Any info on ancestors of these two people would be greatly appreciated: Matthew LUMBERT Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Betty MOREY/MORRING/MOORING Marriage: 26 Feb 1764 Axminster, Devon, England Source Information: Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M050251 1559-1812 0916807 Film 1037012 Thankyou Philip Lombard Researching ELSY/ELSEY Norfolk pre 1800 NFHS Memb.no.5014 LUMBARD/LUMBERT Devon/Dorset pre 1780 DFHS Memb.no.10512 S&DFHS Memb.no.8724.U Medieval Jews of Exeter in the 13th Century

Alf, I have Peglars in Berkeley during the 1800's if you come across any of those I would be very interested. Many thanks Sue ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sue Smith 01892 835974 Fax 0870 055 2959

Does anyone have any BAKER interests in Longfleet, Dorset? I know that my g-g-grandfather's sister Mary Hippisley CURTIS married a W H BAKER (no first names known as yet) sometime after 1881 and had at least three children - Robert, Bertha and William. I've just found an envelope addressed to Mrs W H BAKER at "Fernville", Longfleet, Poole, Dorset. Unfortunately the actual letter is missing!! Mike Matthews listowner: NECK-L@rootsweb.com email: mike@boddyparts.co.uk website: www.boddyparts.co.uk ~ my website includes info about my CURTIS, HIPPISLEY, MATTHEWS, HEAD, SMITH, BODDY, NATION, JENKINS, TOY and NECK ancestors, as well as two pages of photos from around Bristol and the West Country of England.

Can anybody out there please help me??? Henry SEEMS and Ann TREHERN were married 1753 East Woodhay, Hants. Ann was bapt 1728, Coombe, d of Thomas and Mary nee OATES. Henry was probably Henry SIMS s of Richard and Esther nee POCOCK bapt West Woodhay 1727. What I am trying to find out is what happened to Henry and Ann after their marriage. They had no children bapt East or West Woodhay or any of the adjacent Hampshire parishes. They do not appear in the Hampshire or Wiltshire Burial Indexes. Did they move to Berkshire? Or did they perhaps settle in Linkenholt, Hants, for which no PR survive between 1750 and 1780? (except the Phillimore Marriage transcripts) In particular, I am looking for anything which might either confirm or eliminate them as parents of William SEEMS or SIMS who marr Frances GLASS Easton Royal, Wilts, 1776. William and Frances called their eldest son Henry and their eldest daughter Ann. They settled for several years in Faccombe, which is adjacent to the Woodhays (and Linkenholt). Any help/advice, etc would be very wecome. Dorothy

Debbie asked: >I am doing a favor for a friend who is trying to locate a town in England called Birdsall. I have done very little research in England and was not sure how to go about locating this town.< Birdsall is a village in the East Riding of Yorkshire, midway between York and Scarborough. There are a number of gazetteers which help find United Kingdom and Ireland place names, linked from GENUKI - see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Gazetteers.html regards, David Hawgood

Min Sarah George GIBBONS was baptised 13 September 1835 at Doulting, Somerset and was the daughter of James GIBBONS and Sarah nee GEORGE of Bodden Farm, Doulting. As far as I know she was one of five children of James and Sarah. I suspect the James GIBBONS who registered her death was her father, although I only have information on him up to 1851. But then I've not looked in Crewkerne for this family. I will now add this to my to do list. In the 1851 census Sarah was working as the housekeeper for her uncle, Stephen GIBBONS at Croscombe. Unfortunately, I don't have the reference to hand, but I can let you have it if you wish. James GIBBONS and Sarah nee GEORGE were married on 10 January 1825 at Batcombe, Somerset by licence. Their other children were Henry GIBBONS baptised 21 Apr 1829 at Batcombe; Mary Ann GIBBONS baptised 15 April 1831 at Doulting; Thomas John GIBBONS baptised 20 January 1832 Doulting and dead by 1841; and Elizabeth GIBBONS baptised 20 October 1839 Doulting, but possibly dead by 1851. James GIBBONS was the son of John GIBBONS and Elizabeth nee GILES of Batcombe, Somerset. He was the seventh of their 11 children. Thanks to a distant cousin I have extensive information on the GIBBONS family and I am happy to share this if you reply off-list. I am descended from John GIBBONS' brother Henry GIBBONS and his wife Sarah HUTTON. If anyone else recognises any of the above names, do get in touch. Ellen Duffy Bow, London, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Mim <mintam@goconnect.net> To: <WESSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: [WSX] Sarah George GIBBONS: COLES & GLYDE Families. > Am interested in finding out about Sarah George GIBBONS who died in March quarter of 1871, aged 35, registered at Chard. A James Gibbons gave the information at her death and she was noted as being a dairy women working at Henly Farm, Crewkerne. No parents are noted. James could possibly be her father or a brother.??? > > Sarah gave birth in 1863 to Albert Edward Gibbons at Cold Harbour, Sherbourne, Dorset. Although the birth entry in the Parish Register transcripts seems to read that he was born to Sarah & George Gibbons, on applying for his birth certificate it definitely gives the name of his mother as Sarah George Gibbons. > > He came to Australia as Albert Edward COLES and went by the Coles' surname, although in his "adoptive father's" will (i.e. William Simon Coles' will), he was named as Gibbons, which gave us the clue to finding his birth. It would seem that William Coles and his wife Rebecca, nee Glyde, must have "adopted" him prior to them leaving England and coming to Aust. in 1875. > > We wonder if Sarah could possibly have been connected to either the Coles or Glyde families? Just a thought! > > If there is anyone out there who is researching GIBBONS, COLES or GLYDE families in Dorset, I would appreciate hearing from you. > > T.I.A > Min > Qld. Australia > > ______________________________

Hi Researchers It has been pointed out to me that we have listers all over the world, (not the moon, yet.). and if wish to visit Bisley, where is it. Well, it is in England. Is is a little village in Gloucestershire approx 5 mile from Stroud. Take the A419 from Stroud to Cirencester when you come to the village of Chalford turn left into the village and follow the signs for Bisley. I must warn you the road is narrow, in places and in the village they are very narrow. Good hunting Alf

Hello Carol This is some of your family in 1881 Dwelling: No 2 Fore Street Census Place: Saltash, Cornwall, England Source: FHL Film 1341548 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2282 Folio 84 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary SHIRLEY M 28 F Saltash, Cornwall, England Rel: Wife (Head) Occ: Wife Of Corporal Royal Artillery Lucy SHIRLEY 5 F Saltash, Cornwall, England Rel: Daughter Occ: Scholar Henry James SHIRLEY 1 M Sandown, Isle of Wight Rel: Son Ethel Mary SHIRLEY 8 m F Saltash, Cornwall, England Rel: Daughter James GREET U 44 M Tideford St Germans, CON Rel: Boarder Occ: Lime Burner There are 196 John SHIRLEYs in the 1881 index - do you have any idea of his age or birthplace to try to narrow down the search? Anne Alan LLoyd wrote: > > Dear List, > Before I unsubscribe for a short while could SKS please see if they can find a John Walter SHIRLEY on the 1851- 1861- 1871 - 1881or even 1891 (sorry for so many) census's also his wife Mary SHIRLEY nee GLANVILLE/HOSKING on the 1871 - 1881 census's for me? > They are my brickwall and my GGrandparents. > Mary was born in Saltash, CON in ?1852 but both of them had children baptised on the I.O.W. by the names of:- > Henry James SHIRLEY born 25th April 1879 - Sandown, I.O.W. > Lucy SHIRLEY was thought to have been born at Saltash in 1876. > But the info below alters that somewhat, can anyone help me find out more info on this extremly elusive family? > > BAPTISMS: children of John Walter + Mary SHIRLEY (fathers occ: Corporal Royal Artillery) abode - Lower Sandown, I.O.W. > > Lucy .. 21 June 1878 Sandown. > Henry James .. 24 Oct 1879 Sandown. > > Their other 5 children were born in Saltash, CON. > > The death registration for Mary Shirley - The index details are - 1895 June Qtr, St Germans, 5c 34, age 41 > > Thank you for your time, patience, and generous help. > Kind Regards, > Carol Lloyd nee SHIRLEY > alloy@lloydy37.fsnet.co.uk > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list send the command "unsubscribe" to: > WESSEX-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > WESSEX-PLUS-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.)

Hi CLISSOLDS Researchers. If any one are looking for CLISSOLDS, go to Bisley Church Yard, No need to make an appointment, just turn up, it is full of them. Alf.

