Richard, could this be him, listed as widowed in the 1881 census. This is the only one near the age stated Dwelling: New St 16 Ct 5 Census Place: Barnsley, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342111 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4603 Folio 104 Page 84 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George ELEY M 30 M Barnsley, York, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Maria ELEY M 28 F Barnsley, York, England Rel: Wife Abraham ELEY 10 M Barnsley, York, England Rel: Son Loais ELEY 8 F Barnsley, York, England Rel: Dau Mary A. ELEY 4 F Barnsley, York, England Rel: Dau Mirian ELEY 1 F Barnsley, York, England Rel: Dau Joseph SCALES W 52 M Dodworth, York, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Coal Miner If he was still living in Barnsley at the time of his death the Cemetery could be the main Barnsley Council Cemetery which is in the care of the Environmental Health (Bereavement Services) based at Barnsley Crematorium, Doncaster Road, Barnsley, South Yorkshire. S71 5EH. You would have to contact them to see if they have a record of a burial. Josie -------------------------------------- Subject: [WRY] What Cemetery???? Hi List I have my Ggrandfather Joseph SCALES born 20 Mar 1828 in the Barnsley area and he died 17 April 1887-- Could SKS find which cemetery he is buried -----my Ggrandmother was Ann Clarey SCALES---I have found her coming here to the US in Oct 1874---with my Grandparents-George and Mary Scales their 2 kids and a son of hers--Walter Scales---why my Ggf is not with the group has been a bit of a mystery--could they have divorced or just drifted away from each other My Ggm returned to Barnsley --when is the question but I have been told she was there for his funeral and later remarries a Thomas ROSE on 22 Nov 1890---she died June 1912---could she be buried with Joseph or Thomas--that's another big question Any help on the cemeteries would be greatly appreciated---hope to hear from someone My Regards Richard OUTGOING MAIL PROTECTED BY AVG SECURITY SYSTEMS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: 09/11/2007 19:29

Andy, Thank you very much indeed for your info. Unfortunately, though, on entering the Gazette link you quoted, I can only get the issue for a date in September 1943. What, if anything, am I doing wrong? Many thanks, John

Hi John Here is the link to the entry in the London Gazette http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=36180&geotype=London&gpn=4220&type=ArchivedSupplementPage&all=6463023 Regards Andy > Hi > Name Larner, Eugene Noel > Rank: Lance Corporal > He was awarded Military Medal in 1943 > Go to > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7643608&queryType=1&resultcount=1 > > where you can download a document > Good luck > Christine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ainleyjha45@aol.com> > To: <WEST-Riding-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: [WRY] Eugene Noel Larner > > >> Dear All, >> >> Could anyone point me in the right direction, please, to find details of >> a >> Military Medal awarded to the above named, who was born on 04/08/1919. >> >> Very many thanks, >> >> John Ainley >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: >> 09/11/2007 09:26 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lest We Forget http://www.leedspals.net

Hi John Can't find the Military Medal award in the LG but here is the notification of his promotion to 2nd Lt. The undermentioned cadets to be 2nd Lts., i6th Aug. .1945: 6463023 -Eugene Noel LARNER, M.M. (352597). Gazette Issue 37279 published on the 21 September 1945. Page 4 of 8 Will keep looking for the M.M. Regards Andy > Hi > Name Larner, Eugene Noel > Rank: Lance Corporal > He was awarded Military Medal in 1943 > Go to > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7643608&queryType=1&resultcount=1 > > where you can download a document > Good luck > Christine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ainleyjha45@aol.com> > To: <WEST-Riding-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: [WRY] Eugene Noel Larner > > >> Dear All, >> >> Could anyone point me in the right direction, please, to find details of >> a >> Military Medal awarded to the above named, who was born on 04/08/1919. >> >> Very many thanks, >> >> John Ainley >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: >> 09/11/2007 09:26 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lest We Forget http://www.leedspals.net

Hi Name Larner, Eugene Noel Rank: Lance Corporal He was awarded Military Medal in 1943 Go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7643608&queryType=1&resultcount=1 where you can download a document Good luck Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ainleyjha45@aol.com> To: <WEST-Riding-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Eugene Noel Larner > Dear All, > > Could anyone point me in the right direction, please, to find details of a > Military Medal awarded to the above named, who was born on 04/08/1919. > > Very many thanks, > > John Ainley > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: > 09/11/2007 09:26 > >

Hi everyone I'm looking for orphanage records for the Huddersfield area open in 1918/19. I am looking for LEWIS children, Benjamin aged 6 and his sister Gertrude aged about 8. Their parents were Thomas who died in Huddersfield c1914 and Edith (nee Milnes) who died c1918. Benjamin's daughter thinks Gertrude went to live in Nottingham area for a while then returned to live in Huddersfield. Benjamin seems to have remained in Huddersfield where he married. He died in 1947. Gertrude married quite late in life but no record of her marriage has been found yet. The only place I can think of where they may have been taken is St Luke's. Does anyone know where to look for records of orphans please? Thanks Jean Belfitt

Dear All, Could anyone point me in the right direction, please, to find details of a Military Medal awarded to the above named, who was born on 04/08/1919. Very many thanks, John Ainley

Hi Eileen Interested to see your query about Reuben Bintcliffe as he is in my tree. I don't know if you want further information about the Bintcliffe family, if so please contact me off list. Anne -- Nick Hopton, Caversham, Reading, England.

Richard I have not been able to find a death but when i looked on census info all the names you metioned are there but not in the family groups how old was walter when he came to the US Bev -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of richard scales Sent: 08 November 2007 21:07 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] What Cemetery???? Hi List I have my Ggrandfather Joseph SCALES born 20 Mar 1828 in the Barnsley area and he died 17 April 1887-- Could SKS find which cemetery he is buried -----my Ggrandmother was Ann Clarey SCALES---I have found her coming here to the US in Oct 1874---with my Grandparents-George and Mary Scales their 2 kids and a son of hers--Walter Scales---why my Ggf is not with the group has been a bit of a mystery--could they have divorced or just drifted away from each other My Ggm returned to Barnsley --when is the question but I have been told she was there for his funeral and later remarries a Thomas ROSE on 22 Nov 1890---she died June 1912---could she be buried with Joseph or Thomas--that's another big question Any help on the cemeteries would be greatly appreciated---hope to hear from someone My Regards Richard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.25/1118 - Release Date: 08/11/2007 09:29 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 08/11/2007 17:55

Hi Eileen there is this one 1881, Forest Hill End, Stainland Reuben BUICLIFFE Head Mar 26 Plasterer b Stainland Zillan BUICLIFFE wife Mar 24 b Rishworth Hx Laura BUICLIFFE daur 2 Stainland Sarah H BUICLIFFE daur 1 b Stainland hope this helps Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <dublinswift@yahoo.com> To: "Westriding" <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: [WRY] BINTCLIFFE, Reuben Help needed > Hello everyone, > > on free bmd Marriage June 1880 - My ancestor is Zillah/Zillen Wadsworth > born March 1857 - age 14 on the 1871 Census, trying to find a spouse for > her. But can not find either Reuben Bintcliffe or Martin Ward married to a > Zillah/Zilleh on the 1881 Census, can any one help? > > FREEBMD > Marriages Jun 1880 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bintcliffe Reuben Halifax 9a 745 > Wadsworth Zilleh Halifax 9a 745 > Ward Martin Halifax 9a 745 > ____________________________________________________ > 1881 Census shows this couple married > Walter, Fleming Halifax 9a 745 > Hesselden, Sarah Halifax 9a 745 > > Regards > Eileen > Stamford, Connecticut > USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

dublinswift@yahoo.com wrote snip<Zillah/Zillen Wadsworth born March 1857 snip<trying to find a spouse for her. Hi I think this is her in 1881 I just did Zillah Born Rishworth Christine 1881 England Census about Zillah Buicliffe Name:Zillah Buicliffe Age:24 Estimated birth year:abt 1857 Relation:Wife Spouse's name:Reubin Gender:Female Where born:Rishworth Hx Civil parish:Stainland Cum Old Lindley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Street address:Forest Hill End Condition as to marriage:Married Registration district:Halifax Sub-registration district:Elland ED, institution, or vessel:17 Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAge Laura Buicliffe2 Reubin Buicliffe26 Sarah H. Buicliffe1 Zillah Buicliffe24 so this would be the marriage > Bintcliffe Reuben Halifax 9a 745 > Wadsworth Zilleh Halifax 9a 745

Hello Eileen, Is this her in 1881 at Forest Hill End, Stainland-cum-Old Lindley, RG11; Piece: 4412; Folio: 95A; Page: 34 Reubin Buicliffe aged 26, plasterer born Stainland Zillah Buicliffe wife aged 24 born Rishworth Halifax Laura Buicliffe dtr aged 2 born Stainland Sarah H. Buicliffe dtr aged 1 born Stainland I found her by searching for a female born 1855-1859 under Zil* with no surname, born Yorkshire. With an uncommon name like Zillah it is always worthwhile playing with different searches. Regards Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Eileen To: Westriding Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: [WRY] BINTCLIFFE, Reuben Help needed

