Hi Roy, Thank you for your e-mail.. All my research into the Leack family was done quite a number of years ago - in the dark ages - before computers and have to admit I haven't looked at it for quite some time. A visit to the Lancaster Family History group a couple of weeks ago to hear a talk by a Professor from Lancaster University  about the Inns, Taverns etc. of Lancaster  re-ignited my interest. Richard LEACK was the landlord of the White |Lion in Leonardgate from about 1810 until 1828. I only have him on one census entry - the 1851 - living with a married daughter Elizabeth MUSGROVE in Leonardgate.  He's a widower aged 69 born in Clapham Yks.  I wasn't able to find the family on the 1841 census lots of it was illegible.  It wouldn't have given me his exact age and where he was born, other than "Out of County" would it? I haven't seen the marriage entry personally it came via a third party - I think a visit to the Record Office in Preston is called for!   I have found a number of baptisms and marriages for LEECH in Clapham and Long Preston on www.familysearch.org   I have found a marriage of a Richard LEECH to a Hannah MACKRETH 17 November 1783 at Clapham but no baptisms related to them.  I am wondering whether they may have moved over the Pennines after their marriage. Would you know if there is a web-site for the IGI batch numbers? Jean Spencer ________________________________ From: Roy Stockdill <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 15 March, 2010 12:49:20 Subject: Re: [WRY] LEAK/LEACH/LEACK On 15 Mar 2010 at 12:34, JEAN SPENCER wrote: > I am new to the list and am specifically searching for information on > my gt.gt.gt. grandfather Richard LEAK who was born circa 1782 in > Clapham, Yorkshire. > > According to the parish registers of St. Mary's, Lancaster, he married > Elizabeth Croasdale there in September 1808.  Subsequent census > information give his place of birth as Clapham, Yorkshire.  I have > been unable to find a baptism for him on-line and would be interested > in hearing from anyone with information or connections. > Pardon me for asking, Jean, but do the Lancaster registers specifically state he was of the parish of Clapham, Yorkshire? Presumably they must, otherwise can you be sure you have the right man? The IGI has a Richard Leak baptised at Bentham (High and Low Bentham are fairly close to Clapham) on 29 Mar 1778, son of John and Mary Leak, and another Richard Leak baptised at Giggleswick (again, not that far away) on 17 Mar 1782, son of Margaret Leak, no father given so presumably illegitimate. You cannot rely too much on ages in the early censuses, especially of people born that long before civil registration came in in 1837. Very often they didn't know exactly how old they were of where they'd been born! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 16 Mar 2010 at 15:27, Steve Bamford wrote: > Jayne, > > Do you have any other details on the marriage certificate, e.g. > father's occupation, witnesses (who are often siblings or other > relatives) - these might give you clues that could help you pin down > the father. > > FreeBMD is a very useful resource if you're not familiar with it > (http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl). The only Frank White I could > find there in 1927 in the Leeds area is one born in Hunslet (which is > now a suburb of Leeds but formerly a separate district) in April-June > 1927. Assuming the age given on the marriage certificate is accurate, > this is most likely your man (though of course you can never be sure > of anything in genealogy - e.g. he could have moved to Leeds from > somewhere else). It also gives his mother's maiden name (Lee) so you > can trace the marriage too from FreeBMD. In fact the FreeBMD entry > for this is misleading - it gives a marriage of Frank White to someone > called Lee in "Holbeach", July-Sept 1922, but there is no matching > entry for the spouse. However I checked with Ancestry and it gives a > marriage in the same period to "White" in Holbeck, which does make > sense as Holbeck is also south of Leeds, near Hunslet, so it looks as > if the entry for Frank White has been mis-transcribed (Holbeach is > quite a way from Leeds, in Lincolnshire). > Yes, the FreeBMD entry for the marriage has indeed been mistranscribed as having taken place at Holbeach, Lincs, which explains why I couldn't initially find it. I did find an entry for Nellie Lee at HOLBECK in the same quarter with a matching spouse, WHITE, but no entry for Frank. If you look again at the FreeBMD entry you will see that somebody has added a postem with the appropriate correction. However, this was not quite the proper way to do it. There is a facility for making a correction that makes it permanent. As a matter of interest, I always try and do this if I see an error at FreeBMD and contribute a correction. I strongly urge everybody to do this as well, as it can only help us all. However, if you are correcting a FreeBMD entry do be careful to read the rules! Normally, about the only source they will accept is one that comes from the GRO fiche and if that is clearly wrong, you can't change it! For instance, only yesterday I found a marriage where one party's surname was given as DOWNEI. I knew for a fact from the censuses that the name should have been DOWNIE but it clearly been mistranscribed by a GRO clerk in the 1850s. In genealogy, an error in the original source is NOT a transcription error, so there was no point in my sending a correction. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

On 16 Mar 2010 at 15:22, Roy Stockdill wrote: > On 16 Mar 2010 at 9:32, Jayne England wrote: > > > > > Dear list members, I am new to this list and hoping someone can > > advise me. I am researching a family tale that suggests there is > > a distant family connection to this well known Leeds chef. The > > story goes on to say the connection arises through MPW's paternal > > line - the WHITE family. I have a copy of the marriage cert for > > MPW's parents and therein lies my problem. Marco's father was > > named Frank WHITE, the son of Frank WHITE according to his > > marriage cert. His age given on marriage would suggest the year > > of birth as 1927. I have contacted Leeds Register Office and they > > have searched for the birth of a Frank White, with father named > > Frank +/- 2 years either side of 1927 and come up with TWO > > options. Both born in Leeds and both in 1927. So now I am stumped > > as to which one is the correct set of parents! I also do not know > > the names if any, of siblings to MWP's father, so can't even work > > out who the parents were via his siblings. I have tried a search > > of google etc but cannot find anything that shows the > > genealogical "tree" of this celebrity, so if anyone could point > > me in the right direction, or can advise me on how to > > differentiate between the two sets of parents, I would be pleased > > to hear from you. I live in the West Country, so do not have > > access to local archives, libraries etc in Yorkshire, so any > > searching I need to do has to be done remotely. Thank you! Jayne > > > > > Are you sure the Leeds Register Office have given you the correct > information? > > I have checked FreeBMD, as well as the GRO Indexes at Findmypast and > they have only ONE Frank White born in a Leeds Registration District > in 1927 - in the June quarter at Hunslet, vol 9b page 723, mother's > maiden name LEE. So unless there was another Frank White whose birth > record never made it to the GRO (or there is a Whire with Frank as a > middle name) that would seem to be the one. > > If you go to the marriages indexes of YorkshireBMD at: > > http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi > > you will find a marriage for Frank WHITE and Nellie LEE at Holbeck > Registered Building in 1922. There is a link to download the > certificate. Yorkshire BMD is the website for indexes from the local > register offices, not the GRO. The marriage doesn't yet seem to appear > at FreeBMD but I found it in the GRO indexes at Findmypast in the Sep > quarter of 1922 at Holbeck (another Leeds registration district), vol > 9b page 1482). There are a number of Whites with the mother's maiden > name, Lee, born in the Leeds area between 1923 and 1934 but because > both names are so common it's quite possible there was another > White-Lee couple. You can find the other children with FreeBMD. > Further to my previous message, who were the witnesses of the marriage? That can often give a strong clue. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Thank you for such interesting info Roy. The witnesses to the marriage of MWP's parents were (unhelpfully!) G. STODART & J. YOUNG. The grooms father's occupation is given as "Gas works canteen manager". Groom's residence is given as Brearly Street, Leeds 9. I am waiting for the two copy birth certs to arrive, although the person who telephoned me back to confirm the certs before issuing them did mention that the occupation of the father on the one with mother's maiden surname LEE, is given as "hotel chef". This would tie in with what I have read the MWP's father and grandfather were also chefs, although of course I cannot assume anything until seeing both certs. I was not previously aware of Yorkshire BMD's site, so have checked the link you provided and sadly the marri! age cert for the WHITE / LEE couple is not available for download, so I will maybe order that once I have the births certs, as I admit that is the couple who are looking most likely to me at the moment. I am also wondering if perhaps a "hotel chef" registering his son's birth in 1927 may turn to being a canteen manager later in life by the time his son got married in 1954? It's not a million miles away in terms of occupation - or is it? Jayne ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [WRY] Marco Pierre WHITE Date : Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:47:23 -0000 From : "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> To : <[email protected]> On 16 Mar 2010 at 15:27, Steve Bamford wrote: > Jayne, > > Do you have any other details on the marriage certificate, e.g. > father's occupation, witnesses (who are often siblings or other > relatives) - these might give you clues that could help you pin down > the father.

