I have a GRIFFITH line from United Kingdom to Canada to WA to CA that go back to Francis WEST. GRIFFITH is on my father's side through his mother's mother, Margret Maria (GRIFFITH) SHEPPARD, b. in Ontario, Canada. Edith (Kendrick) Gomez Sandra <clanmother@bresnan.net> wrote: Hello Alice, Dennis and everyone - I have enclosed a link to my West line at the bottom of this email. There are around 14 generations. I have proven this line from Francis all the way down but there is much confusion as to who his father was. I am hoping that some of the West's descendants (de le Warr) from the Jamestown Virginia group have had their DNA done. My instincts tell me that we are no relation at all but some cousins insist that royalty and castles await us. Actually I think we are more than likely castle trash (peasants VBG) and I like that. On my mother's side I am supposed from the tri-isolate group called Melungeons. On another side I go back to the Vikings according to Burke's Peerage, The Anglo Saxon chronicles and the Eddas. Plus, I have an aunt that is so dark, they called her "black Betty" her entire life. My sister has Africa in her hair - we had to press it on the ironing board to straighten it. LOL After reading as much on DNA/genealogy as I can, I have this need to know what groups I have in me. This may sound far out but I also believe in genetic memory. Afterall, isn't memory just a cell? Could be wrong. I will check that site out Dennis and thanks so much for sending it along. I would hope that with so many testing facilities now that prices would come down. I keep thinking about the Ice Man they found and were able to get dna from. Who do they test against with the West's and do they know how many lines they have coming down from different West men? In my heart I believe that all of these DNA projects that are taking place are the key to our survival on this planet. It pleases me to be on the planet at the same time with all of you searchers. Thanks for sharing. As for the missing thumbs, webbed problems, look at Ann Boleyn, she was poly-dactyl with six fingers on one hand so perhaps your royalty is showing. VBG Here's the link - hope it helps someone. It is my no mean perfect - I posted it 10 years ago and make changes as I find the need to. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/r/o/Sandra-W-Prowell/GENE1-0001.html if this doesn't work - let me know and I will get it to you some other way. Sandra in Montana ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send a post to Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

I have RH-negative blood. My West line goes back to Accomack Virginia in the 1600's. My great grandmother was Frances Bertha West, dau. of Philip Parker West. Philip Parker was born in Accomack 1803. His father was Alexander, his grandfather another Philip Parker, and on back. I have been told we have Indian blood, but I haven't seen any teeth like mentioned. No crooked little fingers that I know of. Karon Howatt Mazie ----- Original Message ----- From: ahsenpink@comcast.net To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West I, too, have RH-negative blood. I have, however, been unable to trace my West line before my great, great grandmother Mariah Jane West. Clara -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Edith Gomez <eda_66_go@yahoo.com> > We are WEST descendants, born of Manning-Kendrick line in WA. My grandmother, > Pirley 'Pearl' Andrew (West) Manning, is where our West line starts. Her father > was James Madison WEST, b. Aug 1818 in TN and died bef. 1920 in Marshall Co., > MS. I have two family members with RH-negative blood, my older sister in CA and > a niece in WA. My question is will that help in finding our West connection > better? I have been told there could be indian in one of my lines, Manning or > West or Ragsdale. We have for the most part high cheek bones as well. I have > an uncle, Hugh West Manning, that really looks like he could be of indian blood. > > Edith (Kendrick) Gomez > > Dennis E Helsel <jhelsel@buckeye-express.com> wrote: > > I too am a West, and have A neg blood type, the only one of three > kids. My gg. uncle, Fisher C. West, from Indiana purshased guite a > bit of land in Missouri during the early 1900's and I'm sure some > West's moved south. My gg grandfther, Ira Allen West and family left > Dekalb Cty In. for Oklahoma in 1886, settling in southcentral Ks. and > then parts of Oklahoma. > ---- Original Message ---- > From: AnneMaloof@msn.com > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:53:16 -0700 > > >My brickwall is George Shelton West (married to Bethann), father of > >John Thomas West, Conf. vet (POW) from Cass Co., MO, double GG uncle. > > This family had land in what is known as the Westport part of KC. > >Geo. was born en route to MO through KY. I have a photo of him (very > >tall). > > > >I also have A- and a crooked little finger. West is on my father's > >mother's side with Kimberlins, Griffiths, Blairs. My father's > >father's people were Sextons, Matthews, Prowells, Greens (Indian), > >Whites, Duskys. His first cousin also has A-. All also from Boone > >Co., MO, Madison Co., KY before. > > > >My mother was more recently Irish & German: Donovan, Lause, Gresner, > >Baker/Boecker. She also was A-. > > > >Anything ring a bell? Where are your Wests from? > > > > > >Anne (Sexton) Maloof > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandra > > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > > > > > > I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been > >tested. I > > have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape > >done, we > > are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as > >far as > > testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in > >my line, > > at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and > >I'm Rh-A > > neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little > >fingers. > > Go figure. Might be fun. > > > > Sandra > > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > > Families are like fudge. > > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > > > > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== > >Families are like fudge. > >Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to > Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com

We are WEST descendants, born of Manning-Kendrick line in WA. My grandmother, Pirley 'Pearl' Andrew (West) Manning, is where our West line starts. Her father was James Madison WEST, b. Aug 1818 in TN and died bef. 1920 in Marshall Co., MS. I have two family members with RH-negative blood, my older sister in CA and a niece in WA. My question is will that help in finding our West connection better? I have been told there could be indian in one of my lines, Manning or West or Ragsdale. We have for the most part high cheek bones as well. I have an uncle, Hugh West Manning, that really looks like he could be of indian blood. Edith (Kendrick) Gomez Dennis E Helsel <jhelsel@buckeye-express.com> wrote: I too am a West, and have A neg blood type, the only one of three kids. My gg. uncle, Fisher C. West, from Indiana purshased guite a bit of land in Missouri during the early 1900's and I'm sure some West's moved south. My gg grandfther, Ira Allen West and family left Dekalb Cty In. for Oklahoma in 1886, settling in southcentral Ks. and then parts of Oklahoma. ---- Original Message ---- From: AnneMaloof@msn.com To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:53:16 -0700 >My brickwall is George Shelton West (married to Bethann), father of >John Thomas West, Conf. vet (POW) from Cass Co., MO, double GG uncle. > This family had land in what is known as the Westport part of KC. >Geo. was born en route to MO through KY. I have a photo of him (very >tall). > >I also have A- and a crooked little finger. West is on my father's >mother's side with Kimberlins, Griffiths, Blairs. My father's >father's people were Sextons, Matthews, Prowells, Greens (Indian), >Whites, Duskys. His first cousin also has A-. All also from Boone >Co., MO, Madison Co., KY before. > >My mother was more recently Irish & German: Donovan, Lause, Gresner, >Baker/Boecker. She also was A-. > >Anything ring a bell? Where are your Wests from? > > >Anne (Sexton) Maloof > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandra > To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > > > I don't know if anyone down from your Willis West line has been >tested. I > have one brother that if we can talk him into having a cheek scrape >done, we > are going to test, It's hard to know which outfit to go with as >far as > testing. Some of the sites do list West names but none that are in >my line, > at least I think not. We have definite medical things going on and >I'm Rh-A > neg blood type and for some reason we all have crooked little >fingers. > Go figure. Might be fun. > > Sandra > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > > >==== WEST Mailing List ==== >Families are like fudge. >Mostly sweet with a few nuts. ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Good Sandra, Keep me posted on the crooked finger. I would like to know also. ew

Please send the information. Have your family participated in the West DNA test yet. That really helps your chances of finding your relatives. I can only go back to my g grandfather. He died before the birth and death certificates were issues which was 1913 in Sampson County, NC. Alice

Jack, Did your Roland West come from OK. by any chance? Carl West, Up the road in Addy, Wa. http://indiancreekturkeycalls.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack L Welch" <jwelch3@juno.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [WEST-L] Willis West > Sandra > My mother was a WEST, her father ROLAND WEST came from a large family, I > also have crooked little fingers. I had the Right one amputated > a few years ago because it was bent clear down to the palm. Now the LH is > slowly doing the same. My surgeon explained this as Dupytrens > Contracture, resulting in 6 separate surgeries. > > Jack > Newman Lake, WA USA > > > > >

I've had exactly two people in my life spot my (perhaps 1/64th, perhaps twice that) Cherokee ancestry. I have light brown, fine, wavy hair, fair skin and green eyes. Not exactly obvious. One was my high school biology teacher, one was an oral surgeon. The teacher said it was the jaw, the oral surgeon was looking at an x-ray of my jaw at the time (for implants, I don't think he was scrutinizing my teeth. The remark came right after he said that I had "plenty of room"). On 4/7/06, P44848@aol.com <P44848@aol.com> wrote: > > While attending the University of Oklahoma it was pointed out to me by an > arachologly major that I was Indian. He had worked in his department on > the > Spiro Mound located in eastern Oklahoma. Yes, it was the teeth, they are > like > shovels on the inside. > > Paula W. > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a post to <WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > For Digest substitute the letter D for the L in the address. > >

I am very interested in this crooked little finger thing. Both of mine are crooked and I just thought it was a birth defect or something.My ggrandmother was a West. please let me know if you find info on this. Carolyn Hatten-Gough

While attending the University of Oklahoma it was pointed out to me by an arachologly major that I was Indian. He had worked in his department on the Spiro Mound located in eastern Oklahoma. Yes, it was the teeth, they are like shovels on the inside. Paula W.

