From: "Kingsley Hirst" <dkh@xtra.co.nz> > I haven't located a similar post via a search. > > I have noticed that the IGI information can be exactly 1 year > different to the (say) the English Parish Records: Yorkshire (West > Riding) [this is a CD purchased through Ancestry.com). > > For example: > Mary Cardwell, IGI Batch: P009801 has a Christening Date of 3 Feb . > 1740 (father John Cardwell). > > Whereas the English Parish Records (Thornhill, West Yorkshire) has > the following entry: 03 Feb 1739 Mary the dau: of John Cardwell Junr > > I believe the above to be the same person. > > Neverthless, I am sure I have seen similar examples and I wondered > (besides the fact that I could have the wrong person) whether anyone > else had noticed this or had an explantion.> There is absolutely nothing whatsoever new in this "phenomenon" and the explanation is perfectly simple, as Elaine has told you. It is due to calendar changes that took place in 1752. These are covered in my Newbies' Guide (URL below). You may find it useful to read this or get yourself a decent book on tracing your family history and find out for yourself some of the well-known "tricks of the trade". Prior to 1752, the year began on March 25 and ended on March 24. This can cause confusion to newcomers when dealing with events and dates between Jan 1 and March 24 before 1752 as to which year to place them in. The ancient Julian Calendar was replaced by the Gregorian Calendar and the start of the year altered to January 1st. At the same time, 11 days were removed from the calendar altogether in 1752, since it was discovered that the Julian Calendar, used by most of Europe, had fallen 11 days behind the Gregorian one. The date Sep 2 1752 was followed by Sep 14 1752. Prior to 1752, the months of January, February and most of March were the last months of the Old Year. From 1752 they became the FIRST months of the New Year. Thus, the date to which you refer above, i.e. 3 Feb 1739, would actually have been 3 Feb 1740 in MODERN terms, i.e. post-1752. So both dates are technically correct! However, the proper way to write it in your records is: 3 Feb 1739/40. What has happened in the case to which you refer is that the incumbent has written the date correctly as it would have been in his time (the year then running from March 25-March 24), but whoever transcribed the event to the IGI has "corrected" it to what is called New Style, i.e. after the calendar changes. This is one of the numerous pitfalls of the IGI - that it isn't made clear whether the dates are Old Style or New Style. As to which source you should believe, you must ALWAYS take the original, in this case the parish registers. The IGI is what is called a SECONDARY source and, as such, should never be preferred over the originals. Had you looked more closely at the CD of the Thornhill parish registers (I possess the same disc) you would have seen that the first christening under the year 1739 is entered on Mar 28 (George ye of Richard Sayner of Briestwell). The christenings then continue beyond Dec 1739 until 12 March 1739 and are then followed by a heading "Christenings in ye year 1740). The christenings include the one of the Mary Cardwell to which you refer. The first christening in 1740 then takes place on 27 March. Of course, the CD is a secondary source as well - or, rather, a third-hand source, since the transcriptions were taken from printed volumes originally published by the Yorkshire Parish Register Society. However, the transcribers of the printed books have followed the style of the original registers (as, indeed, they should) and have left the dates as Old Style and not altered them to New Style to fit the modern calendar. To reiterate, you should write the event in your records as: MARY CARDWELL, daughter of John CARDWELL, christened on 3 February 1739/40. If necessary to remind yourself or other researchers, you can add an annotated note explaining the calendar changes of 1752 and the difference between Old Style and New Style. I hope this is now clear, since it is one of the most important things you need to know in genealogy! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Kingsley wrote I have noticed that the IGI information can be exactly 1 year different to the (say) the English Parish Records: Yorkshire (West Riding) [this is a CD purchased through Ancestry.com).For example:Mary Cardwell, IGI Batch: P009801 has a Christening Date of 3 Feb 1740 (father John Cardwell).Whereas the English Parish Records (Thornhill, West Yorkshire) has the following entry:03 Feb 1739 Mary the dau: of John Cardwell JunrI believe the above to be the same person.Neverthless, I am sure I have seen similar examples and I wondered (besides the fact that I could have the wrong person) whether anyone else had noticed this or had an explantion.Elaine replied The Gregorian Calendar came into effect in 1752 in England and the New Year Changed from March 24th (ish). The change each year took place on Lady Day. If you check through any early Parish Records you will Note the change is noted on Lady Day. My query Did this one year discrepancy continue towards the end of the century - I have several such instances in the 1780'8 and 1790's, all in one parish (Haworth) between January and March....... Thanks Geoff in Sevilla

Hi Kingsley, The Gregorian Calendar came into effect in 1752 in England and the New Year Changed from March 24th (ish). The change each year took place on Lady Day. If you check through any early Parish Records you will Note the change is noted on Lady Day. Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hirst" <dkh@xtra.co.nz> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: December 30, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: [WRY] Which is correct? IGI or English Parish Registers >I haven't located a similar post via a search. > > I have noticed that the IGI information can be exactly 1 year different to > the (say) the English Parish Records: Yorkshire (West Riding) [this is a > CD purchased through Ancestry.com). > > For example: > Mary Cardwell, IGI Batch: P009801 has a Christening Date of 3 Feb 1740 > (father John Cardwell). > > Whereas the English Parish Records (Thornhill, West Yorkshire) has the > following entry: > 03 Feb 1739 Mary the dau: of John Cardwell Junr > > I believe the above to be the same person. > > Neverthless, I am sure I have seen similar examples and I wondered > (besides the fact that I could have the wrong person) whether anyone else > had noticed this or had an explantion. > > Regards > Kingsley Hirst (in NZ) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: > 12/30/2007 11:27 AM > >

Dear Listers I have a photocopies of original Yorkshire Quaker births, marriages, and burials registers for letter 'E' surnames ONLY from late 17th C up to early 19th C. So if you KNOW your ancestor was a Quaker named E....., then I am able to do a look-up on these limited records. Cautionary note... Some of the details of these records are very difficult to read and so they may not be !00% accurate ,and some are incomplete in their details. Needless to say I cannot vouch for the completeness of these records, but most of my ancestors seem to be there! Regards Richard in Surrey

Hi Josie, I did try that site too, but thought maybe it wasn't right up-to-date. I also tried the site for the Wakefield Express, with its new Family Announcements Service link. The only info I have is from a Christmas card from Eric's widow, saying that he died 09 April last. They live at Wakefield, so I am making a bit of a leap of faith that he died there and not while out of the area. He would have been in his mid-90s, so probably didn't go too far afield. Thanks for having a look for me, Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josie Morson Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 10:47 AM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] HOUGHTON - Wakefield Hello Yvonne, I tried the following Wakefield website and did an online search for Eric Houghton, but there was no record of a Cremation or Burial in 2007. Are you sure that he died in the Wakefield area? http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/CemeteriesAndCrematoria/Genea logySearches/OnlineSearch/default.htm "This search facility contains records of all Burials and Cremations since 1986. Whilst historic records prior to 1986 are continuously being added it has to be understood that at the moment the data base is not a comprehensive record of all Burials and Cremations. Records of stillborn children are not included in the search facility. If you are not sure of the spelling of both Christian names and surname then you are advised to use the surname only to search records. If you know the exact spelling of the surname, checking the 'Exact Surname Match' box will return only the records which exactly match the surname entered." Regards, Josie -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf of Yvonne Scrivener Sent: 30 December 2007 00:13 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] HOUGHTON - Wakefield Is there anyone living in the Wakefield area who would be willing to check the local newspapers for a death / funeral notice for me, please? Eric HOUGHTON died 09 Apr 2007 Thank you, Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message OUTGOING MAIL PROTECTED BY AVG SECURITY SYSTEMS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 29/12/2007 13:27 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2755 (20071229) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Dyson" <geedee@fsmail.net> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire (BIRKETT) Hi Gordon, I have transcribed the of Bradford Quaker Registers. Taken from the book by H. R. Hodgson published in 1926, for which I have written permission from his descendant. As it is possible there are connections in Leeds would you do me look ups please, and I can do the same. Regards Janet Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield & Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > 'ello, Sherry, > I also have another QUAKER Book - "Leeds Friends Minute Book, 1692 to > 1712". and found some BIRKETT's listed, > John BIRKETT (Burkhead) Clothier, of Hunslet, (died 1762) son of John > BURKHEAD - and his wife Mary (BARBER), married 7 Dec 1709 at Leeds. Is > this yor famiy ? If so, I can add their children and other details of > their life in Leeds. > Regards, Gordon. > > > > > > ======================================== > Message Received: Dec 27 2007, 01:24 PM > From: "Roy Stockdill" > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > From: "Sherry Shallenberger" > >> Judith wrote, > Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of >> Friends]' >> 1665-1955> it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone >> would like a lookup> >> >> Hi Judith, >> When you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >> BIRKETT, KNOWLES or HUNTINGTON in the book you have?< > > There is another quite superb book about Yorkshire Quakers called > "Sufferings of Early Quakers in Yorkshire 1652-1690", being a reprint of a > famous book originally published in 1753 by one Joseph BESSE called > "A Collection of the Sufferings of the People called Quakers". > > Besse's book covered the whole country but in 1998 William Sessions > Ltd of York began publishing regional facsimiles, Yorkshire being the > first. It bears an enormous number of names (literally thousands) and > tells of the unjust persecutions of early Quakers, their jailing and > having > all their worldly goods and assets confiscated for refusing to attend > services at the Established church. > > According to the foreword by Michael Gandy, the well-known UK > genealogist, the book is a particularly valuable resource for American > family historians since it pre-dates the establishment of the Quakers in > Pennsylvania. Among those mentioned in it is Abraham Shackleton, of > Harden, near Bingley. Shackleton was jailed for three years and his son, > also Abraham (1696-1771) migrated to Ireland and founded a famous > Quaker school there. Among his descendants was the great explorer, Sir > Ernest Shackleton. > > I confess to being reluctant to offer look-ups since the number of names > is vast and, secondly, a great many are unidentified by place. However, > the book is available for order at a number of sites on the Internet and > costs 12 pounds. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: > 27/12/2007 13:34 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64132 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy McCoy" <shadow23@pacbell.net> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire Hi Judy & Judith, I have been watching your postings, As I have FEARNLEY's who I have no info on them being Quaker's they may well have been. I have Yewdall's and Dewhirst's. Thomas Dewhirst married Mary Yewdall, 9th Feb 1723/4 at Bradford Quaker Meeting. They lived in Great Horton Bradford. Wondered also if there maybe a connection to Fearnley I do have Quaker records of Bradford 1650 onwards 1900's Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated Regards Janet Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield & Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > Hello Judith: > > Would you see if there is the surname FEARNALEY/FEARNLEY listed in the > Thistlethwaite book? > > I have a Thomas FEARNALEY born abt. 1690. He is listed on his son's 1715 > baptism in the Huddersfield P.R.s as a Quaker. > > Thank you very much, > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: > 27/12/2007 13:34 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64132 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi Marie Thanks for the link to the archive. Having taken a browse through it is well worth a look for anyone interested in locations throughout Kirklees (Huddersfield, Mirfield and Dewsbury etc to us traditionalists) To start at the beginning: http://kirkleesimages.org.uk Cheeers Roger west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:49:38 -0000 From: "Marie Robbins" Subject: Re: [WRY] Brockholes Grocery and confectioner To: Message-ID: <000801c84a19$4bc022e0$6401a8c0@newdesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Url of photo of rock terrace 1910 http://kirkleesimages.org.uk/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=k002599&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1icm9ja2hvbGVzJnNlYXJjaD1TZWFyY2gmYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaCZwYWdlPTI= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faith Smith" To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Brockholes Grocery and confectioner > Hello, list... > > Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry. The personal stories and URLs > gave me a greater understanding and appreciation for Brockholes village > life - just what I was hoping for. > > This list is the greatest! > > Happy New Year to all... > > Faith Smith

Is there anyone living in the Wakefield area who would be willing to check the local newspapers for a death / funeral notice for me, please? Eric HOUGHTON died 09 Apr 2007 Thank you, Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia

I second that vote of thanks. I found several pictures of the church in Mirfield where my great-grandparents married. Maggie >>Hi Marie >> Thanks for the link to the archive. Having taken a browse through it is well worth a look for anyone interested in locations throughout Kirklees (Huddersfield, Mirfield and Dewsbury etc to us traditionalists) >> To start at the beginning: >> http://kirkleesimages.org.uk Cheeers Roger

Hello Yvonne, I tried the following Wakefield website and did an online search for Eric Houghton, but there was no record of a Cremation or Burial in 2007. Are you sure that he died in the Wakefield area? http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/CemeteriesAndCrematoria/Genea logySearches/OnlineSearch/default.htm "This search facility contains records of all Burials and Cremations since 1986. Whilst historic records prior to 1986 are continuously being added it has to be understood that at the moment the data base is not a comprehensive record of all Burials and Cremations. Records of stillborn children are not included in the search facility. If you are not sure of the spelling of both Christian names and surname then you are advised to use the surname only to search records. If you know the exact spelling of the surname, checking the 'Exact Surname Match' box will return only the records which exactly match the surname entered." Regards, Josie -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf of Yvonne Scrivener Sent: 30 December 2007 00:13 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] HOUGHTON - Wakefield Is there anyone living in the Wakefield area who would be willing to check the local newspapers for a death / funeral notice for me, please? Eric HOUGHTON died 09 Apr 2007 Thank you, Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message OUTGOING MAIL PROTECTED BY AVG SECURITY SYSTEMS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 29/12/2007 13:27

'ello, Sherry, I also have another QUAKER Book - "Leeds Friends Minute Book, 1692 to 1712". and found some BIRKETT's listed, John BIRKETT (Burkhead) Clothier, of Hunslet, (died 1762) son of John BURKHEAD - and his wife Mary (BARBER), married 7 Dec 1709 at Leeds. Is this yor famiy ? If so, I can add their children and other details of their life in Leeds. Regards, Gordon. ======================================== Message Received: Dec 27 2007, 01:24 PM From: "Roy Stockdill" To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire From: "Sherry Shallenberger" > Judith wrote, > Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' > 1665-1955> it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone > would like a lookup> > > Hi Judith, > When you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of > BIRKETT, KNOWLES or HUNTINGTON in the book you have?< There is another quite superb book about Yorkshire Quakers called "Sufferings of Early Quakers in Yorkshire 1652-1690", being a reprint of a famous book originally published in 1753 by one Joseph BESSE called "A Collection of the Sufferings of the People called Quakers". Besse's book covered the whole country but in 1998 William Sessions Ltd of York began publishing regional facsimiles, Yorkshire being the first. It bears an enormous number of names (literally thousands) and tells of the unjust persecutions of early Quakers, their jailing and having all their worldly goods and assets confiscated for refusing to attend services at the Established church. According to the foreword by Michael Gandy, the well-known UK genealogist, the book is a particularly valuable resource for American family historians since it pre-dates the establishment of the Quakers in Pennsylvania. Among those mentioned in it is Abraham Shackleton, of Harden, near Bingley. Shackleton was jailed for three years and his son, also Abraham (1696-1771) migrated to Ireland and founded a famous Quaker school there. Among his descendants was the great explorer, Sir Ernest Shackleton. I confess to being reluctant to offer look-ups since the number of names is vast and, secondly, a great many are unidentified by place. However, the book is available for order at a number of sites on the Internet and costs 12 pounds. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Url of photo of rock terrace 1910 http://kirkleesimages.org.uk/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=k002599&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1icm9ja2hvbGVzJnNlYXJjaD1TZWFyY2gmYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaCZwYWdlPTI= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faith Smith" <ydaylily12@yahoo.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Brockholes Grocery and confectioner > Hello, list... > > Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry. The personal stories and URLs > gave me a greater understanding and appreciation for Brockholes village > life - just what I was hoping for. > > This list is the greatest! > > Happy New Year to all... > > Faith Smith > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judith, If you have any spare time could you look up the name Myers in your Quaker Book please. Many thanks Carol

Thanks Judith ..... looks like they are still successful in being elusive Daphne

Hello Judith: Would you see if there is the surname FEARNALEY/FEARNLEY listed in the Thistlethwaite book? I have a Thomas FEARNALEY born abt. 1690. He is listed on his son's 1715 baptism in the Huddersfield P.R.s as a Quaker. Thank you very much, Judy

Hi Judith Could you do a look up for any 'Lindley' in the 1600's. Many Thanks Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Shallenberger" <samc123@adelphia.net> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > Judith wrote, <I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson > Thistlethwaite > 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' 1665-1955> it has a > very > good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup> > > Hi Judith, > When you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of > BIRKETT, > KNOWLES or HUNTINGTON in the book you have? My gggg grandmother, Jane > BIRKETT was born 4 Apr 1795/96 in Lancashire, the daughter of James > BIRKETT > and Martha KNOWLES, who were Quakers, but Jane married a non-attender, > Thomas HUNTINGTON. > > Thomas and Jane HUNTINGTON left Dolphinholme, Lancashire about 1831 and > they > were living in Birkenshaw, Yorkshire when Jane (Birkett) HUNTINGTON died > on > 11 July 1837. I would love to see if they mention her death, or the > BIRKETTS > and KNOWLES in the book you have. > > Thanks so much! > Sherry Shallenberger (Pennsylvania) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could I have a look-up for the PRIEST name please?There were quite a few Quakers amongst them and there are still quite a few elusive ones.... maybe you can find one. Thank you Daphne in the Waikari Valley, North Canterbury, New Zealand

Terry wrote, <one should perhaps look in SETTLE/GIGGLESWICK AS THERE WERE ARE KNOWLES IN THE AREA AND SOME LIKE UNCLE GEORGE BARNES WERE I BELIEVE QUAKERS> Terry - thanks for the suggestion. I will check it out. I also wanted to thank everyone who posted information regarding the locations of various Quaker records as well. It's one of the first times I've seen Quaker records discussed on the lists and it's been very helpful. Best wishes to all for a very Happy New Year! Sherry Shallenberger

Hi one should perhaps look in SETTLE/GIGGLESWICK AS THERE WERE ARE KNOWLES IN THE AREA AND SOME LIKE UNCLE GEORGE BARNES WERE I BELIEVE QUAKERS regards Terry Norway > From: samc123@adelphia.net > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:34:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [WRY] Quaker: Knowles, Birkett > > Judith wrote, < Just 1 Knowles in book a late burial 30-6-1925 William > Knowles of Bentham> > no Huntingtons I'm afraid,> > > Earlier Judith also wrote she found 1 Birkett in Chapter 2: member A Suffering In 1681 Henry Roebuck of Carbrook [Sheffield] was > rembursed £4 for a exchequer fine and at the same meeting WILLIAM BIRKETT > lateley removed to Lincolnshire was granted £6-67''for his late sufferings > here> > > The book she refers to is one by W Pearson Thistlethwaite, "Yorkshire > Quartley Meetingof the Soc of Friends" 1665-1955. I don't believe either > of these are mine, but will keep them for future reference - just in case. > Judith - thank you so much for all your time looking them up! Perhaps > someone else will find they fit in their line. > > Best wishes for the New Year! > Sherry Shallenberger > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/