Listers The latest monumental inscriptions CD to be released by this society consists of the inscriptions of Oxford St Mary the Virgin. In common with its predecessors in this series, this CD contains colour photographs of the church and of each MI, as well as a transcription of each MI. Navigation around the CD is by means of a clickable plan view of the churchyard. For further details of the CDs, their availability, and to buy online, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/CDsales.html Any queries, please let me know. Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Minutes Secretary and Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : www.ofhs.org.uk E-mail : publicity@ofhs.org.uk

Hi Colleagues The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will be a computer meeting to be held on Monday 3 October 2005 at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. The doors will open at 7.15pm. The subject of the talk at 7.30pm is "Finding your ancestors on the internet", by Alan Simpson. This is a rerun of the presentation of the same title given by Alan in April 2004. Anyone who would like to have a flavour of how the presentation might proceed should see the online write-up of this previous presentation, which is about half-way down the page at :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/met.html All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. Admission and car parking are totally free. For directions how to get there, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html For a list of future meetings of Oxfordshire FHS, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html Any queries, please contact me off-list. Paul Gaskell Minutes Secretary and Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : www.ofhs.org.uk E-mail : publicity@ofhs.org.uk

I don't have any particular books to recommend, but wanted to suggest looking at www.a2a.org.uk You can enter the chosen topic (e.g.. turnpike) in the keyword box, and select 'Somerset Archive and Record Service' from the location box. Loads of stuff comes up. Of course these are not full records, just a listing of the records (that have been digitally archived to date) that contain the word 'turnpike'. If you wanted to look into particular details from the records, the Somerset Archives people could advise. http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ You can also search their archives via the Somerset Archives website. I have recommended to Beryl (off list) a reasonably-priced researcher who did a good job for me in researching the Somerset / Wilstshire area. Also, I just did a quick search on Amazon which has a new facility to check the contents of some books, and I found references to books listed inside other ones: Gilbert Sheldon, "From Trackway to Turnpike: an illustration from East Devon" (published Oxford 1928) N Herbert, "Road Travel and Transport in Gloucestershire" (published Gloucester 1985) W Albert, "The Turnpike Road System in England" 1663-1840 (Cambridge University Press 1972) Other books: There is a mention of turnpike roads (probably very brief) in: David Brandon, "Stand and Deliver!: A History of Highway Robbery", paperback 2004, Sutton Publishing There are a few pages about roads, streets and turnpikes in: Gerald Newman, "Britain in the Hanoverian Age, 1747-1837: An Encyclopaedia", November 1997, published Garland Science Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Scammell" <keith.scammell@ntlworld.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: [WSX] Somereset turnpikes > Hello > I'm a new lister and I'm looking for suggestions for finding information > about the turnpikes in Somerset.I would be grateful for the names of > relevant books etc > Thankyou > Beryl Scammell > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > We encourage family history connected with Wessex ie names,places,history, - but please DO NOT post any website of a commercial nature as this is against Rootswebs AUP policy >

Hello I'm a new lister and I'm looking for suggestions for finding information about the turnpikes in Somerset.I would be grateful for the names of relevant books etc Thankyou Beryl Scammell

I don`t appear to be receiving any mail, is it just me or is their a problem? Kath

Hi All, I am researching the name Thorn(e), I have a John Thorn born Wincanton, Somerset. abt 1830 s/o Robert and Elizabeth. Their other children were Thomas b 1835, Susan 1840, Charles 1837, Ann 1842, Henry 1846.the family moved to Bedminster, Bristol sometime prior to 1861. John Thorn married Mary Sanders b abt 1849 in Cullompton, Devon in Bristol in 1870. Their children were Sarah Ann b 1871, Alice 1873, Henry John 1876, Thomas 1879, Mary 1881 and Emily 1885. Hoping to hear from anyone who shares the same interests. Kind Regards, Kath

