Hello Cousins :) I thought I'd post this site for those of you who are as confused as I've been about extended family relationship terminalogy. I knew about great aunts and etc.. but what the heck was a Great grand-aunt etc. This site explains it. I hope this helps someone like is has me :) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephew_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephew) Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams "Share knowledge as if it is a living entity, for in fact, it is. It lives on in the lives of others for generations to come." Barb Grainger - 2006

I sent an answer rootsweb would not send to the list. Apparently you can't scan forms and send them on roots web. The web site you talked about is mine. I tried to follow the rootsweb address for that census too, it wasn't available. Anyway, Asserkus is not a name I ever heard of before, and I wondered if it was an Indian name. Her name in our language was Frances Bertha West Cramer. Her father was Philip Parker West, b 1803 Accomack Virginia, her mother was Vina Perlina Roberts b 1805-1807, PA but I have since seen another birth place mentioned, it might have been Tennessee. Mom didn't want to admit to German or Indian. "Asserkus" was her grandmother. Karon ----- Original Message ----- From: PalTia@aol.com To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME I don't know anything about it either. I googled the word 'Asserkus' to see if it was a surname or a tribe or whatever and only got one link to someone's post. But it didn't show their post it only took me to a page that was a transcript of the census. But I didn't find this name. I'm really curious too. Can you give me the direct link to this exact page on the census where you found this? I'd like to look at it myself too. :) Thanks. Barb n a message dated 4/13/2006 3:24:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, karon@yvn.com writes: In the 1885 Nebraska Census, Frances Bertha West was listed as Asserkus. I am totally unfamiliar with that name, and have wondered if it was an Indian name. Anybody on the list know? Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams "Share knowledge as if it is a living entity, for in fact, it is. It lives on in the lives of others for generations to come." Barb Grainger - 2006 ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

Sandra, Here is the link to their homepage. There are several types of accounts Rootsweb offers for free, and they offer easy instructions on how to set one up. http://www.rootsweb.com/ Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra" <clanmother@bresnan.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Requesting copy of West names list in Word > WOW! Where are the Free Pages at Roots Web. Could someone clue me in to > how I find it? I LOVE rootsweb. It's like Nirvana for a genealogy > searcher. VBG > > Sandra > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to > Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

My West are Pennsylvania Dutch of 1754 time period in PA Barry WEst In a message dated 4/13/06 1:07:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. Thanks Sandra

I posted my grandmother West and West tombstone pictures on Barry county, Mo. photos.Go to Mogenweb and choose Barry county. The coordinator has worked hard with her volunteers to make it top-notch. Perhaps we should have a west site for everyone to post. Please send me the list. I love to share what I have. shelda Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Morwessel" <emzfan@fuse.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [WEST-L] Requesting copy of West names list in Word > Please send me the list also whenever you get the chance! > > Thanks! > Barb Morwessel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra [mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:31 PM > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Requesting copy of West names list in Word > > I love sending the list out probably for selfish reasons: I'm hoping that > I > > will connect with a cousin or twenty (vbg) and that we can combine our > information. I'm going to put up a site soon with pictures, info, etc > but > it will be awhile. If anyone does list the "list" please put my cousins > name, Jeff Young, in the credits. Like I've said before - no one really > owns this information, it belongs to our ancestors and anyone searching > for > them, but it's hard work, and giving credit is one of the nicest ways to > salute someone's efforts. > > I guess no one has found a connection with my line and that's > disappointing. > > I've sent out soooooo many and nary a bite. Related or not, I consider > you all my friends, if not DNA related, we are connected through the > cosmic > > soup. So, happy hunting and again, let me know if we connect. > > Sandra > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > >

I think you hit on something barb. My grandma west would not much to do with my father or his children. Her children tend to dark in skin similar to native America and green eyes.There was much made of the fact typical West earlobes (the hangy-down part) are very small; hence not able to wear earrings. shelda ----- Original Message ----- From: <PalTia@aol.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME > > > Sometimes 'Black Dutch' was a term used for 'Native American'. I have > heard > debates on both sides of the fence who say it was a term for NA, and some > who > say it wasn't, that it meant something else. It could have had more than > one meaning. :) But in my family it was a 'cover up' for Native American. > > barb > > In a message dated 4/13/2006 10:11:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lridall@ambt.net writes: > > Later on I was > told that the West side of the family were "Black Dutch" but my mother > didn't know what that meant. > > > > > > Barb :) > Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams > "Share knowledge as if it is a living entity, for in fact, it is. It lives > on in the lives of others for generations to come." Barb Grainger - 2006 > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > >

Hi Was there a middle name for Samuel West??? Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Mike Miller [mailto:mikemilr@blackfoot.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:24 PM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME My WEST line comes from Samuel WEST (m. Jane(t) Burnside), born 1759, place unknown, died 1844 in Huron, NY. His son, Calvin Brookins WEST, was born in Maryland, Otsego, NY in 1816, moved to Defiance, Ohio before 1844 and died at sea on the ship Sierra Nevada after contracting Chlolera in Panama in route to San Francisco -> Oregon with his family in 1855. CB WEST came to OR in the late 1840's and early 1850's and had a 9000 acre land grant near Roseburg, OR. After his death, his family settled there - the original land grant is still intact and, although no longer in the family, there is a museum located there dedicated to the Wests. I have CB Wests pencil written diaries of his travels in the OR territories. His daughter, Anna West (Webster) is my gggrandmother. The Burnsides fought in the revolutionary war - Jane(t)s father was born in Ireland - she was born in NY - one might speculate that if the Irish kept to themselves, Samuel West may have been a good Irish lad - obviously, there is no way to know for sure. mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. Thanks Sandra ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Families are like fudge. Mostly sweet with a few nuts.

That is humorous to me as my mother was saying she was Pennsylvania Dutch to avoid being German. And she wouldn't admit to being any degree of Indian. In the 1885 Nebraska Census, Frances Bertha West was listed as Asserkus. I am totally unfamiliar with that name, and have wondered if it was an Indian name. Anybody on the list know? Karon Karon ----- Original Message ----- From: Deborah Slager To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME Pennsylvania Dutch is actually "Pennsylvania Deutch (pronouncec as Dutch)" or Pennsylvania Germans. It has nothing to do with Dutch or Holland or tulips. Deborah Klawitter Slager Sandra wrote: > I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What > have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My > cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) > others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of > Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. > > Thanks > > Sandra > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

Pennsylvania Dutch is actually "Pennsylvania Deutch (pronouncec as Dutch)" or Pennsylvania Germans. It has nothing to do with Dutch or Holland or tulips. Deborah Klawitter Slager Sandra wrote: > I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What > have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My > cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) > others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of > Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. > > Thanks > > Sandra > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria West" <vawest@rochester.rr.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME > Hi > > Was there a middle name for Samuel West??? > > Vicki I do not have a middle name for Samuel West. Here is a link to a page that may have more info - I am not a member and can not get in. http://www.kindredkonnections.com/cgi-bin/nextpedsf?24881875+000000+English+0-0+0+1 Some of Samuels grand kids would be: ( I would say all born in the Definance OH area.) Ann(a) Augusta b 3/11/1844 (my gggmother) David Simpson b 1847 Calvin Burnside b 7/16/1848 Lydia Jane b 5/24/1850 Sarah Abigail b 6/26/1852. The above area all children of Calvin Brookins West and Elizabeth Ludlow Hudson, m. 1842 Piqua, OH mike

I'm having a hard time finding the exact location of the museum - as I recall, it was about 7-8 miles east of Roseburg. There was a book published in 1961 (250 copies - I have two of them "somewhere") Publisher: The California History Foundation.. Stuart, Reginald R.; Stuart, Grace D. CALVIN B. WEST OF THE UMPQUA. AN OBSCURE CHAPTER IN THE HISTORY OF SOUTHERN OREGON. Stockton: 1961, One of 250 copies, The California History Foundation. Sorry I can't be of more help at present - I'll have to dig through some boxes of my grandparents old letters as I know they corresponded with the current land owners (current as of about 1980). A quick search of the Douglas County OR web page didn't find anything. mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "`Shirley" <SWB@Olympus.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME > Can you be specific about the location of the West museum? We make trips > to > that area every once in a while researching other families. My > furthest-back West ancestor I can document is Samuel West, b. Bracken > County, Ky around 1822. His wife was Nancy Story, also b. KY. No one > knows > where or when this Samuel died, but Nancy apparently outlived him and died > in Adams County, OH sometime after 1880. I don't know why, but I've > always > thought the Wests in our family were English. > > Shirley > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to > Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com

