Since we are discussing not agreeing tonight, I do not agree with (1) below. When I put a woman's last name in parenthesis, it means it was her last name before the marriage under discussion. Say Alice Jones, d. Ken Jones, marries Bob Smith, he dies, she marries Sam Brown. I name her Alice (Jones) (Smith) in the Brown marriage record. If I do not know her father's name, I call her Alice (Unknown) (Smith). This keeps the trail record so I know who I am talking about. I am following this guideline in my current project of digitizing the Amherst MA VRs. Carl Hommel -----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Novak Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:11 PM To: wells@rootsweb.com Subject: [WELLS] Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! - - As ALL professional genealogists do, we document our sources. - - 1.) NEVER ever put a woman's last name in parentheses meaning its her maiden name because it may be the last name of a previous husband. - - Until you have a BIRTH RECORD or MARRIAGE RECORD that shows the names of her father and mother, you do NOT know that is her maiden name. - - 2.) NEVER ever accept anything on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com as the REAL DEAL! If they list the documentation, "Sources", then yes. If not, its just a guideline for you to find your OWN documentation. - - 3.) The capital letters I use are for emphasis on the words I want you to pay attention to. - I'm NOT yelling. ****** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carl Hommel said: "When I put a woman's last name in parenthesis, it means it was her last name before the marriage under discussion. Say Alice Jones, d. Ken Jones, marries Bob Smith, he dies, she marries Sam Brown. I name her Alice (Jones) (Smith) in the Brown marriage record. If I do not know her father's name, I call her Alice (Unknown) (Smith)." This is exactly what I do, too, and it keeps the record straight. Elizabeth Engle

I agree to disagree with that. When you add parenthesis to names, I have to go in and take them out. The software I'm using (Family Tree Maker) makes it super easy to track marriages without having to corrupt the data. As a professional programmer and database analyst, the rule is never pollute the data that is being stored, especially historical or archival data. The more important the information, the more critical it is to *preserve* it's integrity. But that's just my opinion... :) -Mike Wells On Mar 11, 2012 5:33 PM, "Carl Hommel" <chommel6@comcast.net> wrote: > Since we are discussing not agreeing tonight, I do not agree with (1) > below. > When I put a woman's last name in parenthesis, it means it was her last > name > before the marriage under discussion. Say Alice Jones, d. Ken Jones, > marries > Bob Smith, he dies, she marries Sam Brown. I name her Alice (Jones) (Smith) > in the Brown marriage record. If I do not know her father's name, I call > her > Alice (Unknown) (Smith). This keeps the trail record so I know who I am > talking about. > I am following this guideline in my current project of digitizing the > Amherst MA VRs. > Carl Hommel > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosemarie Novak > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:11 PM > To: wells@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WELLS] Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! > > > Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! - - > As ALL professional genealogists do, we document our sources. - - > 1.) NEVER ever put a woman's last name in parentheses meaning its her > maiden > name because it may be the last name of a previous husband. - - Until you > have a BIRTH RECORD or MARRIAGE RECORD that shows the names of her father > and mother, you do NOT know that is her maiden name. > - - > 2.) NEVER ever accept anything on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com as the REAL > DEAL! > If they list the documentation, "Sources", then yes. If not, its just a > guideline for you to find your OWN documentation. > - - > 3.) The capital letters I use are for emphasis on the words I want you to > pay attention to. - I'm NOT yelling. > > > > ****** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I believe it is correct to use the maiden name not a former spouse's name. I add other spouse names into my note field and link her to her other husband(s) in my genealogical program. Thus if you do not know the maiden name leave blank. For anyone doing otherwise I think they should check and see what professional genealogist say is proper, otherwise all we do in confuse others further down the road. Jean Leeper grannyroots@iowatelecom.net "Watch What You Say or Do, You Might Sell Your Parrot To The Town Gossip and If You Don't Have A Parrot Someone Above May Be Watching You" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanlee Cedar Creek Cemetery http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanlee/cedarcreekcemetery.htm Salem Friends Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ialqm/SalemSouthCemetery.html Lewelling Quaker Museum http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ialqm/index.htm On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Carl Hommel wrote: > Since we are discussing not agreeing tonight, I do not agree with (1) below. > When I put a woman's last name in parenthesis, it means it was her last name > before the marriage under discussion. Say Alice Jones, d. Ken Jones, marries > Bob Smith, he dies, she marries Sam Brown. I name her Alice (Jones) (Smith) > in the Brown marriage record. If I do not know her father's name, I call her > Alice (Unknown) (Smith). This keeps the trail record so I know who I am > talking about. > I am following this guideline in my current project of digitizing the > Amherst MA VRs. > Carl Hommel > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosemarie Novak > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:11 PM > To: wells@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WELLS] Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! > > > Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! - - > As ALL professional genealogists do, we document our sources. - - > 1.) NEVER ever put a woman's last name in parentheses meaning its her maiden > name because it may be the last name of a previous husband. - - Until you > have a BIRTH RECORD or MARRIAGE RECORD that shows the names of her father > and mother, you do NOT know that is her maiden name. > - - > 2.) NEVER ever accept anything on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com as the REAL DEAL! > If they list the documentation, "Sources", then yes. If not, its just a > guideline for you to find your OWN documentation. > - - > 3.) The capital letters I use are for emphasis on the words I want you to > pay attention to. - I'm NOT yelling. > > > > ****** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is what I do, Jean ... If the maiden name is unknown I fill surname with 5 'underscore' ... that way on paper it can be filled in if found. The maiden name I always put in parenthesis. I probably overdo it in the Merge as I want anyone searching to be able to find her under any of her surnames .. :o) Maiden: Jane ____ 1st marriage Mrs. Jane DOE (_____) 2nd marriage Mrs. Jane BROWN (_____) When there are step children I always add a marriage name for her previous marriage. Lady Bonita Nevada, USA High Desert Embroidery http://www.highdesertemb.com highdesertembroidery@gmail.com Wells Surname DNA Study Merge http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hillmer/DNA/index.htm Hillmer Surname Database http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hillmer/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: wells-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wells-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Leeper Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:19 PM To: wells@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WELLS] Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! I believe it is correct to use the maiden name not a former spouse's name. I add other spouse names into my note field and link her to her other husband(s) in my genealogical program. Thus if you do not know the maiden name leave blank. For anyone doing otherwise I think they should check and see what professional genealogist say is proper, otherwise all we do in confuse others further down the road. Jean Leeper grannyroots@iowatelecom.net "Watch What You Say or Do, You Might Sell Your Parrot To The Town Gossip and If You Don't Have A Parrot Someone Above May Be Watching You" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanlee Cedar Creek Cemetery http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanlee/cedarcreekcemetery .htm Salem Friends Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ialqm/SalemSouthCemetery.html Lewelling Quaker Museum http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ialqm/index.htm On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Carl Hommel wrote: > Since we are discussing not agreeing tonight, I do not agree with (1) below. > When I put a woman's last name in parenthesis, it means it was her > last name before the marriage under discussion. Say Alice Jones, d. > Ken Jones, marries Bob Smith, he dies, she marries Sam Brown. I name > her Alice (Jones) (Smith) in the Brown marriage record. If I do not > know her father's name, I call her Alice (Unknown) (Smith). This keeps > the trail record so I know who I am talking about. > I am following this guideline in my current project of digitizing the > Amherst MA VRs. > Carl Hommel > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosemarie Novak > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:11 PM > To: wells@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WELLS] Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! > > > Its ok to assume but Never count it as Gospel! - - As ALL > professional genealogists do, we document our sources. - - > 1.) NEVER ever put a woman's last name in parentheses meaning its her > maiden name because it may be the last name of a previous husband. - - > Until you have a BIRTH RECORD or MARRIAGE RECORD that shows the names > of her father and mother, you do NOT know that is her maiden name. > - - > 2.) NEVER ever accept anything on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com as the REAL DEAL! > If they list the documentation, "Sources", then yes. If not, its just > a guideline for you to find your OWN documentation. > - - > 3.) The capital letters I use are for emphasis on the words I want you > to pay attention to. - I'm NOT yelling. > > > > ****** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WELLS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message