I am trying to put all the facts and information I have with my Ellam family history and I am using Publisher to try to make it more interesting to our descendents. I have learned quite a bit about my husband's grandparents from the census and war records and marriage certificates etc so I am trying to record all this and add personal memories. I wrote about how my mother-in-law was born at home (I even know which home thanks to the 1911 census) and I told the story how she was one of a twin which died at birth and she was very tiny and they wrapped her in cotton wool and put her in the Yorkie Range oven. Then I thought that our grandchildren (particularly living in Australia) would have no idea what I was talking about. So I went on the internet using google and discovered that the Yorkshire Range Company is actually making and suppliyng these for homes today (there is a love affair in Britain it seems with things old - we couldn't wait to pull all these things out now it actually adds value to ones house. Anyway I got my pictures and you can have one of these ranges in your home if you wish. I had a friend whose mother made Yorkshire puddings in her fire oven and I loved them although they weren't light and fluffy. It made me think how did our ancestors cook before gas or electricity in the homes, so I tried google again to see when cooking appliances were made available and I found this a bit too hard so I wondered if any of you have explored this and can give me some ideas. I feel that we are the custodians of our culture and need to pass it on. I watch UK TV programmes like "escape to the country", property ladders" etc and it is an education in itself. English people generally don't like bungalows and spend a lot of time worrying about where the bathroom should go i.e. upstairs or down (our first home didn't have indoor toilet let alone a bathroom, we had one tap). Where I live it is rare to find a two story house and even rarer to find a terrace of houses. There are some in the Eastern States but land was just so available that it was easy to build detached one level homes. Our rooms seem larger too when they give dimensions instead of just showing us the wide angle lenses. I've had my geography improved so much watching these programmes now I need to brush up on my history. I know we had ancestors working in the gas industry in the late 1800s but I think it was available in homes much earlier than that. Jean in S. Australia.

Hello Jean and List. Christopher Hibbert's book "The English-A Social History 1066-1945" is absolutely fascinating and I recommend it to all whose ancestors were part of English history. It gives a snapshot of all levels of society. Pat (Whitby Ontario)

Hi even today you find various ranges, often with double functions warming up the oven and the hot plate above(kettle, pans etc) and then on to a "back boiler" to warm up the hot water tank+radiators. They burn coal or coke in most but those in Ireland use turf from the turf bogs. To get the oven warm there is in most a handle that opens the hot air route around the oven, if we needed to get it warmed up quickly we would burn a good deal of dry twiggs. Very effective, and relative economic, in comparrison with gas and electricity, BUT and it is a big BUT they need cleaning, a task that could take all morning. Most fire places had a ledge sitting out where one could put a kettle for tea. Then there was the delight of the toasting fork, fire blazing in the hearth, and sitting before it slice at a time side at a time one would toast bread. For times before the 1900's there is a TV program about how cooking was done in those times. My experiences are from the late forties early fifties. regards Terry Norway > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:25:46 +1030 > Subject: Re: [WRY] Need help with background information > > I am trying to put all the facts and information I have with my Ellam family > history and I am using Publisher to try to make it more interesting to our > descendents. I have learned quite a bit about my husband's grandparents > from the census and war records and marriage certificates etc so I am trying > to record all this and add personal memories. > > I wrote about how my mother-in-law was born at home (I even know which home > thanks to the 1911 census) and I told the story how she was one of a twin > which died at birth and she was very tiny and they wrapped her in cotton > wool and put her in the Yorkie Range oven. Then I thought that our > grandchildren (particularly living in Australia) would have no idea what I > was talking about. So I went on the internet using google and discovered > that the Yorkshire Range Company is actually making and suppliyng these for > homes today (there is a love affair in Britain it seems with things old - we > couldn't wait to pull all these things out now it actually adds value to > ones house. Anyway I got my pictures and you can have one of these ranges > in your home if you wish. I had a friend whose mother made Yorkshire > puddings in her fire oven and I loved them although they weren't light and > fluffy. > > It made me think how did our ancestors cook before gas or electricity in the > homes, so I tried google again to see when cooking appliances were made > available and I found this a bit too hard so I wondered if any of you have > explored this and can give me some ideas. > > I feel that we are the custodians of our culture and need to pass it on. I > watch UK TV programmes like "escape to the country", property ladders" etc > and it is an education in itself. English people generally don't like > bungalows and spend a lot of time worrying about where the bathroom should > go i.e. upstairs or down (our first home didn't have indoor toilet let alone > a bathroom, we had one tap). Where I live it is rare to find a two story > house and even rarer to find a terrace of houses. There are some in the > Eastern States but land was just so available that it was easy to build > detached one level homes. Our rooms seem larger too when they give > dimensions instead of just showing us the wide angle lenses. I've had my > geography improved so much watching these programmes now I need to brush up > on my history. > > I know we had ancestors working in the gas industry in the late 1800s but I > think it was available in homes much earlier than that. > > Jean in S. Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

