Even the images won't help in many cases if you are not familiar with an area, as in a previous message Ancestry have made a great big mess, a register listed as Wakefield Christchurch starting 1654-1790 is actually Castleford, All Saints there are no indications on the page as to the church name and the WYAS reference has been cut of the bottom. Only someone familiar with the place names of Castleford & Houghton would know that it is not WAKEFIELD. There are many more like this, where the images are linked to the wrong parishes. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: maggiemole@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:10 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries I'm not sure it's Ancestry's fault. I checked out the example Gordon Dyson gives below, and the entry is indexed twice, once under St Peter's Sowerby and once under St John's Royston. So you can find the real information - even the indexation of the Royston one says Sowerby. BUT the Sowerby set of images is 5 pages long, and is all from Sowerby. The Royston set is 10 pages long, and changes to Sowerby at page 7. So someone has provided a set which is already muddled. To make things more diffcult to understand, the WYAS labelling at the foot of the image disappears at page 7, so I can't tell what the labelling is for the Sowerby pages. Two things are clear to me: we should ask Wakefield what they think has happened. And we should always use the images not the record. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Buchanan <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:17 Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries Ancestry have made a complete shambles of the West yorkshire registers. EG. If you browse for records of Kippax St Mary, the records you get are actually Kirk Deighton. Castleford St Johns is listed as having burials 1888-1904, the church never had any burial registers and didn't open until 1905, the records listed under this church are actually Castleford All Saints. Registers listed as Wakefield Christchurch pre 1813 are actually a mixture of early Castleford registers and Pontefract St Giles. So your duplicate baptisms could be the same images listed as 2 different churches they don't seem to have a clue what they are doing. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk --- On Wed, 6/7/11, gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> wrote: From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 6 July, 2011, 20:15 I have just one Baptism at Sowerby St.Peter's in the 1720s/30s, period. Perhaps if you would like to check this, it may tell you if the Parish Register Ancestry gave, i.e. - Sowerby or Royston ?? Sowerby St. Peter's Thomas COOPER, bapt. 25 Jan 1733, son of Robert. Regards, Gordon. On 6 July 2011 04:47, <lists@post.com> wrote: > In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct place of the events? > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think there was a time when parents were charged a small fee to have children baptized, so many poor parents just didn't have it done. Later, when that fee was cancelled, they had the lot done at once. Not sure though, of the time period when this happened. Just a suggestion.. S.G.Stubbs On 7/07/2011 4:12 AM, Pamela Caldwell wrote: > Multiple christenings took place. Five of my grandfather's siblings were > christened on the same day. People often led chaotic lives and because of > cost or lack of organisation would delay. Pressure from the vicar would > possibly contribute too. > > Pam Caldwell > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Scaife"<lynnescaife@yahoo.com> > To:<WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:36 PM > Subject: [WRY] Double christening entries > > > Hi there > > I have seen the same thing too. > > I have also seen what appear to be twins, definately from the same parents, > one bapt. 10 days after the other in 1813. > > Possibilities: > > 1. They were twins but one twin was baptised on the intended day, but the > other twin perhaps wasn't well and was baptiased seperately afterwards. > > 2. They were not twins, one was born the year before, and for whatever > reason, the baptism didn't take place when intended. (Although highly > unlikely I think). > > Can any one think of any other reason? > > Thanks > Lynne > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ancestry have made a complete shambles of the West yorkshire registers. EG. If you browse for records of Kippax St Mary, the records you get are actually Kirk Deighton. Castleford St Johns is listed as having burials 1888-1904, the church never had any burial registers and didn't open until 1905, the records listed under this church are actually Castleford All Saints. Registers listed as Wakefield Christchurch pre 1813 are actually a mixture of early Castleford registers and Pontefract St Giles. So your duplicate baptisms could be the same images listed as 2 different churches they don't seem to have a clue what they are doing. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk --- On Wed, 6/7/11, gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> wrote: From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 6 July, 2011, 20:15 I have just one Baptism at Sowerby St.Peter's in the 1720s/30s, period. Perhaps if you would like to check this, it may tell you if the Parish Register Ancestry gave,  i.e. - Sowerby or Royston ?? Sowerby St. Peter's Thomas COOPER, bapt. 25 Jan 1733, son of Robert. Regards, Gordon. On 6 July 2011 04:47,  <lists@post.com> wrote: > In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct place of the events? > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not sure it's Ancestry's fault. I checked out the example Gordon Dyson gives below, and the entry is indexed twice, once under St Peter's Sowerby and once under St John's Royston. So you can find the real information - even the indexation of the Royston one says Sowerby. BUT the Sowerby set of images is 5 pages long, and is all from Sowerby. The Royston set is 10 pages long, and changes to Sowerby at page 7. So someone has provided a set which is already muddled. To make things more diffcult to understand, the WYAS labelling at the foot of the image disappears at page 7, so I can't tell what the labelling is for the Sowerby pages. Two things are clear to me: we should ask Wakefield what they think has happened. And we should always use the images not the record. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Buchanan <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:17 Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries Ancestry have made a complete shambles of the West yorkshire registers. EG. If you browse for records of Kippax St Mary, the records you get are actually Kirk Deighton. Castleford St Johns is listed as having burials 1888-1904, the church never had any burial registers and didn't open until 1905, the records listed under this church are actually Castleford All Saints. Registers listed as Wakefield Christchurch pre 1813 are actually a mixture of early Castleford registers and Pontefract St Giles. So your duplicate baptisms could be the same images listed as 2 different churches they don't seem to have a clue what they are doing. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk --- On Wed, 6/7/11, gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> wrote: From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] Double Christening Entries To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 6 July, 2011, 20:15 I have just one Baptism at Sowerby St.Peter's in the 1720s/30s, period. Perhaps if you would like to check this, it may tell you if the Parish Register Ancestry gave, i.e. - Sowerby or Royston ?? Sowerby St. Peter's Thomas COOPER, bapt. 25 Jan 1733, son of Robert. Regards, Gordon. On 6 July 2011 04:47, <lists@post.com> wrote: > In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct place of the events? > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There must be a way of getting in touch with them to tell them of their mistake then if it is all over Britain. I will go on familysearch and see if I can find a way. Barbara -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pat Cook" <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:31 PM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WRY] Double christening entries > > The Bristol and Somerset List has the same problem. > > They have two parishes that are not adoining, but the latest IGI has > totally confused the two parishes, and giving completely wrong > information. > > I am struggling to sort out entries myself, in fact I think that more > muddled parishes are coming to light. > Pat, in Grimsby, Lincs > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Bristol and Somerset List has the same problem. They have two parishes that are not adoining, but the latest IGI has totally confused the two parishes, and giving completely wrong information. I am struggling to sort out entries myself, in fact I think that more muddled parishes are coming to light. Pat, in Grimsby, Lincs

I have just one Baptism at Sowerby St.Peter's in the 1720s/30s, period. Perhaps if you would like to check this, it may tell you if the Parish Register Ancestry gave, i.e. - Sowerby or Royston ?? Sowerby St. Peter's Thomas COOPER, bapt. 25 Jan 1733, son of Robert. Regards, Gordon. On 6 July 2011 04:47, <lists@post.com> wrote: > In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct place of the events? > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have seen one where 9 children in the family were all baptised on the same day. Think it was either yeadon or Guiseley Alan -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Pamela Caldwell Sent: 06 July 2011 19:13 To: Lynne Scaife; west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] Double christening entries Multiple christenings took place. Five of my grandfather's siblings were christened on the same day. People often led chaotic lives and because of cost or lack of organisation would delay. Pressure from the vicar would possibly contribute too. Pam Caldwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Scaife" <lynnescaife@yahoo.com> To: <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: [WRY] Double christening entries Hi there I have seen the same thing too. I have also seen what appear to be twins, definately from the same parents, one bapt. 10 days after the other in 1813. Possibilities: 1. They were twins but one twin was baptised on the intended day, but the other twin perhaps wasn't well and was baptiased seperately afterwards. 2. They were not twins, one was born the year before, and for whatever reason, the baptism didn't take place when intended. (Although highly unlikely I think). Can any one think of any other reason? Thanks Lynne Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Multiple christenings took place. Five of my grandfather's siblings were christened on the same day. People often led chaotic lives and because of cost or lack of organisation would delay. Pressure from the vicar would possibly contribute too. Pam Caldwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Scaife" <lynnescaife@yahoo.com> To: <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: [WRY] Double christening entries Hi there I have seen the same thing too. I have also seen what appear to be twins, definately from the same parents, one bapt. 10 days after the other in 1813. Possibilities: 1. They were twins but one twin was baptised on the intended day, but the other twin perhaps wasn't well and was baptiased seperately afterwards. 2. They were not twins, one was born the year before, and for whatever reason, the baptism didn't take place when intended. (Although highly unlikely I think). Can any one think of any other reason? Thanks Lynne Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there   I have seen the same thing too.   I have also seen what appear to be twins, definately from the same parents, one bapt. 10 days after the other in 1813.   Possibilities:   1.  They were twins but one twin was baptised on the intended day, but the other twin perhaps wasn't well and was baptiased seperately afterwards.   2.  They were not twins, one was born the year before, and for whatever reason, the baptism didn't take place when intended.  (Although highly unlikely I think).   Can any one think of any other reason?   Thanks Lynne

