I am not a participating member, but have a deep interest in genealogy and family history. I am American and would like to send my deepest sympathies to any of those who have been hurt or affected by the barbaric act you've suffered in London today. May God bless you and keep you at this time in particular. I continue to question when this horror will end. Most sincerely....Elizabeth Watkins Barner, Watkins Family History Society. ----- Original Message ----- From: Knightroots@aol.com<mailto:Knightroots@aol.com> To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:55 AM Subject: [WSX] Society of Genealogists Due to the events in London this morning the Society has decided to close until 10am Tuesday 12th July. All staff are safe and accounted for. Our website has also been updated. Thanks John Hanson Chairman, Operations Committee Society of Genealogists, London ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== A master chef - always checks his sauces A good genealogist - always checks his sources

Due to the events in London this morning the Society has decided to close until 10am Tuesday 12th July. All staff are safe and accounted for. Our website has also been updated. Thanks John Hanson Chairman, Operations Committee Society of Genealogists, London

Thanks Celia, Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Mycock" <celiam@supanet.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 05 July 2005 09:26 Subject: Re: [WSX] ELLEN > The registers c.1800 will be in the Record Office at Trowbridge - > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Devizes/index.htm has some information > on Devizes and links. > > The Wiltshire Community History (a great resource for Wiltshire > places/parishes!) page for Devizes is > here: http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getcom2.php?id=77 > I''m afraid I don't have local knowledge of Devizes though, so perhaps > someone else on the list can help you more ... > Best wishes, > Celia > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe text - do NOT spread virus warnings on the list. > Email the list administrators if you have any concerns > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005

The registers c.1800 will be in the Record Office at Trowbridge - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Devizes/index.htm has some information on Devizes and links. The Wiltshire Community History (a great resource for Wiltshire places/parishes!) page for Devizes is here: http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getcom2.php?id=77 I''m afraid I don't have local knowledge of Devizes though, so perhaps someone else on the list can help you more ... Best wishes, Celia

Hi Meg I'll just butt in here with one answer to your query re location of records. If you have a LDS Family History centre within travelling distance for you parish records and/or bishop's transcripts can be ordered for the churches in Devizes. Many churches are listed on the LDS web site http://www.familysearch.org under the library section and you can also look to see where the nearest LDS centre to you is located. Two Church of England churches mentioned that cover the early 1880s are St Mary's and St John the Baptist. There are also Presbyterian, Congregational, Baptist and more churches mentioned for that time period. If you are not used to searching on their site let me know and I can help you navigate it. I use their facilities frequently because there is access to so many church records as well as other records through their filming projects for just a nominal handling charge for one month. Good luck Marjorie >Thank you so much for this information. I did have some of it, particularly >during their period in London but is very helpful to have some feel for >where Eliza was at each census. I now have the death certs of all three >(Joseph, Ann and Eliza) and you are right in all your comments. I have >never been able to pin down Joseph's parents. Do you know if there are any >local records for the period he was born (1800ish)? > >Regards, Meg

Hi Celia, Thank you so much for this information. I did have some of it, particularly during their period in London but is very helpful to have some feel for where Eliza was at each census. I now have the death certs of all three (Joseph, Ann and Eliza) and you are right in all your comments. I have never been able to pin down Joseph's parents. Do you know if there are any local records for the period he was born (1800ish)? Regards, Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Mycock" <celiam@supanet.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 July 2005 11:09 Subject: Re: [WSX] ELLEN > In the 1881 census Eliza ELLEN was actually at a place named St > Bartholomew's Home in/on Old Park in Devizes (St John's parish) - the > address is now Hartmoor Road, south-west of Devizes town centre. "None" is > stated in the occupation column and her age is clearly shown as 56. > > It appears to have been a private residential home - the head is a matron > and there are 2 domestic servants plus five girls aged between 10 and 14 > whose occupation is shown as "Industrial", and then Eliza ELLEN unm aged > 56, blind. The next enumerated address is Old Park House, a rather grand > establishment (now a listed building), so possibly St Bartholomew's Home > was a charity supported by the family living there, headed by a Harriette > SMITH aged 86, landowner. > > Eliza ELLEN is not in the 1891 census as her death is registered in Q. > March 1888 aged 58 in Devizes (GRO ref. 5a 70.) > > In 1871 however she was in the (probably) rather less comfortable Union > Workhouse, St James, Devizes - unmarried, aged 40, born Andover, Hants, and > blind. > > In 1861 she was unmarried, aged 29, no occupation and blind, living on Pans > Lane, Chapelry of St James, Devizes - with her parents Joseph ELLEN 59, a > woolstapler, born Devizes, and her mother Ann 56 born Andover, Hants. > > I thought that maybe her parents had died before 1871, but they were in > Bermondsey, Southwark - Joseph aged 69, woolstapler born Devizes and > Ann(but looks like Ada?) 56 born Andover. Also in 1881 Joseph is a lodger > at 6 Whitelocks Court St Mary's Devizes, a widower aged 80, woolstapler, > born Devizes. His death was in Q. June 1887 aged 87 in Devizes (GRO ref.5a > 56) - from www.freebmd.org.uk - and there is also a death registration for > an Ann ELLEN aged 71, in Camberwell Q. March 1876 (ref.1d 493). > > You may have had some of this information before, but hope this helps a bit. > Celia > > At 16:49 03/07/2005, you wrote: > >My great grandmother's sister was called Eliza ELLEN and in 1881 she was > >living at Old Park (Bartholomew House) Devizes, Wilts. The census gives no > >clue as to occupation and as she was blind she may not have had one. Does > >anybody have any idea what this place was? Also, if anyone has the 1871 > >census for Devizes I would be interested to know if Eliza was at the same > >address. All the evidence indicates that she was born in 1831 in Andover, > >Hants but her father was born in Devizes and the family did live there from > >time to time. The 1881 census suggests that she was born in 1825 but there > >is no other evidence to support this. Any help on the above would be very > >welcome. > > > >Meg, W. Sussex > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > > > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > >Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond > >into future years and future generations > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > The Free BMD Project: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > Hampshire Parish Register transcriptions at:www.knightroots.co.uk > www.knightroots.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005

Many thanks for this suggestion. I will do this unless someone else comes up with the answer. Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephanie cousins" <steph@cousins66.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 July 2005 17:49 Subject: RE: [WSX] ELLEN > I should contact the Wilts Family History Society > society@wiltshirefhs.co.uk Include your postal address with your email. > There is a website wiltshirefhs.co.uk > Hope this helps. I used to live in Devizes but can't remember what > Bartholomew House was. It may have been connected to the County Asylum where > all sorts of handicapped people were as well as those who were mentally > unstable. > Steph > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Murray [mailto:megmurray@lineone.net] > Sent: 03 July 2005 15:49 > To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WSX] ELLEN > > My great grandmother's sister was called Eliza ELLEN and in 1881 she was > living at Old Park (Bartholomew House) Devizes, Wilts. The census gives no > clue as to occupation and as she was blind she may not have had one. Does > anybody have any idea what this place was? Also, if anyone has the 1871 > census for Devizes I would be interested to know if Eliza was at the same > address. All the evidence indicates that she was born in 1831 in Andover, > Hants but her father was born in Devizes and the family did live there from > time to time. The 1881 census suggests that she was born in 1825 but there > is no other evidence to support this. Any help on the above would be very > welcome. > > Meg, W. Sussex > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond > into future years and future generations > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > A master chef - always checks his sauces > > A good genealogist - always checks his sources > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005

I should contact the Wilts Family History Society society@wiltshirefhs.co.uk Include your postal address with your email. There is a website wiltshirefhs.co.uk Hope this helps. I used to live in Devizes but can't remember what Bartholomew House was. It may have been connected to the County Asylum where all sorts of handicapped people were as well as those who were mentally unstable. Steph -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Murray [mailto:megmurray@lineone.net] Sent: 03 July 2005 15:49 To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] ELLEN My great grandmother's sister was called Eliza ELLEN and in 1881 she was living at Old Park (Bartholomew House) Devizes, Wilts. The census gives no clue as to occupation and as she was blind she may not have had one. Does anybody have any idea what this place was? Also, if anyone has the 1871 census for Devizes I would be interested to know if Eliza was at the same address. All the evidence indicates that she was born in 1831 in Andover, Hants but her father was born in Devizes and the family did live there from time to time. The 1881 census suggests that she was born in 1825 but there is no other evidence to support this. Any help on the above would be very welcome. Meg, W. Sussex -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond into future years and future generations

In the 1881 census Eliza ELLEN was actually at a place named St Bartholomew's Home in/on Old Park in Devizes (St John's parish) - the address is now Hartmoor Road, south-west of Devizes town centre. "None" is stated in the occupation column and her age is clearly shown as 56. It appears to have been a private residential home - the head is a matron and there are 2 domestic servants plus five girls aged between 10 and 14 whose occupation is shown as "Industrial", and then Eliza ELLEN unm aged 56, blind. The next enumerated address is Old Park House, a rather grand establishment (now a listed building), so possibly St Bartholomew's Home was a charity supported by the family living there, headed by a Harriette SMITH aged 86, landowner. Eliza ELLEN is not in the 1891 census as her death is registered in Q. March 1888 aged 58 in Devizes (GRO ref. 5a 70.) In 1871 however she was in the (probably) rather less comfortable Union Workhouse, St James, Devizes - unmarried, aged 40, born Andover, Hants, and blind. In 1861 she was unmarried, aged 29, no occupation and blind, living on Pans Lane, Chapelry of St James, Devizes - with her parents Joseph ELLEN 59, a woolstapler, born Devizes, and her mother Ann 56 born Andover, Hants. I thought that maybe her parents had died before 1871, but they were in Bermondsey, Southwark - Joseph aged 69, woolstapler born Devizes and Ann(but looks like Ada?) 56 born Andover. Also in 1881 Joseph is a lodger at 6 Whitelocks Court St Mary's Devizes, a widower aged 80, woolstapler, born Devizes. His death was in Q. June 1887 aged 87 in Devizes (GRO ref.5a 56) - from www.freebmd.org.uk - and there is also a death registration for an Ann ELLEN aged 71, in Camberwell Q. March 1876 (ref.1d 493). You may have had some of this information before, but hope this helps a bit. Celia At 16:49 03/07/2005, you wrote: >My great grandmother's sister was called Eliza ELLEN and in 1881 she was >living at Old Park (Bartholomew House) Devizes, Wilts. The census gives no >clue as to occupation and as she was blind she may not have had one. Does >anybody have any idea what this place was? Also, if anyone has the 1871 >census for Devizes I would be interested to know if Eliza was at the same >address. All the evidence indicates that she was born in 1831 in Andover, >Hants but her father was born in Devizes and the family did live there from >time to time. The 1881 census suggests that she was born in 1825 but there >is no other evidence to support this. Any help on the above would be very >welcome. > >Meg, W. Sussex > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== >Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond >into future years and future generations

My great grandmother's sister was called Eliza ELLEN and in 1881 she was living at Old Park (Bartholomew House) Devizes, Wilts. The census gives no clue as to occupation and as she was blind she may not have had one. Does anybody have any idea what this place was? Also, if anyone has the 1871 census for Devizes I would be interested to know if Eliza was at the same address. All the evidence indicates that she was born in 1831 in Andover, Hants but her father was born in Devizes and the family did live there from time to time. The 1881 census suggests that she was born in 1825 but there is no other evidence to support this. Any help on the above would be very welcome. Meg, W. Sussex -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005

"unsubscribe" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Martin-Green" <pj.martin-green@tesco.net> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:43 AM Subject: [WSX] Re: Battrick (+WILLIAMS and ALLEN in Somerset) > Dear Sally and all, > I saw your interest in WILLIAMS and ALLEN in Somerset > earlier this month. > My great great grandmother was Mary Ann Williams who was > born about 1829 at Freshford near Bradford-on-Avon in Wiltshire. She > married John Humphries (junior) in 1851 and they lived at Hinton > Charterhouse near Bath in Somerset. Mary Ann's father and grandfather > were > both Robert Williams' from Ditcheat, Somerset but I don't know from where > the Williams family originated. > My great great great grandmother was Mary Allen who was > born > about 1795 at Hinton Charterhouse and married in 1820 there to John > Humphries (senior). Mary's ancestors were (probably) George, John and > William Allen taking it back to about 1680 at Hinton Charterhouse. > Where in Somerset do your Williams and Allen families live > ? > Perhaps you would be willing to share some more information. > Regards, Jacqueline. > Interests: Allen, Batchelor, Bath, Bennett, Burfitt, > Curtis, > Dicks, Evans, Francis, Fulford, Gailer, Gilbert, Goodwin, Green, > Humphries, > Keeping, Knight, Langridge, Legrove, Pollard, Ramseur, Smith, Stacey, > Starks, Swift, Williams. > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:02 PM >> Subject: Battrick >> Hi List >> just reposting interests:- >> >> Trevett - Dorset - Dorchester & Weymouth districts >> Battrick - Dorset - Dorchester districts >> Hammett - Dorset - all, Wiltshire, Worcester >> Pearce - Dorset >> Gale - Dorset >> Collis - Dorset - Hermitage >> Lester - Dorset - Fordington >> Legg - Dorset - Turnerspuddle, Affpuddle, > Briantspuddle >> Sexey - Dorset - Affpuddle & Lancashire >> Cox - Hants >> Jarvis - Somerset >> Williams - Somerset >> Nipper - Somerset >> Allen - Somerset >> Benoke - Somerset & Devon >> Payne - Somerset >> >> Regrds >> Sally > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe text - do NOT spread virus warnings on the list. > Email the list administrators if you have any concerns > >

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Dear Sally and all, I saw your interest in WILLIAMS and ALLEN in Somerset earlier this month. My great great grandmother was Mary Ann Williams who was born about 1829 at Freshford near Bradford-on-Avon in Wiltshire. She married John Humphries (junior) in 1851 and they lived at Hinton Charterhouse near Bath in Somerset. Mary Ann's father and grandfather were both Robert Williams' from Ditcheat, Somerset but I don't know from where the Williams family originated. My great great great grandmother was Mary Allen who was born about 1795 at Hinton Charterhouse and married in 1820 there to John Humphries (senior). Mary's ancestors were (probably) George, John and William Allen taking it back to about 1680 at Hinton Charterhouse. Where in Somerset do your Williams and Allen families live ? Perhaps you would be willing to share some more information. Regards, Jacqueline. Interests: Allen, Batchelor, Bath, Bennett, Burfitt, Curtis, Dicks, Evans, Francis, Fulford, Gailer, Gilbert, Goodwin, Green, Humphries, Keeping, Knight, Langridge, Legrove, Pollard, Ramseur, Smith, Stacey, Starks, Swift, Williams. > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:02 PM > Subject: Battrick > Hi List > just reposting interests:- > > Trevett - Dorset - Dorchester & Weymouth districts > Battrick - Dorset - Dorchester districts > Hammett - Dorset - all, Wiltshire, Worcester > Pearce - Dorset > Gale - Dorset > Collis - Dorset - Hermitage > Lester - Dorset - Fordington > Legg - Dorset - Turnerspuddle, Affpuddle, Briantspuddle > Sexey - Dorset - Affpuddle & Lancashire > Cox - Hants > Jarvis - Somerset > Williams - Somerset > Nipper - Somerset > Allen - Somerset > Benoke - Somerset & Devon > Payne - Somerset > > Regrds > Sally

Hello, I've just joined this list and a couple of others in the area. My name is Michel and am presently in S. Africa (I'm from N. America originally). Being in S. Africa, I didn't have internet for about 5 years but this year that has been rectified. My great-grandfather was from Taunton, Somerset, from the Badcock and Metford families (Ellis families came from Devon). I have a tremendous amount on the Metfords (most were Quaker) and I've been able to trace back to the 17th century on many lines. I've come to Taunton (and Devon) on two occasions in the 90s with my mother to look at old family homes in Taunton (Flook, Fons George and The Elms) as well as the Anderdon family in Ruishton. Also travelled to Street in Somerset and didn't quite make it to Uffculme in Devon (but we tried). But did get to Bath. If you find any METFORD he or she is probably related, but if you come across one in your files, let me know. I've been researching off and on since 1978 (I started when I was 14). From what I could tell, my people were involved in malt making, the clothing industry and have left a pretty good trail of land records. The rest of the families are as follows: Ellis and Ellis alias Salter of Uffculme and Burlescombe, DEV Metford of Taunton and Glastonbury, SOM Anderdon of Bath and Ruishton (Henlade House), SOM Badcock of Bampton, DEV, later Taunton, SOM (the Bankers) Hulet, Hulett, Hewlett and Hewlett of Street, SOM Parker of Bampton, DEV Prockter alias Mathew and Mathewe alias Prockter of Ruishton, SOM Mabson of Glaston, SOM Dinham of Taunton, SOM (allied) Button of Taunton, SOM (allied) I have other allied families (like Wright and Mallet/Mallett), but others are not my research (Clothier, Clarke, Rawes). I am grateful to Jonathan Hepworth over the years for the latter. I have Will extracts from Metford and Ellis I will share if anyone is interested. I would also like to trace back further and sort out my strays (don't we all!). Michel Metford-Platt

The following link was sent in by Edna and Ken in Ottawa - many southern counties people emigrated to Canada and many more children were compulsorily removed under the british home children scheme. _http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce117.htm_ (http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce117.htm) Linda & Tony

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Hello list, While searching the archives I came across someone called Colin who is descended from George HUSSEY from Aller, and who was in Bristol in 1881. Are you still a subscriber, Colin? I wrote to you and my mail came back. George's father Robert was my x3 gt grandfather's brother. I have lots of HUSSEY info to share. best wishes, Liz in Munich

Two Contacts on the genuk-i WILTS researchers web site are bouncing: Are either on this list, if so please E-mail me. Liam SILCOCKS Sue WARMERDAM whose ISP is not identifiable: @teleport.apana.org.au Can anyone help, please? Terry Silcock main interests in this area: SCOTTS/SCUTTS/SCOATES in north Wiltshire 1700-1900 SILCOCK/SILCOCKS/SILCOX in southern UK and emigrants to overseas. Terry Silcock

Is anyone researching the Field family from Ludgershall Wiltshire ? John Field b 1816 ( son of John Field & Martha Summerbee) married Martha in 1842 in Ludgershall . They had Maria (1839) , Sarah (1848) , Alfred (1850 in Tidworth Wilt), Eliza (1853 North Leddyt), Charles & Emma . They die in Victoria Australia . Can anyone help ? Thanks . Lynn

Hello Dave, I have Hayter's in my family. I have a Hannah Hayter, died before 9 Nov 1802 in Durnford. She married John Sopp, a blacksmith who died before 1801 (have copies of their wills). Unfortunately that's the extent of my knowledge of the Hayter's. If Hannah is mentioned or the Sopp's/Alsop in the book, please let me know. Cheers Karenn From down under -----Original Message----- From: Dave Napier [mailto:dave.napier@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 9:22 PM To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] HAYTER - family register 1795 - 1842 Hi Anyone researching HAYTER? I've recovered a book from an Oxfam shop called 'Fleetwoods Life of Christ' with a family register in the front: Josiah Hayter born Melbury 17/11/1795 Mary Hayter born Semley 6/1/1797 plus details of their 12 children all born in Donhead St Mary. Regards Dave Napier Bristol,UK dave.napier@blueyonder.co.uk www.davenapier.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== To browse or search the list ARCHIVES, SUBSCRIBE, or UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/WESSEX-PLUS.html Contact the list administrators at WESSEX-PLUS-admin@rootsweb.com