Barbara, Computers can crash in different ways depending on the problem. If a hard disk 'goes' it often, but not always, gives a warning -- strange sounds and intermittent errors -- at best. If a cpu stops working -- it just stops and stares back with a blank screen without blinking. If a memory chip goes bad, you will get failures and faults and error messages. Sometimes your operating system goes bad -- that is the easiest. You can reload your operating system. The bottom line is you know you've crashed because it just stops doing what it does so well -- work. If your hard disk stops working you probably, but not always, have lost all your data -- unless you back up, back up, back up. Not just one back up disk, but several backed up on a rotating basis. Some folks use zip drives because they hold more. I now use CD-R disks -- it just take a few minutes to back everything up on a couple of CD roms. I also am attached to a network here at home and another at work. So periodically (once a week), I move files to another computer on each network. Each week I have my updated files on CD disks and two computers in separate cities. Am I paranoid? Oh, yes. I had a computer crash on me -- a hard drive went bad with little warning. And that (for me) is the short answer. Allen Rev. E. Allen Siebold Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry Pastor: The United Methodist Church 3rd Ave at 116th St. Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) 3rd Ave at 115th St Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA www.gbgm-umc.org/lansingburgh [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > Hello all: > > Myra wrote that her computer crashed and this got me to wondering what > actually happens when this event occurs. > > What are the symptoms? > > What happens to all your saved files and your family database? > > What do you do to correct it or to recover from the crash? > > I keep my family database updated on disk, in case my machine crashes, but > I've never understood what the term means or what actually happens. > > Enlightenment, anyone? > > Barb in Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Myra Chambers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Photo Found !! > > Joe, > > I am also glad you found the missing photo. I had originally submitted > the photo, but lost it when my computer crashed. My scanner wont work with > my new 'puter, so I couldn't send it again until I buy a new scanner. Of > course, I still have the photo. > > Myra > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > >

Allen: You are indeed a fountain of info. Thank you for taking the time to explain it so well and so fully. You have succeeded in scaring me to death....and right into the computer store for a CD burner. Your message should be published on every group. Grateful Barb in Ottawa, Ontario. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Siebold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > Barbara, > Computers can crash in different ways depending on the problem. If a hard > disk 'goes' it often, but not always, gives a warning -- strange sounds and > intermittent errors -- at best. > > If a cpu stops working -- it just stops and stares back with a blank screen > without blinking. > > If a memory chip goes bad, you will get failures and faults and error > messages. > > Sometimes your operating system goes bad -- that is the easiest. You can > reload your operating system. > > The bottom line is you know you've crashed because it just stops doing what > it does so well -- work. > > If your hard disk stops working you probably, but not always, have lost all > your data -- unless you back up, back up, back up. Not just one back up > disk, but several backed up on a rotating basis. Some folks use zip drives > because they hold more. I now use CD-R disks -- it just take a few minutes > to back everything up on a couple of CD roms. I also am attached to a > network here at home and another at work. So periodically (once a week), I > move files to another computer on each network. Each week I have my updated > files on CD disks and two computers in separate cities. Am I paranoid? Oh, > yes. I had a computer crash on me -- a hard drive went bad with little > warning. > > And that (for me) is the short answer. > > Allen > Rev. E. Allen Siebold > Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry > Pastor: The United Methodist Church > 3rd Ave at 116th St. > Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) > 3rd Ave at 115th St > Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:19 PM > Subject: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > Hello all: > > > > Myra wrote that her computer crashed and this got me to wondering what > > actually happens when this event occurs. > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > What happens to all your saved files and your family database? > > > > What do you do to correct it or to recover from the crash? > > > > I keep my family database updated on disk, in case my machine crashes, but > > I've never understood what the term means or what actually happens. > > > > Enlightenment, anyone? > > > > Barb in Ottawa

Dear Barb, I didn't mean to scare you. I've been computing since the early 70's or so and have had only 1 true failure (I've had 2 'stupid' failures directly attributable to my own actions) in all that time over many, many, computers. When it does happen however, you will remember it. It's always nice to protect yourself . . . at least that's what I learned long ago on the school bus :)> Allen Rev. E. Allen Siebold Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry Pastor: The United Methodist Church 3rd Ave at 116th St. Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) 3rd Ave at 115th St Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA www.gbgm-umc.org/lansingburgh [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > Allen: You are indeed a fountain of info. Thank you for taking the time to > explain it so well and so fully. You have succeeded in scaring me to > death....and right into the computer store for a CD burner. > > Your message should be published on every group. > > Grateful Barb in Ottawa, Ontario. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen Siebold" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > > Barbara, > > Computers can crash in different ways depending on the problem. If a hard > > disk 'goes' it often, but not always, gives a warning -- strange sounds > and > > intermittent errors -- at best. > > > > If a cpu stops working -- it just stops and stares back with a blank > screen > > without blinking. > > > > If a memory chip goes bad, you will get failures and faults and error > > messages. > > > > Sometimes your operating system goes bad -- that is the easiest. You can > > reload your operating system. > > > > The bottom line is you know you've crashed because it just stops doing > what > > it does so well -- work. > > > > If your hard disk stops working you probably, but not always, have lost > all > > your data -- unless you back up, back up, back up. Not just one back up > > disk, but several backed up on a rotating basis. Some folks use zip drives > > because they hold more. I now use CD-R disks -- it just take a few minutes > > to back everything up on a couple of CD roms. I also am attached to a > > network here at home and another at work. So periodically (once a week), I > > move files to another computer on each network. Each week I have my > updated > > files on CD disks and two computers in separate cities. Am I paranoid? Oh, > > yes. I had a computer crash on me -- a hard drive went bad with little > > warning. > > > > And that (for me) is the short answer. > > > > Allen > > Rev. E. Allen Siebold > > Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry > > Pastor: The United Methodist Church > > 3rd Ave at 116th St. > > Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) > > 3rd Ave at 115th St > > Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara" > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:19 PM > > Subject: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > > > Hello all: > > > > > > Myra wrote that her computer crashed and this got me to wondering what > > > actually happens when this event occurs. > > > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > > > What happens to all your saved files and your family database? > > > > > > What do you do to correct it or to recover from the crash? > > > > > > I keep my family database updated on disk, in case my machine crashes, > but > > > I've never understood what the term means or what actually happens. > > > > > > Enlightenment, anyone? > > > > > > Barb in Ottawa > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <[email protected]> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > >

Hi Allen I see you are from New York are any of your West's from there my brick walls are John West and his sister Ellen he was born 1829 in Fleming Cayuga Co. Ny Ellen was born 1835 there parents was Lyman West 1798 Vt. Ruth White 1806 Ma. hope this ring a bell with some one thank you Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Siebold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > Dear Barb, > I didn't mean to scare you. I've been computing since the early 70's or so > and have had only 1 true failure (I've had 2 'stupid' failures directly > attributable to my own actions) in all that time over many, many, computers. > > When it does happen however, you will remember it. > > It's always nice to protect yourself . . . at least that's what I learned > long ago on the school bus :)> > > Allen > > > > > Rev. E. Allen Siebold > Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry > Pastor: The United Methodist Church > 3rd Ave at 116th St. > Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) > 3rd Ave at 115th St > Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA > www.gbgm-umc.org/lansingburgh > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > > Allen: You are indeed a fountain of info. Thank you for taking the time > to > > explain it so well and so fully. You have succeeded in scaring me to > > death....and right into the computer store for a CD burner. > > > > Your message should be published on every group. > > > > Grateful Barb in Ottawa, Ontario. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Allen Siebold" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > > > > > Barbara, > > > Computers can crash in different ways depending on the problem. If a > hard > > > disk 'goes' it often, but not always, gives a warning -- strange sounds > > and > > > intermittent errors -- at best. > > > > > > If a cpu stops working -- it just stops and stares back with a blank > > screen > > > without blinking. > > > > > > If a memory chip goes bad, you will get failures and faults and error > > > messages. > > > > > > Sometimes your operating system goes bad -- that is the easiest. You can > > > reload your operating system. > > > > > > The bottom line is you know you've crashed because it just stops doing > > what > > > it does so well -- work. > > > > > > If your hard disk stops working you probably, but not always, have lost > > all > > > your data -- unless you back up, back up, back up. Not just one back up > > > disk, but several backed up on a rotating basis. Some folks use zip > drives > > > because they hold more. I now use CD-R disks -- it just take a few > minutes > > > to back everything up on a couple of CD roms. I also am attached to a > > > network here at home and another at work. So periodically (once a week), > I > > > move files to another computer on each network. Each week I have my > > updated > > > files on CD disks and two computers in separate cities. Am I paranoid? > Oh, > > > yes. I had a computer crash on me -- a hard drive went bad with little > > > warning. > > > > > > And that (for me) is the short answer. > > > > > > Allen > > > Rev. E. Allen Siebold > > > Lansingburgh Ecumenical Shared Ministry > > > Pastor: The United Methodist Church > > > 3rd Ave at 116th St. > > > Stated Supply: First Presbyterian Church (USA) > > > 3rd Ave at 115th St > > > Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York, USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Barbara" > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:19 PM > > > Subject: [WEST-L] Computer crash - description please > > > > > > > Hello all: > > > > > > > > Myra wrote that her computer crashed and this got me to wondering what > > > > actually happens when this event occurs. > > > > > > > > What are the symptoms? > > > > > > > > What happens to all your saved files and your family database? > > > > > > > > What do you do to correct it or to recover from the crash? > > > > > > > > I keep my family database updated on disk, in case my machine crashes, > > but > > > > I've never understood what the term means or what actually happens. > > > > > > > > Enlightenment, anyone? > > > > > > > > Barb in Ottawa > > > > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe send a post to <[email protected]> > > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > > > > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org