My goodness, I've been going through deleting the DNA project headings also because I don't have any male relatives to participate. Hope I didn't miss any queries on my families. In a message dated 3/23/2006 6:10:51 PM Central Standard Time, jseawell@adelphia.net writes: > Just a suggestion. It might server someone/everyone better if one would > change the subject line if the subject of the emails change. Here I am > deleting a number of emails with the subject West DNA update 3/20/2006 > thinking all the emails are related to this project. Come to find out, > only the first two emails were about the DNA project and the rest were > about family queries. > > How many other people have done like I did and never checked at all? > > Take care and back to lurk mode. . . >

Just a suggestion. It might server someone/everyone better if one would change the subject line if the subject of the emails change. Here I am deleting a number of emails with the subject West DNA update 3/20/2006 thinking all the emails are related to this project. Come to find out, only the first two emails were about the DNA project and the rest were about family queries. How many other people have done like I did and never checked at all? Take care and back to lurk mode. . . -----Original Message----- From: FranDBak@aol.com [mailto:FranDBak@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 15:20 To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] West DNA testing Do you know anything of an Augustus (Gus) WEST, Sampson Co., NC ? Do you know his parents ? Thanks, Fran in GA ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address.

Do you know anything of an Augustus (Gus) WEST, Sampson Co., NC ? Do you know his parents ? Thanks, Fran in GA

Hi, I am a West from Tyrrell Co. North Carolina. We go to a William West b around 1750. We may be from a Robert who I belive is from RI.or Mass. and also from Isle of Wright Va. They came here in the Albemarle Area in around 1669. We have male West for DNA. I belive we are English . And Yeoman. Thank you, Kim West

Bill, Do you have a Sarah (Sallie) Ann West born Oct. 11, 1840, in Sussex County, DE, who married Dennis Collins? After Dennis died in 1865, she married John Q. Warrington. Thank you very much. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill McKinney" <sholly@adelphia.net> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] West DNA update 3/20/2006 > Where is your Sarah from? I have several. > > Bill McKinney > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PalTia@aol.com> > To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] West DNA update 3/20/2006 > > > > You wouldn't happen to have a Sarah Ann West b. about 1845-1855 who > > married > > a Milford O. Hardin(g) would you? > > > > > > Barb :) > > Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, Guinn, Newton > > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> > > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/286 - Release Date: 3/20/2006 > > > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > >

Thank you again Bill. :) She certainly is an elusive ancestor. Even though we know quite a bit about her in her older age, we know nothing about her parents or line. Have a great day In a message dated 3/22/2006 4:28:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sholly@adelphia.net writes: All of my Sarahs are either from Pennsylvania or Virginia, and most were born considerably earlier. I Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton

Thank you Bill. I'll do that :) In a message dated 3/22/2006 4:22:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, karon@yvn.com writes: Council Bluffs and Omaha are just across the river from each other Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton

Sorry I can't be of any help. All of my Sarahs are either from Pennsylvania or Virginia, and most were born considerably earlier. I had one from the time frame in which you are interested, but doesn't look like the same line. Bill

Hi Bill, :) Sarah Ann West b. 1846 in Racine, Wisconsin. d. 1933, either Council Bluffs, Iowa or Omaha, Nebraska. m. Milford Hardin(g) June 1865 in, Racine, Wisconsin. They lived in several states, but settled in Council Bluffs, Iowa for the remainder of their lives. I have her there living with her son, Cyrus, on the 1930 census. Her Husband, Milford Harding, died in 1919. My first cousin, once removed, did get info on her obit, from the HIstorical Society of Pottawattamie, County, IA. I sent a copy of her letter to the Iowa Vital records and they said they could not find her death information for me. I was hoping to find information on her parents from her death certificate. I have a lot of information from her civil war widows pension application about where they lived etc. But no information on who her parents were. The obit, found in the Omaha Evening World Herald, Monday, November 06, 1933 and again in the Omaha Morning Edition World Herald, Tuesday, 04, Nov. 1933 simply said, "Sarah Harding, age 87 years, passed away Saturday. Funeral at 2 p.m. Tuesday from the Glendale Chapel. Interment, Crescent, IA. " Now, I was wondering, since her info was in the Omaha Evening World Herald, do you think she may have died in Omaha, Nebraska instead of Council Bluffs? The person at the HIstorical society just said that she got the information from the "Omaha Library'. I am not familiar with either Council Bluffs or Omaha. So I'm going to write to the Historical Society to have them explain some things to me. Ok.. I know that is probably way way too much info. Thank you for any help you can give me. I do find her on several census with Milford and their children. In a message dated 3/22/2006 1:23:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sholly@adelphia.net writes: Where is your Sarah from? I have several. Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton

Where is your Sarah from? I have several. Bill McKinney ----- Original Message ----- From: <PalTia@aol.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] West DNA update 3/20/2006 > You wouldn't happen to have a Sarah Ann West b. about 1845-1855 who > married > a Milford O. Hardin(g) would you? > > > Barb :) > Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, Guinn, Newton > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/286 - Release Date: 3/20/2006 > >

Council Bluffs and Omaha are just across the river from each other, it would be simple enough to live in one city and die in the other. I would definitely try the Historical Societies and Genealogy Societies in each city or area. Karon, researching the Philip Parker West, b 1803 Accomack Virginia line. He is buried in Hayes Cemetery, Otter Creek Twp. Tama County, Iowa. Anyone have connections with this line, or his son Alexander of Tama County, please contact me. karon@yvn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: PalTia@aol.com To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] West DNA update 3/20/2006 Hi Bill, :) Sarah Ann West b. 1846 in Racine, Wisconsin. d. 1933, either Council Bluffs, Iowa or Omaha, Nebraska. m. Milford Hardin(g) June 1865 in, Racine, Wisconsin. They lived in several states, but settled in Council Bluffs, Iowa for the remainder of their lives. I have her there living with her son, Cyrus, on the 1930 census. Her Husband, Milford Harding, died in 1919. My first cousin, once removed, did get info on her obit, from the HIstorical Society of Pottawattamie, County, IA. I sent a copy of her letter to the Iowa Vital records and they said they could not find her death information for me. I was hoping to find information on her parents from her death certificate. I have a lot of information from her civil war widows pension application about where they lived etc. But no information on who her parents were. The obit, found in the Omaha Evening World Herald, Monday, November 06, 1933 and again in the Omaha Morning Edition World Herald, Tuesday, 04, Nov. 1933 simply said, "Sarah Harding, age 87 years, passed away Saturday. Funeral at 2 p.m. Tuesday from the Glendale Chapel. Interment, Crescent, IA. " Now, I was wondering, since her info was in the Omaha Evening World Herald, do you think she may have died in Omaha, Nebraska instead of Council Bluffs? The person at the HIstorical society just said that she got the information from the "Omaha Library'. I am not familiar with either Council Bluffs or Omaha. So I'm going to write to the Historical Society to have them explain some things to me. Ok.. I know that is probably way way too much info. Thank you for any help you can give me. I do find her on several census with Milford and their children. In a message dated 3/22/2006 1:23:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sholly@adelphia.net writes: Where is your Sarah from? I have several. Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com

Vicki and others, We are using the Y-Chromosome DNA test, and only males have a Y-chromosome. The Y-chromsome is passed from father to son, and follows the male surname. That's why it is such a powerful tool for genealogy research. We have a graphic on our web page showing how the sex of a child depends on whether that child gets a Y-chromsome from his father. You can view that graphic at: http://web.utk.edu/~corn/westdna/west7.htm There is also a mitochondrial DNA test - mtDNA - that can be taken by both men and women. mtDNA is passed from a mother to all of her children (male and female). Children get no mtDNA from their fathers. This means that the mtDNA can be used to follow the direct maternal line, just like Y-DNA can be used for the direct paternal line. We have a big problem using mtDNA because we have lost the surnames of many of our female ancestors. Please email me if there are questions Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA project co-admin ========================= Hi Dennis, I am wondering if it is only the males you can get this information from or can us ladies participate in this DNA study. Vicki

Hi Dennis, I am wondering if it is only the males you can get this information from or can us ladies participate in this DNA study. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: dwest3@utk.edu [mailto:dwest3@utk.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:10 PM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WEST-L] West DNA testing Hi Vicki, For those who have been able to document their genealogy to the British Isles or Europe, DNA testing may be able to provide insight on origins pre-dating the adoption of surnames. A recent study from Trinity University in Dublin Ireland was able to provide an estimate for the DNA signature of "Niall of the Nine Hostages", who lived in the 5th century. Genealogists researching their Scot roots have been able to provide an estimate of the DNA signature of Somerled, one of the early kings or Clan chiefs of Scotland (scottish researchers forgive my lack of knowledge). DNA testing can verify your genealogy, but this only occurs when two people who descend from the same individual have their DNA tested, and have a match. DNA is very important for that large group, which includes me, whose paper trail disappears beyond about 1800. It is very important for this group to have DNA test results from individuals with good documentation to Europe. A DNA test can eliminate lines to which we show no genetic relationship, and give us new clues and sources to research for our personal family history. The procedure itself is very easy, participants order a DNA test kit which contains everything needed to collect the DNA sample swabbing inside the cheek. Please email me if more information is needed, or if I can help in any way. Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA co-admin ====================== Vicki wrote: Hi Dennis, I do know where my West line originated. We WEST came from Scotland and I know that some of the other United States West lines originated from the same area. Using the US census I have been able to trace some of my Scottish relations. Also, I have been told that the West originated from England but I haven't found the connection yet. So,how does one go about this West DNA and why is it so important??? Vicki ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address.