We lived in Victorian houses as children in the 1950s, and both had built-in ranges which took up an entire wall, so not like an Aga or a modern range, as part of the original construction. The first one (Springwood House, Springwood Terrace, Keighley Road, Hebden Bridge if anyone can date it) had the range in what we called the breakfast room, but oh boy! it was the only warm room in the house when we got up on cold mornings, so we all dressed there. It had a small pantry off to one side, so I am sure this was the original kitchen. The larger room which we used as the kitchen itself had no heating, a stone-flagged floor, and the cooking appliances were all free-standing - I think it was probably what the Victorians would call the scullery, and as there was no basement it would have been where washing was done. The range was coal-fired and we didn't let it go out very often (see above!). We still had gaslight fittings in the living room, but they were disconnected. The second to which we moved in 1961 was a mid-terrace house (Hyde Park, King Cross, Halifax) where the kitchen stuck out from the house block looking like a single storey extension. But as all the houses in the terrace were the same, they must have been designed like that. This kitchen had another full-wall range, also coal fired, and I seem to remember it heated the water too. It made excellent yorkshire puddings. But we pulled it out in the interests of creating more space in the tiny kitchen (we were usually 8 and sometimes 10 people living there), and we then had a Baxi fire in the living room which heated the water too. This definitely had to have the ashes raked out from underneath every morning or there wouldn't be enough draught to keep a blaze going. Always the woman's job! Incidentally this house did have a basement: part was used for coal storage - and the coal was tipped down a chute to it, and then had to be carried up in the scuttle to feed fire or range. The other part we used for washing: we had a circular tub (electrically heated) which did the washing, and a hand-powered mangle which squeezed most of the water out. We then took the washing up the steep stairs and out to the yard where it hung on the line to dry. Unless the weather was too bad, in which case it hung on a creel over our heads in the kitchen. Remember them? Apart from replacing the old circular tub and mangle with a twin-tub sometime in the sixties, this was our routine for Mondays. So I think the answer to your question, Jean, is that probably coal was used for cooking and heating in homes far more than gas was, and from an earlier date, and I'd expect gas to be predominantly for lighting. Does anyone have more knowledge about that? Thank you making me visit these memories! best wishes Maggie -----Original Message----- From: jean and terry <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 2:55 Subject: Re: [WRY] Need help with background information I am trying to put all the facts and information I have with my Ellam family history and I am using Publisher to try to make it more interesting to our descendents. I have learned quite a bit about my husband's grandparents from the census and war records and marriage certificates etc so I am trying to record all this and add personal memories. I wrote about how my mother-in-law was born at home (I even know which home thanks to the 1911 census) and I told the story how she was one of a twin which died at birth and she was very tiny and they wrapped her in cotton wool and put her in the Yorkie Range oven. Then I thought that our grandchildren (particularly living in Australia) would have no idea what I was talking about. So I went on the internet using google and discovered that the Yorkshire Range Company is actually making and suppliyng these for homes today (there is a love affair in Britain it seems with things old - we couldn't wait to pull all these things out now it actually adds value to ones house. Anyway I got my pictures and you can have one of these ranges in your home if you wish. I had a friend whose mother made Yorkshire puddings in her fire oven and I loved them although they weren't light and fluffy. It made me think how did our ancestors cook before gas or electricity in the homes, so I tried google again to see when cooking appliances were made available and I found this a bit too hard so I wondered if any of you have explored this and can give me some ideas. I feel that we are the custodians of our culture and need to pass it on. I watch UK TV programmes like "escape to the country", property ladders" etc and it is an education in itself. English people generally don't like bungalows and spend a lot of time worrying about where the bathroom should go i.e. upstairs or down (our first home didn't have indoor toilet let alone a bathroom, we had one tap). Where I live it is rare to find a two story house and even rarer to find a terrace of houses. There are some in the Eastern States but land was just so available that it was easy to build detached one level homes. Our rooms seem larger too when they give dimensions instead of just showing us the wide angle lenses. I've had my geography improved so much watching these programmes now I need to brush up on my history. I know we had ancestors working in the gas industry in the late 1800s but I think it was available in homes much earlier than that. Jean in S. Australia. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to hear from anyone researching connections of: George SUGDEN, son of George SUGDEN and Mary MIDGLEY, baptized 7 Apr 1758 in Keighley, died 2 Feb 1844 in Thwaites. George SUGDEN's father, George SUGDEN [bap 1 Aug 1736, Thwaites], was the son of George SUGDEN [bap 3 Mar 1706], a weaver, and Mary DRIVER [bap 21 Jan 1705]. George SUGDEN's mother, Mary MIDGLEY [bap 3 Oct 1733, Keighley], was the daughter of Joseph MIDGLEY. George SUGDEN married Anne HEATON on 7 Feb 1771 at Keighley. George and Anne s children were George, William, Elizabeth & Nathan. Anne HEATON, daughter of Robert HEATON and Martha BINNS, was baptized Nov 1754 in Keighley. Anne HEATON's father, Robert HEATON [bap 24 Dec 1727, Keighley], was the son of Joseph HEATON & Susan. Anne HEATON's mother, Martha BINNS [born c1729, Deanfields, Keighley]. Thanks, Elizabeth

