Yes, it would appear that everyone with a 15 on DYS437 is descended from Robert Wells. I have not examined the full connection for those who have been tested with this marker to see if we can tell if it was Robert I (son of Thomas Wells & Frances) or through one of his descendents that this mutation originates, but I have a hunch it probably was Robert - but hunches are not very good science. Someone needs to take a closer look at the descendents we have tested and see who the most recent common ancestor is to help us get a closer identification. I am not aware of any mutations on DYS452. Everyone tested from W006 has a 25 on this locus. To nail down where a mutation comes into play requires several descendents from an ancestor to be tested. If we find two or more descendents of a common ancestor who share the mutation but are descended from different sons of the common ancestor we can be reasonably sure the common ancestor had the mutation. In the case of the branch down from Robert, we have quite a few who are descended from Robert Wells and Mary Downing. So we can be certain the mutation was present with this Robert. But I don't know without examining the other descendent trees where it kicked in above this point. At 06:48 AM 7/24/2009, Leslie W Wells wrote: >Orin, > > Regarding baseline family W006 it seems that two lines of descent > are marked by mutations. You had mentioned that Roberts > descendants were distinguished by a mutation on DYS437 and > yesterday I was reading a post that might indicate that Nathan's > descendants may also be recognized by a mutation on DYS452. My > question is do we have any idea how far up the tree these mutations > run, with which generation do they originate? Thanks so much for your time. > >Leslie. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <[email protected]> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

Thank you Orin....for all that you do on the entire Wells site. My best to you, Carolann > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:02:34 -0700 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WELLS] mutations > > Yes, it would appear that everyone with a 15 on DYS437 is descended > from Robert Wells. I have not examined the full connection for those > who have been tested with this marker to see if we can tell if it > was Robert I (son of Thomas Wells & Frances) or through one of his > descendents that this mutation originates, but I have a hunch it > probably was Robert - but hunches are not very good science. Someone > needs to take a closer look at the descendents we have tested and see > who the most recent common ancestor is to help us get a closer identification. > > I am not aware of any mutations on DYS452. Everyone tested from W006 > has a 25 on this locus. > > To nail down where a mutation comes into play requires several > descendents from an ancestor to be tested. If we find two or more > descendents of a common ancestor who share the mutation but are > descended from different sons of the common ancestor we can be > reasonably sure the common ancestor had the mutation. In the case of > the branch down from Robert, we have quite a few who are descended > from Robert Wells and Mary Downing. So we can be certain the > mutation was present with this Robert. But I don't know without > examining the other descendent trees where it kicked in above this point. > > At 06:48 AM 7/24/2009, Leslie W Wells wrote: > >Orin, > > > > Regarding baseline family W006 it seems that two lines of descent > > are marked by mutations. You had mentioned that Roberts > > descendants were distinguished by a mutation on DYS437 and > > yesterday I was reading a post that might indicate that Nathan's > > descendants may also be recognized by a mutation on DYS452. My > > question is do we have any idea how far up the tree these mutations > > run, with which generation do they originate? Thanks so much for your time. > > > >Leslie. > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Orin R. Wells > Wells Family Research Association > P. O. Box 5427 > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 > <[email protected]> > http://www.wells.org > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports

I have started documenting the descendants of Thomas' son, Robert's son, Jeremiah Wells, who was the sole heir at the time of Robert's will. I have traced Jeremiah's sons from Washington Co., Maryland to Hawkins Co., Tennessee and points west. Go to http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=w006&id=I1 Click on any name to see the documentation. There appears to be plenty of possible descendants of Jeremiah for testing which would answer this question. Patricia Straube On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM, OrinWells <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, it would appear that everyone with a 15 on DYS437 is descended > from Robert Wells. I have not examined the full connection for those > who have been tested with this marker to see if we can tell if it > was Robert I (son of Thomas Wells & Frances) or through one of his > descendents that this mutation originates, but I have a hunch it > probably was Robert - but hunches are not very good science. Someone > needs to take a closer look at the descendents we have tested and see > who the most recent common ancestor is to help us get a closer > identification. > > I am not aware of any mutations on DYS452. Everyone tested from W006 > has a 25 on this locus. > > To nail down where a mutation comes into play requires several > descendents from an ancestor to be tested. If we find two or more > descendents of a common ancestor who share the mutation but are > descended from different sons of the common ancestor we can be > reasonably sure the common ancestor had the mutation. In the case of > the branch down from Robert, we have quite a few who are descended > from Robert Wells and Mary Downing. So we can be certain the > mutation was present with this Robert. But I don't know without > examining the other descendent trees where it kicked in above this point. > > At 06:48 AM 7/24/2009, Leslie W Wells wrote: > >Orin, > > > > Regarding baseline family W006 it seems that two lines of descent > > are marked by mutations. You had mentioned that Roberts > > descendants were distinguished by a mutation on DYS437 and > > yesterday I was reading a post that might indicate that Nathan's > > descendants may also be recognized by a mutation on DYS452. My > > question is do we have any idea how far up the tree these mutations > > run, with which generation do they originate? Thanks so much for your > time. > > > >Leslie. > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Orin R. Wells > Wells Family Research Association > P. O. Box 5427 > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 > <[email protected]> > http://www.wells.org > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >