I would like to encourage your family as well as all other families, Wells or not, to participate in the Sorenson testing. It does not cost you and you don't get the results but you may be contributing to finding the keys to using DNA for more extensive matching. They need a lot of related individuals to be able to spot the DNA that is dominent when passed on generation to generation (like the red hair, brown eyes etc.) If they can identify stable indicators and tie it into specific lines they may be able to use this for the testing for genealogy. The more we give them, the closer we get to our goals. Even if they don't want to send their DNA to Relative Genetics, we may be able to find the Wells males anyway since we know their DNA. And I now know a way to find other samples. But I am not letting it out because I am not sure they intended for their system to work this way and could shut the door if they find out about it. At 10:00 AM 1/6/2006, Patricia Straube wrote: >This is an opportunity for mtDNA testing for the female part of the >ancestral COUPLE if direct descendants in the female line are known. As the >database keeper for the Aaron Wells and Ruth Wiggins Family Association, I >was able to use my genealogy program (Brothers Keeper) to do a descendant >report in the female line only. I was able to identify many living >descendants, both male and female, fortunately one of whom is known to me >personally. January is the month for the the winter edition of our family >newsletter so I hope to enlist the help of our male Wells descendants who >participated in the initial study to help our Wells cousins who don't carry >the Y chromosome (Family 020) but who still carry the inheritance from our >foremother, Ruth Wiggins. > >This may also help to eventually help identify Ruth's mother. We haven't >definitively proven it yet, but lots of circumstantial evidence indicates >that she was Elizabeth Ashcraft, daughter of Daniel and Elizabeth Ashcraft. >Daniel was killed by Indians at Conococheague Manor Town Creek on 9 Oct >1755 in Maryland > >1. Ruth Wiggins' father was William Wiggins who sold his land in Maryland >with dower rights to his wife Elizabeth before moving to Mason Co., KY. Deed >records show that William Wiggins' land adjoined that of Daniel Ashcraft. > >2. Daniel Ashcraft had a daughter, Elizabeth, of the right age who is >otherwise unaccounted for. > >3. Aaron Wells and Ruth Wiggins named their eldest daughter, Elizabeth >Ashcraft Wells. IF they followed traditional naming customs, this would be >the wife's mother's name. According to the custom, their second son would be >named after the wife's father and indeed this was the case, his name was >William Wiggins Wells. [If this custom was also followed for Aaron, the >evidence indicates that his parents were named Nathan Wells and Rachel >Evans, but this is purely conjecture at this point, since particular >individuals with these names have yet to be identified.] > >4. Aaron and Ruth's twin sons were named Daniel and Uriah, names that were >used extensively in the Ashcraft family. [Twinning was also one of the >inherited traits that many of the descendants of our Wells' family >exhibited, including my own ancestor, their daughter, Ruth (Wells) Callon.] > >Alas, I myself am not one of those in a direct female line from Ruth though >someday I hope to find the mtDNA signature of my own earliest known American >female ancester, Eve Seidelmann, wife of Andreas Gaar of the 1717 Germanna >Colony in Virginia. > >Patricia > >----- Original Message ----- From: "OrinWells" <orinwells@wells.org> >To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:35 PM >Subject: [WELLS-L] DNA - Time for everyone to get tested > > >>I would like to suggest to everyone, whether you are a Wells male or not, >>to get your DNA tested in the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation DNA >>research project. You will be contributing to the science of DNA testing, >>helping their project and possibly helping others who are looking for long >>lost cousins when they are able to connect to your DNA haplotype. >> >>This is open to both men and women. BUT, the hitch is you don't get the >>results of your DNA back from Sorenson. The Molecular Genealogy Project >>is the program through with we originally tested our phase I participants >>for the Wells DNA project. Most of them are now in the on-line database >>where you can search for matching DNA haplotypes (patterns) for >>y-chromosome. If you have your pattern, you can run a search. It takes >>them about 6 months from the time they get your sample to get you into the >>database. And I don't think they have the mtDNA data on-line yet. >> >>This brings us to the other part. Sorenson, for a limited time only, is >>offering a coupon to all participants (past and present) that is good for >>a $95 26 marker y-chromosome OR mtDNA test at Relative Genetics. I have >>talked Relative Genetics into allowing our project members to use the >>coupon $95 plus $40 to get the 43 marker test at $135 - a clear bargain!! >>43 marker? Yes, they have decided that since Family Tree DNA keeps >>claiming that their test is a 37 marker test although it is actually less >>because some of the values are double values on the same markers, that >>Realtive Genetics might as well advertise that theirs is a 43 marker test. >>It is actually 37 markers that returns 43 alleles (values). In the >>reality since DYS464 is now revealing up to 6 values I guess you could >>call it a 45 marker test. >> >>Here is how it works. You sign up at Sorenson. They send you a kit. You >>send back the kit, a consent form and your genealogy. You MUST be able >>to provide AT LEAST 4 generations including yourself. They want more if >>you can provide it. This is not too hard for the first couple of >>generations - you, your parents and your 4 grandparents. I know there are >>some who can not identify their parents let alone grandparents, but this >>is a small group. If you are not able to document the full four >>generations, all is not lost. Read on. >> >>When you send back the kit they will send you a coupon for the Relative >>Genetics $95 27 marker test. You can either use this yourself or pass it >>on to someone else. That means we can use the coupons for those who can >>not make the 4 generation or more genealogy. But you can also use it to >>test a Wells cousin or any other surname cousins if you don't want to or >>can't use it yourself. >> >>What I would like to ask of you is that you let me know if and when you >>participate at Sorenson, get the coupon and how you use it. I want to >>make them aware of how many we send to them. If you don't want to use it, >>please send it to me and I will find someone who can use it. Everyone who >>has ever previously participated in the Molecular Genealogy Project can >>simply go to the website and request a coupon. A few or our participants >>are not in the data base yet and a few more are not there because either >>the BYU group was not able to get two samples (one for our project and one >>for the MGP project), didn't collect a second consent form or lost your >>genealogy. I will be notifying you all and asking you to submit a new >>sample so we can get you into the Sorenson database. >> >>This also serves as a shortcut for those who can't justify the 37/43 >>marker test cost at Relative Genetics. With the 26 marker test we can >>find your test results in the Sorenson database and extract the remaining >>markers - they do not test DYS464 (6 values) but that is only a minor >>problem. >> >>Now, if you are a Wells but someone from your family has already been >>tested so you have been reluctant to get your own DNA tested, do it NOW! >>We can then confirm that you match your cousins at no cost to you and we >>can collect more information on the mutations in various families. If you >>are not a Wells (some other surname but are here because you have Wells >>ancestors) participate yourself and encourage your Wells cousins to >>participate. >> >>Here are the instructions on how to do this: >> >>Go to the following website and follow the instructions as I show them. >> >>http://www.smgf.org >> >>Click on "Participate" at the bottom of the screen >> >>Click on "Request a Free Kit" at the bottom of the next screen >> >>Click the link to read the consent form then return to the request page. >> >>Fill in the requested information on the request form and click on >>"Request Kit" >> >>They will send you the kit and ask for your Gedcom file or paper >>genealogy. The Gedcom/genealogy should be a full 4 generations or more. >>They are also interested in anyone who has ancestry documented in the >>1800s even if there is a flawed branch or two. >> >> >> >> >>Orin R. Wells >>Wells Family Research Association >>P. O. Box 5427 >>Kent, Washington 98064-5427 >><OrinWells@wells.org> >>http://www.wells.org >>Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb >> >>==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >>To search Archives of list go to: >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>and enter list name >> > > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >To contact Listowner, >Send email to: >dwells@zekes.com > Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb