Does anyone have the 1841 for Romford Essex, I am searching for EDDISON. Many thanks, Toni

I'm an American trying to find English roots of Thomas GERMAN (or JARMAN) who resided in Maryland in the late 1600s. I would like to learn more about the Thomas GERMAN who was indentured in Bristol in 1662 and bound for Maryland. I'm wondering what became of Thomas and Henry GERMAN (or JARMAN) christened in 1632 and 1635 in Wiveliscombe, sons of William GERMAN (or JARMAN). If the William buried there in 1646 was their father then they were orphans - what records might I find of orphans in that time period? Is this the Thomas GERMAN bound for America in 1662? Where is Henry? Are there any other candidates for the 1662 Thomas GERMAN or JARMAN? Thanks.

Hi all The Hampshire Genalogical Society would like to remind you of the availability (warts and all) of the 1851 name index to the 1851 census. (full details www.hgs-online.org.uk ) This is the perfect tool to complement the recently released 1851 full census from S&N which is area and (for the larger towns, street indexed. Hope this helps Tony Knight HGS Publicity Officer

Please could SKS with access to the 1851 Bristol census images, transcribe the following reference for a family of THORNE? BRISTOL St. Mary, Redcliffe 1851 Census Gloucestershire Reference HO 107/1947 THORNE Elinor Widow/er 62 Charwoman Kingsd N Devon (1/6 and 1 loaf from the parish each week) Edward 26 Stone Mason Bristol Robert 28 Seaman Bristol Hester 26 Tailor Bristol Eliza Jane Grand Daughter 5 Bristol Elinor Daughter 24 Tailor Bristol Jane 20 Tailor Bristol I need to know if possible what relationship Hester, Jane , Edward & robert were to Elinor (62)who I would imagine appears as head of household. Many thanks Ann

Hi Linda > Take good notes for me, Paul, as I have been needing this info for a few years now. I didn't take notes at that meeting, as we have a dedicated notetaker at all society meetings. That individual prepares a resume of the presentation, which is then published in the "Oxfordshire Family Historian". All members of the society receive the "Oxfordshire Family Historian" free of charge three times per year as part of their membership. For further details of how to join OFHS, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/join.html Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Minutes Secretary and Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : www.ofhs.org.uk E-mail : publicity@ofhs.org.uk

Hi all, I have a brickwall with my great great grandfather Richard FOOT(E) (1809-1864) I can't find his birth/baptism - so can't find his parents. He married in Castleton, Dorset in 1829 a minor aged 20 - so born about 1809 but I don't think the consent, if any, has survived. On all censuses during his lifetime he claimed to have been born in Sherborne, Dorset, where he lived. Interestingly both he and his wife dropped their ages by 2 years in the 1851 and 1861 censuses but are recorded with correct ages at death. I haven't done an exhaustive search of parishes around Sherborne for a baptism but have looked at quite a number - though it's mostly the BTs available through LDS in Australia. Others have checked the Sherborne PR for me without success. I keep an eye on www.familyhistoryonline.com for updates to the Dorset Baptism index. He may be connected to the FOOT families in Sherborne who were lawyers/solicitors as one of his children became a solicitor's clerk - but this may just be coincidence. He himself was a Shopman/Draper. Any ideas welcome, Cathy

Hi Sylvia, 1) Have you looked at the various censuses? You haven't been specific enough with places to help you with this easily. Where was Agnes born? What county/counties are the places in? The only one showing in ParLoc is Ruardean in Gloucestershire. 2) When looking for Catherine - consider all variations and contractions. I come from a line of Catherine/Catharine and it was a strong family name. Most were called Kate and some registered at birth as Kate but marrying as Catherine. Some appear on censuses as Kate/Katie though most as Catherine/Catharine 3) It's unlikely that you'll find a father in this period if he's not mentioned on the birth certificate or marriage certificate. They seem to have stopped chasing the father for maintenance and started blaming the mother. Cathy At 20:32 27/07/2005, you wrote: >Hi I have a "brickwall that I`ve tried to get down for 4 years. I`m >looking for any records of my great grandmother Catherine POWELL and >the only three records that mention her are concerning her daughter >Agnes Selina POWELL. I have AGnes`s birth, marriage and death >certificates which hhave no mention of a father I only know that >Catherine was a servant at Joys Green in 1874and that in 1884 she >was desrcribed as "late of Ruardean" Agnes was born in 1874 and in >1896 married my grandfather William ALLAWAY at Lydbrook Any >suggestions as to my next move in this search@? Sylvia Morgan(nee ALLAWAY)

Hi Ian, What did you want to know? I found a birth record for Sidney in Ancestry, March quarter of 1863. I live in Australia so I help you from this end if you tell me what you need. Cheers Karenn -----Original Message----- From: Ian Goldie [mailto:ian@goldiefamily.net] Sent: Friday, 29 July 2005 4:47 AM To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] Brickwall more under a pile of stone Hi, I have been looking for so long that I have just about given up. My problem is one Sidney Bambury (1862 - 28/2/1935) he is the eldest son of Dorcas and George Bambury of Lambrook Somersetshire, I have checked all the population censors for Lambrook and around, I get all their other children Lucy, Sarah, Charles, Herbert,Florence,Edith ( my grandmother) Jacob and lastly Eliza.Sidney emigrated to Australia at the same time as the rest of the family except Jacob and Eliza who I think died before they left for South Africa some time at the turn of the century. I'm glad to have been able to share my frustration, if you can help you will make a senior citizen happy, well not quite as George's Father is also still hiding out there. All the best Ian Goldie. ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== Are they called brick walls because there is always "mortar" find Hampshire Parish Register transcriptions at:www.knightroots.co.uk www.knightroots.co.uk

Thanks Sandra, That was good advice. It gives me some hope! Cheers Karenn -----Original Message----- From: Sandra J Smith [mailto:sandra.s@ntlworld.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2005 9:20 PM To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] Brickwalls etc To all those brickwall climbers! When I first started my genealogy 40 years ago, there were no databases, few deposited registers and even fewer transcriptions of registers. So when I cane up against my "brickwalls" the investigation had to be pursued along tried and tested research procedures. Most people were living within a few miles of their parish of birth (can't remember the source of that information, but I seem to remember reading that pre-industrial revolution, approximately 75% were born within a 5 mile radius) Draw a cirle round your parish of 5 miles radius - Parloc is ideal for this - and search each parish in turn. If you still cant findthe person concerned, extend the radius by a couple of miles and search those parishes too. One particular brick wall I had was overcome after about ten 180 mile round trips to the County in which I was interested. In many cases arrangements had to be made with incumbents of parishes to view their registers and in many cases a fee was payable. Today, life is so much easier, particularly if the LDS has filmed the register and it is available through a local LDS Family History Centre. However, one still has to resort to a systematic search through the surrounding parishes. Another point worth remembering is that even though someone claimed to be born in a particular parish, it did not mean that they were baptised there. Sometimes a child was baptised in the grandparent's parish, perhaps at the time of a family gathering, so it may be worth considering the parish of origin of the mother. Hope my words are not considered too much "teaching how to suck eggs" by experienced listers, but I thought that they might help anyone who is relatively new to genealogy. Regards Sandra ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== The Free BMD Project: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Hampshire Parish Register transcriptions at:www.knightroots.co.uk www.knightroots.co.uk

Hi Cathy thanks for answering and being so helpful. I`ve looked at all the censuses. Agnes was born in Lydbrook Glos. Nov1874 Catherine was a servant at Joys Green(nearby)The only counties involved are Gloucestershire, Herefordshire and Monmouthshire. I dont know what you mean by Parloc but certainly Ruardean is one of the possible places as Catherine was described on a document as being"late of Ruardean(in 1874) Id appreciate you letting me know the info you have about Ruardean. I have looked at some variants but the few times I`ve seen Catherine`s name written down it has always had the same spelling thanks again and best wishes SYlvia From: Cathy Pinner <kit52@wn.com.au> Reply-To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WSX] stone or brick walls - POWELL Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:03:32 +0800 Hi Sylvia, 1) Have you looked at the various censuses? You haven't been specific enough with places to help you with this easily. Where was Agnes born? What county/counties are the places in? The only one showing in ParLoc is Ruardean in Gloucestershire. 2) When looking for Catherine - consider all variations and contractions. I come from a line of Catherine/Catharine and it was a strong family name. Most were called Kate and some registered at birth as Kate but marrying as Catherine. Some appear on censuses as Kate/Katie though most as Catherine/Catharine 3) It's unlikely that you'll find a father in this period if he's not mentioned on the birth certificate or marriage certificate. They seem to have stopped chasing the father for maintenance and started blaming the mother. Cathy At 20:32 27/07/2005, you wrote: >Hi I have a "brickwall that I`ve tried to get down for 4 years. I`m >looking for any records of my great grandmother Catherine POWELL and the >only three records that mention her are concerning her daughter Agnes >Selina POWELL. I have AGnes`s birth, marriage and death certificates which >hhave no mention of a father I only know that Catherine was a servant at >Joys Green in 1874and that in 1884 she was desrcribed as "late of Ruardean" >Agnes was born in 1874 and in 1896 married my grandfather William ALLAWAY >at Lydbrook Any suggestions as to my next move in this search@? Sylvia >Morgan(nee ALLAWAY) ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== To know your history is to know yourself.

Name: BAMBURY, Sidney Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1863 District: Langport County: Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 520 1871 England Census Martock Somerset George Bambury abt 1838 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Head Iron moulder Dorcas Banbury abt 1838 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Wife Jacob Banbury abt 1859 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Son Eliza Banbury abt 1861 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Daughter Sidney Banbury abt 1863 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Son Lucy Banbury abt 1866 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Daughter Sarah Banbury abt 1868 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Daughter Charles Banbury abt 1870 East Lambrooke, Somerset, England Son That's all I can find. Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Goldie" <ian@goldiefamily.net> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: [WSX] Brickwall more under a pile of stone > Hi, > > I have been looking for so long that I have just about given up. > > My problem is one Sidney Bambury (1862 - 28/2/1935) he is the eldest son of Dorcas and George Bambury of Lambrook Somersetshire, I have checked all the population censors for Lambrook and around, I get all their other children Lucy, Sarah, Charles, Herbert,Florence,Edith ( my grandmother) Jacob and lastly Eliza.Sidney emigrated to Australia at the same time as the rest of the family except Jacob and Eliza who I think died before they left for South Africa some time at the turn of the century. > > I'm glad to have been able to share my frustration, if you can help you will make a senior citizen happy, well not quite as George's Father is also still hiding out there. > > All the best > > Ian Goldie. > > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Are they called brick walls because there is always "mortar" find > > Hampshire Parish Register transcriptions at:www.knightroots.co.uk > www.knightroots.co.uk >

I am stuck with Catherine (or Catharine) HARDY. She married Henry BEZER in Warminster on 26 March 1780, and is described as "spinster, of this parish". I have the baptisms of her children, and her will. But where was she baptised and who were her parents? Is anyone pursuing HARDY? Elizabeth Elizabeth Duke Dunedin New Zealand

Hi, I have been looking for so long that I have just about given up. My problem is one Sidney Bambury (1862 - 28/2/1935) he is the eldest son of Dorcas and George Bambury of Lambrook Somersetshire, I have checked all the population censors for Lambrook and around, I get all their other children Lucy, Sarah, Charles, Herbert,Florence,Edith ( my grandmother) Jacob and lastly Eliza.Sidney emigrated to Australia at the same time as the rest of the family except Jacob and Eliza who I think died before they left for South Africa some time at the turn of the century. I'm glad to have been able to share my frustration, if you can help you will make a senior citizen happy, well not quite as George's Father is also still hiding out there. All the best Ian Goldie.

Hello List, My brick wall in Ann WATERS. She was born in 1813/14 in Corton, Wiltshire. I can't find her birth record so I don't know who her parents or siblings were. The clues I have found are that a Joseph WATTERS witnessed her marriage to Philip NORTH in Durnford in 1836. I can't find her in the 1841 census, but her husband Philip and sons George and Frederick are in Corton. I'm hoping that she is visiting relatives somewhere else close by. If any comes across her as Ann North in the 1841 census, please let me know. Thanks Karenn from Canberra

Hi Diane, Have you looked at the shipping record when she came to Australia? Some will tell you who her parents were and where she was born. I shipping record might give you another place to look. Cheers Karenn From down under -----Original Message----- From: Diane Cole [mailto:dicole@tech2u.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2005 4:45 PM To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] Brick Walls I have several brickwalls, Martha GEARING is one I would like to put a crack in. According to her death certificate, Martha was born the daughter of Thomas and unknown in 1786 in Wallingford, Oxford. I know Wallingford is sometimes in Berkshire. There is no listing anywhere in Oxfordshire or Berkshire which matches her. Or anywhere else either. This knowledge comes from her daughter who registered her death in 1869, so we have no real idea if this is the truth. It is documented that she married Guy COLE in Ealing Middlesex on 29 Aug 1814, and they came to Australia in 1849. Any ideas ? Diane Cole ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond into future years and future generations