I have found the same in the Borders of Scotland. Linton and Lilliesleaf seem to be duplicated for the very early baptisms. Sounds like exactly the same problem so please reply to the list if you know the answer. It doesn't make a lot of sense and I am wondering if it is a mistake. Barbara -------------------------------------------------- From: <lists@post.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:47 AM To: <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WRY] Double Christening Entries > > In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though > there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and > 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. > John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate > churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each > other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct > place of the events? > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just saw one in the London registers on Ancestry [St. Michael Bassishaw] that duplicated the same parish. The handwriting was different and the entries were arranged differently on the pages so it wasn't a matter of two copies nor of BTs. I thought I was seeing things. Ironically, on one of them the mother's name Judith was crossed out and a different name, Elizabeth, written in [which didn't help either as the father had wives with both names]. Otherwise, the dates were identical. Liane

In the Parish Registers recently appearing on Ancestry, it seems as though there are literally dozens of Christening entries throughout the 1720s and 1730s which are exactly duplicated under both St. Peter's, Sowerby and St. John's, Royston. Can anyone suggest what, if anything, these two separate churches in two distinct Parishes could possibly have had to do with each other's records, and which of them would have been the actual and correct place of the events?

Hi Gordon and all who replied so helpfully, Many thanks for all your inputs, I've sent the image on to Gordon separately, but some of you found it.One suggestion is that Nanny's middle name is Hils - it does read like that, and I wonder if anyone has come across this as a female name before? I haven't, except as a nickname for Hilary. I love the birth suggestion you give below, Gordon. Previously I had found one in Illingworth five years later, same father, and was wondering if this could be a late baptism. The answer is clearly yes! I do wonder whether they thought the first one hadn't "taken". Nanny and John only had 2 known children, but her son had a son he named Nathan, so to me this is pretty good evidence the suggestion is right. I continue to wonder about John Thomas "Junr", despite most people reading it as that. My reservation is not because it was only an American usage: it was common in England too where father and son had the same name and both were alive together. But it wasn't part of the name as it is in the US, just a handy extra label when dealing with officials. No, it's because the only birth record I find for John is to a father William, and this implies there would have been no need for the label. Does the first letter look like the J in John? I can't be sure. Any additional thoughts are welcome! Thank you all so much for your help Maggie -----Original Message----- From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:36 Subject: Re: [WRY] Halifax fiche marriages 'ello, Maggie, I have Fiche for this period ........ However, the date for record 558 is 20th AUGUST 1822 (Not October) and notes are given are : The name is John Thomas, but in the signature, it seems to say John Thomas "Jun" There is NO middle name listed for Nanny Isles, but a "note" gives the info. that this is the only record in this volume, where the Bride is not shown as either Spinster or Widow. In my IGI, there is a Baptism of a Nancy ISLES, d/o Nathan ISLES, 12 Mar 1797 at Halifax Square Chapel. Regards, Gordon. On 4 July 2011 20:02, <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a fiche copy of the Halifax St John's marriage register? I'm looking at page 186, October 20th 1822, and a marriage between John Thomas and Nanny xxxx Isles both of Ovenden. Nanny signs rather than makes a mark and includes in her signature a middle name, which I cannot make out (I've been using the new Ancestry West Yorkshire Parish Records). I'm hoping the fiche will make it a little clearer than the online image. Can anyone help, please? > Many thanks - Maggie > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maggie Just magnifying the ancestry page it might be Hils. Jun would be American surely. Could they really be using that at that time in England? Pam

