I agree with Jinny, Sandra, This is yours and Jeff's document to do with as you may wish. Once you and he make whatever decision it is that you may come to, I agree that the original researcher who put this together should be given the credit and the proper citations should be posted along with any kind of release of the work, especially if you put it up on a website. If you do go that route, you or he will want full control and should be the ones to post it to whichever place you decide to send it. I think that Jeff and you should be commended for putting together the research work, and I hope that you realize that your work is greatly appreciated. Also, regarding the questions of citations, both Rootsweb Review and Ancestry Newsletters have done a number of articles on the subject which are archived at their websites. Here is one of the articles which explains something about it: RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine 29 March 2006, Vol. 9, No. 13 (c) 1998-2006 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ * * * In genealogy, most citations are to works that are in the public domain such as the factual material in an obituary or in a church registry. Such data is not subject to copyright and so only the CREATIVE text that is original with the author is copyrightable. (This entire article can be read at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2006/0329.txt and RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine Vol. 6, No. 12, 19 March 2003, Circulation: 1,022,037+ (c) 1998-2003 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ Solving Source Problems Vicki Klein wrote in RWR last week regarding "Citing Sources" and if anyone has a solution to her online sources problem. I don't know if this the BEST solution, but here is something that I have adopted. If I personally am able to view and verify a documented source like a marriage register, obituary, etc., I will include the source including the actual text and some sort of relevant reference to where I located it. If I receive some personal information via e-mail or from a telephone conversation or letter, etc., then I use that info to fill out an FGR (Family Group Record). I then attribute the source of that FGR to the person from whom I received the information. I include the name of the person within the "Comments" section of the citation and I try to include the date as well. I keep their e-mail address and other contact information out of the actual source citation and include it in my address book. My sources then appear on WorldConnect as something like: Sources: 1. Title: Family Group Record Date: 2002 It is easy for me to find the originator of the information, but difficult for just anyone on the Internet. Should someone who is related e-mail me, I can then put them in contact with other cousins. But "LIVING" human sources aren't displayed on the Internet and people have to go through me personally to find out more. --Brad Donison bdonison@hotmail.com ========================================== There are other articles which can be viewed by going to this link: http://search-rwr.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/htsearch Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinny Angelis" <jinnya@msn.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Re:Search for a Rootsweb home for the West Document > Definitely! I remembered that you said that there was a relative involved > in the preparation and you thought permission/credit was needed for him > also. > > I think most people already have it that wanted it. I do think we need to > have some guidance on the citation! You both need credit for preparing > such a useful document and coming up with the "right" citation would go a > long way to helping everyone know where it came from, particularly if > there are questions down the road. Someone had done a "nice" job in > referencing

Good information - thanks so very much! Guess I'm NOT to old to learn a few new things. LOL Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deloris Williams" <delwilliams@insightbb.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: [WEST-L] West Document & Citations and Sources >I agree with Jinny, Sandra, > This is yours and Jeff's document to do with as you may wish. Once you > and he make whatever decision it is that you may come to, I agree that the > original researcher who put this together should be given the credit and > the proper citations should be posted along with any kind of release of > the work, especially if you put it up on a website. If you do go that > route, you or he will want full control and should be the ones to post it > to whichever place you decide to send it. I think that Jeff and you > should be commended for putting together the research work, and I hope > that you realize that your work is greatly appreciated. > > Also, regarding the questions of citations, both Rootsweb Review and > Ancestry Newsletters have done a number of articles on the subject which > are archived at their websites. Here is one of the articles which > explains something about it: > RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine > 29 March 2006, Vol. 9, No. 13 > (c) 1998-2006 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ > * * * > > In genealogy, most citations are to works that are in the public domain > such as the factual material in an obituary or in a > church registry. > Such data is not subject to copyright and so only the CREATIVE text that > is original with the author is copyrightable. > (This entire article can be read at: > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2006/0329.txt > > and > RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine > Vol. 6, No. 12, 19 March 2003, Circulation: 1,022,037+ > (c) 1998-2003 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > Solving Source Problems > Vicki Klein wrote in RWR last week regarding "Citing Sources" and if > anyone has a solution to her online sources problem. I don't know if > this the BEST solution, but here is something that I have adopted. > > If I personally am able to view and verify a documented source like a > marriage register, obituary, etc., I will include the source including > the actual text and some sort of relevant reference to where I located > it. If I receive some personal information via e-mail or from a > telephone conversation or letter, etc., then I use that info to fill out > an FGR (Family Group Record). I then attribute the source of that FGR to > the person from whom I received the information. I include the name of > the person within the "Comments" section of the citation and I try to > include the date as well. I keep their e-mail address and other contact > information out of the actual source citation and include it in my > address book. My sources then appear on WorldConnect as something like: > > Sources: > 1. Title: Family Group Record > Date: 2002 > > It is easy for me to find the originator of the information, but > difficult for just anyone on the Internet. Should someone who is related > e-mail me, I can then put them in contact with other cousins. But > "LIVING" human sources aren't displayed on the Internet and people have > to go through me personally to find out more. > --Brad Donison bdonison@hotmail.com > ========================================== > There are other articles which can be viewed by going to this link: > http://search-rwr.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/htsearch > > Deloris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jinny Angelis" <jinnya@msn.com> > To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Re:Search for a Rootsweb home for the West Document > > >> Definitely! I remembered that you said that there was a relative >> involved in the preparation and you thought permission/credit was needed >> for him also. >> >> I think most people already have it that wanted it. I do think we need >> to have some guidance on the citation! You both need credit for >> preparing such a useful document and coming up with the "right" citation >> would go a long way to helping everyone know where it came from, >> particularly if there are questions down the road. Someone had done a >> "nice" job in referencing > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. >