Hello Fellow Brick Wallers! I did post the names a few months ago, so I'll actually be a bit more general. I am back the the 1700s in many lines, but my real frustration is not being able to access Quaker records. Being in South Africa, I can't visit any place with great ease, and with the relative weakness of the rand, it is almost impossible to get bank cheques to send to various places with hopes of finding someone elusive. On the other hand, when I ordered wills from the online site of national archives it was R50 well spent! Of course that was R50 each and 16 of the 19 were goldmines. So I must always weigh up the benefit versus the gamble. If someone said, hey! I found your (Metford, Ellis, Badcock, Anderdon, Parker, Mabson, Hulet) ancestors on a really good chart, I would run to the bank. Anyway, those are the family names I'm studying. I'm looking for Quaker records. I'm going to present a tiny tafel of names (for some reason HULET of Street bef 1700 didn't make it, nor did MABSON): A536 1465 1803 ANDERDON\Ruishton, SOM/Jamaica, West Indies A536 1781 1781 ANDERSON\Jamaica/Jamaica (Clarendon Parish?) B322 1609 1804 BADCOCK\Bampton, DEV/Taunton, SOM E420 1723 1723 ELLIS\Uffculme, DEV/Branscombe, DEV G125 1770 1770 GIBSON\/ G635 1727 1727 GROWDEN\Taunton, Somerset, England/Taunton, Somerset, England G635 1658 1694 GROWDON\CORnwall/Pennsylvania M316 1630 1857 METFORD\/Taunton, SOM N242 1719 1756 NICKLESON\Lancashire/ P623 1654 1696 PROCKTOR\Ruishton, SOM/ P623 1480 1480 PROCTER\Ruishton, SOM/ P626 1719 1719 PARKER\England/England W320 1661 1661 WOODHOUSE\/ Michel

To all those brickwall climbers! When I first started my genealogy 40 years ago, there were no databases, few deposited registers and even fewer transcriptions of registers. So when I cane up against my "brickwalls" the investigation had to be pursued along tried and tested research procedures. Most people were living within a few miles of their parish of birth (can't remember the source of that information, but I seem to remember reading that pre-industrial revolution, approximately 75% were born within a 5 mile radius) Draw a cirle round your parish of 5 miles radius - Parloc is ideal for this - and search each parish in turn. If you still cant findthe person concerned, extend the radius by a couple of miles and search those parishes too. One particular brick wall I had was overcome after about ten 180 mile round trips to the County in which I was interested. In many cases arrangements had to be made with incumbents of parishes to view their registers and in many cases a fee was payable. Today, life is so much easier, particularly if the LDS has filmed the register and it is available through a local LDS Family History Centre. However, one still has to resort to a systematic search through the surrounding parishes. Another point worth remembering is that even though someone claimed to be born in a particular parish, it did not mean that they were baptised there. Sometimes a child was baptised in the grandparent's parish, perhaps at the time of a family gathering, so it may be worth considering the parish of origin of the mother. Hope my words are not considered too much "teaching how to suck eggs" by experienced listers, but I thought that they might help anyone who is relatively new to genealogy. Regards Sandra

My longstanding brick wall is HARFORD. My ancestor Samuel HARFORD was baptised in Heytesbury on 12 Nov 1808 at the same time as his brother Robert. Parents names were William HARFORD and Elizabeth. I have quite a lot of information on Samuel, very little on Robert and can find no other references to William and Elizabeth, the parents, at all. It's as though they breezed into Heytesbury, baptised the two kids then disappeared! Samuel married Mary Anne Brown in Heytesbury on 22 Sep 1830 so it would seem likely he grew up in or nearby to Heytesbury. Robert and his wife, also Mary Anne, baptised their son Robert in Heytesbury 20 Jan 1834. Samuel migrated to South Australia in 1837. Robert may have emigrated as well but whereabouts unknown. What happened to William & Elizabeth? Where did they marry, live, die? Where did Robert marry and what was his wife's surname? Where did he go after 1834? Any ideas will be most appreciated Eileen

Yes I have searched every on line site and and all the indexes I can find. What I need to do I think is look at the real registers in FHC. Bit hard when I live in Brisbane ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. **********************************************************************

- Pamela PA HAYES 28/07/2005 08:04 AM To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com cc: Subject: Re: [WSX] stone or brick walls Reference: Expires on How about a brick wall that is 25 years old. !! I have been searching for the marriage of my GG Grandparents John ALLSOP (1820-1870) and Ann HADWIN (1822-1863) nee ATKINSON around 1854 probably in Bradford area (Ann was there in 1851) for that long. His second marriage. Just recently I found a third marriage in Milford Derbyshire to Ann WHEATCROFT nee Gregory.This was after I found his son Bennett ALLSOP (my g grandfather) on 1871 Census in Crewe (thanks to Ancestry) with step mother and half siblings. Bennett known as John ended up in Bristol when is wasn't at sea and married Lydia WALTER in 1891. I am descended from their son Charlie Burgoyne ALLSOPP. Any suggestions on where to look for the marriage. I have done searched in various versions of St Caths indexes. Free BDM Yorkshire & Derbyshire BDM . and paid for searches. I am sure they did marry I think they were missed off the index. John snr travelled around a lot as an engine smith turner for railways which doesn't help. In 1841 he was still in Milford with his parents and brother Elijah. In 1861 he was in Lancashire with second wife Ann at her sisters (Mary FOGGILL) home Hopefully some long lost cousin will read this . Pam Hayes nee Allsopp Brisbane ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. **********************************************************************