Thank you for your interest Bill. George and Emma Wilks plus daughter May and son George migrated to N.Z. on the Corinthic departing Southampton on 19th August 1920. The family are shown on the electoral rolls for Christchurch up to 1931. Regards Gloria Wilks Burrill Lake, N.S.W.

Hi Gloria Seems like they never emigrated to NZ 1911 Census shows that they are still in Leeds George age 52 born 1859 and Emma also there age 52 born 1859 This matches details on the 1901 census address Stacks Hill Police Stn George Wilks 42 Police Sgt Emma Wilks 42 William " 21 Gertrude " 17 Nellie 15 " 15 MAY 6 Alice 5. Sorry couldn't give you more details re 1911 census as there is a charge.Hope this is of help Bill

I am having difficulty in tracing the above father and son. George Wilks born 1858 married Emma Greenwood around 1880, George was a policeman (Constable and Sergeant) in the Leeds Police Force from 1880 until his retirement around 1905. Emma Greenwood is believed to be a sister of Greenwood's the jewellers in Leeds. they migrated to New Zealand with daughter May and son George (born 1901) around 1921, following their son William Henry and his wife Florence (Boyington) who migrated in 1910. Daughter May married Charles Beach and settled in Christchurch N.Z. The Christchurch Electoral Rolls 1925/1926/1931 note George junior as a Stained Glass Painter and George Senior as retired. Emma Wilks death notice in the Christchurch paper in 1938 stated she is "a relict of the late George Wilks retired Leeds Policeman" His death has not been discovered in the N.Z. Deaths to 1960. Family story is that George junior return to England "sometime", but there was never a mention of George and Emma Wilks having migrated to N.Z. Neither man is shown in the Passengers inwards to U.K. Any information re this family would be appreciated, Thank you, Gloria Wilks, Burrill Lake, N.S.W.

Thanks Lesley. I can now conclude he is not related to the couple getting married, who were John BOTTOMLEY (s/o James BOTTOMLEY overlooker & Hannah CARR) & Martha HOLMES (d/o David HOLMES miner & Pheby BRIGGS) on 1st Dec 1844. The information I have is that the other witness was Thomas BOTTOMLEY. This forename Thomas doesn't sit easily with what I know, and I'm wondering if there has been a mix-up in transcription with John THOMAS. I don't suppose by any remote chance anyone can confirm what the register actually has? Howard

Quoting from "Huddersfield" by E.A.H.Haigh :- "Savage actions and coarse language ... have given place to more moral conduct and intellectual knowledge', wrote Mrs Jagger of the Huddersfield district in 1914. Other hill and mountain regions had also been 'savage' and 'coarse', but Huddersfield and its moorland hamlets and villages to the south and west seem to have been especially so, having been always isolated from main routes of communication and civilising influences, and never having felt subject to authority. John Wesley's remarks' about the extraordinary wildness of Huddersfield people are well known, as are John Pawson's in 1765 describing them as 'heathens, ignorant and wicked to a degree'. In 1825 a new doctor in Bradford wrote that Bradford people were 'little removed above the brute creation', they thought nothing of killing each other, even so 'I have been told they are worse at Halifax and Huddersfield but 1 think it scarce possible'. Even richer clothiers were crude and rough because they retained the vulgar manners of their low origins." I wouldn't know but I'm sure MY ancestors weren't like that. Were they? Respectfully, John Spivey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Micklethwaite Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 9:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WRY] Almondbury queries At 23:07 08/02/2010, Lesley wrote: >The quotation Andy was talking about refers to John Wesley's visit to >Huddersfield in 1757, when he said 'I never saw a wilder people in >England'. That's the one. Best Wishes, Andy.

