In a message dated 02/10/1999 6:31:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, triplefire@hotmail.com writes: << Unfortuantely, I do not have dates for b/d for Harvey, but I would guess that he was born around 1850-1860. >> If he died after Missouri started keeping death certificates, maybe you could try there first and gather his date and place of birth, etc from the cert.