Hi....a couple to consider found on FreeBMD: September Qtr. 1848 JOHN HALL & MARY ANN WALLER Registered at Sheffield 22 479 December Qtr. 1848 JOHN HALL & MARY ANN PLATTS Registered at Rotherham 22 574 mary lou John was born about 1826, and on different censuses variously gave his birthplace as: Grenoside; Hill Top; Ecclesfield; Bradfield (all Sheffield area) On the 1851 and subsequent censuses however he was living in Rawmarsh, and was listed as married to Mary Ann (maiden name unknown). Mary Ann was born in Wentworth. Or possibly Thorpe! (depending on which census you look at). On the 1851 census she is listed as 18 years of age. (presumed year of birth 1833). I have been unable to locate the marriage of John and Mary Ann via the usual trawling on Ancestry. I have even scoured the 1841 census for Wentworth looking for a Mary or Mary Ann that would fit the criteria, but no luck. Any ideas before I splash out money on a birth certificate for one of his children? (I'm notoriously tight-fisted -- must be my Yorkshire heritage) All replies gratefully received, David Delta BC Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

>From Genuki Yorkshire "QUARMBY, in the parish of Huddersfield, Agbrigg-division of Agbrigg and Morley, liberty of Wakefield, 2 miles W. of Huddersfield, 8 from Halifax. Pop. including Lindley, 2,040, which being united, form a township." (There is further information for Quarmby). Jean I will check on a map to find out exactly where Quarmby cum Lindley is located in Yorkshire. If it is far away from Leeds I think it higly unlikely that he is the same Jabez Wilkinson that married Mary Atha in St. Peters, Leeds because of both the religion factor and the location factor. If he does turn out to be the same Jabez it will be great to have the names of his siblings. Thanks so much for your help, DeAnne On 11/27/07, mlou1173@aol.com <mlou1173@aol.com> wrote: > > Does anyone have information on a Jabez Wilkinson? He married a Mary > in England, and went to St. Petersburg, Russia where Mary died. He > then married Sarah Parker who was from Sheffield on 10 December 1832 > in St. Petersburg. > > Hi.....This looks like his first marriage from the IGI: > > JABEZ WILKINSON & MARY ATHA > October 23, 1826 > St. Peters, Leeds, Yorkshire > > And this *could* be his birth: > > JABEZ WILKINSON > November 9, 1802 > Salendine Nook Meeting House - Particular Baptist > Quarmby cum Lindley, Yorkshire > Parents: John & Betty Wilkinson > > John & Betty also registered the following children at the same place: > > Thomas Wilkinson - 1790 > Hannah Wilkinson - 1794 > John Wilkinson - 1796 > Nanny Wilkinson - 1805 > > Best wishes.......mary lou ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually this may be a bit tricky. I am trying to find the marriage of John HALL. John was born about 1826, and on different censuses variously gave his birthplace as: Grenoside; Hill Top; Ecclesfield; Bradfield (all Sheffield area) On the 1851 and subsequent censuses however he was living in Rawmarsh, and was listed as married to Mary Ann (maiden name unknown). Mary Ann was born in Wentworth. Or possibly Thorpe! (depending on which census you look at). On the 1851 census she is listed as 18 years of age. (presumed year of birth 1833). I have been unable to locate the marriage of John and Mary Ann via the usual trawling on Ancestry. I have even scoured the 1841 census for Wentworth looking for a Mary or Mary Ann that would fit the criteria, but no luck. Any ideas before I splash out money on a birth certificate for one of his children? (I'm notoriously tight-fisted -- must be my Yorkshire heritage) All replies gratefully received, David Delta BC Canada

Thank you, Mary Lou. I have thought the marriage has high possiblity. I have some questions about the birth. None of the people I'm looking for were Baptist -- at least Mary Atha, Sarah Parker, and James Thornton were't. And, when Jabez died he was buried in Church of England records. I will check on a map to find out exactly where Quarmby cum Lindley is located in Yorkshire. If it is far away from Leeds I think it higly unlikely that he is the same Jabez Wilkinson that married Mary Atha in St. Peters, Leeds because of both the religion factor and the location factor. If he does turn out to be the same Jabez it will be great to have the names of his siblings. Thanks so much for your help, DeAnne On 11/27/07, mlou1173@aol.com <mlou1173@aol.com> wrote: > > Does anyone have information on a Jabez Wilkinson? He married a Mary > in England, and went to St. Petersburg, Russia where Mary died. He > then married Sarah Parker who was from Sheffield on 10 December 1832 > in St. Petersburg. > > Hi.....This looks like his first marriage from the IGI: > > JABEZ WILKINSON & MARY ATHA > October 23, 1826 > St. Peters, Leeds, Yorkshire > > And this *could* be his birth: > > JABEZ WILKINSON > November 9, 1802 > Salendine Nook Meeting House - Particular Baptist > Quarmby cum Lindley, Yorkshire > Parents: John & Betty Wilkinson > > John & Betty also registered the following children at the same place: > > Thomas Wilkinson - 1790 > Hannah Wilkinson - 1794 > John Wilkinson - 1796 > Nanny Wilkinson - 1805 > > Best wishes.......mary lou

Thank you, Terry, I was unaware of the FEEFHS. I will check that out. My family that went to St. Petersburg kept their Brit. citizenship but they did travel lots. In her letters when she was an old lady Sarah talks about going to southern Germany during the cold winters. They would also possibly be listed there because Sarah's second husband (James Thronton) started a business after they were married called the Thornton Woolen Mill. I will check that site out. And you are right, I do not know how to read Russian. I had completely forgotten about Anna and the King of Siam. Thanks again, DeAnne On 11/28/07, TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY <terrysundbya0felan3@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > you may find them in the St Petersberg records. everyone inthe then Russian capital was registered. Dont forget at that time ordinary Russians needed an internal passport to travel, and foriegners were equaly controlled if not so obviously. A source that might be useful is FEEFHS; Federation of Eastern European Family History Societies at http://feefhs.org whilst mainly for those who have families in Eastern Europe they may well have folk who can perhaps help you as I doudt you read Russian or know where to start > AS TO SINGEL WOMEN TRAVELING ALONE AT THAT TIME NEVER FORGET ANNA AND THE KING IS A TRUE STORY!! > regards > Terry > Norway >

Hi! I am looking for information on the following three individuals: Joseph Staniforth b. 18 Feb. 1636; Joseph Staniforth b. 30 June 1644; and Thomas Staniforth b. 20 April 1643. All are sons of Johis (John?) Staniforth, and all were born in St. Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire. Any help appreciated. Will be delighted to share what little I have. Thank you.

Hello Maggie I have a Selina MALLISON born1 7 Feb 1851 in Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England. Her parents were George and Ann Mallison nee FLYNN. Selina married Joshua TORDOFF 29 October 1868. His parents were John and Tabitha, my great grandparents. Let me know if these details are of interest Best wishes, Don in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <MaggieMole@aol.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 AM Subject: [WRY] Bennett, Mallinson, Wakefield > My brick wall seems to be building itself ever higher. In my efforts to > find > the parentage of Selina MALLINSON my ggggmother, born Wakefield 1831, and > which is not clarified by her marriage certificate because there is no > trace of > the father she names as John, I have found the following: > 1. 1841 and onwards census returns for the Wakefield Mallinson family. > There's only one such family, so I know it has to be right. > 2. identified from these census returns 4 siblings, all reported born > Wakefield. Neither Selina nor any of her siblings seem to have a record in > the IGI, > under any Wakefield batch number nor under those for Hook, Howden (or > Goole > for luck) which is where her mother was from: only one brother was born > after 1837 and I've ordered his birth certificate. But the others are all > a > mystery. > 3. Selina's sister Lucy MALLINSON married the local blacksmith, William > BENNETT, a widower. She was single and living with her mother in 1861, and > in > 1871 shows children born from 1862 onwards, when William is also living > in the > Mallinson household. I say he was local because both families lived on > Westgate in the centre of Wakefield. I can't find any marriage for these > two > individuals (separately) in a Wakefield district, and I've checked the > images of the > registers online, not just transcripts. Another mystery. > > I am seriously beginning to think Selina's mother Jane never married and > bore all her children under her maiden name. Would this have been a > barrier to > getting them baptised? or to getting formally married? > > What am I missing or doing wrong? Is there a publication of the Wakefield > registers? > > I should just add a story: there's someone else finding the same brick > wall, > and coincidentally we both posted on Curious Fox in the same week. It > turns > out he's a third cousin previously unknown. So sometimes brick walls are > good > for you .. > Maggie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1153 - Release Date: > 26/11/2007 9:08 PM > >

Alan I was just looking through the Lane Independant Chapel [CO86101]for my Charlesworths when I decided to look at Hinchliffes and found 50 Christenings. I believe Lane Independant was next door to Hinchliffe Mill .Connie

Hello Alan, I may be wrong but Lee Moor could be near Holmfirth as Netherthong is near there. Mary > Thanks Bill and Mary... > > ...yes, that looks likely, Bill. > > Unfortunately almost certainly too far from Upperthing to be a "click" > > Cheers > Alan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers. Our local archives here in Whitby Ontario has on file the descedants of one Christpher Samson Batty, born 1820 in Yorkshire.... Pat (Whitby, Ontario). bwinter@whitbylibrary.on.ca

Hi Alan, I see your problem. According to my listings, on the 1841 C., there are three H. families, but they only have Elizabeths at ages 6 or 45, and no Mary Anns. In Upperthong, there are 28 H. families, and Mary Ann is with this gang: Wright 8 Appleyard 10 Jonathan 12 Joseph 14 Mary Ann 15 Joshua 17 Woollen weaver apprentice Elizabeth 40 George 40 Clothier ?? Alan

Thanks Bill and Mary... ...yes, that looks likely, Bill. Unfortunately almost certainly too far from Upperthing to be a "click" Cheers Alan

Hi you may find them in the St Petersberg records. everyone inthe then Russian capital was registered. Dont forget at that time ordinary Russians needed an internal passport to travel, and foriegners were equaly controlled if not so obviously. A source that might be useful is FEEFHS; Federation of Eastern European Family History Societies at http://feefhs.org whilst mainly for those who have families in Eastern Europe they may well have folk who can perhaps help you as I doudt you read Russian or know where to start AS TO SINGEL WOMEN TRAVELING ALONE AT THAT TIME NEVER FORGET ANNA AND THE KING IS A TRUE STORY!! regards Terry Norway > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:01:44 -0600 > From: drosegarden@gmail.com > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] Wilkinson Research > > Yes, Terry, I looked at them at Guild Hall. They do not give Mary's > maiden name, nor do they give from where in England Jabez came, which > is what I'm trying to figure out. Sarah Parker was my great great > grandmother's sister. I have letters she wrote to my great > grandmother from St. Petersburg. > > But thanks for the suggestion. The British Chaplencey records were a > great help because Jabez died about a year after Sarah married him and > she later married James Thornton in 1838. Before going to the Guild > Hall I had been aware only that Sarah had been married to James > Thornton. > > I have been trying to figure out if Sarah went to St. Petersburg to > work and met Jabez there, or if she had known Jabez Wilkinson in > England and went there to marry him after Mary's death. I'm not sure > if in the 1830's a single woman would go to another country by herself > to work. > > DeAnne > > On 11/27/07, TERRY HOPKIN- SUNDBY wrote: >> >> Have you tried the British Chaplencey records, >> regards >> Terry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline

Hi Folks, Due to having a problem with email, Magdalena has asked me to send the latest updates to the above list to the various Yorkshire mailing lists, so here goes: AIRTON/AYRTON, ALDERSON BAILES, BEDDOWS, BEEFORTH, BEVIL(S), BINKS BLACKBURN, BOURNE, BRADLEY CROASDALE DEWHURST EARNSHAW HARGREAVES, HARKER, HARRISON, HUTCHINSON JACKSON LUND MYERS PALETHORPE, PETERSEN, PUCKERING ROBERTS, ROONEY, RUNCIMON SAWLEY, SAYER, SLINGSBY, SPRUCE, SWEETING SWIRE THORNBER, TODD, TROTTER WATKINSON, WHIPP Please note that these are not Magdalena's personal names, but "yours" added to the Yorkshire Surnames list at: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm Details for adding yours to the list can be found under a link on "How to subscribe" on the above page. The list is maintained as a volunteer by Magdalena. Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://cdroms.blunham.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

...yes, that looks likely, Bill. Unfortunately almost certainly too far from Upperthing to be a "click" Hi Alan......how about the Lees Moor near to Keighley? _http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/cravenleisure/leisurediningout/display.var.1786 650.0.the_three_acres_lees_moor_keighley.php?act=login_ (http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/cravenleisure/leisurediningout/display.var.1786650.0.the_three_acres_ lees_moor_keighley.php?act=login) mary lou **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Have you tried the British Chaplencey records, regards Terry > From: yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:05:23 +0000> Subject: Re: [WRY] Wilkinson Research> > drosegarden@gmail.com> wrote> snip<> Does anyone have information on a Jabez Wilkinson? He married a Mary > in England, and went to St. Petersburg, Russia where Mary died.> Hi> I wonder if this could be his first marriage (from IGI)> Christine> > JABEZ WILKINSON> Marriages:> Spouse: MARY ATHA> Marriage: 23 OCT 1826 St Peters, Leeds, Yorkshire, England> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us

Maggie Found these mallinsons on wakefield website there abit later than you are looking at but may be of some use There is a Mary Mallinson as being excused paying her rates on this website http://www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk/Accounts%201858%20-%20arrears~%20Westgate.htm The year is 1858 There is also a Martha Mallinson receiving relief from Wakefield union http://www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk/Wakefield%20Union%20~%20Wakefield%20pt%202.ht m in 1886 Bev -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MaggieMole@aol.com Sent: 27 November 2007 14:25 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] Bennett, Mallinson, Wakefield My brick wall seems to be building itself ever higher. In my efforts to find the parentage of Selina MALLINSON my ggggmother, born Wakefield 1831, and which is not clarified by her marriage certificate because there is no trace of the father she names as John, I have found the following: 1. 1841 and onwards census returns for the Wakefield Mallinson family. There's only one such family, so I know it has to be right. 2. identified from these census returns 4 siblings, all reported born Wakefield. Neither Selina nor any of her siblings seem to have a record in the IGI, under any Wakefield batch number nor under those for Hook, Howden (or Goole for luck) which is where her mother was from: only one brother was born after 1837 and I've ordered his birth certificate. But the others are all a mystery. 3. Selina's sister Lucy MALLINSON married the local blacksmith, William BENNETT, a widower. She was single and living with her mother in 1861, and in 1871 shows children born from 1862 onwards, when William is also living in the Mallinson household. I say he was local because both families lived on Westgate in the centre of Wakefield. I can't find any marriage for these two individuals (separately) in a Wakefield district, and I've checked the images of the registers online, not just transcripts. Another mystery. I am seriously beginning to think Selina's mother Jane never married and bore all her children under her maiden name. Would this have been a barrier to getting them baptised? or to getting formally married? What am I missing or doing wrong? Is there a publication of the Wakefield registers? I should just add a story: there's someone else finding the same brick wall, and coincidentally we both posted on Curious Fox in the same week. It turns out he's a third cousin previously unknown. So sometimes brick walls are good for you .. Maggie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 27/11/2007 11:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 27/11/2007 11:40

drosegarden@gmail.com wrote snip<> Does anyone have information on a Jabez Wilkinson? He married a Mary in England, and went to St. Petersburg, Russia where Mary died. Hi I wonder if this could be his first marriage (from IGI) Christine JABEZ WILKINSON Marriages: Spouse: MARY ATHA Marriage: 23 OCT 1826 St Peters, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

G'day Alan, Perhaps the Lees Moor is this: Lees Moor *Location* Lees Moor is a quite a large traditional council estate popular with families. It is located in the Thornhill Lees area of Dewsbury with the canal running the length of the estate. It is approximately 2 - 3 miles from Dewsbury town centre or a 5 to 10 minute drive. *Transport* Lees Moor Estate can be reached on a variety of buses, 281, 282 and 283, all of which run from Dewsbury town centre every 10 minutes. The buses then travel onwards to the Batley Showcase Cinema, the White Rose Centre and Leeds. Regards, Bill Melbourne, Oz AlanW wrote: > Thanks for that, Mary... > > ...."my" Mary always seemed to give her name as "Mary Ann". > > However, would you know where "Lees Moor(e?)" was relative to Upperthong? > > Cheers > Alan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone have information on a Jabez Wilkinson? He married a Mary in England, and went to St. Petersburg, Russia where Mary died. He then married Sarah Parker who was from Sheffield on 10 December 1832 in St. Petersburg. Hi.....This looks like his first marriage from the IGI: JABEZ WILKINSON & MARY ATHA October 23, 1826 St. Peters, Leeds, Yorkshire And this *could* be his birth: JABEZ WILKINSON November 9, 1802 Salendine Nook Meeting House - Particular Baptist Quarmby cum Lindley, Yorkshire Parents: John & Betty Wilkinson John & Betty also registered the following children at the same place: Thomas Wilkinson - 1790 Hannah Wilkinson - 1794 John Wilkinson - 1796 Nanny Wilkinson - 1805 Best wishes.......mary lou ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003