Dear Phill, Although she is not in my direct line, I have some detail about a lady called ANN STURMEY. She married Henry PARSONS at Hinton Martell on July 19th, 1852, which is how she comes to be associated with my family. This Henry was a first cousin to my gt. grandfather, also Henry Parsons. According to the notes which I have from a direct descendant of Henry and Ann, she was born at Tarrant Monkton on May 6th, 1831, the daughter of Charles Sturmey and Louisa Brewer. Unfortunately, I can tell you no more. If this opens any doors, could you get back to me off-list? I shall have a word with my (by now) distant relation to see if her can add more to the tale. He himself doesn't 'do' computers! Best wishes and with hope, Iain, in Brampton, Cumbria.

PLANTER- a protestant living in Ireland, Many were massacred immediately prior to the English Civil War. `Taken froj DICTIONARY OF OLD TRADES,TITLES AND OCCUPATIONS by Colin Waters by Countryside Press, Newbury Berkshire ISBN 1 85306 601 X A very useful little book that costs about 10 pounds, a lot of the obscure trades are there as well. We must stress we are in no way connected with this book or the author or publishers, but found it in a branch of W.H.Smith (stationers) and thought it would be useful. If anybody else has anymore they are not sure about then please email us and we will see if we can find them for you. ____________________________________________________________________________ Chris and Caroline Hayles Eastleigh Hampshire Home of THE HAMPSHIRE DORSET & the ISLE OF WIGHT VILLAGES EMAIL: chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk WEBSITE ADDRESS: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk Over 350 village histories,parish church histories, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites

Hello Wessex List My interests are; Eckett/Egget/Ecot, Hampshire & Berkshire Sainsbury, Hampshire & Wiltshire Morris, Hampshire & Dorset I would be very pleased to hear from any one with information on the above. Jean.

I wrote: > >I put my answer to the list hoping to be told I am wrong and where gg's >papers really are. <bg> > And it worked!!!! I rec'd this: >I found my gg.grandfather and his brothers and their uncles indenture papers >dating 1785,and 1820`s(they were all apprenticed coopers) at the building >around the corner from the Guildhall.Sorry can`t remember the name but it it >attached to the Guildhall.Have you looked to see if they became Freeman when >they finished their apprenticeships? Well done, Chris. Ernie Bull Bristol, UK. -----Original Message----- From: Granny Francis <grannyfrancis@ukonline.co.uk> To: Ernest Bull <ebbr24315@cableinet.co.uk> Date: 11 February 2001 19:14 Subject: RE: [WSX] Apprentice Records

Help Has anybody else experienced this one? My gg grandparents, Joseph BUCKINGHAM and Amanda LEY, were born (respectively) in 1835 Warwickshire and 1854 Sussex. They married in 1872 in East Stonehouse. They then had a daughter in 1873 in Plymouth. Then they disappeared! Amanda reappeared as a widow on the 1891 East Stonehouse census. However, neither Joseph nor Amanda (nor any children of theirs) appear on the 1881 census that I can find. Does anybody have any ideas as to where they might have gone, or where I should look next? TIA Ros Haywood Somerset, UK www.geocities.com/loveday_anna "West Country Origins" - genealogical info on several Devon & Cornwall families http://haywood.accessgenealogy.com/ H*YW**D Surname Resource Centre http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ballbureau "The Ball Bureau" - BALL family in South Devon, UK http://ros.haywood.tripod.com/ Personal Website

Thanks Sally. I have posted a message and wait to see what develops. ----- Original Message ----- From: sally <sally@foxes89.freeserve.co.uk> To: Mary Seager <MarySeager@talk21.com>; <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [WSX] Deacon > Hello Mary > > I too am researching in Aldbourne - WALKER. Excellent web site to try is > > www.aldbourne.org.uk where they have a Genealogy page to leave messages. I > know that there is a Mrs Olive Deacon still living in the village at Crooked > Corner I believe. > Good luck > Sally > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Seager <MarySeager@talk21.com> > To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:41 PM > Subject: [WSX] Deacon > > > : I am trying to find any information on a George Edgar Deacon and his wife > Jane who lived at Castle Street, Aldboune, Wilts in 1926. (They may have > lived there long before that but the electoral roll gives them there in > 1926 - I haven't checked earlier ). > : I believe they had a son Theodore, but also believe they adopted two more > boys with surname of LITTLE who were born in the Hungerford Work House. in > 1903 and 1905. > : > : I am trying to find the history of my son-in-laws grandparents. > : Please can anyone help? > : > : Mary > : > : > : ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > : Can't find the mail list you need - try John Fuller's page at: > : http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > : > : >

Hi Researchers In the next few week I am returning to my roots to some stumbling over graves, again. The areas I am going to are BERKELEY,UK not USA, STONE, THORNBURY, TYTHERINGTON and the "SODBURYS" all in Glostershire, for those who do not know the area. If any any SURNAMES you want to be checked against HEAD STONES please send them to me. Previous applicants, Surnames will be checked in these areas, as we all know to well where they should be burried, they turn up some where else. Regards Alf Beard.

Hello Mary I too am researching in Aldbourne - WALKER. Excellent web site to try is www.aldbourne.org.uk where they have a Genealogy page to leave messages. I know that there is a Mrs Olive Deacon still living in the village at Crooked Corner I believe. Good luck Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Seager <MarySeager@talk21.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: [WSX] Deacon : I am trying to find any information on a George Edgar Deacon and his wife Jane who lived at Castle Street, Aldboune, Wilts in 1926. (They may have lived there long before that but the electoral roll gives them there in 1926 - I haven't checked earlier ). : I believe they had a son Theodore, but also believe they adopted two more boys with surname of LITTLE who were born in the Hungerford Work House. in 1903 and 1905. : : I am trying to find the history of my son-in-laws grandparents. : Please can anyone help? : : Mary : : : ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== : Can't find the mail list you need - try John Fuller's page at: : http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html : :

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hawgood" <David_Hawgood@compuserve.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: [WSX] Town of Warwick-Hampshire > Paul Benyon writes: > > have I found Warwick which is really Wadwick ie an error in the Ordnance > Survey map or are these alternative names - or what? > > If anyone has an OS map of the area in the middle of Andover, Newbury, > Basingstoke, Whitchurch and can identify farms and hamlets in the Binley, > Egbury, Lichfield triangle I should be most grateful if little light could > be shone on the conundrum?< > > The 1997 edition of the 1:50,000 OS map has WADWICK at grid ref 432531, > just North of Egbury and East of Binley. It doesn't say if it is a farm - > there are about three buildings there. > > regards, > David Hawgood > > The 1986 OS 1:25000 shows Wadwick at grid ref 431529 which appears to consist of two houses. almost equidistance of eitherr side and within a very short distance are Wadwick House and Lower Wadwick House - this appears to consist of three buildings properties. Dick Law > > >

Francis (Smith) FARR and his wife Sarah lived in Winterbourne. Their children, all baptised there, were: - Daniel bapt 9 Nov 1800 Ann bapt 28 Nov 1802. Married George ORGAN in Temple, Bristol on 8 Nov 1830. Sarah bapt 2 Jun 1805 William bapt 6 Sep 1807 Edwin bapt 18 Aug 1811 Have you come across this family in your researching, please? If so, I would very much like to hear from you. Adrian Yorkshire Researching: - Devon - LUSCOMBE, SHOBBROOK, PERRIAM, PITTS, QUICK, STONEMAN, COX & CORNISH. Dorset - WILMOT(T) Gloucestershire - HESKINS, FARR, BAKER, FOWLER & PITT Middlesex - MONTGOMERY & SAWARD Somerset - HOLBROOK, POTHECARY & WILMOT(T) Wiltshire - HAWKINS, HEATH, COOK, BECKINGHAM, DASH, RUDMAN, FARR, WATKINS, FELL, DREW, WILTSHIRE, WAIT(E) & WHIT(E)BREAD Carmarthenshire - PARRY & MORGANS Glamorgan - PARRY & POTHECARY Monmouthshire - POTHECARY Anywhere - MUDON

The BVRI shows that Daniel FARR married Sarah SMITH at Nettleton on 12 October 1769. Their four known children, Francis Smith, Hester, Ann and John, were baptised at Nettleton between 1770 and 1779. The BVRI also shows that a Daniel FARR married Ann SMITH in Nettleton on 25 February 1782. Unfortunately the BVRI does not show if this was a second marriage for Daniel and the BVRI does not include burials. Does the actual parish register show the marital status of Daniel in the second marriage shown above, please, and is there a burial entry for his first wife Sarah between 1779 and 1782? Adrian Yorkshire Researching: - Devon - LUSCOMBE, SHOBBROOK, PERRIAM, PITTS, QUICK, STONEMAN, COX & CORNISH. Dorset - WILMOT(T) Gloucestershire - HESKINS, FARR, BAKER, FOWLER & PITT Middlesex - MONTGOMERY & SAWARD Somerset - HOLBROOK, POTHECARY & WILMOT(T) Wiltshire - HAWKINS, HEATH, COOK, BECKINGHAM, DASH, RUDMAN, FARR, WATKINS, FELL, DREW, WILTSHIRE, WAIT(E) & WHIT(E)BREAD Carmarthenshire - PARRY & MORGANS Glamorgan - PARRY & POTHECARY Monmouthshire - POTHECARY Anywhere - MUDON

Hi List I wonder if there is anyone who has access to the 1891 census for Bath and could look for 10 Circus Mews, Bath for my grandfather's parents George JONES and Emma (nee RYMAN) who married in 1882. Many thanks Regards Ann in Stafford

Hullo everybody, here's a re-repeat submission of some of my Wessex interests, starting with names all in Wiltshire: BAKER, Coombe Bissett & Martin BARTLETTT, Orcheston CARTER, Figheldean FLEMINGTON, all etc FORD, Ditteridge area FRANCIS, Gt Wishford & Martin HAYTER, Downton area HARFORD Homington JAMES, Seend/ Box area KILL, Durrington KELLOW, Orcheston LAWES, Avon valley NOBLE, Downton PRIDDY Shrewton REDMAN Stratford Tony SARTAIN, Box area SONMER, Seend area STAPLES Downton WALLIN, Shrewton/Figheldean/Whitsbury WHEELER, Stratford Tony YELF, Damerham Please get in touch if any of these are yours as well, Chris

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:16:48 +0000, you wrote: >>>Dear List, >>>Forgive my ignorance but, is there a place in Hampshire called Warwick? >>>Thank you, >>>Carol Lloyd nee SHIRLEY >> >>Lots of waffle about Warwick parishes > <snip> >this morning by pure coincidence I selected the option for Wadwick and >happened across a small hamlet in Hampshire called Warwick: > Hi Whilst I wouldn't normally say thank you through the list, I thought I should also mention that the on-line map (1877) showing Warwick in place of Wadwick, Hants appears to be incorrect: not used to finding errors on an OS map, although more recent versions are certainly correct! So a big thank you to all who were able to bail me out of my confusion:-)) Regards Paul Portland

When I tried to find my ggrandfathers apprenticeship records in the London Guildhall Library, I was told that, unless the indentures and some other papers (can't remember what he called them) are kept by the apprentice's family, they are likely to be lost. And gg was a goldsmith. I put my answer to the list hoping to be told I am wrong and where gg's papers really are. <bg> Ernie Bull Bristol, UK. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Benyon <pbenyon@BTInternet.com> To: WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 11 February 2001 12:23 Subject: [WSX] Apprentice Records >

In message <of0d8t0om55p3kphjeju43l80hb5rfl324@4ax.com>, Paul Benyon <pbenyon@BTInternet.com> writes snip >this morning by pure coincidence I selected the option for Wadwick and >happened across a small hamlet in Hampshire called Warwick: > >http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldSite/10hants141/HTML/fs_14016001o.htm > >which also includes Upper and Lower Warwick Farms. > > >If anyone has an OS map of the area in the middle of Andover, Newbury, >Basingstoke, Whitchurch and can identify farms and hamlets in the >Binley, Egbury, Lichfield triangle I should be most grateful if little >light could be shone on the conundrum? > Paul, OS Explorer sheet 144 - (western half) NGR SU4353 - Wadwick also Wadwick House and Lower Wadwick House all being on a road called Wadwick Bottom ! Half-a-mile east of Binley and two miles north of St Mary Bourne. By-the-way, the Lichfield in Hampshire is actually Litchfield which is about two miles east of Wadwick. -- Mike Lillington (The Ordnance Survey Historical Mapping Specialist) RALLYMAPS of WEST WELLOW, PO BOX 11, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 8XX. U.K. Tel/FAX: 01794 515444 International: +44 1794 515444 Website: http://www.rallymap.demon.co.uk/ An excellent site, so much more than just maps !

I found this in a book and wondered if anyone was interested. Maybe there are some to whom it may be useful. Posted to a couple of lists so sorry for duplication. Carol in Victoria, Canada REGNAL YEARS WILLIAM 1 DEC 25 1066 WILLIAM 11 SEPT 26 1087 HENRY 1 AUG 5 1100 STEPHEN DEC 26 1135 HENRY 11 DEC 19 1154 RICHARD 1 SEPT 3 1189 JOHN MAY 27 1199 HENRY 111 OCT 28 1216 EDWARD 1 NOV 20 1272 EDWARD 11 JULY 8 1307 EDWARD 111 JAN 25 1327 RICHARD 11 JUNE 22 1377 HENRY 1V SEPT 30 1399 HENRY V MAR21 1413 HENRV1 SEPT 1 1422 EDWARD 1V MAR 4 1461 EDWARD V APR 9 1483 RICHARD 111 JUN 26 1483 HENRY V11 AUG 22 1485 HENRY V111 APR 22 1509 EDWARD V1 JAN 28 1547 MARY JUL 6 1553 PHILIP & MARY JULY 25 1554 ELIZABETH 1 NOV 17 1558 JAMES 1 MAR 24 1603 CHARLES 1 MAR 27 1625 COMMONWEALTH PERIOD NO REGNAL YEAR JAN 30 1649 TO MAY 9 1660 CHARLES 11 JAN 30 1649 JAMES 11 FEB 6 1685 INTERREGNUM DEC 12 1688 TO FEB 12 1689 WILLIAM 111 & MARY FEB 13 1689 WILLIAM 111 DEC 28 1694 ANNE MAR 8 1702 GEORGE 1 AUG 1 1714 GEORGE 11 JUN11 1727 GEORGE 111 OCT 25 1760 GEORGE 1V JAN 29 1820 WILLIAM 1V JUN26 1830 VICTORIA JUN 20 1837 REGNAL YEAR DISCONTINUED 1752 NEW YEAR CHANGED FROM MARCH 25 TO JAN 1

A very kind lister took the trouble to reply to my posting Re; BULLs in 1861, to tell me that the OPRs he held contained no refs to my people. I thanked him and added: <<Knowing where not to look is very important. <<Elimination of the irrelevant leaves one with a higher proportion of that which is relevant and a far better chance of reaching one's gaol. So, if you see a posting, and find nothing in your own census data or the OPR or whatever that you have transcribed, don't hit the <Del>, hit <Reply> instead and let them know. Ernie Bull Bristol, UK.

Hi there Roger White, Thank you for the enquiry to the name White. My family, "Sherren" are all from the Broadmayne, Dorchester and Weymouth and other parts of Dorset. One of my ancestors was possibly married to a White and the reason is because most of the children have the name White as their middle name. I do not have a definite on this. My William Sherren was born in 1744 in Broadmayne and may have been married to an Alice White(?) who was born unknown but who died in 1808. If you have this Alice White in your tree I would be very interested. Derk sherren@csolve.net

Further to Rosemary's previous message. Forwarded: I am interested in indentured apprentice records (mainly carpenters) for 1825-1885. Mainly Somerset, Glouc., Possibly Wilts? Thank you, Rosemary Barbour