Hello Richard Joint Tenants ~~~~~~~~~~ Each owns all of it or the whole. Tenants in Common ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Each is regarded as owning an individual share in the property, but that share has not positively been marked out. Tenants in Common hold property in undivided shares. A joint tenancy arises where land is conveyed to two or more persons and no words of severance are used. A tenancy in common arises when there are words of severance - so: a conveyance "....to A and B" would create a joint tenancy a conveyance "....to A and B equally" would create a tenancy in common. Should a party to a joint tenancy die his share in the property passes to the survivors, until such time as there is one person and he becomes the sole owner. (it could well be that this was not relevant when the will was written) A tenant in common may dispose of his share by will. Source: Paraphrased from "English Law" first published 1963, by Smith and Keenan The Law of Property Act 1925 would appear to be the relevant authority, but I don't think that it alters the original definition Best wishes Paul On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:57:45 +1000, Richard Prankerd <[email protected]> wrote: >List: > >I am in the process of transcribing a number of 18th century wills >(from the PRO-Online website) and have repeatedly encountered the >following statement: > >"to be divided equally between them share and share alike as Tenants >in Common and not as joint Tenants " > >Can someone please explain to me the difference between "Tenants in >Common" and "joint Tenants". This has been applied in situations >where the number of beneficiaries is anywhere from two to six. > >Many thanks >Richard >Richard J. Prankerd, PhD >Senior Lecturer Phone: INT + (613) 9903-9517 >Victorian College of Pharmacy Fax: INT + (613) 9903-9583 >(A Faculty of Monash University) email: [email protected] >381 Royal Parade >Parkville VIC 3052 >AUSTRALIA > >Researching: >PRANKERD and variants in Dorset, Somerset, Wilts, Bristol, London, >Hamps and Berks, not to mention Australia >I use Archive CD Books to help with my research >http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > >==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list send the command "unsubscribe" to: >[email protected] (if in mail mode) or >[email protected] (if in digest mode.) 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hi Richard! Joint tenants, as the phrase implies, own the whole property jointly as a single entity so that when one of the parties dies, the other owns it absolutely. In the case of tenants in common, the property is effectively divided in half so that each party can bequeath, his or her half of the property and the survivor remains with only a 50% interest. Obviously more than two persons could be involved in either case so that the fractions could be less than ½. Cheers Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Prankerd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: [WSX] Tenants in Common > List: > > I am in the process of transcribing a number of 18th century wills > (from the PRO-Online website) and have repeatedly encountered the > following statement: > > "to be divided equally between them share and share alike as Tenants > in Common and not as joint Tenants " > > Can someone please explain to me the difference between "Tenants in > Common" and "joint Tenants". This has been applied in situations > where the number of beneficiaries is anywhere from two to six. > > Many thanks > Richard > Richard J. Prankerd, PhD > Senior Lecturer Phone: INT + (613) 9903-9517 > Victorian College of Pharmacy Fax: INT + (613) 9903-9583 > (A Faculty of Monash University) email: [email protected] > 381 Royal Parade > Parkville VIC 3052 > AUSTRALIA > > Researching: > PRANKERD and variants in Dorset, Somerset, Wilts, Bristol, London, > Hamps and Berks, not to mention Australia > I use Archive CD Books to help with my research > http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list send the command "unsubscribe" to: > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > >

Hi Richard I believe you will find this applies to anything which is jointly owned, i.e. Bank Account, Mortgage, Property & etc. 1. Tenants in Common means on the death of either party the survivor automatically becomes the sole owner of the entire asset. Or if more than 2 people then the deceased share is split between the remaining parties. 2. Joint Tenants means that on the death of either party the deceased person's share can be passed on to another person , in a will for example. Hope that makes sense David

> Can someone please explain to me the difference between "Tenants in > Common" and "joint Tenants". > Richard I think the simplest difference between the tow is that joint tenats both have an interest in a property which ceases when the person dies, whereas with tenants in common they again have an interest in the property but this interest can be passed on to somebody else on their death Eddie

Hi Fellow Listers, Am I going potty in my old age, or was there mention made on this list a few months ago, with regard to a collection of Marriage Bonds for Wiltshire, on CD I think, which also encompassed a couple of other neighbouring counties, if so, could some kind soul give me details. Regards, Shirl in sunny Aus.

David - > I am a new member as of today and am researching in Dorset (so far) MOORES and FARTHING both in Bourton. You might be interested to get in touch with Vivienne Fitch, at [email protected] , who's a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies www.one-name.org and is carrying out a study of all occurrences of FARTHING. -- Wendy Regional Representative for the Guild of One-Name Studies www.one-name.org for OXF & BKM One-name study of PULKER www.cvd.co.uk/pulker.htm

Hi List I am a new member as of today and am researching in Dorset (so far) MOORES and FARTHING both in Bourton. I have found the families in the 1881 and 1891 census but could do with some help with the 1841/1851. Does anyone have access to either of these census ? I am particularly interested in George Moores baptised 13 Feb 1814 and his wife Hannah or Anna (neé Farthing) baptised 20 Mar 1815. According to the Vital Recs they appear to have lots of children with overlapping baptism dates. In the 1881/91 census, Bourton appears as a part of the district of Mere in Wiltshire. Also does anyone know where I may purchase the fiche of the 1841/51/61 census for the area. Any help much appreciated. David Ashmore

Sorry, John, I still can't get whatever it is you're sending me. It is opening as a message consisting of two letters - a "y" with an umlaut and a p. I had this once before, years ago, but can't remember how it was resolved. Please try again!!!!! Colin Hunt.

Hi everyone, I am new to the list and so I hope someone can help me find my ancestor Tom RUGMAN, born 1853 who is on the 1881 census age 28, born Thornbury,Glos. If anyone has access to the 1861/1871 censuses, could you please see if he is there with his family? oN THE 1881 census he is married with children, his wife is Fanny??? born Littleton Glos. Any information will be much appreciated Thanks Ann

If any look ups are needed from the PARISH REGISTER fiche we have at home.....see www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy and click "resources" for a full list. Sorry we cannot do any other parishes or non parish register look ups at present. Take care Linda & Tony

Hello Listers, To all those who haven't received any mail from other mailing lists, Rootsweb have the following message on their Help page, that a lot of Mailing lists are down at the moment. """Lists2: 2003-03-26 We are experiencing system difficulties with lists2. We do not expect to lose any data, including mail. Est. downtime: 2 day(s)""" Must be a bit of trouble as it is already up to four days. Cheers Ann

Hi all Just posting my interests: Berkshire: HUSE, Richard b 1777 Bray and area BROWN, Ann b 17?? to join the HUSE list send subscribe to: [email protected] Devon: TANNER, Ernest James, b abt 1848 Torquay to join the TANNER list send subscribe to: [email protected] Somerset and Bristol: BLANNIN, Henry BROOKS, John, Badgeworth BRINE, William DYER, John, Banwell GOLDSTONE, Sarah, Wrington GUY, Rebecca, Banwell HORT, Samuel, Wrington LAMBOURNE, John Burrington PACKER, Sarah TAYLOR, Sarah, Badgeworth WRIGHT, Richard WALLIS, Mary, Wrington WIDLAKE. John, Wrington to join the BLANNIN list send subscribe to: [email protected] to join the GOLDSTONE list send subscribe to: [email protected] to join the HORT list send subscribe to: [email protected] Please contact me if you are connected. Thank you Eve

Hi All Reposting my interests. All from Wiltshire. BOULTON, Elizabeth b 1756 Brinkworth BUCKINGHAM, Elizabeth b.1672 Little Bedwyn CASWELL, Richard b 1761 Brinkworth CHAMBERS, Mary b abt 1763 Brinkworth CHOULES, Elisabeth b. 1641 KEMBLE, Shadrack b 1728 KING, Sarah b abt 1730 MACKLIN, John b 1859 Manningford Bruce MARSH, Dorothy, b 1656 Bedwyn PIKE, Mary b. abt 1698 Froxfield PREDDY/PRIDDY, Richard b 1752 Brinkworth WENTWORTH, Stephen b 1665 Little Bedwyn WHITE, Martha b 1795 Marlborough WHITE, Sarah b.1779 Please contact if you have a connection. Thanks Eve To subscribe to Macklin list send Subscribe to: [email protected]

Hi everyone, The following new Parish Transcripts have now been added to my site at :- http://genealogy.colinrayner.org.uk *** Ashcott Burials 1813-1819 *** Transcripts provided by Annette Lock. Enjoy :-)) Colin. Bristol, England http://genealogy.colinrayner.org.uk - Transcripts for Meare, Glastonbury, Godney, Burtle, Edington, Shapwick, Ashcott. Researching :- VOWLES, SIMMONDS (various spellings), BAKER, MARSH, RAWLES, COX, GIBLETT, MORGAN, READ, EDWARDS, ROOD - Somerset (Meare, Wedmore, Glastonbury, Burtle etc) RAYNER, JOLLIFFE, ADDY, HEPWORTH, FEATHERSTONE, MORRILL, CLIFFE - Yorkshire (Knottingley, Brotherton etc)

Hi I am looking for anyone who has information on the AKERS family of Swindon, Wilts that are identified in the 1901 census as AKERS, Charles b 1859 Henley, Oxon AKERS, Edith b 1874 Henley Oxon AKERS, Marian b 1885 Cricklade Wilts AKERS, Edith b 1896 Swindon Wilts AKERS, Charles b 1900 Swindon Wilts Any help would be appreciated. Haydn CRACKNELL in Alberta Canada