Maggie, Do you think it could be Nanny (Nancy) Isles ? Gordon. On 5 July 2011 08:21, <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: > > > >  Hi, Gordon, You're absolutely right about August - sorry about that. And it does say soething like Junr but I don't know that I'm convinced yet. However, > a) the banns entry 1645 shows Nanny as a spinster > b) there really is a middle word in her name, I can see it. I'll send the image from ancestry this evening, in a rush today to get to the probate office. > > many thanks > Maggie > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:36 > Subject: Re: [WRY] Halifax fiche marriages > > > 'ello, Maggie, > > I have Fiche for this period ........   However, the date for record > 558 is 20th AUGUST 1822 (Not October) and notes are given are : > > The name is John Thomas, but in the signature, it seems to say John Thomas "Jun" > > There is NO middle name listed for Nanny Isles, but a "note" gives the > info. that this is the only record in this volume, where the Bride is > not shown as either Spinster or Widow. > > In my IGI, there is a Baptism of a Nancy ISLES, d/o Nathan ISLES, 12 > Mar 1797 at Halifax Square Chapel. > > Regards, > > Gordon. > > > > On 4 July 2011 20:02,  <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>  Does anyone have a fiche copy of the Halifax St John's marriage register? I'm > looking at page 186, October 20th 1822, and a marriage between John Thomas and > Nanny xxxx Isles both of Ovenden. Nanny signs rather than makes a mark and > includes in her signature a middle name, which I cannot make out (I've been > using the new Ancestry West Yorkshire Parish Records). I'm hoping the fiche will > make it a little clearer than the online image. Can anyone help, please? >> Many thanks - Maggie >> >> >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message >> > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Maggie, There really is a middle word in her name and to me it looks like Hils. And it does look like Jun r. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <maggiemole@aol.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Halifax fiche marriages Hi, Gordon, You're absolutely right about August - sorry about that. And it does say soething like Junr but I don't know that I'm convinced yet. However, a) the banns entry 1645 shows Nanny as a spinster b) there really is a middle word in her name, I can see it. I'll send the image from ancestry this evening, in a rush today to get to the probate office. many thanks Maggie

Hi, Gordon, You're absolutely right about August - sorry about that. And it does say soething like Junr but I don't know that I'm convinced yet. However, a) the banns entry 1645 shows Nanny as a spinster b) there really is a middle word in her name, I can see it. I'll send the image from ancestry this evening, in a rush today to get to the probate office. many thanks Maggie -----Original Message----- From: gordon dyson <gordon.dyson@gmail.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:36 Subject: Re: [WRY] Halifax fiche marriages 'ello, Maggie, I have Fiche for this period ........ However, the date for record 558 is 20th AUGUST 1822 (Not October) and notes are given are : The name is John Thomas, but in the signature, it seems to say John Thomas "Jun" There is NO middle name listed for Nanny Isles, but a "note" gives the info. that this is the only record in this volume, where the Bride is not shown as either Spinster or Widow. In my IGI, there is a Baptism of a Nancy ISLES, d/o Nathan ISLES, 12 Mar 1797 at Halifax Square Chapel. Regards, Gordon. On 4 July 2011 20:02, <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a fiche copy of the Halifax St John's marriage register? I'm looking at page 186, October 20th 1822, and a marriage between John Thomas and Nanny xxxx Isles both of Ovenden. Nanny signs rather than makes a mark and includes in her signature a middle name, which I cannot make out (I've been using the new Ancestry West Yorkshire Parish Records). I'm hoping the fiche will make it a little clearer than the online image. Can anyone help, please? > Many thanks - Maggie > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maggie, Again, from IGI, it looks as if Nathan ISLES, married Elizabeth MIDGLEY. 19 May 1790 at Halifac P.C. Gordon.

'ello, Maggie, I have Fiche for this period ........ However, the date for record 558 is 20th AUGUST 1822 (Not October) and notes are given are : The name is John Thomas, but in the signature, it seems to say John Thomas "Jun" There is NO middle name listed for Nanny Isles, but a "note" gives the info. that this is the only record in this volume, where the Bride is not shown as either Spinster or Widow. In my IGI, there is a Baptism of a Nancy ISLES, d/o Nathan ISLES, 12 Mar 1797 at Halifax Square Chapel. Regards, Gordon. On 4 July 2011 20:02, <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: > > > >  Does anyone have a fiche copy of the Halifax St John's marriage register? I'm looking at page 186, October 20th 1822, and a marriage between John Thomas and Nanny xxxx Isles both of Ovenden. Nanny signs rather than makes a mark and includes in her signature a middle name, which I cannot make out (I've been using the new Ancestry West Yorkshire Parish Records). I'm hoping the fiche will make it a little clearer than the online image. Can anyone help, please? > Many thanks - Maggie > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >