Hi All, Did sailors have to be put on a census if they were at sea, what I mean is, was there a census for sailors?? Also if you think someone died whilst at sea, would there be a register of deaths at sea? Thanks Annette.

Hi All , Can someone do a look up on the 1881 census in the Hampshire area for CAWTE, JOHN head 1844 HAMP HAMP CAWTE (CAUGHT) AGNES daur 1872 HAMP HAMP These entries are in the index. Or any LOUISA CAWTE aged around 32 in the 1881 census. I am getting desperate now as thet are hiding. Thanks to you all. Best Wishes. Annette.

Hi Everyone: I am doing a favor for a friend who is trying to locate a town in England called Birdsall. I have done very little research in England and was not sure how to go about locating this town. Any advice appreciated. Debbie

Hi Annette Could this be them?? Regards Joy **************************************************************** Dwelling: 23 Grove Street Census Place: Southampton St Mary, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1209 Folio 35 Page 6 Louisa CAWLE M 32 F Weymouth Rel: Wife (Head) Occ: Husband Away Thomas CAWLE U 6 M Southton Rel: Son Bessey CAWLE U 2 F Southton Rel: Daur Bessey CASHAM M 35 F Stafford, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Dress Maker

As a new subscriber I am posting my interest in the servants at Windsor Great Park and any records which may be available. The 1881 listing shows a steward who could be a brother of a great-grandfather. Is the 1891 Census accessible? Geoff

I am new to this list whose wide area of interest will help fill some gaps in my research. An ancestor's brother is thought to be Henry WITHERS who is listed in 1881 as born in Enford ,Wilts. Can anyone offer any information about him and of any records of this parish in which he may appear? Geoff

Saturday, May 14, 1949 from a Halifax, paper Edith Lucy Mitchell The death occurred yesterday at 32 Cabot St. of Mrs. Edith Mitchell, 65, wife of Charles A. Mitchell. She was the daughter of the late Mr. & Mrs. John Newman and was born in Southampton, England, where she resided until coming to Halifax 35 years ago. Mrs. Mitchell was a member of the United Church. She is survived by her husband, and three sons, Cecil W., Saint John, Cyril S and Claude L of Halifax. The remains are resting at the family residence 32 Cabot Street where a service will be held Monday at 2 PM. Rev. B. R. Tupper will officiate. Interment will be in Camp Hill Cemetery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Halifax, Nova Scotia]

I am seeking information relating to the parents & siblings of Francis WELCH . He married Eliza Bourn(e) from Eversley in Hampshire & had a son James b. 1836 in Eversley. Thanks, Catherine Shingler folkestone

One of the reasons thyroid function tests are now carried out within a few days of birth is to prevent a child like this slipping through the net. Pre the ?1940's when iodised salt was introduced and diets were less varied, many more children were born with thyroid disease, which if left untreated, led them to develop with impaired mental and physical function; in fact the term 'cretin' was used as the technical term to describe children with. low thyroid function. The myth that it was caused by inbreeding is largely just that, but thyroid dysfunction was, and still is a very common disease, the only difference is that now it is much more easily treated. Incidentally, there was a disease known as 'Derbyshire neck', in which it was noticed that large numbers of people, (but mainly females) developed swellings or goitres in their throats. Research showed it to be due to an underactive thyroid, caused by a lack of iodine:- the water in Derbyshire, unlike other areas, contains no iodine. Now, if any of these untreated women gave birth to babies, their risk of growing up physically and mentally impaired was very high. It is thought that this disease was the reason there were so many jokes about ' village idiots'. Moya Page nee BANTING, Lincoln, UK researching BANTINGs and PERREN,PEREN, PERYN, PERRIN, PERIN ----- Original Message ----- From: <Libran108@aol.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: [WSX] Handicap Imbicile on Census On the 1881 Census one of my ancestors children is listed as "Handicap Imbicile" . Considering wording was a lot different back then what do you think the definition of "Imbicile" was ? Will

Today the 1851 Census for Curry Rivell, Drayton, Hambridge, Swell, Fivehead, Curry Mallett. Beercrocombe, Isle Abbotts, Isle Brewers, Puckington & Barrington. have been downloaded to the Usual recipients. Film Number H.O. 107/1926 is now completed and The Index for it has also been downloaded. Next Up: Film Number H.O. 107/1923 Taunton St. James, Bishop Hull, Staplegrove, Cheddon Fitxpaine, West Monkton - etc etc This single reel film will take 3 weeks to transcribe. Gordon Please Record New Web Page: http://www.mycensuses.com Email gordonb@mycensuses.com Gordon W. Beavington, 560, Hemlock Road, Kelowna, B.C. Canada, V1X5G4 Transcriber of Gloucestershire, Bristol & Somerset Censuses (250)-765-7621

Hi List, Many thanks to all who told me where Southbroom is, then was able to find it on an old map. Now think it is a bit far from where the children were born, Shaftsbury. Thanks Daphne N.Z.

Hi Listers, I have traced my wife's grandmother and ancestors to Cornwall. The surname is VERRAN. I have checked the rootsweb list and there are a number of Cornish mailing lists but they are all either for immigrants to other countries or for a specific parish - not mine. I'm asking on this list because it is the closest to Cornwall that I belong to. Does anyone know of a general Cornwall list? Thanks Paul

On the 1881 Census one of my ancestors children is listed as "Handicap Imbicile" . Considering wording was a lot different back then what do you think the definition of "Imbicile" was ? Will

G'day A correspondent is a descendant of William FRAMES who was minister of the Forest Green Congregational Church in Nailsworth from 1788 to 1799. He and his wife Elizabeth nee MINETT are buried in a cemetery right opposite the site of the old church in Nailsworth. Any interest in this family? Please note this is not my family; an entry of my GLS Immigrants to Australia pre 1888 index. The grandson of William FRAMES, Clement Wall FRAMES and his wife Elizabeth (nee EDWARDS) arrived in VIC in 1853 and left there for South Africa in 1861. Clement's cousin Clementina FRAMES also arrived in VIC in 1864; she died there unmarried in 1907. Regards Kaye Kaye Purnell <kayepur@ozemail.com.au> Ancestors from GLS who came to Oz? Database kept on GLS arrivals to AUS pre 1888. Entries happily accepted; searches done. Visit my site at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kayepur>. Snail mail to 15 Balla Machree Way, Gymea Bay NSW 2227 AUS, including SSAE or 1 IRC.

Hi to all, While researching I came across a site called "Census News 2001" which deals with the 1901 and 1911 census records of the UK. I thought you all might find it quite interesting as to what is going on behind the scenes to release these records to the public. The website is at: http://members.aol.com/census75/news.htm Best, Joan in Freeport,N.Y.

Pat, I am interested in the WEBER name (GRACE WEBER born about 1829?), but my searches at Wivelscombe & Dunkerton have proved to have been unsuccessful! They have been unsuccessful everywhere!!!!! Grace is shown on 1881 Census as a resident of MELKSHAM, with DUNKERTON as her place of birth! I have a Grace being baptised at WEDMORE, but are not sure if the record is the correct match! What information do you have? Adrian

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:22:20 -0500, you wrote: >I am trying to find information on Mary Ann STEVENS. The census says she was born in Bishops Canning. I am not able to find her there. Any help would be most appreciated. > >Kay > Hi Kay Further to an earlier query today regarding Southbroom, this was a chapelry within the parish of Bishops Canning, perhaps she was included in the PRs for SB? When one answering the question in the census concerning where born I believe they sometimes asked "which parish born" rather than "where were you born", judging by some of the replies I've seen in the census. Alternatively perhaps she was baptised as a non-conformist? Although regret I am not aware of what the various flavours of non-conformism that existed in the BC area at this time, the following parishes and non-conformist churches were in nearby Devizes for the dates stated: > UK Parishes > Earliest Latest > Name Type CountyCountrORDREF Date Date > Devizes P WIL ENG SU0061 > Devizes R WIL ENG SU0061 > Devizes, Baptist Church N WIL ENG SU0061 1772 1836 > Devizes, Independent Chapel N WIL ENG SU0061 1819 1875 > Devizes, New Baptist Chapel N WIL ENG SU0061 1736 1882 > Devizes, Old Baptist Chapel N WIL ENG SU0061 1835 1940 > Devizes, Old Baptist Church N WIL ENG SU0061 1705 1797 > Devizes, Presbyterian Chapel N WIL ENG SU0061 1750 1890 > Devizes, Presbyterian Church N WIL ENG SU0061 1781 1837 > Devizes, St John's Church P WIL ENG SU0061 1559 1929 > Devizes, St Mary's Chapel (Indeopendent) N WIL ENG SU0061 1774 1837 > Devizes, St Mary's Congregatiuonal Church N WIL ENG SU0061 1774 1906 > Devizes, St Mary's Wesleyan Church N WIL ENG SU0061 1824 1837 > Devizes, St Peter's Church P WIL ENG SU0061 1868 1880 > Devizes, Wesleyan Methodist Chapel N WIL ENG SU0061 1885 1906 > Devizes, Wesleyan Methodist Circuit N WIL ENG SU0061 1829 1900 > Devizes,St John the Baptist P WIL ENG SU0061 1559 1954 > Devizes,St Mary the Virgin P WIL ENG SU0061 1569 1936 Source: Parish Locator. Regards Paul Portland

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:43:29 -0600, you wrote: >I am leaving for England the last or March to research FORD and COLLIS >families in Somerset, Dorset counties (Queen Camel, Lydlinch and >Mere,Wiltshire) Were would be the best place to start for vital >records(1700's thru mid 1800)? All help and direction greatly appreciated. >Thank you. Jean Hi Jean The County Records Offices are the places to go: details of the URLs follow. You should try and ensure that you book a reader for the fiche at Taunton and for the microfilm at Dorchester, ideally before you go: both offices have e-mail, they can sometimes be quite busy, although this is not always the case! For Somerset you need to look at the following page: http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/howuse.htm For Dorset the Records Office Home Page is: http://www.dorset-cc.gov.uk/corporatehome/CorporateServices/ArchivesService/ArchivesService-SEBS-4R6GEB.nsf/71cc30efc094359c802564be0065e473/a48df589f0fd530e0025678b005cbbe3?OpenDocument but if you find that a bit of a mouthful try: http://www.dorset-cc.gov.uk/CorporateHome/CorporateHome-RJPE-45SK5S.nsf and take links via the A-Z index to Archives! I'm not sure about Wiltshire and Somerset, but as some of your research looks as though it may be post 1 July 1837 then the Dorset Record Office has a full set of the GRO's Index for Civil Registration of Births, Marriages and Deaths for England and Wales, which you might find useful if you are unable to find a baptism or marriage? They have a reader for use for short periods eg half an hour, but if you think you might need longer use then book a fiche reader for the GROs Index too! I know it may sound a little greedy, but some folk book both a reader for the PRs and one for the GROs Index if they think they can use both. You might also find that some of the Parish Registers have been transcribed for certain periods eg Lydlinch: if this is the case you may well save yourself some considerable time searching through the films and fiche of Parish Registers if you make use of them: the staff there will be only too pleased to advise you of what they have available. Dorset not only have the Parish Registers, but also the Bishop's Transcripts, although they only survive from about 1732, as most BTs for Dorset prior to this date went up in smoke in the Great Fire at Blandford Forum. You may well find that some of these offices carry transcripts of MIs, which I have found immensely useful at times: surprising what folk used to put on their grave markers :-) If some of your research covers the periods of the census eg 1841 and 1851 etc then the offices concerned carry the fiche for their relevant counties. If you do find you have time for some Wiltshire research then you should have a look at the following page for details of the Wiltshire County Record Office at Trowbridge, Wilts. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/WRO/index.html BTW the weather today is cold (5 deg C) and wet and we had snow over the weekend and night time temps were below freezing, so make sure you have warm clothing and suitable footware, but lets hope you bring a little Spring with you and we shall all be happy :-)) If you'd like details of the PRs and transcripts held by Dorset RO and PRs held by Wilts please let me know. Details of Somerset PRs etc are available on-line thru' their web-site. Best wishes for your visit and your research. In my experience all the offices are welcoming and helpful. Regards Paul Portland

Hello all, >From the 1871 census for Southampton can anyone find me the occupants of:- 30. RUSSELL STREET. 7. COLEMAN STREET. 18. ALBERT STREET......all Southampton. I am looking for Agnes Louisa Grace Cawte Thanks. Annette.

Hello All, Does anyone have the 1871 census returns for Southampton?? Thanks Annette.