Please send me a copy of the West list. p44848@aol.com Thank you

It is my understanding that PA. Dutch is actually German. Germany by its natives is called Deutschland. There are so many different West families that there is probably one for every woodpile. Then there are those who aren't really West at all but liked that name better than the one they had. Have I succeeded in saying absolutely nothing? I normally do. Lol HLWest -----Original Message----- From: Sandra [mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:37 PM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. Thanks Sandra ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

My Dad was blue eyed, red haired Irish. He had a very close resemblance to the actor, Spencer Tracy, even the facial expressions. His father, Ephram West, had a definite dislike of the English, reasons unknown to me. Earliest West family that I can trace, lived in Lafayette and Johnson County, Mo, in a close knit Irish community, according to the census. Most marriages were between Irish, among them, Campbell, McDowell, Davis, Hogan, and Pool. My g-grandfather Henry Clay West married Julia Pool (Poole), (her mother was a Hogan) and they are buried In Lafayette County Mo, in the Pool family cemetery on a farm that has been in the Pool family since 1833. My oldest living Pool relative is an elderly unmarried farmer, who still works this farm. This cemetery holds my oldest known roots. Henry Clay Wests father, James West born 1808 NC, married Elizabeth --unk.. born 1824, married ca. 1842, in Lafayette Co. MO. His headstone is leaning against a tree at the Pool cemetery, and we have not found any evidence of Elizabeths grave. The West line for me just stops flat, at James 1808 NC. Hope someone knows something more. ..Ginger ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What have all of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My cousins in Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) others have said Irish, English and the ever present rumors of Indian. This is a curiosity of mine so please answer. Thanks Sandra ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

Please send me a copy in any convenient form. Thanx hlwestATearthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Sandra [mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:31 PM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Requesting copy of West names list in Word I love sending the list out probably for selfish reasons: I'm hoping that I will connect with a cousin or twenty (vbg) and that we can combine our information. I'm going to put up a site soon with pictures, info, etc but it will be awhile. If anyone does list the "list" please put my cousins name, Jeff Young, in the credits. Like I've said before - no one really owns this information, it belongs to our ancestors and anyone searching for them, but it's hard work, and giving credit is one of the nicest ways to salute someone's efforts. I guess no one has found a connection with my line and that's disappointing. I've sent out soooooo many and nary a bite. Related or not, I consider you all my friends, if not DNA related, we are connected through the cosmic soup. So, happy hunting and again, let me know if we connect. Sandra ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

Myra, How about at Rootsweb.com? They have a lot of websites either County, Surname or even to post your own FreePages, as they call it, and of course, everything is available for everyone to see for free. Just a suggestion. Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Chambers" <artandmyra@earthlink.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Requesting copy of West names list in Word >I don't know of a place unless there is someone on the list that has > his/her own website and would volunteer to let it be posted there. That > would be great. > > Myra Chambers > > >

What West museum? Sandra

When I was a child I was told that I was Irish and Dutch. Later on I was told that the West side of the family were "Black Dutch" but my mother didn't know what that meant. Our Wests had black hair, beautiful blue eyes, and a dark complection. I'm related to the Wests through my mother and her haplogroup is X . I was told by FTDNA that our X is Native American. Andrew Jackson West was born in North Carolina and settled in White County, Tennessee. Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra" <clanmother@bresnan.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: [WEST-L] ETHNICITY of the WEST NAME >I had posted this once before but would like lots of input. What have all >of you been told as to the ethnicity of the surname WEST? My cousins in >Illinois were told it was PA Dutch. (I hate tulips LOL) others have said >Irish, English and the ever present rumors of Indian. This is a curiosity >of mine so please answer. > > Thanks > > Sandra > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > >

WOW! Where are the Free Pages at Roots Web. Could someone clue me in to how I find it? I LOVE rootsweb. It's like Nirvana for a genealogy searcher. VBG Sandra

You're just a little ray of sunshine, aren't you? LMAO Just when I think I'm close to getting this all figured out, you hit me with reality! Jeeeeeze! Sandra