ABSOLOM Ruth b1724 Hale, Ham BAILEY 1822 - 1880 Portsea BAKER 1880 - 1930 Southampton BIDDLECOMBE George 1855 Redlynch. Wilt BREWER 1822 Fordingbridge, Ham BUSH 1700 1865 Fordingbridge, Ham CARTER Mary 1893 Winchester, Ham CHALK Jacob Downton, Wilt CLARKE Jane 1791 Fordingbridge, Ham CULLEY/CULLY Southampton Ham DE LABERTAUCHE Ruth b 1797 Bloomsbury Living at Newington between 1841 to 1851 then 1852 to 1871 Southampton DEACON Fordingbridge, Blissford, Ham DYMOTT - TILLY Fordingbridge, Ham EASTMAN Sarah & INGS 1847 Southampton, Ham EFFENY - WORT , Fordingbridge, Ham FERENTZ Portswood, Ham & Fort at Maidam, Afghanistan FLOWER Elizabeth 1815 Bishop's Waltham FREAK All Hampshire FRY Godshill, Boldrewood, Bramshaw, Ham GOLDING James & FREAK Maude Lilian 1898 Southampton, Ham GOULD Caroline & WORT George Blissford, Ham HARRIS & LEGGE All North Stoneham, Ham INGS All Hampshire, Wiltshire JEFFERIES Elizabeth 1762 Godshill, Fordingbridge, Ham KENCHINGTON Hyde, Fordingbridge, Ham KING Salisbury LEGGE North Stoneham MARLOW & WATTS Gorley, Ham MIST Godshill 1839 Oakley Southampton, Ham PARKMAN Southampton, Ham PARNELL 1843 - 1881 I of W Botley, South Stoneham, Andover, Ham PARRINGTON & REW/WREN 1797 Chilworth, Michelmarsh, Ham POULTON Elizabeth, Joan, Norman, Will, Southampton, Ham SAWYER Phoebe Elizabeth 1829 Timsbury & WORT SCOVEL 1830 - 1850 Downton,Wilt SILLENCE Timbury, Ham STOCKWELL All Hampshire THORNE North Stoneham, Ham TILLY Joseph DYMOTT Mary 1780 Ham TOWNSEND Charles, Frederick 1875 Southampton, Ham VIDLER Elizabeth 1791 Newton Valance, Ham WATTS Fordingbridge, Ham WITT Fordingbridge, Ham WORT All Hampshire WREN Swathling, North Stoneham, Ham Just send the command "subscribe" to [email protected] mailing list [email protected] mailing list

Have received very few messages from this newsgroup in the last few days. Is there a problem ?? Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: [WSX] Test Message > Hi All > Sorry for sending this to the list have problems with a couple of > lists that i subscribe to don't seem to be getting > mail form the Stafford list and i am trying to eliminate > > > > > ==== WESSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Looking for a modern UK map site - try these......... > http://uk8.multimap.com/map/places.cgi http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ > http://www.ordsvy.gov.uk/getamap/getamap_index.htm > > >

Simon, I reckon it's Number 6 Little Canterbury Place, Lambeth Walk. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ suggests there are currently four Lambeth Walks: Clacton on Sea, Liverpool, London, and Stamford in Lincolnshire. There is certainly a Charlton Musgrave in Somerset. If you try Multimap http://www.multimap.com/ you can find Charlton M's location easily. If you have a scan of a hard to read document and you have a picture editing program, (I use paintshop pro) you can often enhance the image's readability. I scan small portions of the text in colour, then convert the image to greyscale. I then convert the image to a negative so the writing is white on black. Then if you play with the contrast and brightness I've found that a good deal of obscure text becomes decipherable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Fisher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: [WSX] Can someone help please? : I have just received the marriage certificate of my GG Grandfather : John White who married Elizabeth Rixton at Wincanton in Nov 1841. : : 1). The cert is not very clear, I wonder if SKS would know the : exact addresses of where they lived at time of marriage. : : Looks like John lived at ??? Little Canterbury Place, Lambeth Walk : Is there a Lambeth Walk in Somerset? : (the only one I know is in Lambeth, Surrey) : : Looks like Elizabeth lived at Charlton?? Musgrove?? : (haven't a clue what this says!) : : Any ideas? (please look at the cert) : : http://www.sjfisher.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/John_White_Marriage.htm : : Thankyou. : : 2). Is there an 1841 name index for Somerset? : As John WHITE married in Nov 1841, I was hoping to find him : still living with his father (George WHITE) in the census. : : Appreciate any little help, thanks. : : Regards - Simon : : ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 17/03/2003

Hi All, Could any one help with the COOPER family of Windsor, Berkshire. I'm looking for a Alfred Cooper born abt 1843/4 at Winsor. Many thanks Sarah

Hi All Sorry for sending this to the list have problems with a couple of lists that i subscribe to don't seem to be getting mail form the Stafford list and i am trying to eliminate