I am researching the WEST, WHITAKER, MCCOMAS, LOWERY and HAYS families who settled in western Pennsylvania before 1800. The following is a summary of information that is known: Mary Lowery, b. May 21, 1761, dau. of, Col. Alexander Lowery and Mary Waters, married 1st John (or Matthew) Hay and moved to western PA, after the Rev war, they had two sons; Lowery and John. (the sons later moved to Shawneetown, IL) John Hay drown leaving Mary a widow. My GGG/GdFather Joseph West, Sr., b. 1757, d. Mar. 19, 1841, in Allegheny Co., PA, married 1st the widow Mary (Lowery) Hays about 1789, they had four sons; Alexander, Edward, Joseph b. 1795 and Matthew b. 1799. Mary died between 1799 and 1812. Joseph Sr. married 2nd my GGG/GdMother Catherine Whitaker, b. ?1788, dau. of Aaron Whitaker and Martha Ann Roush. Joseph and Catherine's 1st son, Aaron Whitaker West, b. 1813, is my GG/GdFather. In 1796 Col. Lowery sold his 300 acre Rev War land patent, named �Leydon�, located on the Monongahela River about 9 miles up river from Pittsburgh, to Joseph West and his daughter Mary (Lowery)(Hays) West. In 1871 the West heirs would sell the farm and it would become Homestead, PA. I have located information in regard to the ancestors of Joseph West Sr. in several biographical history books about western PA, I have no proof to backup the bios. The bios. list Joseph's parents as Edward West and Elizabeth McComas who settled in Washington, Co., PA on a warrant named "Election Ground". I have a DAR application that lists Edward West b. June 16, 1729 in Loudoun Co., VA, d. Jun. 14, 1812, in Washington, Co., PA. He married Elizabeth McComas 1769. She was b. Jan. 2, 1731, d. May 26, 1813. They are buried in "Old West" cemetery, in Washington Co., PA. There is no Joseph West listed as a son of Edward on the DAR application. Elizabeth may be Edwards second wife since they married (1769) after Joseph was born (1757). If any one has any info I will share all that I have. Thanks Ralph West --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Dawn, The only John W. West that I know of is: John W. West b. 28 Oct 1690-Long Credon, Buckinghamshire, England m. 1718-Chester Co., Penn. d. 5 Oct 1776-Warborough, Oxforshire, England to: Sarah Pearson b. 8 April 1697-Marple Twp. Chester, Penn. d. 1756-Springfield, Penn Sorry I wasn't of any help. Jo

Hi list, I'm looking for a John W. West from Pennsylvania..mid 1800's. I believe that somehow he is from my line. In 1855 in Centre County PA he bought a piece of property with Hugh St. Clair West. I have a copy of the deed, but no information on the John W. West listed. I'm trying to determine if he is a brother, father or uncle of Hugh, as Hugh is from my line. Is anyone familiar with this line? Thanks very much. Dawn West

Dennis Thanks for your reply. I had emailed Myra last week on this subject, but didn't get a reply, so that's why I posted on the West site. I descend from John Wm.'s twin sister Martha Ellen West. I really don't know of any male West descendants of this family. Good luck, and again thanks Joe _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com

How safe is laminating?? I understand lamination will , in time, darken the item until one cannot read/see it anymore. I have obituaries, laminated in the mid 1970's that cannot be copied now, they are so dark and not readable. Marilyn [email protected] wrote: > If I were you I would go down if you don't have one and have it enclosed it > laminated. > It will show up so much clearer and that way you can copy it and laminate > them > for your children and grandchildren. That is what I am doing with a lot of my > old > pictures. > I would feel exactly like you but they, I am sure meant well. > wrak > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <[email protected]> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address.

Joe, I'm glad you found the photo of Martha Ellen. Susie "West" Morris ----- Original Message ----- From: J Carter Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WEST-L] Photo Found !! For anyone interrested in John William West family, I found the missing photo of his daughter Martha Ellen West, and her husband James Asa Price. If you go to the Gibson Co. Tn. web page, and type in Price in the search this site box, you'll get 95 hits. Go to # 26 and you'll find the photo. Joe _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Families are like fudge. Mostly sweet with a few nuts.

Vicki, How about offering to sell it to someone on the list for what it cost you. I am sure you will get an offer. From what I understand, a lot of people sell pages from old books on ebay and other places. It doesn't take away from the fact that it came from a 1860's book. Ask the seller for more information if you can and just offer to sell it. Lisa

