel FIRTH christening,(b.29th Jan 1804.) also John FIRTH his brother (b.7th Dec.1800.) My 2 boys parents were, at that time, of Birkenhead. Like most things in family research, it did however leave me pondering if the other children, born in different parishes,were/are of the same family. 1.Betty.... b.21st Jan.1798 Burley 2.Joseph....b.2nd Nov.1806.Little Gormersal 3.Margaret.b.25th Sept.1808.Little Gormersal 4.Elias.b.4th Aug.1811 Little Gormersal were,/are of the same family. The parents of all of these children are John and Sarah. However, it set me thinking about the Old Poor Law, of which I am, alas, now a bit rusty.Having now Googled, I have found a web. page you may like to read. http://www.historyhome.co.uk/peel/poorlaw/plaa.htm I know at one time most people took their children back to their parish of origin to be christened, and if they did not belong to the parish where the christening was done, it was noted in the records.One of my ancestors was christened In one parish, and the parish he moved to, also recorded the fact in their christening records. Mainly I think, because he was renting land and if he fell on hard times before his allotted time of becoming of their parish, they would not be responsible for poor relief for him or his children.He did eventually settle there. Unfortunately however, I think in some instances it was also mentioned to differentiate one branch with the same named parents, from another.Having said that, all is not lost, I shall tuck them away as being possible.Ah....the pitfalls of research.!! All I am sure of is that Samuel and John are definitely mine. I hope I have not bored you, and would be quite pleased if someone more knowledgeable can give me their views.I base my findings on what I know of Devon, where we had mainly "ag.labourers",some of mine who ended up on poor relief, and, in my lovely grandma's case, the dreaded workhouse. However, things may have worked slightly different in Yorkshire, and I am now dealing, I believe, with "weavers". regards from, Annabelle.

    10/08/2007 05:02:53
    1. Re: [WRY] help in reading 1851 census place
    2. Hi Carol, >>Can anyone with access help me read this Yorkshire place name transcribed as Nobbary. 1851 Wigan lancs census. >>Its meant to say Mary Battersby. All other census returns have her born in Wigan but Im thinking this could be a clue. Her maiden name was Horrocks and 2 of my Wigan Horrocks declare birth place to be Yorkshire in 1 census only. Ann Horrocks circa 1823 says Leeds and William circa 1821 says N/K Yorkshire. >>Its a mystery. Looking at the image, I'd definitely read it as Norbary: there is a squiggle above the r as if the writer changed his mind, and it can look a bit like another b. Which would lead, as someone else suggested, to Norbury, Halifax. Hope this helps Maggie Except there doesn't seem to be a Norbury in Halifax: I was thinking of Norland, and it's certainly not that. Lord knows where it was meant to be! Sorry to have raised false hopes. Maggie

    10/08/2007 04:16:09