G�day While helping on another project I had my first experience of the surviving shipping records and indents of convicts tried Bristol and GLS who were transported to VDL (Tasmania). These are of differing quality; for some reason far fewer full indents survive than for NSW transportees, though where they exist they are excellent. Also for some transports there survive lists of personal baggage brought with them by the convicts, and details of any valuables (money, rings etc) that they may have had with them which were lodged with the ship�s surgeon during the voyage - fascinating stuff. For my own index I was interested to compare the stated Native Place of those tried Gloucester with the place given as "address" in Wyatt's "GLS Transportees". These are the indent details given for those tried Gloucester who were transported to TAS per �Andromeda� arriving 23 Feb 1827. I have not copied all info given (such as descriptions) but have included details of interest or those which may help in identification. NP = native place Peter ALDRIDGE aged 25, shepherd & sheep shearer. NP Horsley [Wyatt says Nailsworth]. Married with 2 chn. Crime: stealing fowls - 7 years. Previously convicted at Gloucester for stealing a coat - sentence 6 weeks; for stealing fowls - sentence 9 months. Charles BESSELL aged 20, shoemaker & servant. NP Bristol. Single. Crime : burglary - tried with GROVES, DENNER & EVANS - Life. James BUTLER, aged 22, groom & jockey. NP Ennis, Co Clare. Single. Crime: stealing in a dwelling house - Life. William CHIVERS aged 24, postman & groom. NP Melksham, WIL. Single. Crime: burglary - Life. John CONSTABLE, aged 39, sawyer - top & bottom. NP Lechlade. Married with 1 child. Crime: burglary - Life. William CURTIS aged 27, groom & coachman. NP Kilkenny. Single. Crime: burglary - Life. John DENNER aged 19, blacksmith�s lad. NP Bristol. Single. Crime: burglary - tried with EVANS, BESSELL & GROVES - Life. Previously convicted at Bristol of stealing copper coins to the value of 8/-; 8 months. William EVANS aged 21, house painter. NP Bristol. Single. Crime: burglary, tried with GROVES, BESSELL & DENNER - Life. George GREENWOOD aged 17, bargeman. NP Gloucester. [Wyatt says Hull YKS]. Crime: stealing boat oars? - 7 years. Richard GROVES aged 23, shoemaker. NP Exeter. [Wyatt says St Peter�s Bristol]. Crime: burglary - tried with EVANS, BESSELL & DENNER - Life. William HARRIS aged 24, lime burner, farmer & ploughman. NP Gloucestershire [Wyatt says English Bicknor]. Single. Crime: sheep stealing - Life. Joseph HATHERILL aged 26, labourer. NP Horsley [Wyatt says Uley]. Single. Crime: burglary - Life Robert HYETT aged 22, ploughman, shepherd & shearer. NP Gloucester City [Wyatt says Blakeney]. Single. Crime: stealing from person to the value of 8/6 - Life. Previously convicted of absconding from service - sentence 3 weeks. Had deserted from 28 th Regt when taken for this offence. Thomas JAMES aged 18, labourer & japanner. NP Bristol. Single. Crime: burglary - Life. Tried before at Gloucester for picking pockets but acquitted. James JONES aged 30, book keeper. NP Macather? Embling, Glamorgan [Wyatt says Newcastle, Carmarthen]. Crime: horse stealing - Life. George KING aged 20, groom. NP Gloucester [Wyatt says Cheltenham]. Single. Crime: stealing in a dwelling house - Life. Thomas MILLARD aged 28, farmer & ploughman, a shepherd for 9 years. NP Tytherington GLS. Single. Crime: burglary - Life. Previously convicted of burglary - sentence 2 years. John MILLS aged 17, labourer. NP Yate. Crime: stealing geese - 7 years. Thomas PEGLER aged 26, farmer & ploughman. NP Dodington [Wyatt says Dyrham & Hinton]. Married; 1 child. Crime: highway robbery - tried with TURNER - Life. Previous conviction for assault - fined 20/- George PRICE aged 18, weaver. NP Eastington. Single. Crime: burglary - Life. Previously convicted at Gloucester for stealing a watch - 18 months. William SAXTON aged 34, upholsterer. NP Shrewsbury. Crime: stealing in a dwelling house to the value of 40/-; Life. A soldier in the 32 Regt 19th Dragoons for 14 years. Single. James TURNER aged 41, farmer & ploughman. NP Boxwell [Wyatt says Leighterton]. Widowed; 5 chn. Crime: highway robbery - tried with PEGLER - Life. Previously imprisoned for 1 month for absconding. William WALLINGTON aged 24, shoemaker. NP Hillesley. Married, 1 child. Crime: burglary - Life. John WATKINS, aged 21, edge tool maker & blacksmith. NP Stroudwater [Wyatt says Randwick]. Single. Crime: stealing in a dwelling house - Life. Previously convicted of stealing a shirt - 1 week; stealing edge tools - 2 months. So we have a sample of 24 men tried at Gloucester during 1826. All received life sentences, except 3 tried for (seemingly) very minor offences who received 7 year sentences. Almost all their crimes were stealing from a dwelling house, or burglary (burglary was the crime of entering a building AT NIGHT with intent to commit a felony). Of those for whom status was given, 5 were said to be married or widowed. Most were of the ag lab, shoemaker, servant calling, although there were a few tradesmen - blacksmith, sawyer, house painter, and 1 book keeper. There are substantial differences between the convict indents and Wyatt here; my thought would be that Wyatt records occupation at time of trial, while indent records everything that they were capable of, in an attempt to guide potential employers in TAS. 5 were aged under 20, 16 were aged 20-30, 2 were aged 30-40, and 1 over 40. Only about 1 in 3 had been before the courts before; we are often told that transportees were hardened criminals! Although tried at Gloucester 6 were born outside the county. There are some differences between the native place given on the indent and the �addresses� as given in Wyatt [which are described as EITHER parishes of settlement OR places of temporary residence OR of origin]. Some of these are a matter of a different village a few miles away but some are substantial. All these men born GLS will have an entry on my GLS Immigrants to Australia pre 1888 Index and I would welcome more info. Regards Kaye Kaye Purnell <kayepur@ozemail.com.au> Ancestors from GLS who came to Oz? Database kept on GLS arrivals to AUS pre 1888. Entries happily accepted; searches done. Visit my site at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kayepur>. Snail mail to 15 Balla Machree Way, Gymea Bay NSW 2227 AUS, including SSAE or 1 IRC.