New to this list, may I submit my interests: INGRAM in Wiltshire and Hampshire pre 1850 WHITLEY in Hampshire pre 1850 Pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests Thank you Penelope turpin.home@evc.net

Hello List, I am looking for a possible connection to John PYM born 1584 in Brymore, Somerset -. He was an English politician . He married Ann HOOKE in Bramshott , Hampshire in 1604. There were 5 children born to them- I have Phillipa born 1607 and a Henry PYM b. ?? who became a paper maker in Bramshot. Is there anyone who can help me fill in the rest of the family. Does any one have a copy of the book "Reign of King PYM" by Jack Hexter, it is out of print- I would like to know if that would include a pedigree for him. Thanks Arlene Constable Schaefer Unity Maine USA Searching fro PYM, CONSTABLE, PENFOLD, SEARLE.

Hi Listers I'm new to this list so thought I would post some of my interests FULLICK, GARDINER,HEATHER, PARFECT, WHITING,TRIGGS Hampshire COOKE, LITTLE, DOWDING,DIXON, WHITTENBURY, CRAPP London STEUNOU Brittany/Hertfordshire Regards Jenny Jenny Crawford Sydney Australia Website http://members.nbci.com/abi_crawford _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hello everyone I am a new subscriber to Wessex (just 'crossed-over' from the Hampshire list !!). I'm researching the GATCUM family (and variants) and have so far, traced them back to: Richard GADCOMBE Date of birth unknown (circa 1727?) , but his indenture papers state that he was the son of Richard of Chilbolton. I can't find a baptism for Richard, but there is a record of a baptism in Chilbolton on 6 January 1729 or 1730, for William GADCOMBE, son of Richard Gadcombe. (Could this have been Richard's brother??) Richard GADCOMBE was an indentured apprentice to John SHORT, of Newton Stacey in the Parish of Barton Stacey in October 1743, to learn the craft of Wheelwright. The full period (7 years) was served and Richard came to Farnham in Surrey. (He Anne FIGGE in Farnham on 22 December 1751). Any connections out there?? Regards Joy Waters

In article <00cc01c092e4$74ffe4e0$85e109ca@patch>, Ian B <patch@nobbys.net.au> wrote: > Does any kind person know of a book The Story of Cleeve Prior written by > Audrey Baylis (1988). > Can it be purchased? > >From where? > Price? Hi Ian, Yes, I know it. It was reprinted in 1991, ISBN 0 9514320 0 1. It used to be obtainable from the author and possibly from the Cleeve Prior Stores, which is pictured on the cover. However, the author may have moved on as I think I saw her house up for sale a while back. Also the stores may have closed down as there was something about that in the local paper -- again a while back. I can't remember the price but I know it was reasonable. It may have been round about 5 or 6 pounds but certainly less than 10 pounds. Anyway, what do you want to know about Cleeve Prior? Let me know off list as I don't think the Wessex list encompasses Worcestershire, too. Josephine -- ___ _|______________________:_ __________________________ \___|___Glas y Dorlan________|____ / |________________________________/ / Josephine Jeremiah http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/ianandjo ianandjo@argonet.co.uk

I am a new subscriber to the Wessex list. I am interested in SHRUBB from Headley (near Bordon) and BEAGLEY in Bramshott Hampshire. Thank you. Margaret Florida US mel427@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Forwarded: RE: The Dicks Family, counties of interest are Devon, Dorset, Glo'ster, Somerset, Wiltshire. Three or four brothers emigrated to Newfoundland prior to 1800, probably fishermen, one of whom was my gr gr grandfather, Henry Dicks, born 1774. He first appeared in Newfoundland in 1791. I have additional information if anybody is interested. Harold Dicks Nova Scotia, Canada

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:40:37 -0000, you wrote: >I would be most grateful if someone could check the 1851 census for Bread St, St Philip (?), Bristol for George ORGAN born c 1808 who was then hopefully living with his family. > >I understand that he appears under reference 103 on page 24 folio 634. > >Adrian >Yorkshire Hi Adrian Looks a bit like your man: from: St. Philip & Jacob, (Out) 1851 Census, H.O. 107/1954 Call 103 Page 23/633 ORGAN George 43 Haulier Bristol, St. Philip Ann 49 Winterbourne Glos. Page/Folio 24/634 ORGAN Elizal Daughter 17 Bristol, St. Philip Emma 15 Bristol, St. Philip Edwin 9 Bristol, St. Philip FARR Francis Widow/er 81 Nettleton Wiltshire With thanks to Gordon Beavington's CD Index for 1851 census for Gloucestershire, Bristol and Somerset: please see: New Web Page: http://www.mycensuses.com for details or Email gordonb@mycensuses.com Paul Portland

I would be most grateful if someone could check the 1851 census for Bread St, St Philip (?), Bristol for George ORGAN born c 1808 who was then hopefully living with his family. I understand that he appears under reference 103 on page 24 folio 634. Adrian Yorkshire Researching: - Devon - LUSCOMBE, SHOBBROOK, PERRIAM, PITTS, QUICK, STONEMAN, COX & CORNISH. Dorset - WILMOT(T) Gloucestershire - HESKINS, BAKER, FOWLER & PITT Middlesex - MONTGOMERY & SAWARD Somerset - HOLBROOK, POTHECARY & WILMOT(T) Wiltshire - HAWKINS, HEATH, COOK, BECKINGHAM, DASH, RUDMAN, WATKINS, FELL, DREW, WILTSHIRE, WAIT(E) & WHIT(E)BREAD Carmarthenshire - PARRY & MORGANS Glamorgan - PARRY & POTHECARY Monmouthshire - POTHECARY Anywhere - MUDON

Looking for BULL Gypsies and/or chimney sweeps anywhere. In particular any strays in the '61 or '71 censuses. Need to know family relationships and where born. Stephen BULL with wife/partner (sounds quite modern!) Eve MASON were in Wiltshire in May 1861. Son Stephen born Allington 7 May 1861, registered Amesbury 18 May and Christened Newton Toney 19 May 1861 when Stephen gave their address as Gypsy Camp on Tarrow Hill, Newton Toney. I have the 1881 census, BVRI and London Marriages CD's. The Stephens I am after are not in the 1881. Didn't trust the enumerator, I suoppose. I can do look ups on what sources I have and can maybe help on things Bristol. TIA on this or any other BULL sightings. Ernie Bull Bristol, UK.

I would like to welcome Chris and Caroline. I found them very helpful on another list. Joan Whelan

"the gift of the Living of the Church" - this manorial right was known as the advowson and was jealously guarded by the purchasers of manors. David

Wondering if anyone else is researching RUGG's in Yatton, Somerset. My gg-grandfather Charles RUGG originated from Yatton, and moved up to Gloucester as a young man to work at the docks. Gary Mason Calgary ------------------------ Researching: FISHER, PULLEN, PEART, SPRAGG in Glos. MASON, MARTIN, PEARCE, STEVENS, WAINE in Wilts. RUGG in SOmerset __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Sheila, best approached in two parts : 1. Living. Effectively the monies that go with the appointment of a parish priest The Church of England has investments and large land and property holdings, thus deriving monies to pay the parish priests. (This is a very simple version of the whole truth) 2. Gift An example of the almost but not quite dead power system that exists in England Rather like Animal Farm, all parishes are equal but some are more equal than others The power to appoint a parish priest did not always lie with a central authority. Some powers resided elsewhere in the power base. The appointment was called a gift. Sometimes they were a gift indeed as some parishes were individually endowed with some quite large monies. . One of my ancestors was Rector at Winkfield for more than 40 years. The power to appoint the Vicar was, I believe, in the hands of an Oxford college. My ancestor did have the glebe lands, however, to provide his family with food. Regards REB

Hello All Is anyone researching the surname MALTMAN in Trowbridge. I have Ann MALTMAN who married James GOWEN in 1852. I've only one daughter Sarah GOWEN born in 1855, she married William NEWLAND about 1877. Regards Jill

Hi all, I am new to list and could someone please help. Looking for info on a William CLARK b: abt 1825 in Minety, Wiltshire. I know in later life he lived in St. Sampson Chicklade with a family. wife was a Mary. Any info gained will piece together a puzzle. Thank you, Ken(USA)

Samual DERHAM I and Elizabeth (nee GAYNOR) were the parents of Samuel II born Trull, Som Feb 1840. Samuel II married Sarah E PILE Aug 1865 and they produced 9 children. If any one has connections with this family or should happen across the marriage of Samuel and Elizabeth I should be delighted to exchange notes. Regards Paul Portland

Dear Listers, I quote; 'the manor, including the gift of the Living of the Church, was held by Patrick Chawtres in 1258." Could SKS please enlighten me, what does it mean? 'the gift of the Living of the Church.' Many thanks for any help or hints. Regards, Sheila sheila@netdocs.com

Hi Researchers. I am once again posting my interest and they are SHORT,PRATT,CULLIMORE,KINGSCOTE,LIVALL,TROTMAN and me BEARD. I have put no dates for any one if you have the same surname as above please make contact. The NEW names to the family are CULLIMORE and LIVALL, These families are still in the area of Cromhall, Tortworth, Stone, Charfield etc giving a radius of 20 miles. My SHORT's are from Didmarton, where they came from who's knows, they who do, are now our headache. One connection which I would like help on is the marriage Blanch CULLIMORE to James Walter BEARD abt 1917 may be at Cromhall/Berkeley. other name given CYNTHIA CULLIMORE this is my brickwall. other interests SMITH ,Wotton under Edge, all dates HEWER. all dates RUDMAN, Wilts/Glos. Alf Beard

Hello Listers, Can I convey thanks from my friend Jim for all the help you gave. I passed on all the messages to him yesterday and he was amazed at all the information you found for him - it has given him plenty to work on! Regards - Patrisia