Thanks :) I'll check every now and then. In a message dated 3/21/2006 7:11:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dwest3@utk.edu writes: Hi Barb, We don't have a HARDIN / WEST connection in the data that has been sent to me. That doesn't mean the line of Sarah West isn't in the test, just that if she is, we don't know it yet. Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton

Hi Vicki, For those who have been able to document their genealogy to the British Isles or Europe, DNA testing may be able to provide insight on origins pre-dating the adoption of surnames. A recent study from Trinity University in Dublin Ireland was able to provide an estimate for the DNA signature of "Niall of the Nine Hostages", who lived in the 5th century. Genealogists researching their Scot roots have been able to provide an estimate of the DNA signature of Somerled, one of the early kings or Clan chiefs of Scotland (scottish researchers forgive my lack of knowledge). DNA testing can verify your genealogy, but this only occurs when two people who descend from the same individual have their DNA tested, and have a match. DNA is very important for that large group, which includes me, whose paper trail disappears beyond about 1800. It is very important for this group to have DNA test results from individuals with good documentation to Europe. A DNA test can eliminate lines to which we show no genetic relationship, and give us new clues and sources to research for our personal family history. The procedure itself is very easy, participants order a DNA test kit which contains everything needed to collect the DNA sample swabbing inside the cheek. Please email me if more information is needed, or if I can help in any way. Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA co-admin ====================== Vicki wrote: Hi Dennis, I do know where my West line originated. We WEST came from Scotland and I know that some of the other United States West lines originated from the same area. Using the US census I have been able to trace some of my Scottish relations. Also, I have been told that the West originated from England but I haven't found the connection yet. So,how does one go about this West DNA and why is it so important??? Vicki

Hi Barb, We don't have a HARDIN / WEST connection in the data that has been sent to me. That doesn't mean the line of Sarah West isn't in the test, just that if she is, we don't know it yet. You can always check our ancestors page to see if there are any names/locations that could connect to your line. http://web.utk.edu/~corn/westdna/west6.htm Sorry I could not be more help. Dennis West, W01 West DNA co-admin ================ Barb wrote: You wouldn't happen to have a Sarah Ann West b. about 1845-1855 who married a Milford O. Hardin(g) would you? Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, Guinn, Newton

You wouldn't happen to have a Sarah Ann West b. about 1845-1855 who married a Milford O. Hardin(g) would you? Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, Guinn, Newton

Hi Dennis, I do know where my West line originated. We WEST came from Scotland and I know that some of the other United States West lines originated from the same area. Using the US census I have been able to trace some of my Scottish relations. Also, I have been told that the West originated from England but I haven't found the connection yet. So,how does one go about this West DNA and why is it so important??? Vicki -----Original Message----- From: dwest3@utk.edu [mailto:dwest3@utk.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:19 AM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WEST-L] West DNA update 3/20/2006 Good evening cousins, Just a short note for those who may not be aware of our WEST surname DNA project. Please visit our web page at: http://web.utk.edu/~corn/westdna/ for the latest information and test results. Within the next month we will pass the 100 mark on DNA test kits ordered. Waiting until there are a significant number of participants is no longer a valid excuse. The results are mixed, some have been able to connect to lines that they would probably not have found without the DNA test. Others had their DNA tested 3 years ago and are still waiting for their first match. Our goal is to get every WEST line worldwide tested, but I don't expect to live that long. I am now confident that if we ever achieve that goal, we will find at least 200 unrelated WEST lines. It's overwhelming to think about, and another reason to add the DNA from your WEST line to the project. Please email me if you have questions, or would like to participate. Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA co-admin ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com

Good evening cousins, Just a short note for those who may not be aware of our WEST surname DNA project. Please visit our web page at: http://web.utk.edu/~corn/westdna/ for the latest information and test results. Within the next month we will pass the 100 mark on DNA test kits ordered. Waiting until there are a significant number of participants is no longer a valid excuse. The results are mixed, some have been able to connect to lines that they would probably not have found without the DNA test. Others had their DNA tested 3 years ago and are still waiting for their first match. Our goal is to get every WEST line worldwide tested, but I don't expect to live that long. I am now confident that if we ever achieve that goal, we will find at least 200 unrelated WEST lines. It's overwhelming to think about, and another reason to add the DNA from your WEST line to the project. Please email me if you have questions, or would like to participate. Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA co-admin

Listmembers, I came across this very interesting bit of information and decided it might be useful or helpful to other researchers. Grundy County is located in Middle Tennessee, on the border of East Tennessee. The Cumberland mountains divide the county into a series of valleys and plateaus. The county was formed in 1844 with lands from Coffee, Franklin & Warren counties. History of Grundy County Many of the earliest settlers in Grundy County came from North Carolina. They settled primarily in the valleys of Warren and Franklin counties, along the Collins and Elk rivers. During the period from about 1810 to 1840, settlers poured into the wilderness which was to become Grundy County. The records of Warren County detail the Collins River valley settlement during this period, while the Elk River valley was part of Franklin County. Descended from Samuel WEST born NC before 1755. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.