Sandra My mother was a WEST, her father ROLAND WEST came from a large family, I also have crooked little fingers. I had the Right one amputated a few years ago because it was bent clear down to the palm. Now the LH is slowly doing the same. My surgeon explained this as Dupytrens Contracture, resulting in 6 separate surgeries. Jack Newman Lake, WA USA On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:48:51 -0600 "Sandra" <clanmother@bresnan.net> writes: > Ya' know I think I'll do a little research on all of this. There are > groups > of anthropologist on-line and it's time to pick their brains. I'm > not sure > little fingers that are crooked are all that common either. But > lets see > where this goes. > > Sandra > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > Families are like fudge. > Mostly sweet with a few nuts. > > >

Researching: West-Moss-Harless-Burch-Campbell-Pringle-Stuart-Lewin-Looney-and many more. Would like to hear from anyone with information on any of the above names. ew

Sandra, I believe crooked little fingers are very common. My old GYN told me I must be related to his wife because her little finger was crooked. I was very young and did not ask him his wife'a maiden name and he has been dead for years. However it may not be as common as we think. ew

At one of our genealogy meetings we had a member that gave us a talk on having a dentist check our biscupid (teeth) an it would show if their ancestors had Indian blood in their ancestors. He is the only one that I have ever heard say that, and I ask my dentist and he had not heard it either. Soooo is it true or not????? I don't know. He was selling his book he wrote also, so he may have had the dentist's name in it. ew

Ya' know I think I'll do a little research on all of this. There are groups of anthropologist on-line and it's time to pick their brains. I'm not sure little fingers that are crooked are all that common either. But lets see where this goes. Sandra

In a message dated 4/3/06 9:17:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, clanmother@bresnan.net writes: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/r/o/Sandra-W-Prowell/GENE1-0001.html > > Sandra, I have a Matt in my West line. I do not have it in here tonight and it is too late to go get it. Matt West is buried in the Silver Hill Cemetery in Jack County Texas. He at one time owned land there I believe but do not haved proof. I believe he is the son of George W. and Caroline Melinda Harless West. Does that match any of your West's. E W

I have a WEST (Mattie) born around 1865+/- who married a KING --(don't recall his name. . .I am only accessing email at work right now) -- but this is in Iowa -- turn of the century. Janice West -----Original Message----- >From: Victoria West <vawest@rochester.rr.com> >Sent: Apr 5, 2006 3:18 AM >To: WEST-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [WEST-L] Willis West Att:Debra > >Hi Debra, > >I am interested in you WEST and KING. >My Great-Grand father had a friend with the last name of King when he came >to the US in 1923. >Do you have West in your family??? > >Vicki > >

Hi Jinny - I believe, and I will have verify this, that I read about the blood types in The Seven Daughter of Eve. If you have not read that book yet, do so. It's really wonderful and reads like a novel but chock full of information. I will check that for sure and let you know. How scooped are the teeth? I think noticeably concave. There's also something about the back of the head where there is a ridge right before the skull attaches to the spine. It's called the something ridge. Let me look that up also. I retain information pretty well but never remember where I found it. LOL We are rare. When I became pregnant I had to go through all of the shots and stay in bed - They were called Coombs somethings. I believe it was an anti-body but could be wrong. Sandra West Prowell

Vicki, Here are a couple of websites where you can view or gives information about the various Indian Rolls that were made over the years, including Dawes, Guion Miller, Armstrong, Baker, Kern, Ute and Wallace Indian Rolls: http://www.archives.gov/research/native-americans/ http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php Good Luck, Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria West" <vawest@rochester.rr.com> To: <WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: [WEST-L] Finding American Indian names > Hi > > How would I find out about a specific American Indian name. > > Vicki > > > ==== WEST Mailing List ==== > To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to > Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Alice, Can you provide me with the names of this Willis West's spouses and the children, or point me to a link with more information for this line? Has anyone found that the name "Willis" is showing up predominantly in only a few lines? ... Only certain geographical areas? Or does it seem to be more randomly used? Teresa Aliworksinc1@aol.com wrote: There seem to be quite a few Willis West?? Does anyone know how many there are at this point. The West from Sampson County are looking for Willis West, b. abt. 1755. He resided in Westbrook Township, Sampson County before moving to Fayette or Fayette County, GA. Some of his children went to GA and some children stayed behind. He was married twice with 20 children. ten childne for each wife so I understand. . I am so looking for a connection between Willis West and James West, b. 1798, SC. I have found 3 cousins who matched 12 out of 12 Markers after one of their male cousins took the WEST DNA test. To cousins are connected to James West and another cousin who had 12 marker out of 13 markers that matched us, also. Thanks, Alice West Ferguson .. W53 WEST DNA PROJECT Descendant of SIlas West b. abt. 1832, NC.. ==== WEST Mailing List ==== To contact WEST-L listowner send a post to Myra Chambers at WEST-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Hi How would I find out about a specific American Indian name. Vicki