Hi Jo, I found a Nicholas West born in 1501 in Long Crendon, Bucks, England and married to an Isabel - in about 1524. I have their two children listed as William and Thomas. Thomas was born in about 1530 - and that is all the info I was able to gather. Their other son William was kin - way back. I have that he had 6 children - William, Nicholas, Hugh, rowland, Agnes and Margery. I don't have a birth date for Nicholas. My line continues through William's son - William. Hope this helps. Fabel Lee Titus <[email protected]> wrote: Bill, I have Thomas West, born 1642, married to Ann Rachel Gilpin 3 Feb 1682. She was born 14 Feb 1660. As their children, I have: William Thomas-1670, Wapping Stepny P, Middlesex, England Rachel John-28 October 1690 (my ancestor) Benjamin I don't see an Edward in my line or in my research, but that doesn't mean he isn't there, somewhere. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I am still looking for info on Nicholas West, he would be an ancestor to Thomas West. He was born about 1500 in Long Credon, Bucks, England. Married to Isabell about 1524. I have his father as Richard West. I will keep looking for an Edward. If you can find any more info on any of these persons mentioned above would really appreciate it. Thanks, Jo ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Families are like fudge. Mostly sweet with a few nuts. Have a great day! Fabel Konicke --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Hi Jim, My West line does go back into Pennsylvania - a Joseph West & Jane Owens - the only child I know of theirs was their son Isaac (Sr) who was born in PA in 1741 and died in Montgomery Co., VA in 1821. He was married to Rosanna Lewis in 1766 in Randolph County, NC Joseph Was born Jan 6 1717 or 1718 in Springfield, Deleware, PA and died Sept 12, 1802 in Pittsylvania Co., VA. He was designated as a Patriot in the Revolutionary War. Jane was born Jun 9 1720 in Nottingham, Chester Co., PA and died 20 Dec 1791. How does all this fit? Fabel Jim Nixon <[email protected]> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Morris West >> Karen West Deck > I'm Jim Nixon chasing a William West who married an Elizabeth Sargent in 1805 in Frederick County, VA. According to history, Frederick County was populated by protestants imported from Penn. So I think William's family came from Penn. Later William and at least two children, Jacob and Joshua Wesley, moved to Ohio. Could your West's be related to my West's?? Jim Nixon [email protected] > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to > Myra Chambers at [email protected] > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Families are like fudge. Mostly sweet with a few nuts. Have a great day! Fabel Konicke --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

From what I have briefly read here, whether they "meant well" or not is beside the point. It appears on the surface that they mis-identified the material. You can, and should, seek redress (that is, your money back! - upon return of the page, of course). If they advertised an original etching, then an original etching is what they must produce -- not a ripped out page of a book. I buy and sell on ebay often -- I must advertise exactly, and I expect what I buy must be as advertised. Otherwise the sale is not proper. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] BENJAMIN WEST > If I were you I would go down if you don't have one and have it enclosed it > laminated. > It will show up so much clearer and that way you can copy it and laminate > them > for your children and grandchildren. That is what I am doing with a lot of my > old > pictures. > I would feel exactly like you but they, I am sure meant well. > wrak > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <[email protected]> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > >

I would let them know how I feel. I have heard Ebay does not permit stuff like that.

If I were you I would go down if you don't have one and have it enclosed it laminated. It will show up so much clearer and that way you can copy it and laminate them for your children and grandchildren. That is what I am doing with a lot of my old pictures. I would feel exactly like you but they, I am sure meant well. wrak

Websters dictionary: "Engraving: An impression from an engraved plate, block of wood, or other material; a print." I understood from reading the auction that that is what this is...a very small print from the engravers block. Usually they are inserted into the page, and can be removed. If that is what you got then the seller did not misrepresent. If this isn't what you received, you should let the seller know. I would be very careful in leaving bad "feedback" for the seller...it goes on their record permanently and is a black mark. I know this as an eBay seller. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fabel Konicke > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] BENJAMIN WEST > > I actually purchased this item - so will let you know how it works out!

For anyone interrested in John William West family, I found the missing photo of his daughter Martha Ellen West, and her husband James Asa Price. If you go to the Gibson Co. Tn. web page, and type in Price in the search this site box, you'll get 95 hits. Go to # 26 and you'll find the photo. Joe _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com

Looking for information on John Wm. West Jr., b 1-29-1836 Tn. Son of John Wm. and Elizabeth Frazier West, and husband of Nancy Kelly. Married 12-20-1855 in Gibson Co. Tn. Later found in 1880 living in Madison Co. Tn. Children: Sarah b 1857, Susan b 1858, Mary E. b 1863, Eliza P. b 1864, Veleria J. b 1865, Giles Albert b 1868. Childrens birth dates taken from census. Any information on John Jr. and his children will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much Joe _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

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Which one are free? Thanks, Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Genealogy.com does not stand behind their product dont see why ya got FTM in first place i found several free tree programs, that work just as good or better ie legacy brotherskeeper paf ancestry world tree ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at [email protected]

Hi Vicki, Well I agree that it didn't sound real clear but I also remember that the bidding was fairly low on it as well. You can rate the seller negatively if you feel that it was misrepresented but I remember seeing the picture and it looked pretty clear. I would just do something creative with it, frame it and enjoy it. Maybe even putting several pictures together showing how the house has evolved over the last 150 years. We are cousins and we are lucky that such a piece of our history still exists. Lisa >In a message dated 10/20/2003 11:57:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Well - I am quite unhappy. This is how it was presented on e-bay...what I > got was a page taken from a book with the little picture inside. so much > for this being an "original engraving; this is not a reproduction" Okay Wests > out there, what would you have thought was being sold? > > 1861 Engraving PA Benjamin West Birth Place > > Guaranteed original engraving; this is not a reproduction. > > This print was removed from the 1861 edition of John W. Barber and Henry > Howe's book "Our Whole Country: Or The Past and Present of the United States, > Historical and Descriptive. Illustrated by 600 engravings." > The approximate dimensions of the print including captions is 1.75" x 1.25". > It has some foxing spots yet is attractive and would be nice framed

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I agree with you whole heartedly Frank. You have already paid for it once, and since it is defective that is their fault. el