Hi, I recently received a detailed account of the life of an ancestor and I had previously wondered why so many children had died in this family - out of 14 live births at least half died as babies or young children. Well the conditions they lived in were horrific, no drains or sewerage, houses crowded together and this describes Huddersfield town, the lower end in particularly and I too remembered Wesley's comments and thought I could well understand how he must have thought the people wild. and they were probably dirty and unkempt in appearance because of their living conditions. Ironically, to me at least, the less a man earned the more he appeared to drink, seeing this as his right rather than feeding his children. In Meltham other ancestors appeared to be able to raise their children so I wonder if they appeared quite as wild to John Wesley. He certainly made an impressing on many of our ancestors anyway. Because Huddersfield has become a large central town and the other places only small villages we don't realise how different it was in 1757. The mills brought a mix of prosperity and misery. Working conditions weren't ideal but houses were built to accommodate the workers and probably to a better standard with better sewerage etc than those in Huddersfield town bottom. It would be interesting to compare housing conditions of the various areas. I found a higher infant mortality amongst my ancestors in Golcar too and wondered at the conditions there. Jean in S. Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Micklethwaite" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Almondbury queries > At 23:07 08/02/2010, Lesley wrote: >>The quotation Andy was talking about refers to John Wesley's visit to >>Huddersfield in 1757, when he said 'I never saw a wilder people in >>England'. > > That's the one. > > Best Wishes, Andy. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day Folks, Would someone please let me know the availability of the subject Registers. I am researching the CROSLANDs there 1685-1714, children of the Rector Thomas CROSLAND. TIA Bill Melbourne, Oz

On 10 Feb 2010 at 23:00, John Spivey wrote: > Quoting from "Huddersfield" by E.A.H.Haigh :- > > "Savage actions and coarse language ... have given place to more moral > conduct and intellectual knowledge', wrote Mrs Jagger of the > Huddersfield district in 1914. Other hill and mountain regions had > also been 'savage' and 'coarse', but Huddersfield and its moorland > hamlets and villages to the south and west seem to have been > especially so, having been always isolated from main routes of > communication and civilising influences, and never having felt subject > to authority. John Wesley's remarks' about the extraordinary wildness > of Huddersfield people are well known, as are John Pawson's in 1765 > describing them as 'heathens, ignorant and wicked to a degree'. In > 1825 a new doctor in Bradford wrote that Bradford people were 'little > removed above the brute creation', they thought nothing of killing > each other, even so 'I have been told they are worse at Halifax and > Huddersfield but 1 think it scarce possible'. Even richer clothiers > were crude and rough because they retained the vulgar manners of their > low origins." > > I wouldn't know but I'm sure MY ancestors weren't like that. Were > they? Respectfully, John Spivey > I have a copy of The Shell Guide to England, originally published in 1970, in which the Introduction to the Yorkshire section was written by the Halifax novelist Phyllis Bentley. She included the following words when writing of the Yorkshire character: "An Abbot of York write to Henry VIII: 'There be such a company of wilful gentlemen within Yorkshire as there be not in all England besides'. In Queen Elizabeth's days the men of Halifax were spoken of as behaving 'after the rude and arrogant manner of their wilde country'. She concludes: "It would be rash to suggest that Yorkshire folk have changed much since those days, and this applies to the womenj as well as to the men. A Yorkshire person has a strong backbone; lean on it but do not try to bend it." -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Thanks Bill for this insight - I wasn't aware of the double contribution - all good background info. Best Wishes, Andy. At 05:50 09/02/2010, you wrote: >You mentioned the proliferation of chapels and later churches within the >old Almondbury Parish and the problems caused by distances to travel to >church each week. You will be aware that there was another reason for >dissent by the parishioners of Holmfirth whereby they objected to the >sharing of fees by Holmfirth Chapel with Almondbury and Kirkburton, >depending on their place of residence.

At 23:07 08/02/2010, Lesley wrote: >The quotation Andy was talking about refers to John Wesley's visit to >Huddersfield in 1757, when he said 'I never saw a wilder people in >England'. That's the one. Best Wishes, Andy.

At 22:19 08/02/2010, Jean wrote: >I keep reading items from people who are able to look at the original >records and I am envious but thanks to the growing army of people interested >we are getting there very well. I echo your thanks to these transcribers - they're wonderful people! Best Wishes, Andy.

