Seeking family detail for Admiral Sir Charles Saunders 1713?-7 Dec 1775. He entered navy 1727: with Anson 1739 (voyage around the world); MP Plymouth 1750, Heydon 1754-75; at Newfoundland station 1752; in the St Lawrence 1759; admiral 1770 (1). - interred in Westminster Abbey "close to the monument.... victory of Quebec" ... and his father Lieutenant-General Edward Wolfe, and mother - died without issue... legacies to Lord Keppel, Sir Hugh Palliser.... (and) his niece - Miss Kinsey ... who after married - Dr Huck... both assumed name of Saunders. (Their issue was ) 2 daughters, - Countess of Westmorland and Viscountess Melville (2) Grant of land, Lot 29 in PEI, from George III, after 1775 was new proprietor was - Charles Saunders, a (great) nephew (3 & JN). Marilyn in Jasper Canada Email: mkan@incentre.net RESEARCHING SURNAMES: 18C & 19C: - Leslie (m. Knowles/Knolls, Lyall, Stephen) in Old Machar & Monymusk, Aberdeenshire (fishing & Perthshire Light Infantry); to PEI, Canada abt 1820-30. - Crouch (m. Goddard / Broadwater) , Chennells (m. Reeve) all farm managers e.g. in Amersham, Quarendon, Aylesbury Bucks; Clophill Bedfordshire; Passenham, Naseby Northants; Clophill Bedfordshire; Littlehampton, Yapton & Walberton in WSussex ; to Canada abt 1890. - Fairchild (m. Sanders/Saunders), Perkins (m. Bowen) from Devon (possibly with Bible Christians &/or Cambridge Shipbuilderrs) to PEI abt 1830. 19C & 20C: -- Fairchild (m. Sensabaugh), Leslie (m. Perkins) & Large (m. Stephen) in PEI (mariners and ship builders). - Chennells in England & Canada. Gen-Les/Sanders Feb01.wpd

Seeking info on ship registration, and Capt Kendall, William Fairchild the Mate, Ann Sanders (sic) passenger, a board the: Frances Mary (400 tons) - dp 18 Jan 1826 St John, New Brunswick to Liverpool, timber; Captain Kendall - ship wreck began in gales, Feb 1, 1826 - March 7 "His B.M. Ship Blonde came to assist survivors (four men & 2 women), at latitude 44, 42, north, longitude (sic) 31, 57 west. - the Frances Mary, later in Jamacia was refitted and sent to sea again. Thanks for any tips or comments Marilyn in Jasper Canada Email: mkan@incentre.net RESEARCHING SURNAMES: 18C & 19C: - Leslie (m. Knowles/Knolls, Lyall, Stephen) in Old Machar & Monymusk, Aberdeenshire (fishing & Perthshire Light Infantry); to PEI, Canada abt 1820-30. - Crouch (m. Goddard / Broadwater) , Chennells (m. Reeve) all farm managers e.g. in Amersham, Quarendon, Aylesbury Bucks; Clophill Bedfordshire; Passenham, Naseby Northants; Clophill Bedfordshire; Littlehampton, Yapton & Walberton in WSussex ; to Canada abt 1890. - Fairchild (m. Sanders/Saunders), Perkins (m. Bowen) from Devon (possibly with Bible Christians &/or Cambridge Shipbuilderrs) to PEI abt 1830. 19C & 20C: -- Fairchild (m. Sensabaugh), Leslie (m. Perkins) & Large (m. Stephen) in PEI (mariners and ship builders). - Chennells in England & Canada.

----- Original Message ----- From: toni.evans <toni.evans@xtra.co.nz> To: <WESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Rodbourne Cheney Can anybody advise me where we can find the church records for Rodbourne Cheney as the FHLC does not have any. Two ancestors are buried under/in front of the alter of the church maybe more !!, also where or what is Brasenrose College, Buscot Co. Berks. Toni in NZ

Seeking any data on life and children of the Countess of Westmorland and Viscountess Melville daughters of the following Saunders. Particularly children included Philip, and Ann b. 1798 in Devon: Admiral Sir Charles Saunders 1713?-7 Dec 1775 - Entered navy 1727: with Anson 1739 (voyage around the world); MP Plymouth 1750, Heydon 1754-75; at Newfoundland station 1752; in the St Lawrence 1759; admiral 1770 (1). - interred in Westminster Abbey "close to the monument.... victory of Quebec" ... and his father Lieutenant-General Edward Wolfe, and mother - died without issue... legacies to Lord Keppel, Sir Hugh Palliser.... (and) his niece Miss Kinsey ... who after married Dr Huck... both assumed name of Saunders. (Their issue was ) 2 daughters, Countess of Westmorland and Viscountess Melville (2) - Grant of land, Lot 29 in PEI, from George III, after 1775 was new proprietor was Charles Saunders, a (great) nephew . Thanks Marilyn in Jasper Canada Email: mkan@incentre.net RESEARCHING SURNAMES: 18C & 19C: - Leslie (m. Knowles/Knolls, Lyall, Stephen) in Old Machar & Monymusk, Aberdeenshire (fishing & Perthshire Light Infantry); to PEI, Canada abt 1820-30. - Crouch (m. Goddard / Broadwater) , Chennells (m. Reeve) all farm managers e.g. in Amersham, Quarendon, Aylesbury Bucks; Clophill Bedfordshire; Passenham, Naseby Northants; Clophill Bedfordshire; Littlehampton, Yapton & Walberton in WSussex ; to Canada abt 1890. - Fairchild (m. Sanders/Saunders), Perkins (m. Bowen) from Devon (possibly with Bible Christians &/or Cambridge Shipbuilderrs) to PEI abt 1830. 19C & 20C: -- Fairchild (m. Sensabaugh), Leslie (m. Perkins) & Large (m. Stephen) in PEI (mariners and ship builders). - Chennells in England & Canada. Gen-Les/Sanders Feb01.wpd

Hello fellow listers, Can anyone help me with Robert Genge/Gange born in Hardington 18.3.1792. His family moved there from Halstock Dorset some time between May 1789 and 1792. His father was Edward Genge. If you know anything about any of the Genge clan can you contact me. Jan Kennedy jank@sceftresbr-loumaidlea.freeserve.co.uk

Hello there I'm asking this lookup for a friend here in Bristol, who has recently become interested in his family history after hearing me talk about my efforts. I wonder if anyone has access to the 1851 or 1881 census records for Twyford, Berkshire and would be kind enough to see if a GILDING family is listed at those dates. I know it's probably a bit off-area but any information on them would be gratefully received. Thank you Cynthia Stiles

Have slightly lost track of which message site started this one, but here's my two-pennoth! I am a Fourth Cousin of Peter Powell (he who was once married to a certain Ms Anthea Turner) via his CHAPMAN ancestry, a First Cousin twice removed of former Fulham Football Club Manager Alec Stock via his CARTER ancestery, and the youngest grandson of the world's first Lollipop Lady..... Greetings to all. Colin Hunt

Hi everyone Strange one this but I'd be delighted if anyone can help. Is anybody researching, or knows of, a family probably from the Chard area, who owned a brewery in the mid to late 1800s? I have no idea what this family is called, but if you are and are missing a female called Sarah born in 1858/59, I've got her. I've no idea of her maiden name as I haven't tracked down her marriage cert yet. She married James Billing, a lacemaker, and moved to Nottingham. Sadly, she was disinherited for her choice of husband. What a mean lot, and to think I could have been a beer heiress by now! If anybody can help, I'd love to hear from you. Cheers Jo

In September 1839 - my 3 x great grandfather Joseph HOLDER of Frampton Cotterell, Gloucs. arranged a lease for a year for a Public House called and known by the name of NEW INN, by estimation 5 acres more or less. The Indenture was between George Augustas THOMAS & James WARREN of Newport Mon., for a consideration of 5/- Does anyone know if this "New Inn" was in Gloucestershire or Monmouthshire? Or does every English village have an Inn by that name! Cheers, Desley Hardy, Adelaide, South Australia

Toni, I think the records for Rodbourne Cheney would be held at the record office in Trowbridge, or you could try Wilts Family History Society who are quite helpful with your kind of enquiry. What name are you looking for ??? If you need addresses for the record office or WFHS let me know. Mandy

G'day Some new entries on my GLS Immigrants to Australia pre 1888 Index Ruth HOLDER born GLS arrived VIC 1855 aged 44 per "Caldera" as an unassisted immigrant. In 1856 she married James MURPHY in VIC; there were no chn, not surprising considering her age. They appeared to live in the Winchelsea area of VIC. Ruth died in 1878 when she was said to be aged 71, parents given as Thomas HOLDER and Sarah BILLET. Phillip TAINTON and his wife Jane nee BRINKWORTH and chn Harriet 18, Richard 16, Hannah 10, Eliza 6 and William 2 arrived 1841 "Burhampooter" (Sydney NSW) as Bounty Immigrants. They were Baptists and are mentioned in the Shortwood Emigrant List. Phillip became a member of the Church in 1816; and a member of the Shortwood Benefit Society in 1828 at age 31. According to a deacon's note in Oct 1836 he kept a beer house or public inn at Newmarket. He contributed 2 guineas to the building of the new meeting house in 1837-8. Jane became a member in 1830; she and Phillip were married at Horsley 30 Oct 1820. They were both removed from membership of the church in 1848. Phillip was bapt Horsley 22 Mar 1797; parents Richard TAINTON (a weaver dead in 1841) and Ursula nee ARNOLD (also dead in 1841). Jane said she was born c1802, the dau of William BRINKWORTH, a baker, and Esther (dead in 1841). Jane died shortly after arrival at Sydney in 1841. The family was in Victoria by 1849 when dau Hannah married James LUCAS; 9 chn. Widowed, Hannah married twice more. Son Richard married Eliza PERRETT in VIC 1851; 8 chn. Dau Eliza married John THOMPSON in 1853; 8 chn. Phillip TAINTON appears to have remarried Mary WILSON in 1854; Mary was aged about 47 and there were no chn. The family all lived in the Geelong area where Phillip was a milkman. Dau Harriet died unmarried in 1878, though she appears to have had an illegitimate dau Jane in 1863 who died in infancy. She is buried with her father Phillip who died 1875 aged 79. Any interest in the above; please note they are not my families; entries on my GLS Immigrants to Australia pre 1888 Index. Regards Kaye Kaye Purnell <kayepur@ozemail.com.au> Ancestors from GLS who came to Oz? Database kept on GLS arrivals to AUS pre 1888. Entries happily accepted; searches done. Visit my site at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kayepur>. Snail mail to 15 Balla Machree Way, Gymea Bay NSW 2227 AUS, including SSAE or 1 IRC.

On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:48:53 +1300, you wrote: > Can anybody advise me where we can find the church records for Rodbourne >Cheney as the FHLC does not have any. Two ancestors are buried under/in >front of the alter of the church maybe more !!, also where or what is >Brasenrose College, Buscot Co. Berks. > > Toni in NZ On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:48:53 +1300, you wrote: > Can anybody advise me where we can find the church records for >Rodbourne Cheney as the FHLC does not have any. Two ancestors are buried under/in >front of the alter of the church maybe more !!, also where or what is >Brasenrose College, Buscot Co. Berks. > > Toni in NZ Hi Toni It looks as though the spelling for Rodbourne Cheney can be a little flexible :-)) Looking for Rodborne Cheney the FHLC would appear to have the following films: >Wiltshire, Rodborne-Cheney - Census >Wiltshire, Rodborne-Cheney - Church records including Bishop's transcripts for 1605-1874 >Wiltshire, Rodborne-Cheney - Manors - Court records >Wiltshire, Rodborne-Cheney - Poorhouses, poor law, etc. >Wiltshire, Rodborne-Cheney - Taxation The WRO holds PRs for R. Cheney CMB for 1653-1935, 1653-1947 & 1653-1876 respectively. I don't know of a Brasenrose College, Buscot, but there is certainly a Brasenose College (Sp), Oxford, which has been around for nearly 500 years: see: http://www.bnc.ox.ac.uk/ Perhaps it had an extension or something at Buscot? Regards Paul Portland

Hi Desley! If you log onto the 19th century map at: http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldSite/10glou131/HTML/fs_13068SE1h.htm you will see the New Inn in Frampton Cottrell just next to St Peter's Church. It wasn't an uncommon name for a pub in those days but by no means every village had one! Cheers from Wales Paul Alternative Address: mountpleasant@goginan.fsbusiness.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desley&Laurie Hardy" <deslau@senet.com.au> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:58 AM Subject: [WSX] HOLDER/New Inn > In September 1839 - > my 3 x great grandfather Joseph HOLDER of Frampton > Cotterell, Gloucs. arranged a lease for a year for > a Public House called and known by the name of > NEW INN, by estimation 5 acres more or less. > The Indenture was between George Augustas THOMAS & James > WARREN of Newport Mon., for a consideration of 5/- > > Does anyone know if this "New Inn" was in Gloucestershire > or Monmouthshire? Or does every English village have an > Inn by that name! > > Cheers, > Desley Hardy, > Adelaide, South Australia > > > > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Somerset maps and photographs and a searchable database: > a visit is worthwhile if you have Somerset rellies: > http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/somhome.htm > >

Brian - > >My 1st time of asking I am researching the surname FARTHING > > in particular Thomas whose birth and burial places I cannot find > >Thomas married to Mary HOOPER of Mere (W) in1807 @ Wincanton (S) May I suggest you contact Viv Fitch, a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies www.one-name.org , who's carrying out a one-name study on FARTHING. Her details are on the Guild register on the website. -- Wendy Archer Marlow,Bucks, UK Oxfordshire representative - Guild of One-Name Studies

CHARLES DORE was baptised at Speen Berks in 1828.His family was living at ?Gravelly Piece?Has any listers heard of this place? Also I am trying to find a marriage of JOHN DORE and Sarah early 1850`s possibly at Newbury.Has anyone access to the parish records for Newbury or the 1851 census for Newbury? Chris

Granny Francis wrote: > CHARLES DORE was baptised at Speen Berks in 1828.His family was living at > ?Gravelly Piece?Has any listers heard of this place? > Also I am trying to find a marriage of JOHN DORE and Sarah early 1850`s > possibly at Newbury.Has anyone access to the parish records for Newbury or > the 1851 census for Newbury? any NEWBURYs in Newbury ?

Many thanks to all those who very kindly answered my query re mariners. I am constantly amazed at the speed at which the replies come and it is most gratifying to know that the subscribers to the list are so helpful and forth coming with their knowledge, Thanks a lot folks it is much appreciated. Regards to all Alf. Also known as K.D.

If anyone is going to be checking the GRO index soon could they please quickly try to find the full names of Mr Webb and Miss Sledge in the following two marriages?: WEBB Bristol 1919 Qtr 3 6a 55 Spouse: NECK SLEDGE Bristol 1918 Qtr 2 6a 294 Spouse: NECK TIA, Mike Matthews email: mike@boddyparts.co.uk website: www.boddyparts.co.uk ~ my website includes info about my CURTIS, HIPPISLEY, MATTHEWS, HEAD, SMITH, BODDY, NATION, JENKINS, TOY and NECK ancestors, as well as a page of photos from around the West Country of England.

Hi Listers, Yesterday, there was a rare spell of sunshine so we took a drive to visit Pill, Easton-in-Gordano and Portbury, places associated with my PRESS ancestors. The churchyard at Easton-in-Gordano has many old graves. Their inscriptions make for fascinating reading as a number of them record the deaths of Pill pilots and master mariners. I was extremely fortunate to find the grave of Thomas PRESS who died on 18th April 1836, aged 85 years. The gravestone also commemorated his son another Thomas PRESS and his daughter-in-law, Mary PRESS. Thomas PRESS, the son, died on 18th April 1845, aged 70 years while Mary, his wife, died on October 24th 1864, aged 83 years. The son and daughter-in-law may have been the Thomas PRESS and Mary HELLEN who were married on 19th October 1801 at St James, Bristol. (HELLEN is a surname, which has associations with St. Georges/Easton-in-Gordano.) I have 1841, 1851 and 1881 census information on my PRESS family and 1830-1841 PRESS baptisms from the Easton-in-Gordano parish registers. Some of the census information and the baptism information has been courtesy of kind listers. If anyone has access to parish registers for any earlier baptism, marriage or burial information for PRESS at Easton-in-Gordano or Portbury I would be very pleased to receive it. Josephine Also researching GOODLAND in Pill and Portbury, SOM -- ___ _|______________________:_ __________________________ \___|___Glas y Dorlan________|____ / |________________________________/ / Josephine Jeremiah http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/ianandjo ianandjo@argonet.co.uk

Alf, Essential reading: "My Ancestor was a Merchant Seaman" by Chris & Michael WATTS. There are masses of information at the PRO, but you will need this book to be able to make use of it. There is also "Lloyds Captains Register" published 1869. I have copy on fiche and there is no William CARD. There are other CARDs. Steve in Dorset -----Original Message----- From: Alfred Card [mailto:kaydee@carda.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 03 February 2001 17:14 To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSX] Sea Captains Hello Listers. Can anyone advise how to find info on sea captains. I am trying to confirm a story that one of my forbears, possibly William Card my 3x great grandfather, was a seaman either a captain or ordinary seaman, he may have died at sea. Many thanks Alf ______________________________