Hi Colleagues The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will be held on Monday 26 September 2005 at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. The doors will open at 7.15 pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, bookstall, exchange journals and library etc. The subject of the talk at 8.00pm is "FreeBMD", by Graeme Hart. As a trustee of this superb internet-based family history resource, Graeme is in an excellent position to talk about its past, the current and the future. Graeme gave a similar talk to our Computer Group some two and a half years ago. Anyone who would like to have a flavour of what Graeme might talk about next Monday evening should see the online write-up of this previous presentation, which is about half-way down the page at :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/met.html All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. Admission and car parking are totally free. For directions how to get there, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html For a list of future meetings of Oxfordshire FHS, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html Any queries, please contact me off-list. Paul Gaskell Minutes Secretary and Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : www.ofhs.org.uk E-mail : publicity@ofhs.org.uk

Hi, Can anyone tell me whether there was a minimum age to hold a licence for an inn during the 1790s please? I have an interesting scenario of a 17-year-old apparantly being the landlord of the Turk's Head here in Bath in 1791.........! Many thanks. Colin Hunt

Hi listers A reminder that this year's OFHS Open Day will be held on Saturday 24 September 2005 at our regular meeting venue - Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. The venue is situated on a frequent bus route, and is easily reached by public transport. Those travelling by car will find Kidlington close to the main A34 and A40 trunk roads, as well as to the M40 motorway. There is limited free car parking on site. The Open Day will feature the usual assortment of visiting Societies, dealers in second hand books and postcards, sales of microfiche readers and the like. Our own Society's library and "Search Services" will be available for consultation, whilst we will also be manning a beginners' helpdesk. Additionally, there will be computing demonstrations, which will give advice on such things as which genealogical software package to choose, and the use of the internet in family history. Admission to the Open Day is free, as is the on-site car park. Light refreshments will be on sale at reasonable prices. Further details of the event, and a list of stallholders, are available from :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/open2005.html Any queries should be sent to the OFHS helpdesk :- help@ofhs.org.uk Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Minutes Secretary and Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : www.ofhs.org.uk E-mail : publicity@ofhs.org.uk

Forwarded message - Rosemary is now subscribed...... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cullen [mailto:cav@mid-wales.net] Sent: 17 September 2005 22:42 To: WESSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Fry's Family Home I am trying to locate a picture of Cedars Hall Frenchay which I understand was the family home of the Fry Family. I was as a child placed in care. I was born in Bristol in 1943 , the address on my birth certificate being 143 Fishponds Road which I now understand was the Workhouse. I have gained information that tells me I lived at Cedars Hall. The person who has given this information was a childrens nurse and she cared for me at this home. I would very much like to obtain a photograph of Cedars Hall and to try and find out more about the home. Unfortuntately the children's nurse who cared for me is now deceased and the only information I have is in a letter from her. This would be the first step in tracing my background. Rosemary Cullen

Hello all The Hampshire Genealogical Society annual open day will take place this year NEXT WEEKEND on Sunday 25 September 2005 at the usual venue of Horndean Technology College,, Merchistoun Rd, Horndean. Doors open at 10.00am and close at 4.00pm. The Society’s AGM (members only) follows at 4.30pm As usual, admission is FREE and attractions include the HGS Bookstall and Research Room, Surname Interests, Computer Genealogical Advice, Stands from Genealogical Suppliers, Other Family History Societies, New & Second Hand Books. The highlights of the day include three free lectures from genealogy experts which are always very informative. This year, we have been fortunate and can offer: Jeanne Bunting - 'Don't Delay; Write Today' John Hanson - 'A to Z of Occupations' Rod Neep - 'Meat on the Bones of Family History' Full details of the open day and of membership of the Society can be found at _www.hgs-online.org.uk_ (http://www.hgs-online.org.uk/) Take care Tony Knight HGS Publicity Officer

Passing this on, which has already come via 2 Rootsweb lists... > September 12, 2005 1:53:19 PM CDT > To: IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Interesting article about LDS plan to put all their microfilmed data > on line for free. Would obviously take a lot of time but would use > volunteers worldwide. > > http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,605153189,00.html > > > Larry >

Hi Diana How very kind of you to offer look-ups. I wouldn't want you to take time off from your own research, but if you should happen to notice a marriage of a William COX and a Mary, or baptisms of any of their children (Charles was bp in 1814, so round about then) I'd be truly delighted. Thank you so much! Kind regards Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Ingram" <diana.ingram@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [WSX] COX tale of woe > Hi Joy > > Hope you have stopped crying by now! > > If no-one else has replied I am going to the Somerset RO next Thursday (I > have a friend staying who is doing research in Somerset) and I could > possibly look up the Parish Reords/Bishops Transcripts while I am there. I > asked them to book a fiche reader for my friend and they have actually > booked me one too. Is there is not much for me to do i could do your > lookups instead. > > Let me know if this is of any help (some of my family come from chilcompton > and are still living there) > > Regards > > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Hungerford" <m.hungerford@ntlworld.com> > To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:35 PM > Subject: [WSX] COX tale of woe > > > > Hi Listers > > > > Sympathise, sympathise! > > I've just been trawling through film of the Bishops' Transcripts for > > Chilcompton. I found, in all, two entries for COX - one was the baptism of > > my 2GGF, Charles, in 1814, which I was very pleased about. The other was > > the child of another couple ten years later. > > > > Now, Charles's father, William, was a farmer. This suggests to me that you > > stay pretty much in one place for a long time, what with rotation of crops > > etc. It's not the sort of occupation where you flit about a lot. > > > > Many of the pages of the filmed documents had been sliced off, neatly > > severing the actual names of people. It wasn't that I had the film aligned > > badly; someone had whizzed through, not bothering to aim his camera > > properly. I am livid!! The very years in which COX activity could be > > expected are just the ones with useless film records. > > > > So - is it possible, kind listers, that these records have been more > > sensitively handled elsewhere? Might there be transcriptions hidden > > somewhere which might reveal the BMDs of my COX ancestors? > > > > Kind regards, amidst dabbing with tissues, > > > > Joy > > > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > > Practice safe text - do NOT spread virus warnings on the list. > > Email the list administrators if you have any concerns > > > > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Genealogy isn't just for Christmas it's for all the year round and beyond into future years and future generations > >

Hi Joy Hope you have stopped crying by now! If no-one else has replied I am going to the Somerset RO next Thursday (I have a friend staying who is doing research in Somerset) and I could possibly look up the Parish Reords/Bishops Transcripts while I am there. I asked them to book a fiche reader for my friend and they have actually booked me one too. Is there is not much for me to do i could do your lookups instead. Let me know if this is of any help (some of my family come from chilcompton and are still living there) Regards Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <m.hungerford@ntlworld.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [WSX] COX tale of woe > Hi Listers > > Sympathise, sympathise! > I've just been trawling through film of the Bishops' Transcripts for > Chilcompton. I found, in all, two entries for COX - one was the baptism of > my 2GGF, Charles, in 1814, which I was very pleased about. The other was > the child of another couple ten years later. > > Now, Charles's father, William, was a farmer. This suggests to me that you > stay pretty much in one place for a long time, what with rotation of crops > etc. It's not the sort of occupation where you flit about a lot. > > Many of the pages of the filmed documents had been sliced off, neatly > severing the actual names of people. It wasn't that I had the film aligned > badly; someone had whizzed through, not bothering to aim his camera > properly. I am livid!! The very years in which COX activity could be > expected are just the ones with useless film records. > > So - is it possible, kind listers, that these records have been more > sensitively handled elsewhere? Might there be transcriptions hidden > somewhere which might reveal the BMDs of my COX ancestors? > > Kind regards, amidst dabbing with tissues, > > Joy > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe text - do NOT spread virus warnings on the list. > Email the list administrators if you have any concerns > >

Hi Listers Sympathise, sympathise! I've just been trawling through film of the Bishops' Transcripts for Chilcompton. I found, in all, two entries for COX - one was the baptism of my 2GGF, Charles, in 1814, which I was very pleased about. The other was the child of another couple ten years later. Now, Charles's father, William, was a farmer. This suggests to me that you stay pretty much in one place for a long time, what with rotation of crops etc. It's not the sort of occupation where you flit about a lot. Many of the pages of the filmed documents had been sliced off, neatly severing the actual names of people. It wasn't that I had the film aligned badly; someone had whizzed through, not bothering to aim his camera properly. I am livid!! The very years in which COX activity could be expected are just the ones with useless film records. So - is it possible, kind listers, that these records have been more sensitively handled elsewhere? Might there be transcriptions hidden somewhere which might reveal the BMDs of my COX ancestors? Kind regards, amidst dabbing with tissues, Joy

I haven't seen this yet on any lists, but come 2051, '61, '71, it will be generating lots of discussion! The following quote is from a trailer for a BBC Radio 4 programme: "In Part One of Losing the Past, Richard Hollingham investigates specific examples of what is now unplayable or unreadable. For example, he can reveal for the first time, that the UK population census data from 1951 are lost, as are significant parts of the 1961 and 1971 census data." http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/losing_the_past.shtml I'll be 104 in 2051, so can't imagine that I'll be contributing! Best wishes Ron Dunning

-----Original Message----- From: Edward James [mailto:EdwardinTexas@comcast.net] Sent: 02 September 2005 03:01 To: WESSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Fry Family I came across Mike Hales' enquiry and thought you might be interested in this. I am an Brit living in the USA. While living in northern Colorado, Through freinds I met a dear old lady who was about 90. Her maiden name was Audry Fry. She told me that her father was English and that he made a total of seven trips from England to a place way up in the Colorado Rockies. There he built a homested at a Place called "Rustic". The cabin stands on the south bank of the "Cache La Poudre" river about 9000 ft above sea level. I have stayed there many times. One day while getting Audry to tell me more about her father she told me that he came from a family that made chocolate. Immediately I made the connection between her name and Fry's chocolate. She had never heard of the famous English brand name. Unfortunally she passed away in or about 2000 and was burried in Denver. Her son, Norman Weimeyer (best guess on the spelling of the last name) still lives in the area and works for the National Transport Safety Board. Although he may have retired in the last couple of years. Regards Edward James

Hi, I've seen a couple of references to what I presume to be advertisements in THE ALFRED in February, March and October 1833: C Hunt, Bookseller of 13 Market Place, Bath. I'd dearly like to get hold of copies, as this was the business of my Great-Great-Grandfather: does anyone know where I might find them please, or do I have to go to the newspaper library in Colindale?! Regards, Colin (another C. Hunt!)

In our last email, we mentioned the strange customs and beliefs from time to time. Whilst we will not go into the gypsy customs - at least not on list ;-) , it is worth mentioning that in the 1700's, it was believed that marriage by a woman in a state of nudity or wearing only a chemise, exempted her husband from the payment of her debts. mmmmmm Linda & Tony

We have a book on worldwide marriage rituals and thought an explanation of the infamous "Fleet Marriages" may be of interest to all regardless of county interests. The Fleet in question has nothing to do with the navy but is in fact the Fleet Prison in London. Prior to Hardwickes marriage act, it was not necessary to have a 3 times reading of the banns and so clandestine marriages took place. Although there was a fine of GBP100 on clergy solemnising clandestine marriages, this was of little deterrent to a number of disreputable parsons who set up an open all hours marriage shop where for a fee, they would undertake a quick wedding ceremony without delay and without banns. The odd thing is that these weddings were legal and solemly binding. The book goes on to state "sometimes these farcical marriages were celebrated in adjacent taverns and both parsons and tavern keepers employed touts to solicit custom. If a couple appeared arm in arm, it was taken for granted they intended to marry and they were likely to be carried off by force and married.Next to the prison was a sign - marriages performed within - and the parson could be seen - a squalid profligate figure, clad in a tattered plaid nightgown and ready to couple you for a dram of gin or a roll of tobacco" Take care (especially if walking arm in arm in Fleet St) Linda & Tony