Hi List I have my Ggrandfather Joseph SCALES born 20 Mar 1828 in the Barnsley area and he died 17 April 1887-- Could SKS find which cemetery he is buried -----my Ggrandmother was Ann Clarey SCALES---I have found her coming here to the US in Oct 1874---with my Grandparents-George and Mary Scales their 2 kids and a son of hers--Walter Scales---why my Ggf is not with the group has been a bit of a mystery--could they have divorced or just drifted away from each other My Ggm returned to Barnsley --when is the question but I have been told she was there for his funeral and later remarries a Thomas ROSE on 22 Nov 1890---she died June 1912---could she be buried with Joseph or Thomas--that's another big question Any help on the cemeteries would be greatly appreciated---hope to hear from someone My Regards Richard

Hello Linda, Yes, this is my Zillah, she is the correct age and she was born in Rishworth, I can't thank you enough for your help, I never thought to play with the surname I assumed it was correct since the FreeBMD image for Reuben Bintcliffe was transcribed correctly. thanks again. Eileen ----- Original Message ---- From: Linda <linda.briggs1@btinternet.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 5:15:49 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] BINTCLIFFE, Reuben Help needed Hello Eileen, Is this her in 1881 at Forest Hill End, Stainland-cum-Old Lindley, RG11; Piece: 4412; Folio: 95A; Page: 34 Reubin Buicliffe aged 26, plasterer born Stainland Zillah Buicliffe wife aged 24 born Rishworth Halifax Laura Buicliffe dtr aged 2 born Stainland Sarah H. Buicliffe dtr aged 1 born Stainland I found her by searching for a female born 1855-1859 under Zil* with no surname, born Yorkshire. With an uncommon name like Zillah it is always worthwhile playing with different searches. Regards Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Eileen To: Westriding Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: [WRY] BINTCLIFFE, Reuben Help needed ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello everyone, on free bmd Marriage June 1880 - My ancestor is Zillah/Zillen Wadsworth born March 1857 - age 14 on the 1871 Census, trying to find a spouse for her. But can not find either Reuben Bintcliffe or Martin Ward married to a Zillah/Zilleh on the 1881 Census, can any one help? FREEBMD Marriages Jun 1880 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bintcliffe Reuben Halifax 9a 745 Wadsworth Zilleh Halifax 9a 745 Ward Martin Halifax 9a 745 ____________________________________________________ 1881 Census shows this couple married Walter, Fleming Halifax 9a 745 Hesselden, Sarah Halifax 9a 745 Regards Eileen Stamford, Connecticut USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

John There is a Burial of a Alfred Tillotson in 1927 at Beckett St Cemetety burial no 72823 I'll be in Leeds Library on Fri would you like me to check this entry, Judith At 13:59 07/11/2007, you wrote: >Greetings > >I'm seeking the reference number for the death certificates of Alfred >TILLOTSON and for Eliza his wife, so I can order them. > >They were my grandparents. > >Alfred was born 3 April 1874 at 7, Riding Row, Leeds > >Eliza was born 18 November 1878 at 11, Stanhope Square, Leeds > >Alfred married Eliza (was HAWKINS) at St. Aidan's, Leeds on 18 May 1903. >Both their addresses were 6, Roseville Road, Bayswater Road. > >Their first son Ernest was born on 18 March 1904 at 6, Roseville Road, >Potter Newton UD > >Ernest was married at Guiseley on 24 Dec 1936 - his father is listed as >Alfred TILLOTSON Soldier (Retired). Ernest's address is 'Leeds'. > >So I assume Alfred was alive on 24 Dec 1936. > >I was told that both he and his wife had died before I was born (13 February >1946) > >It could be that Eliza died abroad on a visit - I have failed to find her >nationally or in the GRO Consular Death Indices - where else could I look >on-line or by visiting somewhere? > >I have checked for Alfred and for Eliza in the national death-certificate >indices between Q4 1936 and Q2 1946 - and can find no reference to an Alfred >or an Eliza TILLOTSON of the correct age. > >Where should I look next? I can get to Leeds. > >With many thanks for any clues you can give me > >John Tillotson > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, According to the 1927 Directory of Leeds a Mrs Eliza Tillotson was living at 23 Roseville Rd looks like Alfred had died by then, Judith At 13:59 07/11/2007, you wrote: >Greetings > >I'm seeking the reference number for the death certificates of Alfred >TILLOTSON and for Eliza his wife, so I can order them. > >They were my grandparents. > >Alfred was born 3 April 1874 at 7, Riding Row, Leeds > >Eliza was born 18 November 1878 at 11, Stanhope Square, Leeds > >Alfred married Eliza (was HAWKINS) at St. Aidan's, Leeds on 18 May 1903. >Both their addresses were 6, Roseville Road, Bayswater Road. > >Their first son Ernest was born on 18 March 1904 at 6, Roseville Road, >Potter Newton UD > >Ernest was married at Guiseley on 24 Dec 1936 - his father is listed as >Alfred TILLOTSON Soldier (Retired). Ernest's address is 'Leeds'. > >So I assume Alfred was alive on 24 Dec 1936. > >I was told that both he and his wife had died before I was born (13 February >1946) > >It could be that Eliza died abroad on a visit - I have failed to find her >nationally or in the GRO Consular Death Indices - where else could I look >on-line or by visiting somewhere? > >I have checked for Alfred and for Eliza in the national death-certificate >indices between Q4 1936 and Q2 1946 - and can find no reference to an Alfred >or an Eliza TILLOTSON of the correct age. > >Where should I look next? I can get to Leeds. > >With many thanks for any clues you can give me > >John Tillotson > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Assuming Alfred had died, it is possible that Eliza remarried and may be indexed under another surname. I spent months looking for the death of my husband's great grandmother. I eventually located her after searching the marriage registers for the first couple of years after her husband had died and Bingo! She remarried within two years. I eventually found her death in 1966 under the surname of her second marriage. Alternatively, have you tried looking for them with variant spellings of their surname? Tracy -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Tillotson Sent: 07 November 2007 13:59 To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Seeking death of Alfred TILLOTSON born Leeds 03 April 1874 -and of his wife Greetings I'm seeking the reference number for the death certificates of Alfred TILLOTSON and for Eliza his wife, so I can order them. They were my grandparents. Alfred was born 3 April 1874 at 7, Riding Row, Leeds Eliza was born 18 November 1878 at 11, Stanhope Square, Leeds Alfred married Eliza (was HAWKINS) at St. Aidan's, Leeds on 18 May 1903. Both their addresses were 6, Roseville Road, Bayswater Road. Their first son Ernest was born on 18 March 1904 at 6, Roseville Road, Potter Newton UD Ernest was married at Guiseley on 24 Dec 1936 - his father is listed as Alfred TILLOTSON Soldier (Retired). Ernest's address is 'Leeds'. So I assume Alfred was alive on 24 Dec 1936. I was told that both he and his wife had died before I was born (13 February 1946) It could be that Eliza died abroad on a visit - I have failed to find her nationally or in the GRO Consular Death Indices - where else could I look on-line or by visiting somewhere? I have checked for Alfred and for Eliza in the national death-certificate indices between Q4 1936 and Q2 1946 - and can find no reference to an Alfred or an Eliza TILLOTSON of the correct age. Where should I look next? I can get to Leeds. With many thanks for any clues you can give me John Tillotson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, Is there a secondary reason for assuming Alfred was alive when his son Ernest married? The fact he is not recorded as deceased on his son's marriage certificate does not necessarily mean he was alive. I have several certificates where father's details are recorded without any "deceased" annotation, yet there were dead and buried. You may have to widen your search back to when you last knew he was alive. Regards Linda www.todmordenandwalsden.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: John Tillotson To: WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: [WRY] Seeking death of Alfred TILLOTSON born Leeds 03 April 1874 -and of his wife

Greetings I'm seeking the reference number for the death certificates of Alfred TILLOTSON and for Eliza his wife, so I can order them. They were my grandparents. Alfred was born 3 April 1874 at 7, Riding Row, Leeds Eliza was born 18 November 1878 at 11, Stanhope Square, Leeds Alfred married Eliza (was HAWKINS) at St. Aidan's, Leeds on 18 May 1903. Both their addresses were 6, Roseville Road, Bayswater Road. Their first son Ernest was born on 18 March 1904 at 6, Roseville Road, Potter Newton UD Ernest was married at Guiseley on 24 Dec 1936 - his father is listed as Alfred TILLOTSON Soldier (Retired). Ernest's address is 'Leeds'. So I assume Alfred was alive on 24 Dec 1936. I was told that both he and his wife had died before I was born (13 February 1946) It could be that Eliza died abroad on a visit - I have failed to find her nationally or in the GRO Consular Death Indices - where else could I look on-line or by visiting somewhere? I have checked for Alfred and for Eliza in the national death-certificate indices between Q4 1936 and Q2 1946 - and can find no reference to an Alfred or an Eliza TILLOTSON of the correct age. Where should I look next? I can get to Leeds. With many thanks for any clues you can give me John Tillotson