Hi Researchers. I am interested in finding out who are researching names in and around my home area of Berkeley/ Stone, and surrounding areas. As you may have noticed I have been stumbling around the graves (not falling into them, yet.) Looking for surnames some I found others, not. If you have a name send it to me and leave the rest to me, you may never know there may be other's looking for the same name. It has happened two day ago with a Cornock surname, two researchers unaware of each other they are now in contact with each other. The other areas are Stinchombe, North Nibley, Tortworth,Charfield,Cromhall,Rockhampton,Hill. By doing this we are recording the M.I. for ever and helping others. regards Alf Beard.

Hi Debbie It's a village in rural North Yorkshire: if you have a look at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ input the name and click on UK Place you should be able to see it! Also if you click on the Old Maps tag-line at the bottom of this page and following the links in your IE to Birdsall, Yorkshire you can see a map for 1855 and will be able to relate the features of then and now. If you go to the following URL you will find subscription details for at least 2 mailing lists which have North Yorkshire interests: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html Regards Paul Portland On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:57:30 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Everyone: > >I am doing a favor for a friend who is trying to locate a town in England called Birdsall. I have done very little research in England and was not sure how to go about locating this town. > >Any advice appreciated. > >Debbie > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== >Looking for a 19th century map in your area of interested? The try: >http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldSite/index.htm or old Gloucs maps >http://www.smilodon.uklinux.net/maps/GLS/index.html > >

Am interested in finding out about Sarah George GIBBONS who died in March quarter of 1871, aged 35, registered at Chard. A James Gibbons gave the information at her death and she was noted as being a dairy women working at Henly Farm, Crewkerne. No parents are noted. James could possibly be her father or a brother.??? Sarah gave birth in 1863 to Albert Edward Gibbons at Cold Harbour, Sherbourne, Dorset. Although the birth entry in the Parish Register transcripts seems to read that he was born to Sarah & George Gibbons, on applying for his birth certificate it definitely gives the name of his mother as Sarah George Gibbons. He came to Australia as Albert Edward COLES and went by the Coles' surname, although in his "adoptive father's" will (i.e. William Simon Coles' will), he was named as Gibbons, which gave us the clue to finding his birth. It would seem that William Coles and his wife Rebecca, nee Glyde, must have "adopted" him prior to them leaving England and coming to Aust. in 1875. We wonder if Sarah could possibly have been connected to either the Coles or Glyde families? Just a thought! If there is anyone out there who is researching GIBBONS, COLES or GLYDE families in Dorset, I would appreciate hearing from you. T.I.A Min Qld. Australia

Greetings all, Forgive me if you have seen this before, but I have posted the same message on other lists. I am researching the Bryant and Briant families of Woodgreen, Frogham, Burgate, Godshill (the mainland one) and the Fordingbridge area. My line of Bryants were once Briants but someone ( my g. g. grandfather I think) changed the spelling. I am also chasing anyone with an interest in the Mist family. There are a lot of them and my great grandmother was one. If you are interested in one of these families (or better still are a member of one) please drop me a line. Regards, Ian (on yet another fantastic Queensland morning) -- +----------------------------------------+ Ian Bryant Tel: (07)46398350 Fax: (07)46394523 E-mail: Ian .Bryant@env.qld.gov.au

Dear List, Before I unsubscribe for a short while could SKS please see if they can find a John Walter SHIRLEY on the 1851- 1861- 1871 - 1881or even 1891 (sorry for so many) census's also his wife Mary SHIRLEY nee GLANVILLE/HOSKING on the 1871 - 1881 census's for me? They are my brickwall and my GGrandparents. Mary was born in Saltash, CON in ?1852 but both of them had children baptised on the I.O.W. by the names of:- Henry James SHIRLEY born 25th April 1879 - Sandown, I.O.W. Lucy SHIRLEY was thought to have been born at Saltash in 1876. But the info below alters that somewhat, can anyone help me find out more info on this extremly elusive family? BAPTISMS: children of John Walter + Mary SHIRLEY (fathers occ: Corporal Royal Artillery) abode - Lower Sandown, I.O.W. Lucy .. 21 June 1878 Sandown. Henry James .. 24 Oct 1879 Sandown. Their other 5 children were born in Saltash, CON. The death registration for Mary Shirley - The index details are - 1895 June Qtr, St Germans, 5c 34, age 41 Thank you for your time, patience, and generous help. Kind Regards, Carol Lloyd nee SHIRLEY alloy@lloydy37.fsnet.co.uk

On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:23:23 -0000, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Just discovered that it may be possible that my Bridles of Potterne may have >come from Dorset. In a will of 1671 Motcombe is mentioned for a Francis >Bridle. Looked on IGI for Francis and East Stower comes up but in 1700's. >This is also close to Motcombe. >So is there anyone out there researching Bridles or able to do a look up at >East Stower parish records pre 1700. > >Many thanks > >Sarah Sarah >From the Dorset County Record Office Guide to the Location of Parish Registers for Dorset I have found the following which may be of help: Motcombe D 1675 Christening 1675-1951 PE/MOT (formerly part of Gillingham) Marriages 1676-1949 Burials 1676-1924 Banns 1754-1812, 1823-1925 Transcript Marriages 1676-1837 Burials 1716-1789 *lx Christening and Burials 1813-1837 I would, therefore, suggest that Gillingham might be your best bet? If you haven't already done so you might like to consider joining Dorset List: DORSET-L-request@rootsweb.com where you should find much local knowledge. You might also consider having a look at the Dorset Exchange page at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5973/dorset.htm where I believe someone is sometimes able to do look-ups as long as they are brief. Researchers in Dorset should be aware that most of the Bishop's Transcripts for Dorset went up in flames in the great fire at Blandford Forum in 1732, hence the LDS has few records for Dorset before this date: in addition the LDS has not been allowed to film many Dorset Parish Registers and as a result, with a few exceptions, we only have the BTs. Dorset Record Office has most of the PRs though, although, in view of errors and omissions, it is normally best to consult both, if possible! In vew of the fact that the East Stour (Stower) entries are mainly early Patron Submissions by members of the LDS Church: in view of the reputation of these records I should be inclined to treat them with "great care" and treat them as extremely doubtful until proven otherwise! Other list members may like to comment on their experiences with these records. However, having said that controlled extractions of Bishop's Transcripts and Parish Registers are normally well worth following up in the appropriate registers. The clue lies in the batch numbering of controlled extractions!! Patron submissions normally only have a film reference. Regards Paul Portland

The records for Barton Regis should be kept at the Bristol Record Office and if applying for any birth, marriage, death certificates you should get in touch with Bristol Registry Office at Quackers Friars Bristol.

Hi All, Just discovered that it may be possible that my Bridles of Potterne may have come from Dorset. In a will of 1671 Motcombe is mentioned for a Francis Bridle. Looked on IGI for Francis and East Stower comes up but in 1700's. This is also close to Motcombe. So is there anyone out there researching Bridles or able to do a look up at East Stower parish records pre 1700. Many thanks Sarah

Hi, I couldn't find my relative in 1881 census. Later found he was with the Military, serving in India at the time. So my belief is that those serving overseas are not included in the Census. Happy to hear to the contrary though. Anyone? regards, Sheila in Melbourne. > Hi Listers, > > In conjunction with the question as to how sailors at sea were handled on the > census, I would be interested in knowing the same information regarding those > who served in the military. Did the military conduct its own census and publish > it separately? If so, where would I be able to find that information? > > Thanks, > Mary Lu in California > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > If your relative was a mariner why not have a look at: > http://www.mariners-l.freeserve.co.uk/ >

I am trying to find my gr.gr.grandfather George STONE,a saddler, in 1851.He was born in 1829 in Mere, Wilts, so would be 22 in 1851. He married in Mere in 1853 and lived there until his death in 1908 except for a short time in 1860s when he lived in Gillingham,Dorset. He is not on the 1851 census for Mere,East or West Knowle,Monckton Deverill, Kingston Deverill, or Maiden Bradley. I believe he may have been off apprenticing as a saddler or harness maker. Could someone please check the 1851 census for Bourton and Gillingham to see if he is there.He may have been with a Thomas Landerwick, saddler, in Bourton. There were STONEs in both of these places. Thanks. Pat, from Canada _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi Listers New subscriber posting surnames:- Looking for father of Charles Bryant. CHarles owned 3 fresh fish shops in North End and surrounding areas circa late 1890's onwards. Trying to find his parents. Any information appreciated. Elsie Tallack ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie