I am seeking information about GUNNs in the Banbury & Oxford areas, particularly Hanwell & Marston. I know there are GUNNs in the family but have no information about them. I am wondering whether they come from one of these areas particularly if there are any connections with Broughton, as it is possible they are related through the women marrying GUNNs. I am looking for a connection between the HUTCHINGS of Broughton Fulling Mill & GUNNs. Any help/pointers would be appreciated. Catherine Shingler Folkestone

Hi I am new subscriber and list my interests. GOSNEY Dorchester, Crewkerne HICKS St George, Bristol REED St George Bristol LOCK Dorchester LACY Crewkerne SELMAN Bath YOUNG Bath. Thanks Brian

Could SKS suggest where I look next. In the 1841 census Robert Perham was living in Walcot Bath with wife Ann? Robert born Wins. Som. Ann born Embr. Som I have searched the Winsham, Winscombe and Emborough Parish registers cannot find the birth of Robert or the marriage of Robert Perham and Ann? Robert died 28 August 1859 aged 77 so born around 1782. Would be thankful for any suggestions. Regards Ann New zealand.

Hi Wessex Listers, I am enclosing information about our next meeting in in Salway Ash on Saturday 10 th March. Jane Ferentzi-Sheppard, West Dorse Group S&DFHS WEST DORSET GROUP “In Search of Martha Brown” -A local murder- Nicola Thorne & Graham Chester Saturday 10th March Salway Ash Village Hall, 10.00 – 4.30 10.00 Registration 10.30 “In Search of Martha Brown” Introduction to Martha, video & talk Nicola Thorne, author of “My Name is Martha Brown” 11.20 Coffee 11.35 “Birdsmoorgate – the scene of the crime” Graham Chester, researcher 12.20 Discussion 12.40 Lunch 2.00 “A Personal History of Martha”, Nicola Thorne 2.40 Local Family Connections to Martha, Jane Ferentzi-Sheppard & others 3.15 Round table discussion 4.00 Tea ***** Book sales All welcome – £2 all day or £1 per session, includes coffee/tea, biscuits/cake. Lunches available at the Anchor Inn For more information contact: S&DFHS, West Dorset Research Centre, 45 West St, Bridport, DT6 3QW Tel: 01308 458061 e-mail: westdorsetsdfhs@cs.com

I've had several replies asking for application details for enumerators. You could try the ONS website at: http://www.statistics.gov.uk However, you could ask if there are vacancies in your own area at your local job centre. HTH Ernie Bull Bristol, UK.

Hi, I am new to the list. I am trying to find out what happened to Harriet. On the 1 Aug 1857 she married Henry JOBBINS in the parish of Berkely, Glo. They arrived in Sydney on the 1 Dec 1857. On the 9 Nov 1859 Henry married again. He said he was a bachelor. There is no death record for Harriet in NSW so I assume she returned home. Would really like to what happened to her. Would she have assumed her maiden name or what? I found a baptism for a Harriet WILKES on the 24 Jul 1831, in the parish of Berkely, which gave her parents as Henry and Celia Wilkes. Would also be interested in making contact with anyone else researching JOBBINS. Regards Susanna Greenwood (nee Jobbins) Sydney

A very big thank you to everyone who helped look for my Cawte's. And a special thank you to ALAN for all my cawte's and to JOY for finding them under the name of CAWLE. Pats on backs for all concerned,,you made my day,no week. Annette.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:15:41 -0000, you wrote: >Hi All, >Did sailors have to be put on a census if they were at sea, >what I mean is, was there a census for sailors?? >Also if you think someone died whilst at sea, would there be a register of deaths at sea? >Thanks Annette. Hi Annette Sincere apologies - this should have read (slight change to first and second paragraphs) To answer your last question first: Births & Deaths at Sea returns (known as the Marine Register Book) commenced on 1st July 1837 and relate to those events occurring at sea on any ship registered in Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This series can be seen at 1 Myddelton Street London EC1R 1UW: Apart from Births, marriages and deaths at sea, 1854-1890 I can't find them in the LDS Catalogue under England, but I haven't looked too hard as there is a lot of material to scan through. But, from anecdotal comment, there appear to be many exceptions to the rule and some registrations are thought to have occurred at the port of arrival or have not been transferred from the Ship's Log. I'm not sure what sort of sailor you are referring to ie Merchant or Royal Navy, but as Paul states RN personnel at sea are included in the Northern Borders and Miscellany CD of the LDS CD set for 1881, although again I'm not too sure how complete this is. However, if your man was in the Merchant Navy only those along side on the night of the census are included, although I have heard anecdotal evidence that some ships that may have been or were expected to be in UK coastal waters at the time of the census are also have been included. The crews of RN Ships alongside in the UK and those merchant navy vessels mentioned above are included within the enumeration for the town at which they were berthed on the night of the census, but for those in coastal waters I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to where you might find them! Regards Paul Portland

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:15:41 -0000, you wrote: >Hi All, >Did sailors have to be put on a census if they were at sea, >what I mean is, was there a census for sailors?? >Also if you think someone died whilst at sea, would there be a register of deaths at sea? >Thanks Annette. Hi Annette To answer your last question first: Births & Deaths at Sea returns (known as the Marine Register Book) commenced on 1st July 1837 and relate to those events occurring at sea on any ship registered in Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This series can be seen at 1 Myddelton Street London EC1R 1UW: Births, marriages and deaths at sea, 1854-1890 I can't find them in the LDS Catalogue under England, but I haven't looked too hard as there is a lot of material to scan through. But, from anecdotal comment, there appear to be many exceptions to the rule and some registrations are thought to have occurred at the port of arrival or have not been transferred from the Ship's Log. I'm not sure what sort of sailor you are referring to ie Merchant or Royal Navy, but as Paul states RN personnel at sea are included in the Northern Borders and Miscellany CD of the LDS CD set for 1881, although again I'm not too sure how complete this is. However, if your man was in the Merchant Navy only those along side on the night of the census are included, although I have heard anecdotal evidence that some ships that may have been or were expected to be in UK coastal waters at the time of the census are also have been included. The crews of RN Ships alongside in the UK and those merchant navy vessels mentioned above are included within the enumeration for the town at which they were berthed on the night of the census, but for those in coastal waters I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to where you might find them! Regards Paul Portland

Hi Annette! The 1881 Census set (Northern Borders and Miscellany) contains Royal Navy Details and there would appear also to be some for Scotland on the Lowlands CD. Cheers Paul Alternative Address: mountpleasant@goginan.fsbusiness.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "chrislock" <chrislock@ntlworld.com> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: [WSX] 1881 census men at sea > Hi All, > Did sailors have to be put on a census if they were at sea, > what I mean is, was there a census for sailors?? > Also if you think someone died whilst at sea, would there be a register of deaths at sea? > Thanks Annette. > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Looking for a modern UK map site - try: > for new maps see: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ > http://www.ordsvy.gov.uk/getamap/getamap_index.htm > >

Dear List, Just to let you know that I am taking a break for a short time. My interests are:- John Walter SHIRLEY born ? 1850 ? St. Germans Parish, CON- Corporal Royal Artillery. Mary SHIRLEY nee GLANVILLE/HOSKING born 1852 Saltash, St. Germans Parish, - Wife of above. Their children were:- Lucy SHIRLEY baptised 1878 - I.O.W. Henry James SHIRLEY born 1879 - Sandown - I.O.W Ethel Mary SHIRLEY born 1880 - Tamar Street, Saltash, St. Germans Parish - CON Alberta Ann SHIRLEY born April 1882 - Fore Street, Saltash, St. Germans Parish - CON Alfred George SHIRLEY born May 1889 - Tamar Street, Saltash, St. Germans Parish - CON John Robert SHIRLEY (Robert John- on birth cert) born Sept 1891 - Albert Road, Saltash - St. Germans Parish - CON Sylvia Eveline SHIRLEY born Jan 1893 - Albert Road, Saltash - St. Germans Parish - CON All above are my huge brick wall, which cannot seem to be knocked down. Please E; mail me off list if there is any interest or more information regarding these names. Particularly if anyone comes across marriages/deaths of above people. Thank you for being a wonderful list, I will be back soon. Kindest Regards, Carol Lloyd nee SHIRLEY alloy@lloydy37.fsnet.co.uk

Arrangements are now well in hand for the "Count Me In" 2001 UK Census. If any of you UK residents fancy being part of this event, there is still time to apply for jobs as enumerators. Appointments will be made in March. You will each deliver forms to about 400 homes between 9 and 27 April. The work load is light and anyone with a job could handle it working just evenings and weekends. Most of the forms will be posted back - we hope - and enumerators will only be out again between the 9 and 18 May to follow up forms not returned. The pay is about £400 + expenses. The forms will come as a bit of a shock to genies who are familiar with the bare-bones data of previous censuses. Lots of questions about work and travel are now included, but you will only be asked the country you were born in, nothing more. I am a census team leader for part of Bristol. If anyone has any questions, I'll try to answer them. Later on there will be a free Census Help-Line. Ernie Bull Bristol, UK.

In message <74.82d6c82.27ce7147@aol.com>, AlecPlmr@aol.com writes >The Trenchard's of Dorset are my primary genealogical interest. It is >difficult however to accurately interpret some of the 1887 hand writing of a >John Trenchard who at that date appears to be living at SPARSHOLT FARM, >ROMSEY. Inasmuch that it is difficult for me to rely upon my interpretation >of that hand wriiten address, is there a fellow list member who is either >able to confirm or correct my 'translation' ? >Alec Palmer. Weymouth. >xxviii. ii. mmi. Alec - I think it is Spursholt Farm about 2 miles out of Romsey on the north side of the A27 main road to Salisbury, before you get to Embley p ark of Florence Nightingale fame. > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== >Useful Somerset Sites: >http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/SOMcontents.html >http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/somhome.htm > -- Mike Lillington (The Ordnance Survey Historical Mapping Specialist) RALLYMAPS of WEST WELLOW, PO BOX 11, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 8XX. U.K. Tel/FAX: 01794 515444 International: +44 1794 515444 Website: http://www.rallymap.demon.co.uk/ An excellent site, so much more than just maps !

Hi Listers, In conjunction with the question as to how sailors at sea were handled on the census, I would be interested in knowing the same information regarding those who served in the military. Did the military conduct its own census and publish it separately? If so, where would I be able to find that information? Thanks, Mary Lu in California

Hi All, Could someone do a look up for me im the 1851 census, probably in WEYMOUTH for:- JAMES DUKES head Coachman AGNES LOUISA GRACE DUKES daur 2, Hopefully there will be the other members of the family. James was decribed as a coachman on his daughters marriage certificate in 1870 in Southampton. Thanks Annette.

Hi Listers I am a new subscriber to the list. Looking for John Richard NEWMAN born 1842 at Highworth, Wilts. His parents are Richard NEWMAN and Ann GRIFFITHS. Would be grateful if anybody could look him up in 1851 census for Highworth. Eventually John Richard NEWMAN joined the navy at Bristol and ended up at Portsmouth Dockyard. Ann GRIFFITHS eventually moved to Birmingham. Any info appreciated. Elsie Tallack ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

I would like to thank everyone who emailed me with information about the crest in Yatton Keynell Church. I think I've laid one myth to rest. Honor Humphries. hhumphries@grenville63.freeserve.co.uk in Monmouthshire, S.Wales, U.K.

I am looking for connections to the NURSE family in Winford/Barrow Common/then Bedminster,Bishport. Marriages took place with the WITHERS and RICH families and members of the family were farriers and dairyman(@Withywood Farm in 1881) Any suggestions welcome. Geoff

Hello Annette Your CAWTE look-ups Dwelling: Census Place: Bishopstoke, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341301 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1234 Folio 35 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John CAWTE M 37 M Bishopstoke, Hampshire Rel: Head Occ: Carpenter Isabella CAWTE M 24 F Headley, Hampshire, England Rel: Wife Occ: Carpenter Wife Peter CAWTE 2 M Bishopstoke, Hampshire, England Rel: Son William CAWTE 10 m M Bishopstoke, Hampshire, England Rel: Son Dwelling: Brickfield Census Place: Romsey Extra, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341299 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1224 Folio 48 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William CAUGHT M 43 M Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Head Occ: Railway Labourer Elizebeth CAUGHT M 43 F Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Daur Occ: Laundress Frank CAUTE (CAUGHT) U 14 M Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Son Occ: Farm Labourer Joseph CAUTE (CAUGHT) 11 M Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Agnes CAWTE (CAUGHT) 9 F Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Alice CAWTE (CAUGHT) 6 F Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Herbet CAWTE (CAUGHT) 2 M Romsey, Hampshire Rel: Son Occ: Son No Louisa aged about 32 in the national index:- CAWTE, Louisa Wife <1826> Hamp Hamp CAWTE, Louisa Wife <1828> Hamp CAWTE, Louisa Serv <1857> Hamp Hamp CAWTE, Louisa Serv <1863> Hamp Hamp CAWTE, Louise Dau <1872> Kent Kent Anne chrislock wrote: > > Hi All , > Can someone do a look up on the 1881 census in the Hampshire area for > CAWTE, JOHN head 1844 HAMP HAMP > CAWTE (CAUGHT) AGNES daur 1872 HAMP HAMP > These entries are in the index. > Or any LOUISA CAWTE aged around 32 in the 1881 census. > I am getting desperate now as thet are hiding. > Thanks to you all. > Best Wishes. > Annette. > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list send the command "unsubscribe" to: > WESSEX-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > WESSEX-PLUS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.)

The Trenchard's of Dorset are my primary genealogical interest. It is difficult however to accurately interpret some of the 1887 hand writing of a John Trenchard who at that date appears to be living at SPARSHOLT FARM, ROMSEY. Inasmuch that it is difficult for me to rely upon my interpretation of that hand wriiten address, is there a fellow list member who is either able to confirm or correct my 'translation' ? Alec Palmer. Weymouth. xxviii. ii. mmi.