Howard wrote: <<In particular, was a John THOMAS Parish Clerk at Halifax parish church in 1844?>> Yes, he was- (information from Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion, a wonderful online resource always worth consulting for Halifax-related questions.) 'John Thomas 1804-18?? ironmonger and jeweller at 17, Cheapside 1851, clerk at Halifax Parish Church 1841-81.' (There is more info about his wife and children). regards, Lesley

Hi, I know what you mean I thought the people who acted as witness were relatives or friends until I realised they appeared on many marriage certificates of various family members not connected with each other and decided they much be professionals whose job it ws to act as a witness. Jean in S. Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <[email protected]> To: "List West Riding" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: [WRY] William HOLMES - Parish Clerk - Bradford pc > There are many marriages at Bradford parish church during the 1850s > witnessed by the same William HOLMES, including some of my BOTTOMLEYs. > From > the 1851 census, it would seem he was the Parish Clerk. Until I found this > out, I had been thinking he was a relative of Martha HOLMES who had > married > John BOTTOMLEY in Halifax. Now I realise there's no connection. > > Are the names of Parish Clerks recorded anywhere? > > In particular, was a John THOMAS Parish Clerk at Halifax parish church in > 1844? > > Howard Geddes > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roy, I don't have anything that links to a Michael Waterland, but there are a number of hits for Waterland in Cowick (about 5 miles away from Brayton) in the 1600's that I have access to on Ancestry. If you ever get back far enough, let me know and I'll do some look ups for you. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:51:24 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WRY] Michael Waterland > > I am new to this "service" but from the e-mail traffic I have seen I am impressed by the responses made to a query. > So, I wonder if you can help me. > Michael Waterland married Catherine Bolton at Brayton in 1760. > Catherine (nee Shillitoe?) was a widow of Gabriel Bolton and was born c1723. > My problem is that I can not trace Michael W's birth (date or place) and wonder if anybody in your area could help, please. > I live in Sussex and don't often get the opportunity of visiting God's county. > Roy Waterland > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day Lesley, Thanks for your comments which should also help many new researchers. By the time you read this, you should have received my earlier reply to Andy and hopefully understand where I am coming from. I must take your first para as a definite answer to the Yate query. I have researched many of the area's CROSLANDs, WHITEHEADs and other lines and have never come across another appearance of Yate other than variations of Yateholme, like those you provided. I shall now let that matter rest and continue with my Holme (and elsewhere) research. You mentioned the proliferation of chapels and later churches within the old Almondbury Parish and the problems caused by distances to travel to church each week. You will be aware that there was another reason for dissent by the parishioners of Holmfirth whereby they objected to the sharing of fees by Holmfirth Chapel with Almondbury and Kirkburton, depending on their place of residence. I located some C18 events for my family at the Parish of Mottram across the border in Cheshire. It appears to me that they preferred to travel there each week rather than go to Holmfirth, contribute to what was seen as two parishes and then have the prospect of the long walk back up the hill to Holme. And the distance to Mottram Parish Chapel at Tintwistle was similar anyway. The opening of St David's at Holmebridge should have been a blessing for many of the Holme, Upperthong and Austonley residents but by then, almost all of mine had left Holme and Almondbury altogether. Thanks for the interest and assistance. Bill Melbourne, Oz [email protected] wrote: > Hello Bill and List > > The index to the transcript of Almondbury PRs 1598-1652 lists 'Yates, > Yetam, Yateholm' together, indicating that these are variant spellings > of the same place. > > As Andy said, Almondbury was a huge parish, so to prevent people having > to walk too many miles to church, there were in the parish five 'Chapels > of Ease' (not to be confused with later non-conformist chapels), at > Holmfirth, Meltham, Honley, Marsden and Slaithwaite, which served the > population for all purposes until Hardwicke's Marriage Act in 1754, > when marriages had to take place only in the main parish church, though > burials and christenings continued at the chapels of ease. > > Holmfirth is complicated by the fact that part of Holmfirth lies in > Kirkburton parish, and Marsden lies partly in Huddersfield parish.The > chapel at Slaithwaite includes many entries for people living in > Linthwaite, but I think the township of Slaithwaite itself was in > Huddersfield Parish, which may explain why the registers for > Slaithwaite chapel do not seem to include any people living in > Slaithwaite! > Please ask further questions if that lot isn't clear- (and I can see > why it wouldn't be!) > > After the Church Building Act of 1818 (the 'Million Act), larger > parishes like Almondbury gradually began to be divided into smaller > parishes, each with their own church. > > The quotation Andy was talking about refers to John Wesley's visit to > Huddersfield in 1757, when he said 'I never saw a wilder people in > England'. > > regards, > > Lesley > > > > > >