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    1. RE: [WEST-L] Willis West Att:Debra
    2. Victoria West
    3. Hi Debra, I am interested in you WEST and KING. My Great-Grand father had a friend with the last name of King when he came to the US in 1923. Do you have West in your family??? Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Debora King [mailto:debbyk@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:51 PM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West My sister is RH negative. I have crooked little fingers and little toes..Debby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis E Helsel" <jhelsel@buckeye-express.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > As a West by birth, I am the only sibling of three, born to a male > West to have a-neg blood type. I am also a descentant of Joseph C. > West. > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: clanmother@bresnan.net > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:26:21 -0600 > > >I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been > >tested. I > >have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape > >done, we > >are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as far > >as > >testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in > >my line, > >at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and > >I'm Rh-A > >neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little > >fingers. > >Go figure. Might be fun. > > > >Sandra > > > > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== > >Families are like fudge. > >Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Families are like fudge. Mostly sweet with a few nuts.

    04/04/2006 10:18:15
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Where is your Joe C. West from?I have a Joe West and his family goes back to 1870 census. His ancestor was Johnnie West b. 1870 and we matched 12 out 13 markers. He had an extra marker. I am not sure at the moment what state he is from. I know it is a southern state psb. LA or TX. We all matched 12 out of 12 markes with James West b. 1798, SC Alice WEST Ferguson.... W53 WEST DNA PROJECT Descendant of Silas West, b. abt. 1832, NC

    04/04/2006 10:11:43
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Thank you, please send any information that you have. Has your West family done the DNA testing yet? That a sure way of finding what other WEST that you match? Alice

    04/04/2006 09:39:47
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Jinny Angelis
    3. So Sandra, how scooped are the front teeth in back? Is this both the top and bottom teeth or just the top? Where did you find this info about the A-neg disappearing? This sounds interesting that I'm becoming so rare! Jinny Barber Angelis ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra<mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net> To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Ya' know Debby and all (of us) I don't believe in coincidence. I do think these are inherited traits. I hope that my post about A- blood being taken out of the gene pool reached everyone. I also have no earlobes. Anthropological traits are so intriguing. There is something, and I can't remember what, about the space between our big toe and the toe next to it. Also, I read once that native Americans have scooped out teeth (the back of the ones in front) A German woman I know said that it was impossible because she was pure German. But it wouldn't be. Way back when if any of her relatives were from the steppes in northern Asia and ended up migrating over the Bering Straight and down to create our Native American population. I have Crow Indian friends that look so Asian it's pathetic. In the end, who are we really? What prevails? So many questions, so few answers. VBG The search goes on. Sandra West Prowell ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:WEST-admin@rootsweb.com>

    04/04/2006 06:23:14
    1. Re: [WEST-L] West families of Estill, Madison, Clark & Montgomery, KY
    2. My Great Grandfather George W. West married a Caroline Melinda Harless in Cass Co. Mo. Is this West name either of your line? ew

    04/04/2006 05:04:20
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Debora King
    3. My sister is RH negative. I have crooked little fingers and little toes..Debby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis E Helsel" <jhelsel@buckeye-express.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > As a West by birth, I am the only sibling of three, born to a male > West to have a-neg blood type. I am also a descentant of Joseph C. > West. > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: clanmother@bresnan.net > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:26:21 -0600 > > >I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been > >tested. I > >have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape > >done, we > >are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as far > >as > >testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in > >my line, > >at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and > >I'm Rh-A > >neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little > >fingers. > >Go figure. Might be fun. > > > >Sandra > > > > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== > >Families are like fudge. > >Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org >

    04/04/2006 03:51:12
    1. West's of Cass Co., MO
    2. Cheri Layhee
    3. In rely to E. White: Was your George W. West born April 16, 1859 in Worth Co., MO? And were his parents John Alexander & Elizabeth Ann Mahan- West? If so, your George & my ggrandfather John Alexander West were brothers. My John was born December 1, 1839 in Danville, Hendricks Co., IN, & died August 11, 1920 in Creighton, Cass Co., MO Cheri West-Layhee

    04/04/2006 03:44:43
    1. Re: [WEST-L] West families of Estill, Madison, Clark & Montgomery, KY
    2. Sandra
    3. Hmmmm Cass County rings bell but I might be thinking about Cass County NEB. Let me look through my stuff tomorrow and I'll see what I can find. I don't recall a George in my line at all, but I'll double check for you. Sandra West Prowell