Jayne, Do you have any other details on the marriage certificate, e.g. father's occupation, witnesses (who are often siblings or other relatives) - these might give you clues that could help you pin down the father. FreeBMD is a very useful resource if you're not familiar with it (http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl). The only Frank White I could find there in 1927 in the Leeds area is one born in Hunslet (which is now a suburb of Leeds but formerly a separate district) in April-June 1927. Assuming the age given on the marriage certificate is accurate, this is most likely your man (though of course you can never be sure of anything in genealogy - e.g. he could have moved to Leeds from somewhere else). It also gives his mother's maiden name (Lee) so you can trace the marriage too from FreeBMD. In fact the FreeBMD entry for this is misleading - it gives a marriage of Frank White to someone called Lee in "Holbeach", July-Sept 1922, but there is no matching entry for the spouse. However I checked with Ancestry and it gives a marriage in the same period to "White" in Holbeck, which does make sense as Holbeck is also south of Leeds, near Hunslet, so it looks as if the entry for Frank White has been mis-transcribed (Holbeach is quite a way from Leeds, in Lincolnshire). You can send off for the relevant certificates directly to the GRO online, using the references in FreeBMD - they've just put the price up to £9. (My apologies if you already know all this - I gather you're new to the list but I don't know if this also means you're new to genealogy!). If you want to contact me off-list I'd be happy to assist further. Best wishes Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jayne England Sent: 16 March 2010 13:33 To: [email protected] Subject: [WRY] Marco Pierre WHITE Dear list members, I am new to this list and hoping someone can advise me. I am researching a family tale that suggests there is a distant family connection to this well known Leeds chef. The story goes on to say the connection arises through MPW's paternal line - the WHITE family. I have a copy of the marriage cert for MPW's parents and therein lies my problem. Marco's father was named Frank WHITE, the son of Frank WHITE according to his marriage cert. His age given on marriage would suggest the year of birth as 1927. I have contacted Leeds Register Office and they have searched for the birth of a Frank White, with father named Frank +/- 2 years either side of 1927 and come up with TWO options. Both born in Leeds and both in 1927. So now I am stumped as to which one is the correct set of parents! I also do not know the names if any, of siblings to MWP's father, so can't even work out who the parents were via his siblings. I have tried a search of google etc but cannot find anything that shows the genealogical "tree" of this celebrity, so if anyone could point me in the right direction, or can advise me on how to differentiate between the two sets of parents, I would be pleased to hear from you. I live in the West Country, so do not have access to local archives, libraries etc in Yorkshire, so any searching I need to do has to be done remotely. Thank you! Jayne Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 16 Mar 2010 at 9:32, Jayne England wrote: > > Dear list members, I am new to this list and hoping someone can > advise me. I am researching a family tale that suggests there is a > distant family connection to this well known Leeds chef. The story > goes on to say the connection arises through MPW's paternal line - > the WHITE family. I have a copy of the marriage cert for MPW's > parents and therein lies my problem. Marco's father was named Frank > WHITE, the son of Frank WHITE according to his marriage cert. His > age given on marriage would suggest the year of birth as 1927. I > have contacted Leeds Register Office and they have searched for the > birth of a Frank White, with father named Frank +/- 2 years either > side of 1927 and come up with TWO options. Both born in Leeds and > both in 1927. So now I am stumped as to which one is the correct > set of parents! I also do not know the names if any, of siblings to > MWP's father, so can't even work out who the parents were via his > siblings. I have tried a search of google etc but cannot find > anything that shows the genealogical "tree" of this celebrity, so > if anyone could point me in the right direction, or can advise me > on how to differentiate between the two sets of parents, I would be > pleased to hear from you. I live in the West Country, so do not > have access to local archives, libraries etc in Yorkshire, so any > searching I need to do has to be done remotely. Thank you! Jayne > Are you sure the Leeds Register Office have given you the correct information? I have checked FreeBMD, as well as the GRO Indexes at Findmypast and they have only ONE Frank White born in a Leeds Registration District in 1927 - in the June quarter at Hunslet, vol 9b page 723, mother's maiden name LEE. So unless there was another Frank White whose birth record never made it to the GRO (or there is a Whire with Frank as a middle name) that would seem to be the one. If you go to the marriages indexes of YorkshireBMD at: http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi you will find a marriage for Frank WHITE and Nellie LEE at Holbeck Registered Building in 1922. There is a link to download the certificate. Yorkshire BMD is the website for indexes from the local register offices, not the GRO. The marriage doesn't yet seem to appear at FreeBMD but I found it in the GRO indexes at Findmypast in the Sep quarter of 1922 at Holbeck (another Leeds registration district), vol 9b page 1482). There are a number of Whites with the mother's maiden name, Lee, born in the Leeds area between 1923 and 1934 but because both names are so common it's quite possible there was another White-Lee couple. You can find the other children with FreeBMD. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello Maggie, maybe something on these websites could help you, at least what area looked/s like: http://www.francisfrith.com/halifax/photos/ http://www.geograph.org.uk/ http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/ http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/Portfolio.htm good luck, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:38 Subject: [WRY] Halifax Churches Does anyone know if there is a book about the churches of Halifax? I have ried Genuki but it doesn't give me histories, and I'm particularly nterested to find all the churches in the Ovenden - Northowram - Shelf area, nd hen they opened for business. I need to start some serious investigation nto burial places for my family, and don't have a clue which churches they sed. hanks! aggie

Does anyone know if there is a book about the churches of Halifax? I have tried Genuki but it doesn't give me histories, and I'm particularly interested to find all the churches in the Ovenden - Northowram - Shelf area, and when they opened for business. I need to start some serious investigation into burial places for my family, and don't have a clue which churches they used. thanks! Maggie

You could google Hugh Wallis, Jean. He gives entries from the IGI grouped into (and searchable by) parish batch numbers, but only the "proper" batch numbers begining with a letter. So there can always be more in those informal batches, only accessible (as far as I know) via the IGI. good luck! Maggie Would you know if there is a web-site for the IGI batch numbers?

On 16 Mar 2010 at 7:25, janet thomas wrote: > I am late in thanking those who responded to my question on Mollie > Sugden's family history. My attention was on vacation last week. > > Thanks to all who responded to my query. I plan on following up to > confirm some of the biographical information that listers have sent. > My curiosity is piqued, particularly on behalf of my year old great > niece, the very charming Mollie Sugden. > > Janet Sugden Thomas > Until I looked her up with Google, I didn't realise that Mollie Sugden's mother was a Shackleton from Keighley. I too descend from the Keighley Shackletons, along with Sir Ernest Shackleton, the Antarctic explorer, so we were probably distantly related. Mind you, Shackletons at Keighley were so prolific it's unlikely I shall ever be able to make the connection! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Dear list members, I am new to this list and hoping someone can advise me. I am researching a family tale that suggests there is a distant family connection to this well known Leeds chef. The story goes on to say the connection arises through MPW's paternal line - the WHITE family. I have a copy of the marriage cert for MPW's parents and therein lies my problem. Marco's father was named Frank WHITE, the son of Frank WHITE according to his marriage cert. His age given on marriage would suggest the year of birth as 1927. I have contacted Leeds Register Office and they have searched for the birth of a Frank White, with father named Frank +/- 2 years either side of 1927 and come up with TWO options. Both born in Leeds and both in 1927. So now I am stumped as to which one is the correct set of parents! I also do not know the names if any, of siblings to MWP's father, so can't even work out who the parents were via his siblings. I have tried a search of google etc but cannot find anything that shows the genealogical "tree" of this celebrity, so if anyone could point me in the right direction, or can advise me on how to differentiate between the two sets of parents, I would be pleased to hear from you. I live in the West Country, so do not have access to local archives, libraries etc in Yorkshire, so any searching I need to do has to be done remotely. Thank you! Jayne

I am late in thanking those who responded to my question on Mollie Sugden's family history. My attention was on vacation last week. Thanks to all who responded to my query. I plan on following up to confirm some of the biographical information that listers have sent. My curiosity is piqued, particularly on behalf of my year old great niece, the very charming Mollie Sugden. Janet Sugden Thomas

It's not really a full street view if you are looking for a side street in a small town in the U.S. In my town, it works for Main Street and one other. These streets are yellow. Sad to say, the little orange man has no effect at all on the white streets. Mary, in a small town in Wisconsin, USA

Hi, Thanks, that's near enough. I am going to try to get a Death certificate so the more info I have the better. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] When was Easter 1927 > Hello Folks > > Easter Day was 17th April in 1927. > > Cheers > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of jean and terry > Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WRY] When was Easter 1927 > > > I asked my Dad if he knew when his mother's birthday and month was and > when > she died. He is going to look it up next time he is in the library but he > said that she died Easter 1927. Her name was Annie (Schofield) Wood born > Longwood living at Mol and Dad was only 7. She was 37 he said. She lived > at Lindley prior to her marriage and is buried there. I think I might > have > to send for her death certificate as I would like to know what she died > of. > It could be relevant. Jean in S. Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don't know what happened to my words. She and her husband were living at 78 School Street, Moldgreen when she died.. Dad is in Huddersfield and does some kind of duty at least once a month so it shouldn't be too hard for him. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean and terry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] When was Easter 1927 >I asked my Dad if he knew when his mother's birthday and month was and when > she died. He is going to look it up next time he is in the library but he > said that she died Easter 1927. Her name was Annie (Schofield) Wood born > Longwood living at Mol and Dad was only 7. She was 37 he said. She lived > at Lindley prior to her marriage and is buried there. I think I might > have > to send for her death certificate as I would like to know what she died > of. > It could be relevant. Jean in S. Australia. > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Folks Easter Day was 17th April in 1927. Cheers Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of jean and terry Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WRY] When was Easter 1927 I asked my Dad if he knew when his mother's birthday and month was and when she died. He is going to look it up next time he is in the library but he said that she died Easter 1927. Her name was Annie (Schofield) Wood born Longwood living at Mol and Dad was only 7. She was 37 he said. She lived at Lindley prior to her marriage and is buried there. I think I might have to send for her death certificate as I would like to know what she died of. It could be relevant. Jean in S. Australia. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I asked my Dad if he knew when his mother's birthday and month was and when she died. He is going to look it up next time he is in the library but he said that she died Easter 1927. Her name was Annie (Schofield) Wood born Longwood living at Mol and Dad was only 7. She was 37 he said. She lived at Lindley prior to her marriage and is buried there. I think I might have to send for her death certificate as I would like to know what she died of. It could be relevant. Jean in S. Australia.

Hi Jean, There are over twenty LEAKS on the 1851 Bentham Registrars District. There is no Richard b. abt. 1782 only one b. 1837 (Yks Westhouse), son of Thomas b. 1811, LAN Wittington. I note that some of the siblings of the above Richard were b. in LANCS, Docker & Dalton. Some of the LEAKS were neighbours of my TEMPEST, if you find a link I can send you some digipics of the dwellings. Bentham is quite close to Clapham, although none of the listed LEAKS have this recorded as their birthplace, if you don't have these details I would be happy to send them if you wish. Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire N.B. There are 8 LEECH, all b. Clapham, plus 4 LEACH 1 b. LAN Preston, 1 b. LAN Hawkshead rest b. either Slaidburn or Thorton-in-Lonsdale.

On 15 Mar 2010 at 12:34, JEAN SPENCER wrote: > I am new to the list and am specifically searching for information on > my gt.gt.gt. grandfather Richard LEAK who was born circa 1782 in > Clapham, Yorkshire. > > According to the parish registers of St. Mary's, Lancaster, he married > Elizabeth Croasdale there in September 1808.  Subsequent census > information give his place of birth as Clapham, Yorkshire.  I have > been unable to find a baptism for him on-line and would be interested > in hearing from anyone with information or connections. > Pardon me for asking, Jean, but do the Lancaster registers specifically state he was of the parish of Clapham, Yorkshire? Presumably they must, otherwise can you be sure you have the right man? The IGI has a Richard Leak baptised at Bentham (High and Low Bentham are fairly close to Clapham) on 29 Mar 1778, son of John and Mary Leak, and another Richard Leak baptised at Giggleswick (again, not that far away) on 17 Mar 1782, son of Margaret Leak, no father given so presumably illegitimate. You cannot rely too much on ages in the early censuses, especially of people born that long before civil registration came in in 1837. Very often they didn't know exactly how old they were of where they'd been born! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi, I am new to the list and am specifically searching for information on my gt.gt.gt. grandfather Richard LEAK who was born circa 1782 in Clapham, Yorkshire. According to the parish registers of St. Mary's, Lancaster, he married Elizabeth Croasdale there in September 1808.  Subsequent census information give his place of birth as Clapham, Yorkshire.  I have been unable to find a baptism for him on-line and would be interested in hearing from anyone with information or connections. Jean Spencer From over the Pennines