Thanks to all who replied to my question re Royal Norfolk Regiment. regards Tessa

Hello Tessa, Try the link below. I hope you find what you are looking for. http://regiments.org/milhist/uk/inf/009RNorf.htm Kind regards, Debbie Fenemore Wiltshire, UK -----Original Message----- From: Tessa Kirk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 November 2002 18:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [WSX] Military Hello all Can anyone help me find information on the Royal Norfolk Regiment (WW2) Regards Tessa ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== Somerset genealogy: http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/SOMcontents.html http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/somhome.htm --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002

Hello all Can anyone help me find information on the Royal Norfolk Regiment (WW2) Regards Tessa

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Hello all does anyone need any look ups done from the following:- We are happy to offer a free look up service from the records stated below but within a sensible time frame (ideally 5 years). We do ask that you tell us what resources you have already checked and would expect you to have already tried the readily accessible IGI, FreeBMD/GRO Index, 1881 &1901 census as well (of course!!)as the Parish Register pages on our website. If you are at all unsure, please feel free to contact us - we will help if we can, particularly if you are disabled, based overseas or new to this wonderful hobby. Parish Registers on Fiche (C = Christenings; M = Marriages; B = Burials) BISHOPSTOKE (CMB 1658 - 1781; CM 1700 - 1781; CB 1782 - 1812; B 1813 - 1906) BISHOPS WALTHAM Bishops Waltham (C 1612 - 1905; M 1612-1925; B 1612-1904) CROFTON (C 1871 - 1929; M 1871 - 1927; B 1838 - 1940) CURDRIDGE ( C 1835 - 1946; M 1838 - 1962; B 1835 - 1934) DURLEY (CMB 1561 - 1731; C 1813 - 1909; M 1813 - 1948; B 1813 - 1914) FAREHAM Holy Trinity ( C 1836-1914 M 1847-1915 B 1836-1896) St Peter & Pauls (B 1813-1867) FARLINGTON St Andrews Church ( CMB 1754-1812 C1813-1930 M 1813-1933 B 1813-1906) GOSPORT Alverstoke (C 1738 - 1911; M 1711-1919; B 1714-1975) Gosport Methodist Circuit (C 1878 - 1904) Holy Trinity (C 1708 - 1925; M 1708-1929; B 1708-1902) St. John's Forton (C 1840 - 1915; M 1841-1917; B 1841-1879) St. Matthew's (C 1846 - 1927; M 1846-1928) St. Thomas Elson (C 1845 - 1912; M 1846-1890; B 1846-1927) Anns Hill Cemetery (B 1855 - 1953) - * We have personally indexed this from 1855-1943 so far) St. Lukes, Forton (C 1900 - 1913) Christ Church (C 1881 - 1939; M 1913-1933) HAVANT St Faiths (B 1813-1895) PORTSEA/PORTSMOUTH/SOUTHSEA All Saint's (C 1828 - 1913; M 1839-1921) Holy Trinity (C 1841 - 1906; M 1845-1905) Royal Garrison Church (B 1741 - 1863) St Agatha, Landport (C 1892 -1927 M 1898 - 1925) St. Bartholomews (C 1864- 1918; M 1865 - 1907) St. George's (C 1876 - 1906; M 1876-1913) St. James (C 1844 - 1922; M 1845-1915; B 1845-1936) St. John's (C 1789 - 1951; M 1865-1922) St Judes (C 1851 - 1903 M 1851- 1904) St. Luke (C 1864 - 1909, M 1864 - 1905) St Mark (C 1874 - 1904; M 1875 - 1902) St. Mary's (C 1800 - 1901; B 1813-1900) St. Matthew (C 1899 1905, M 1904-1907) St Michael (C 1872 - 1904 M 1882 - 1938) St. Peter (C 1788 - 1794, 1883 - 1906, M 1883 - 1908) St.Simon (C 1868 - 1922; M 1868 - 1910) St Thomas, (C 1873 -1925 M 1877 - 1900 B 1813 - 1855) SARISBURY (C 1836 - 1979; M 1852-1916; B 1836-1917) WARNFORD (C 1541 - 1996; M 1541-1978; B 1541-1997) WICKHAM (C 1813 - 1950, M 1813 - 1932, B 1813 - 1897) WIDLEY (C 1813 - 1917 M 1754 - 1934 B 1813 - 1946) WYMERING & WIDLEY CMB 1738 - 1812 CB 1791 - 1812 WYMERING C 1812 - 1910, M 1755 - 1905, B 1813 - 1897 Take care, Linda & Tony

Hello all Despite all of the reassurances forthcoming yesterday seemingly from people at the SoG and FFHS amongst others , we still have serious doubts about this site. As we stated a couple of days ago, we have been in touch directly with the Family Record Centre (which is a place and not an organisation) jointly operated by the Public Record Office and the Office for National Statistics (the latter amongst other things maintain the GRO index). Having spoken again to the Management at the Family Record Centre this morning, the official stance is that they know nothing about the site, the digitisation or publication of the GRO index. They are "investigating" and are "concerned" - which is a direct quote from the FRC on the 28 November. The FRC have not authorised the digitisation of the index and indeed are not aware of the technology to do so - there is apparently a cd version of the index available for purchase (but not advertised) and it is probably the case that something has been created from that. The issues over the validity or security of the web site are not concerns for the FRC but whilst many are saying that Title Research are a reputable company (which we are sure they are), the domain name www.1837online.com is registered to a separate company Trace 2 Ltd which operates from the same building as Title Research and has a contact email of a Director of Title Research. Regarding the "100 year rule" over publication of the index, this is not laid down in law in the same way as the census data is but is a rule enforced by ONS. Originally, ONS did not permit publication of the GRO index by persons or organisations who may have bought the fiche - it was subject to copyright and sold on the usual basis of being for "research and private study" - which permits commercial genealogy firms to use (but not reproduce) the index. Earlier this year, ONS relaxed their rules and permitted the publication of the index but only in respect of entries over 100 years old. The original rules still apply to later data. Our money stays firmly in our pocket. Tony & Linda

Hi listers The next meeting of the Computer Group of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will be held next Monday 2 December 2002 at Oxford University Computing Services, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford. This is located just to the north of St Giles. Doors open at 7.15 pm for coffee, with the presentation starting at around 7.30pm. The evening will be hosted by our society webmaster and Computer Group panel member Malcolm Austen, who will be talking about "Organising your web browsing". I assume that this will be a demonstration of the effective use of Microsoft Internet Explorer, with possibly a look at one or two lesser-known browsers as well. Thoughtful use of your web browser can make all the difference in your effective use of the internet, so this should be a valuable tutorial. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions to get there, please see the map linked to the society's website at :- www.ofhs.org.uk For a list of future meetings of the OFHS see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html Any queries, please contact me off-list. Season's greetings. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer and Minutes Secretary Oxfordshire Family History Society E-mail : [email protected] Website : www.ofhs.org.uk

Hi List, Does anyone know if Avon Street, Bath has changed since about 1864? The house I am interested in is no. 78 Avon Street. Also does anyone know if there is a surname index for the 1861 census for bath. regards Valerie

Hi List, Could anyone tell me if Chapel Court, Bath, mentioned in the 1851 census, still existed in the 1861 and 1871 censuses? Also does anyone know the population of Bath around 1961 as I may do a blanket search for Caroline EDDY and wonder how long it would take. I am unable to go to Bath or London to look at the census, but can order the film at the mormon church. regards Valerie

The latest update to m Maritime Website is Part 5 of the index to O'Byrne's Royal Navy Biography covering surnames Q to T. A to P have already appeared. The index gives year of birth, date of marriage, name of spouse, year of enlistment and year of promotion to current or most recent rank (as at 1849). The index is available via http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/Site.html Bob Sanders Cardiff UK

Hi Andy, To answer your question about where this leaves the FreeBMD project - it leaves us exactly where we were before this scheme was announced! The FreeBMD project offers to do the searching for you, and it is FREE. Ok it is not complete yet, but if everyone helped out, it soon would be! So what would you rather do, pay your money and laboriously search those horrible indexes, or let FreeBMD search for you for free :-) Come on everyone, transcribe a page each and get this project completed, then we can all set to work on FreeCens and get those online too :-) Sheelagh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Mawer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: [WSX] 1837 online > Hi All, > Many thanks to Debs Fenemore for bringing this site to our attention. The work that this site will save seems to be immense. It does bring to mind two questions. > 1. What will become of all the work that the hard working volunteers at the free BMD have done, and. > 2. If it is ok for this to all be published, why is it law for the census to have a 100yr clause attached to it? surely as much information can be gleaned from this as any census can give. What can be more intrusive than ones own birth, marriage and death? > I personally have no problem anybody seeing where I lived or for that matter whom with. > This to me just make a mockery of a law that needs updating. Why can the Americans have their census made public so much earlier than ours? > In this era of microsecond internet, so much information can be accessed such as the electoral roll, Phone numbers, addresses etc. > While I appreciate there are some who want their private lives private, the reality is that this is unlikely and only to get less as time and the internet progress. > Please forgive if you consider this to be too heavy for this forum. > > Best wishes > Andy > > Penton Mewsey, Hants. > Researching; > Lewington, Warwick, Bradbury, Briant, in Hants > Lewington in Wilts > Tyrell, Cherry and Churchill in Bucks. > Mawer in Durham/yorksGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Introduction to UK genealogy > http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/Riindex.asp >

Hi All, I have an index for a George HARPER from FreeBMD: 1852 Mar Qtr Swindon Vol 5a Page 18 It notes that Swindon district was not in use at that time (Should have been Highworth). Can SKS please check this one for me if they have a few spare moments next time they are searching the records? Cheers, Mark Feodoroff Brisbane, Australia

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:27:27 +1030, "David Cheek" <[email protected]> wrote: >The following have been transcribed: > >Baptisms Date Range: 1537 - 1890 No Events: 11,219 Further to David's messages I've been advised that a link in the Baptism Index for the names T - Y disappeared somewhere unmentionable in the back of beyond - I've now corrected this problem ;-) Apologies Paul 50.33.50N 02.26.70W

Hi Folks just to update you all..... We telephoned the Family Records Centre today in our capacity as List Owners of our 2 Hampshire Lists as we felt that an official and definitive reply was essential to clarify the situation and to protect all of us from a potential problem. We received a call back from a Senior Manager who had no knowledge of the site - and so this is certainly not an official arrangement. He was going to speak to GRO Southport and will get back to us. Having already seen a message on another list that GRO at Southport know nothing about 1837online either and were referring to their Management,it would seem to confirm the illegitimate nature of the site. FRC Management have a concern that IF the data is available as stated,it may have been copied without licence. So far,FRC/PRO have granted a licence to FreeBMD to put the GRO index online on the proviso that there was no charge for access and in addition a number of Family History Societies have uploaded much smaller, local segments of the index. Some listers have mentioned a 100 year rule - just to be clear, this does not apply to the GRO index which is already in the public domain to the current date. FreeBMD as we understand it made a voluntary committment to limit the online data to 1900 so as to avoid problems with living people and also in view of the size of the job in hand. Once we get a further briefing from our contact at the FRC, we will mail again but in the meantime, our cash is staying where it is! Take care Linda & Tony

I am trying to find the origins of the PENFORD family who were farmers/butchers in Kingsclere, Hants in the early to late 1800s. John and Sarah Penford who were having children at Harridens Farm, Kingsclere between 1816 and 1831. John and his forebears do not seem to have been born in Kingsclere, nor did the marriage take place there. Sarah is recorded in Kingsclere in 1851 Census age 61 born Swallowpit (Swallowfield?), Berks. John presumably died before 1851 but is not buried in Kingsclere. And where did Thomas Penford marry Mary Ann X?. They appear in the baptism register for St. Paul, Ashford Hill only in 1846 for the baptism of son William (bapt. 4 Oct 1846). Thomas is recorded as a Farmer but not where. I suspect he is the eldest son of John and Sarah, bapt. at St. Mary Kingsclere on 8 Sep 1816 and probably went home to have his first child baptised in the local church. Any information on this family will be welcomed. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hello I am looking for information on Herbert Gillingham, known to have lived in Uplyme around 1897 with his wife Frances and children: George, Amelia, Fred, Joe, Ellen, Ned. Regards Eric Gillingham

Can anyone tell me anything about Tuckers of BRIDPORT (uk) being in TUCKENHAY, DEVONat the early to mid 1800s. The were engaged in rope, twine, flax, sailcloth, etc. manufacture in Bridport. A document I have read makes mention of the family moving to Tuckenhay for a while. The head of the family was Richard Tucker b Bridport 1803. If anyone has a directory could they see if there were any such businesses in Tuckenhay and under what name they traded. Thank you very much. Any information about Bridport Tuckers gratefully received.

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Andy Perhaps you should be having a look at the - dare I say it - hotch-potch of proposed changes in legislation regarding the registration of BMDs ? Whilst some of it, as suggested by the FFHS and most genealogists, may be long overdue, some of the changes proposed ......... well perhaps I'll leave it to you to have a look at the FFHS comments and response at: http://www.ffhs.org.uk/Societies/Liaison/Feedback.htm rather than get on my "high horse" - I doubt I'll be able to stop ;-) <snipped numerous sarcastic and cynical comments regarding the draughting of poor legislation> Paul On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:25:50 -0000, "Andy Mawer" <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi All, >Many thanks to Debs Fenemore for bringing this site to our attention. The work that this site will save seems to be immense. It does bring to mind two questions. >1. What will become of all the work that the hard working volunteers at the free BMD have done, and. >2. If it is ok for this to all be published, why is it law for the census to have a 100yr clause attached to it? surely as much information can be gleaned from this as any census can give. What can be more intrusive than ones own birth, marriage and death? >I personally have no problem anybody seeing where I lived or for that matter whom with. >This to me just make a mockery of a law that needs updating. Why can the Americans have their census made public so much earlier than ours? >In this era of microsecond internet, so much information can be accessed such as the electoral roll, Phone numbers, addresses etc. >While I appreciate there are some who want their private lives private, the reality is that this is unlikely and only to get less as time and the internet progress. >Please forgive if you consider this to be too heavy for this forum. > >Best wishes >Andy > >Penton Mewsey, Hants. >Researching; >Lewington, Warwick, Bradbury, Briant, in Hants >Lewington in Wilts >Tyrell, Cherry and Churchill in Bucks. >Mawer in Durham/yorksGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== >Introduction to UK genealogy >http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/Riindex.asp 50.33.50N 02.26.70W

On 25 Nov 2002, at 20:25, Andy Mawer wrote: > Many thanks to Debs Fenemore for bringing this site to our attention. > The work that this site will save seems to be immense. It does bring > to mind two questions. 1. What will become of all the work that the > hard working volunteers at the free BMD have done, and. 2. If it is ok > for this to all be published, why is it law for the census to have a > 100yr clause attached to it? surely as much information can be gleaned > from this as any census can give. What can be more intrusive than ones > own birth, marriage and death? I personally have no problem anybody > seeing where I lived or for that matter whom with. This to me just > make a mockery of a law that needs updating. I wonder how many family historians are unaware of the changes in just this area that the British government is proposing to introduce. As I understand it, in addition to ceasing to produce paper records of these events or of censuses, the intention is that birth, marriage and death certificates will be available only to the individuals named on them, or with their written permission, until they (the certificates) are 100 years old. This leaves me wondering: 1. How will anyone new to the hobby be able to make a start? Most of us start after our parents have died but before their 100th birthday. 2. How do you obtain the signature of the subject of a death certificate, and how can he/she be then concerned about privacy? Jim Fisher in Luton, Beds., UK. http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/geneal.htm - Fam hist pages I use CDs produced by Archive CD Books to assist fellow researchers http://www.archivecdbooks.org