    04/04/2006 03:15:24
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Sandra
    3. Hi Anne - my husband's name is Prowell and he was adopted so the only line I have done is his biological family. His adoptive parent that was a Prowell was his adoptive father, Albert Abraham Prowell. Al's father's name was Ulysses Simpson Grant Prowell and his mother's name Sadie? All was born in rich Hill Missouri and grew up in Pleasanton, KS - right across the border. My husband tells me they had scads of Prowell relatives in Missouri. Al's siblings were: Carrie, Nelson, and Gene. Wish I knew more but I don't. Where does Maloof from? It's beautiful. Sandra

    04/04/2006 03:03:35
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Sandra
    3. Ya' know Debby and all (of us) I don't believe in coincidence. I do think these are inherited traits. I hope that my post about A- blood being taken out of the gene pool reached everyone. I also have no earlobes. Anthropological traits are so intriguing. There is something, and I can't remember what, about the space between our big toe and the toe next to it. Also, I read once that native Americans have scooped out teeth (the back of the ones in front) A German woman I know said that it was impossible because she was pure German. But it wouldn't be. Way back when if any of her relatives were from the steppes in northern Asia and ended up migrating over the Bering Straight and down to create our Native American population. I have Crow Indian friends that look so Asian it's pathetic. In the end, who are we really? What prevails? So many questions, so few answers. VBG The search goes on. Sandra West Prowell

    04/04/2006 02:18:01
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Anne Maloof
    3. Hi, Sandra AGAIN! Were any of your PROWELLS in MO? I have one Malinda Fletcher PROWELL Matthews, related to an 1812 vet, Robin Fletcher, and Prowell Rev. War vet ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra<mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net> To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Ya' know Debby and all (of us) I don't believe in coincidence. I do think these are inherited traits. I hope that my post about A- blood being taken out of the gene pool reached everyone. I also have no earlobes. Anthropological traits are so intriguing. There is something, and I can't remember what, about the space between our big toe and the toe next to it. Also, I read once that native Americans have scooped out teeth (the back of the ones in front) A German woman I know said that it was impossible because she was pure German. But it wouldn't be. Way back when if any of her relatives were from the steppes in northern Asia and ended up migrating over the Bering Straight and down to create our Native American population. I have Crow Indian friends that look so Asian it's pathetic. In the end, who are we really? What prevails? So many questions, so few answers. VBG The search goes on. Sandra West Prowell ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:WEST-admin@rootsweb.com>

    04/04/2006 01:47:39
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Dennis E Helsel
    3. I too am a West, and have A neg blood type, the only one of three kids. My gg. uncle, Fisher C. West, from Indiana purshased guite a bit of land in Missouri during the early 1900's and I'm sure some West's moved south. My gg grandfther, Ira Allen West and family left Dekalb Cty In. for Oklahoma in 1886, settling in southcentral Ks. and then parts of Oklahoma. ---- Original Message ---- From: AnneMaloof@msn.com To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:53:16 -0700 >My brickwall is George Shelton West (married to Bethann), father of >John Thomas West, Conf. vet (POW) from Cass Co., MO, double GG uncle. > This family had land in what is known as the Westport part of KC. >Geo. was born en route to MO through KY. I have a photo of him (very >tall). > >I also have A- and a crooked little finger. West is on my father's >mother's side with Kimberlins, Griffiths, Blairs. My father's >father's people were Sextons, Matthews, Prowells, Greens (Indian), >Whites, Duskys. His first cousin also has A-. All also from Boone >Co., MO, Madison Co., KY before. > >My mother was more recently Irish & German: Donovan, Lause, Gresner, >Baker/Boecker. She also was A-. > >Anything ring a bell? Where are your Wests from? > > >Anne (Sexton) Maloof > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandra<mailto:clanmother@bresnan.net> > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > > > I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been >tested. I > have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape >done, we > are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as >far as > testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in >my line, > at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and >I'm Rh-A > neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little >fingers. > Go figure. Might be fun. > > Sandra > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== >Families are like fudge. >Mostly sweet with a few nuts.

    04/04/2006 01:02:52
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Dennis E Helsel
    3. As a West by birth, I am the only sibling of three, born to a male West to have a-neg blood type. I am also a descentant of Joseph C. West. ---- Original Message ---- From: clanmother@bresnan.net To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:26:21 -0600 >I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been >tested. I >have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape >done, we >are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as far >as >testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in >my line, >at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and >I'm Rh-A >neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little >fingers. >Go figure. Might be fun. > >Sandra > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== >Families are like fudge. >Mostly sweet with a few nuts.

    04/04/2006 12:56:24
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Willis West
    2. Dennis E Helsel
    3. I have a Joseph Curtis West b. New York; migrated to Dekalb Cty. Indiana in 1844 with family. I can send you all I have on my ggg. grandfather. ---- Original Message ---- From: Ally3729@aol.com To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:17:16 EDT >Bradley, > >I am glad you asked the million dollar question. Not that we know of. > We >(Fran West Powell and I) have been trying to get someone from the >family of >Willis West to participate. Nothing yet. > >My name is Alice West Ferguson and my brother, Rudy West participated >last >year. We match 12 out of 12 markers with James West, b. 1798, SC. We >believe >that we are connected to his first wife and children. No records of >name from >the marriage only ages. He moved to TN and later moved to MS where >he died. >I am in contact with James West descendants (2 female cousins (Mary >Hill and >Beth Strue)) who lived in TX. There is another gentleman, Joseph West > whom >we matched also. He had an extra marker, 13th marker. But we all had >12 out of >12. We think James West was related to Willis, maybe a brother or >nephew. >Maybe you can find something out since we hit a brick wall. > >We believe that we are connected to the Willis West family. My g >grandfather, Silas West lived in the same block of dwellings as his >son Lloyd West >descendants of Willis West in the Westbrook Township, Sampson Co., >NC. > >How does one get families to take the DNA test? Its really easy. >The four >of us chipped into together and paid for out DNA test. > >Alice WEST Ferguson ... W53 WEST DNA PROJECT > >Descendant of Silas West b. abt. 1832, NC > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. >For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address.

    04/04/2006 12:52:51
    1. Re: [WEST-L] West families of Estill, Madison, Clark & Montgomery, KY
    2. There seem to be quite a few Willis West?? Does anyone know how many there are at this point. The West from Sampson County are looking for Willis West, b. abt. 1755. He resided in Westbrook Township, Sampson County before moving to Fayette or Fayette County, GA. Some of his children went to GA and some children stayed behind. He was married twice with 20 children. ten childne for each wife so I understand. . I am so looking for a connection between Willis West and James West, b. 1798, SC. I have found 3 cousins who matched 12 out of 12 Markers after one of their male cousins took the WEST DNA test. To cousins are connected to James West and another cousin who had 12 marker out of 13 markers that matched us, also. Thanks, Alice West Ferguson .. W53 WEST DNA PROJECT Descendant of SIlas West b. abt. 1832, NC..

    04/04/2006 08:18:41
    1. RE: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ?
    2. Billy D. Carr
    3. What I generally do is type in county names or first names of people I am researching. Say you are looking for immigration information, when did my family come here, type in immigrate or some form of the word and if there are any posts with that word they are displayed. Billy Carr -----Original Message----- From: PalTia@aol.com [mailto:PalTia@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:50 AM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ? _http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WEST_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WEST) Wow.. Thank you! Now I can delete all those extra emails :) Thanks a million for all the help. I haven't been doing the Rootsweb thing too long. I did post on it a few years ago but didn't save the url and never could find my way back, or even remember where to go to find it or what the name was.. And then when I found it again I was determined to bookmark it and keep it where I could find it. I havn't been part of the lists too long, but I'm learning more about using them. Thank you again for your information :) I'll go check it all out. :) Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address.

