Not a stupid question at all, we all had to start somewhere. A search of the 1901 census for Harold Laycock living in Yorkshire born 2yrs either side of 1901 with a father called Joseph brings up just one result, this shows the mother as Annie, so I assume this is the family you mean in your message. The 1901 census entry shows son Harold born at Cleckheaton Yorkshire. The family are living at Cleckheaton at the time and the top of the census page shows that this is in the Urban District of Scholes. The ref. for this census entry is RG13 piece 471 folio 109 page 10. Looking at the page giving the description of the Enumeration District which is No. 7, this shows that the Registration District is North Bierley, Sub District Cleckheaton. If you look at the census image on the Ancestry site at the top you will see it says Cleckheaton District 7, you can click on that District 7 which will take you to the description of the Enumerators walk that he took around District 7 collecting the completed census schedules from the householders. The heading on these description pages shows the Registration district etc., for that area. Searching on Free BMD for a birth of Harold Laycock in North Bierley Reg. District betwee 1895 and 1905 shows the most likely birth for your Harold. Sept. Qtr 1900 Harold Laycock North Bierley REg. District volume 9b page 152. Harold is shown in the 1901 census entry as age 8months, which would be about right if he was born between July -September 1900 and the census was taken on 5th April 1901 then he would between 7-9months old by the time of the census, dependant on the month he had been born during that September Quarter of 1900. Is it in the 1911 census that you have found him with his birth place shown as Scholes? Hope this helpt to get you on your way with Harold Laycock. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<I am new to this list so please bear with me if I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record.>>

There are however several places called Scholes in the West Riding One has been mentioned near Barwick There is another near Cleckheaton, just across the other side of the M62 There is a West Scholes near Clayton Scholes has a place name meaning from Old Norse meaning a temporary hut or shed, and thus the name can occur in many places. Alan Longbottom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of S FOWLER Sent: 20 February 2010 20:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WRY] Help please with Scholes Thanks Sue ________________________________ F -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S FOWLER Sent: 20 February 2010 19:42 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [WRY] Help please with Scholes I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sue ________________________________ From: Sue Regan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 20 February, 2010 20:48:47 Subject: Re: [WRY] Help please with Scholes Not stupid at all -none of us know everything!  Here is a link to the information you need.  http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/S.html For comprehensive information about Yorkshire, I find this in valuable: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Cheers Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S FOWLER Sent: 20 February 2010 19:42 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [WRY] Help please with Scholes I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2697 - Release Date: 02/19/10 07:34:00 Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not stupid at all -none of us know everything! Here is a link to the information you need. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/S.html For comprehensive information about Yorkshire, I find this in valuable: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Cheers Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S FOWLER Sent: 20 February 2010 19:42 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [WRY] Help please with Scholes I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2697 - Release Date: 02/19/10 07:34:00

Thnak you Barbara, a chink of light at the end of a tunnel!! ________________________________ From: BARBARA WALTON <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 20 February, 2010 20:27:18 Subject: Re: [WRY] Help please with Scholes Hi,.  Yes Scholes is in the West Riding, it is next to Barwick in Elmete and not far from Leeds. It is a lovely little village with a lot of history.   Hope that helps Barbara --- On Sat, 20/2/10, S FOWLER <[email protected]> wrote: From: S FOWLER <[email protected]> Subject: [WRY] Help please with Scholes To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 19:41 I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi,.  Yes Scholes is in the West Riding, it is next to Barwick in Elmete and not far from Leeds. It is a lovely little village with a lot of history.   Hope that helps Barbara --- On Sat, 20/2/10, S FOWLER <[email protected]> wrote: From: S FOWLER <[email protected]> Subject: [WRY] Help please with Scholes To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 19:41 I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am new to this list so please bear with me if  I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue

Hi......Scholes seems to be about 5 miles from Bradford in the West Riding . "SCHOLES, in the township of Cleck Heaton, and parish of Birstall, Morley-division of Agbrigg and Morley, liberty of Pontefract; 5 miles S. of Bradford, 5 miles from Halifax, 11 from Leeds and Wakefield." which fits nicely with this marriage: September Qtr. 1896 JOSEPH HENRY LAYCOCK & ANNIE HODGSON Registered at Bradford 9b 53 mary lou

Hi....there are at least five places called Scholes in the West Riding. See this: _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/S.html_ (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/S.html) mary lou In a message dated 2/20/2010 1:08:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am new to this list so please bear with me if I seem to ask a stupd question. Is Scholes part of the West Riding? I am searching for the birth of Harold Laycock born about 1901. Cenus returns show his birthplace as Scholes. His father was Joseph and his mother Annie(maiden name unknown as yet) . There are a lot of Harold Laycocks in Yorkshire and I need to narrow it down a little to be able to find his birth record. Thank you Sue Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Thank you for that, I have tried Google putting in anything I thought relevant, I tried the HDFHS site but I couldn't get on it and had to update my access and then forgot about until I was reading my notes last night and thought someone might be able to help. I don't expect anyone to keep their email address for 10 years as things change so much and most of us have different address's now. I have been very lucky to find someone who had done a lot of research and who visits the library. He has supplied me with 3 different inquest reports and this morning he filled in the missing details regarding my husband's great great uncle . Hubby thought he had his single daughter living with him but I couldn't find a marriage and I thought she was his niece (I won), this also gives me another child for the great great Aunt and an address too, so solved three issues for me. It is amazing what we can do with team work. I like to think I have been helpful in return, and I pass this on to others researching the same family. Jean in S. Australia.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Anyone have a current email address for Norma Neill > Hallo Jean, I have forwarded your message direct to Norma, so no doubt > she'll be in touch with you. > > Joan > >

Norma has done a "one name study" on the Ellam family and she has published a book. She sent me quite a lot of data back in 2000. She asked me to give her any details I had so she could help others. I have only just got round to working on this family and thanks to several other people who are researching the same family lines I have a large amount of information and would love to get in touch with her again. I thought someone on this list might have contact with her. Jean in S. Australia.

Hallo Jean, I have forwarded your message direct to Norma, so no doubt she'll be in touch with you. Joan On 18 February 2010 10:44, jean and terry <[email protected]> wrote: > Norma has done a "one name study" on the Ellam family and she has published > a book. She sent me quite a lot of data back in 2000. She asked me to > give > her any details I had so she could help others. I have only just got round > to working on this family and thanks to several other people who are > researching the same family lines I have a large amount of information and > would love to get in touch with her again. I thought someone on this list > might have contact with her. Jean in S. Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a photograph of Bert ALLOT, Charles HASLOP and David HOPWOOD. It would have been taken before Charles emigrated to Canada around 1912 and they seem to be wearing their working clothes. Charles HASLOP was David HOPWOOD's uncle by marriage. I don't know of any connection with Bert ALLOT and I would love to hear from anyone who can tell me anything about him. If anyone is interested in these families and would like to see the photograph I'll be happy to send one by attachment. Many thanks, Maureen

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Dear All, Jack Parry has completed transcribing the Wath and Mexborough Archives data for the registers for Letwell and Ravenfield. I have added these to my Genuki database and you can find the transcriptions on the relevant Genuki Yorkshire ancient parish pages (Letwell was in Saint John's parish). Should you find anything of interest, please drop Jack Parry a line - you will find a link to email him at the bottom of all of his transcriptions. As you will appreciate he has invested a lot of time in doing the transcriptions and the odd word from a user will "buck him up" no end. If you don't know your way around the Genuki site, you might like to read the "important information" linked to at the top of the main Genuki Yorkshire page. Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com

And if you're after seeing old photographs of the areas, I can always recommend the Francis Frith website. The link here should take you to a page already set up for Halifax. Just enter other place names into the search field to see if they hold any old shots. http://www.francisfrith.com/halifax/ Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:21:45 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WRY] Red Riding > > Another link with info about the trilogy > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Riding > Heather

Another link with info about the trilogy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Riding Heather sally roberts wrote: > Hi Richard, > > You may well want to read the thrust of the stories before wondering what kind of Riding of Yorkshire you will see. > > http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/film/dvd/The-Red-Riding-Trilogy/ > > > > Hope the link is useful! > > Regards, > Sally > > >> The Sunday Boston Globe, on Feb 14, had an article regarding "Red Riding," "the dark and brooding English film trilogy," that will be opening in the Boston area on the 19th. >> Being the son of a West Riding son, dad was born in Halifax, the review presents it as "a claustral epic, moving back and forth between wind-swept moors and windowless interrogation rooms". >> >> Now, to get to my interest, as my family roots began in the Huddersfield area prior to moving up to Halifax, do the external shots show scenes encompassing these two geographical areas? >> >> >> >> Richard Washington >> >> > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Richard, You may well want to read the thrust of the stories before wondering what kind of Riding of Yorkshire you will see. http://www.moviemail-online.co.uk/film/dvd/The-Red-Riding-Trilogy/ Hope the link is useful! Regards, Sally > > The Sunday Boston Globe, on Feb 14, had an article regarding "Red Riding," "the dark and brooding English film trilogy," that will be opening in the Boston area on the 19th. > Being the son of a West Riding son, dad was born in Halifax, the review presents it as "a claustral epic, moving back and forth between wind-swept moors and windowless interrogation rooms". > > Now, to get to my interest, as my family roots began in the Huddersfield area prior to moving up to Halifax, do the external shots show scenes encompassing these two geographical areas? > > > > Richard Washington >

The Sunday Boston Globe, on Feb 14, had an article regarding "Red Riding," "the dark and brooding English film trilogy," that will be opening in the Boston area on the 19th. The article explains that "Riding" refers to the West Riding, part of Yorkshire, and time and place are crucial to the trilogy.  The film titles: "Red Riding 1974," "Red Riding 1980." and "red Riding 1983," make that plain. It identity's the genesis of this trilogy as being based upon a quartet of novels by David Peace,  "Red Riding" mixes fact and fiction. Being the son of a West Riding son, dad was born in Halifax, the review presents it as "a claustral epic, moving back and forth between wind-swept moors and windowless interrogation rooms". Now, to get to my interest, as my family roots began in the Huddersfield area prior to moving up to Halifax, do the external shots show scenes encompassing these two geographical areas? Richard Washington [email protected]

Hi Jean You might find the TV series 'The 1900 House' interesting. It is available on 4OD - just hope viewing isn't limited to UK residents. Try here... http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-1900-house/4od#2922731 This is about a house in London, so a bit different from those in Yorkshire. My husband's grandmother used to live in one of the Huddersfield 'back to back' houses when she was a child - it's still there, with people living in it, but the communal toilet in the back yard has gone, so I guess they now have their own inside bathrooms. There's also the 'Victorian Farm' series on the BBC, but that's about country life, so VERY different from the town life you talk about. I think this may be available on DVD as it's no longer on the BBC iPlayer. When we last went to the Science Museum in London they had a brilliant display of household appliances through the ages. There's some information on their website, particularly here about Gas and Electicity http://www.makingthemodernworld.org.uk/stories/the_rise_of_consumerism/02.ST .03/?scene=3 I don't think gas was used for cooking for quite a while. It was used for lighting. We found an old gas mantle box under the floorboards of our terrace house which was built about 1910. There was a cast iron solid fuel boiler in the kitchen when we moved in, but it wasn't the sort used for cooking. Of course this may well have been updated at some time from the original range. My mother cooked on an electric stove when I was a child in the sixties - and the water was heated by little electric cylinders in the kitchen and bathroom. The only heating was from coal fires. In about 1970 we moved to a house with a solid fuel boiler, but this only heated the water, and we had a couple of 'night storage heaters' (electric) to *heat* the house, but they weren't much good. There aren't many home births nowadays. I had my son at home in 1997, but that was quite unusual. Fortunately he's a hearty chap so didn't need to be put in the range ;-) When he was little, if anyone asked him where he was born, he always replied 'In the Dining Room' rather than the name of the town. Best wishes Kate in Devon > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:west-riding- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of jean and terry > Sent: 14 February 2010 02:56 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WRY] Need help with background information > > I am trying to put all the facts and information I have with my Ellam > family > history and I am using Publisher to try to make it more interesting to > our > descendents. I have learned quite a bit about my husband's > grandparents > from the census and war records and marriage certificates etc so I am > trying > to record all this and add personal memories. > > I wrote about how my mother-in-law was born at home (I even know which > home > thanks to the 1911 census) and I told the story how she was one of a > twin > which died at birth and she was very tiny and they wrapped her in > cotton > wool and put her in the Yorkie Range oven. Then I thought that our > grandchildren (particularly living in Australia) would have no idea > what I > was talking about. So I went on the internet using google and > discovered > that the Yorkshire Range Company is actually making and suppliyng these > for > homes today (there is a love affair in Britain it seems with things old > - we > couldn't wait to pull all these things out now it actually adds value > to > ones house. Anyway I got my pictures and you can have one of these > ranges > in your home if you wish. I had a friend whose mother made Yorkshire > puddings in her fire oven and I loved them although they weren't light > and > fluffy. > > It made me think how did our ancestors cook before gas or electricity > in the > homes, so I tried google again to see when cooking appliances were made > available and I found this a bit too hard so I wondered if any of you > have > explored this and can give me some ideas. > > I feel that we are the custodians of our culture and need to pass it > on. I > watch UK TV programmes like "escape to the country", property ladders" > etc > and it is an education in itself. English people generally don't like > bungalows and spend a lot of time worrying about where the bathroom > should > go i.e. upstairs or down (our first home didn't have indoor toilet let > alone > a bathroom, we had one tap). Where I live it is rare to find a two > story > house and even rarer to find a terrace of houses. There are some in > the > Eastern States but land was just so available that it was easy to build > detached one level homes. Our rooms seem larger too when they give > dimensions instead of just showing us the wide angle lenses. I've had > my > geography improved so much watching these programmes now I need to > brush up > on my history. > > I know we had ancestors working in the gas industry in the late 1800s > but I > think it was available in homes much earlier than that. > > Jean in S. Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message