Judith wrote, <I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' 1665-1955> it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup> Hi Judith, When you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of BIRKETT, KNOWLES or HUNTINGTON in the book you have? My gggg grandmother, Jane BIRKETT was born 4 Apr 1795/96 in Lancashire, the daughter of James BIRKETT and Martha KNOWLES, who were Quakers, but Jane married a non-attender, Thomas HUNTINGTON. Thomas and Jane HUNTINGTON left Dolphinholme, Lancashire about 1831 and they were living in Birkenshaw, Yorkshire when Jane (Birkett) HUNTINGTON died on 11 July 1837. I would love to see if they mention her death, or the BIRKETTS and KNOWLES in the book you have. Thanks so much! Sherry Shallenberger (Pennsylvania)

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surname of Law/Low/Lowe would be apppreciated if you have the time. marea in Tasmania Judith Varley <judith.varley@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello Richard, I bought the book quite a few years ago in Harrogate, don't think there were many copies published, it's a big book the size of a Telephone Directory not very well printed . I did see another copy for sale at a Book Fair at Pudsey, don't thinl Leeds Libary have a copy. There are 6 Ellis's in the index Alice Ellis- left land in Airton [near Skipton] the rent of which was to be use to apprentice young people and this increased the number of applications .The first payment of £5 was received in 1711, there are another 2 refs to her if you are interested. Edith Maud Ellis - of Scarborough she was imprisoned in 1918 presume it was something to do with the Gt War John Ellis- he was connected to Ackworth School from 1796 Marion Ellis - just says she was at a meeting in 1917 discussing disarmament and was from Leicester. Thomas Ellis - 1666 Taken from a meeting at Wolldale to sessions at Wakefield imprisoned 6 mths and fined goods worth £9-10s this came under the chapter under the title Sufferings. William Ellis - Think he was Alices Husband they are mentioned together living in Airton. Judith At 21:17 24/12/2007, you wrote: >Hello Judith > >I haven't heard about the Thistlewaite book, though I do >have lots of bmds of ELLIS family members collected from >the Leeds archives by an ancestral living relative > >Needless to say I would be interested in a lookup of ELLIS >surnames in this register to check on any additional surnames - >and especially by their location - as this missing information. > >Richard > >PS Is this book generally available either through the national >library scheme or to buy? > >-----Original Message----- >From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Judith Varley >Sent: 24 December 2007 19:37 >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > >I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite >'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' >1665-1955 >it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup >Judith > > > > > > > > > >At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote: > >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records > >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. > >Judith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "richard ellis" > > >To: > > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM > > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > >Hi Richard, > > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there >are > > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and >add > > >to the rest. > > > > > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial >place > > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > > > > > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 >Huddersfield > > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > > > website on the internet. > > > > > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker >records > > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that >one > > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > > > parish records > > > > > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when >the > > > > family was C of E. > > > > > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and >marriages > > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > > > Australia, > > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You >may > > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for >are > > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those >MM > > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in >the > > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM >records > > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > > Quaker > > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > > > society > > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of >mine > > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also >read > > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > > > could > > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > > > lost > > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > > > locate > > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > > > well. > > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is >well > > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all >you > > > > can > > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for >some > > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > > > years > > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > > > Stamford, CT > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. > > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. 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Could you please try Fenimore? I doubt they will be in there but I have searched meeting records across central and southern England (including London) to no avail looking for the births of three sons between 1672-1680. This family did arrive in America at the same time as, and live near, a lot of Yorkshire Quakers. Thanks, Liane ---- Judith Varley <judith.varley@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite > 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' > 1665-1955 > it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup > Judith > > > > > > > >

Judith We would be very interested to hear of any HOWKER, HOULKER, HOLKER or similar references, please? Have a good Christmas! Geoff in damp Sevilla > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:37:19 +0000> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com> From: judith.varley@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire> > I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite> 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]'> 1665-1955> it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup> Judith> > > > > > > > > > At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote:> >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records> >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed.> >Judith> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote:> >> > >----- Original Message -----> > >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk>> > >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com>> > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM> > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire> > >> > >Hi Richard,> > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are> > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add> > >to the rest.> > >> > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place> > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet.> > >> > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield> > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire> > >> > >> > > > Dear Janet> > > >> > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access> > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS> > > > website on the internet.> > > >> > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records> > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one> > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E> > > > parish records> > > >> > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though> > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the> > > > family was C of E.> > > >> > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages> > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers -> > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism,> > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker> > > > marriage.( though someone may know!)> > > >> > > > Richard> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----> > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com> > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas> > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43> > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire> > > >> > > >> > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in> > > > Australia,> > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may> > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are> > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM> > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the> > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records> > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > > Quaker> > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish> > > > registers before they were Quakers.> > > >> > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the> > > > society> > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine> > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read> > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers> > > > could> > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings.> > > > Fascinating stuff!> > > >> > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived> > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I> > > > lost> > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily> > > > locate> > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as> > > > well.> > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well> > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you> > > > can> > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some> > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be> > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837.> > > >> > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few> > > > years> > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory.> > > >> > > > Janet Sugden Thomas> > > > Stamford, CT> > > >> > > > -------------------------------> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -------------------------------> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date:> > > > 19/12/2007 19:37> > > >> > > >> > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------> > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.> > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date.> > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> > >Try SPAMfighter for free now!> > >> > >> > >-------------------------------> > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> >> >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Richard, I bought the book quite a few years ago in Harrogate, don't think there were many copies published, it's a big book the size of a Telephone Directory not very well printed . I did see another copy for sale at a Book Fair at Pudsey, don't thinl Leeds Libary have a copy. There are 6 Ellis's in the index Alice Ellis- left land in Airton [near Skipton] the rent of which was to be use to apprentice young people and this increased the number of applications .The first payment of £5 was received in 1711, there are another 2 refs to her if you are interested. Edith Maud Ellis - of Scarborough she was imprisoned in 1918 presume it was something to do with the Gt War John Ellis- he was connected to Ackworth School from 1796 Marion Ellis - just says she was at a meeting in 1917 discussing disarmament and was from Leicester. Thomas Ellis - 1666 Taken from a meeting at Wolldale to sessions at Wakefield imprisoned 6 mths and fined goods worth £9-10s this came under the chapter under the title Sufferings. William Ellis - Think he was Alices Husband they are mentioned together living in Airton. Judith At 21:17 24/12/2007, you wrote: >Hello Judith > >I haven't heard about the Thistlewaite book, though I do >have lots of bmds of ELLIS family members collected from >the Leeds archives by an ancestral living relative > >Needless to say I would be interested in a lookup of ELLIS >surnames in this register to check on any additional surnames - >and especially by their location - as this missing information. > >Richard > >PS Is this book generally available either through the national >library scheme or to buy? > >-----Original Message----- >From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Judith Varley >Sent: 24 December 2007 19:37 >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > >I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite >'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' >1665-1955 >it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup >Judith > > > > > > > > > >At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote: > >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records > >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. > >Judith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> > > >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM > > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > >Hi Richard, > > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there >are > > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and >add > > >to the rest. > > > > > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial >place > > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > > > > > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 >Huddersfield > > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > > > website on the internet. > > > > > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker >records > > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that >one > > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > > > parish records > > > > > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when >the > > > > family was C of E. > > > > > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and >marriages > > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > > > Australia, > > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You >may > > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for >are > > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those >MM > > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in >the > > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM >records > > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > > Quaker > > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > > > society > > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of >mine > > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also >read > > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > > > could > > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > > > lost > > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > > > locate > > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > > > well. > > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is >well > > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all >you > > > > can > > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for >some > > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > > > years > > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > > > Stamford, CT > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. > > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judith I haven't heard about the Thistlewaite book, though I do have lots of bmds of ELLIS family members collected from the Leeds archives by an ancestral living relative Needless to say I would be interested in a lookup of ELLIS surnames in this register to check on any additional surnames - and especially by their location - as this missing information. Richard PS Is this book generally available either through the national library scheme or to buy? -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Judith Varley Sent: 24 December 2007 19:37 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' 1665-1955 it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup Judith At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote: >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. >Judith > > > > > > > > > > > >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> > >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > >Hi Richard, > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add > >to the rest. > > > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > > > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > > website on the internet. > > > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > > parish records > > > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > > > family was C of E. > > > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > > Australia, > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > Quaker > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > > society > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > > could > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > > lost > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > > locate > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > > well. > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > > > can > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > > years > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > > Stamford, CT > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No sorry Mary there are no Jarvill's in the index Judith At 20:00 24/12/2007, you wrote: >Hello Judith, > >I have a JARVILL family who were in West Yorkshire, when some came to the >USA they joined the Society of Friends, they lived in Oughtibridge near >Sheffield if there is a name index could you see if there is any of the >family in it. JARVILL is a rare name. >Thank you, > > Hope you have a very Happy Christmas Judith and to all the List thank you >for sharing all the posts it sure helps one get the big picture. All the >best in 2008. > > Mary Turnbull Surrey BC Canada > > > > > > >From: "Judith Varley" <judith.varley@btinternet.com> >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > > >I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite > > 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' > > 1665-1955 > > it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' 1665-1955 it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup Judith At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote: >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. >Judith > > > > > > > > > > > >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> > >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > >Hi Richard, > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add > >to the rest. > > > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > > > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > > website on the internet. > > > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > > parish records > > > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > > > family was C of E. > > > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > > Australia, > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > Quaker > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > > society > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > > could > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > > lost > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > > locate > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > > well. > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > > > can > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > > years > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > > Stamford, CT > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. Judith At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > >Hi Richard, > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add >to the rest. > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > Dear Janet > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > website on the internet. > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > parish records > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > > family was C of E. > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > Richard > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > Australia, > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these Quaker > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > society > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > could > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > lost > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > locate > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > well. > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > > can > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > years > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > Stamford, CT > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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----- Original Message ----- From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire Hi Richard, I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add to the rest. It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield & Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > Dear Janet > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > website on the internet. > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > parish records > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > family was C of E. > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > Australia, > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these Quaker > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > registers before they were Quakers. > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > society > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > could > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > Fascinating stuff! > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > lost > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > locate > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > well. > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > can > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > years > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > Janet Sugden Thomas > Stamford, CT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Thank you for the look up Judith, Mary > No sorry Mary there are no Jarvill's in the index > Judith > > > > > > > > > At 20:00 24/12/2007, you wrote: >>Hello Judith, >> >>I have a JARVILL family who were in West Yorkshire, when some came to the >>USA they joined the Society of Friends, they lived in Oughtibridge near >>Sheffield if there is a name index could you see if there is any of the >>family in it. JARVILL is a rare name. >>Thank you, >> >> Hope you have a very Happy Christmas Judith and to all the List thank >> you >>for sharing all the posts it sure helps one get the big picture. All the >>best in 2008. >> >> Mary Turnbull Surrey BC Canada >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: "Judith Varley" <judith.varley@btinternet.com> >>To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >> >> >I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite >> > 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' >> > 1665-1955 >> > it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a >> > lookup >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Judith, I have a JARVILL family who were in West Yorkshire, when some came to the USA they joined the Society of Friends, they lived in Oughtibridge near Sheffield if there is a name index could you see if there is any of the family in it. JARVILL is a rare name. Thank you, Hope you have a very Happy Christmas Judith and to all the List thank you for sharing all the posts it sure helps one get the big picture. All the best in 2008. Mary Turnbull Surrey BC Canada From: "Judith Varley" <judith.varley@btinternet.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite > 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' > 1665-1955 > it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup

Hi Registers for Thorne are at Doncaster Archives Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Quakers in Yorkshire > Hi Barbara, > > Civil Registration started in England July 1st 1837. So therefore NO birth > certificates prior to that. > > You will have to trace Edward via the baptismal records for this family > exactly as you did with the Church of England records that you are > familiar > with. (LDS). > > If you check with GENUKI for Yorkshire and then "Where is it" for Thorn it > should tell you where the registers were deposited. > > Good luck. > > Elaine in Ottawa. > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Top Ender" <topender@aapt.net.au> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: December 22, 2007 6:31 AM > Subject: [WRY] Quakers in Yorkshire > > >> Hello Listers >> >> If sks could please tell me where to look for a Quaker Birth Index? >> >> The IGI only has different guesses that people have submitted but no >> actual Batch No's or Source Call No's. >> Edward Casson ROWNTREE b. 1811 Thorne Yorkshire my Gt Gt Grandfather >> >> The only question I can think to ask if there is an Index for the Quakers >> Are they held in Yorkshire or in London? >> >> I am looking for a copy of the birth date register as well as the full >> reference. >> I am not familiar with Quaker records but do have knowledge of Parish >> records that can be accessed through the LDS. >> >> Thanking you in Advance >> Barbara from the Top End of Australia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: >> 12/21/2007 1:17 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

May I take this opportunity of wishing all Listers a very Happy Christmas - and especially my distant cousin Judith Varley, who I know is as proud to be descended from our mutual ancestor with the wonderful name, LANCELOT YELLOW (1723-1797) of Sutton-under-Whitestonecliffe, as I am ! I don't believe Lancelot was a Quaker, though. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

Andy Interesting about Milnsbridge House I think this is the place were Radcliff live during the Luddite revolt of 1812/13, he was a magistrate. I also found three Clapham's at Kirkheaton on the parish boundary with Hartshead; they were living at Colne Bridge between 1850 and 1865. Almondbury and Bowland again the gentry would be the Kaye's. Kirkheaton Church is now open on a Thursday Afternoon between 2 and 4 but if your travailing a long way ring the Parish Office the morning before between 9.15 and 11.15, I'm going to be at the church once a month please e-mail for exact date. I don't think the list owner will mind about this, I'm trying to find out who as copyright to Legh Tolson History of Kirkheaton, I'm would like to scan it and sell it all the proceeds will go to Kirkheaton Churchyard Project the same as the burial Book CD. Steve

It would appear that some Quaker records are listed as such. Tab in Shewell, just use area and country-England, and the first entries are Meeting records. beth in NS with an interest in Shewell's in Glos.

Dear Janet I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS website on the internet. However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E parish records My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the family was C of E. I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker marriage.( though someone may know!) Richard -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in Australia, I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these Quaker records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish registers before they were Quakers. Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the society they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers could no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. Fascinating stuff! The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I lost my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily locate this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as well. The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you can get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be married in the C of E prior to 1837. If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few years since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. Janet Sugden Thomas Stamford, CT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message