    04/04/2006 06:53:19
    1. RE: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ?
    2. Myra Chambers
    3. The threaded archives for all Rootsweb lists can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index Type West in the box for the name of the list you want. Myra Chambers List Administrator > [Original Message] > From: <PalTia@aol.com> > To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/4/2006 6:17:56 AM > Subject: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ? > > Hi Everyone. I was wondering if there are archives for the West-L? I have > too many emails in my mailbox, but since I have just started researching my lone > west person I didn't want to delete them...just in case...you know. LOL I > can put them into my saved section, but on the other hand, I don't want to have > it taking up my hd space either. > > So my question is - If I delete all these emails that I don't think match my > West, will they be lost forever?? > > > Barb :) > Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Become a transcriber for the Census Project. > www.us-census.org >

    04/04/2006 04:22:30
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ?
    2. _http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WEST_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WEST) Wow.. Thank you! Now I can delete all those extra emails :) Thanks a million for all the help. I haven't been doing the Rootsweb thing too long. I did post on it a few years ago but didn't save the url and never could find my way back, or even remember where to go to find it or what the name was.. And then when I found it again I was determined to bookmark it and keep it where I could find it. I havn't been part of the lists too long, but I'm learning more about using them. Thank you again for your information :) I'll go check it all out. :) Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams

    04/04/2006 02:50:04
    1. Re: [WEST-L] Questions for Dennis - re DNA testing
    2. Dennis West
    3. Sandra and all, First, I have corrected the error pointed out by Mike concerning cost of the DNA test, and thanked him for his help. Sandra's Questions: > "W59 was added to this family group on 3 May 2005. He matches other > members of Family Group #5 on all markers tested, indicating that he > shares a common ancestor with that group. His oldest identified > ancestor is Robert West, born about 1834 in Hanover County Virginia, > married Mary CLAYTON. Robert WEST was African-American, but we are > unsure at present whether he was born in slavery. It is likely that > his father or grandfather was a slave owner or overseer." > > If W59 is descended from an African American...why would his Haplo > group be R1b? Wouldn't it have showed that at least a part of him > came out of Africa whether his ancestor was a slave or freedman and > born in this country? Is W59 an African American? W59 is african american. We are testing the Y-chromosome, which is passed from father to son - grandson- g gson etc. unchanged. The Y-chromosome carried by W59 was most likely from a European male who fathered a male ancestor of W59. All of the other 22 chromosomes of W59 are a blend of african and european gene pools, but his y chromosome is unchanged from his direct paternal ancestor. > and ....... > > In WEST family group 1 - > > "Samples W02, W05, W15, and W57 have a very rare marker at DYS 426. > The value of 14 for DYS 426 has been found in only 5 of over 12,000 > DNA samples analyzed by FTDNA's testing lab." > > What does this "rarity" indicate? This "rare" value for DYS 426 has no special significance. The DNA genes or "markers" used for genealogy have no known effect on physical characteristics. They are sometimes called "junk" DNA, because they don't appear to do anything, or even be necessary for normal function. For this family, the extremely rare value for DYS426 is almost like having a private family marker, that no one else has. Some people have DNA matches to many people with different surnames. Any exact DNA match for family group #1 is probably going to be related. > I am a little overwhelmed that so many West lines have been identified > as separate from one another. Jeeeeeeeze! I had no idea. I tried > to go back and find the exact number of lines but my eyes are crossed > from reading so much. VBG I think it was 50+ or so. 83 male WEST's with complete DNA test results. 39 unrelated (by DNA analysis) WEST lines. That's why our genealogy is so difficult, lots of unrelated lines, all using the same given names. The DNA test helps us eliminate lines, and sorts us into family groups. DNA testing is the most powerful scientific tool we have ever had for our genealogy research. Exciting times are ahead for all of us. Dennis West, W01 WEST DNA project co-admin

    04/04/2006 02:28:53
    1. RE: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ?
    2. Billy D. Carr
    3. I should have also said that if you go to this address: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=WEST You can search for specific keywords through the entire database; you do not have to physically read each email. However, the reading of each email is where you find many unexpected clues to your research. You can do this for any Rootsweb email list if you start here! http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Good Luck! -----Original Message----- From: Billy D. Carr [mailto:cbilly@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:30 AM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ? http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WEST/ -----Original Message----- From: PalTia@aol.com [mailto:PalTia@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:16 AM To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WEST-L] Are there Archives for the West-L ? Hi Everyone. I was wondering if there are archives for the West-L? I have too many emails in my mailbox, but since I have just started researching my lone west person I didn't want to delete them...just in case...you know. LOL I can put them into my saved section, but on the other hand, I don't want to have it taking up my hd space either. So my question is - If I delete all these emails that I don't think match my West, will they be lost forever?? Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Williams ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org ==== WEST Mailing List ==== Become a transcriber for the Census Project. www.us-census.org

    04/04/2006 01:43:50