This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CLARK, DAVIS, MANARO, WILLETT, KRAWCZYK, WELLS, WILLIAMS, ROEMER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SCWBAIB/4390 Message Board Post: Don J. Clark died Nov. 29, 2005 at age 65. Mr. Clark was born Jan. 24, 1943, in San Jose, Calif., and moved to Portland as a child. Her served in the Army and later was a jeweler, consultant, and general manager working for several companies in various Northwest locations. He most recently worked for Fred Meyer Fine Jewelry in several Portland aria stores and was living in Hillsboro. In 1965, he married Barbara DAVIS. Survivors include his wife; son, Jon; stepsons, Michael MANARO, and Ross MANARO; stepdaughters, Sandi WILLETT and Kelli KRAWCZYK; mother, Evelyn WELLS; sister, Kathleen WELLS, Terri WILLIAMS and Phyllis ROEMER; nine grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. Arrangements by Alternative Burial & Cremation. NOTE: I have no connection to this family. I am only providing information for the use of others. SOURCE: The Oregonian, Monday, December 5, 2005

Anyone come across William Swan Wells, bn 1811 in CT who married a Reinhardt in NC and/or his sister, Susan Wells who married a Thorp? I have looked all over for years, asked storks, and am about to begin looking in cabbage patches! Please any connection or thoughts or just a hi! :) Catherine Wells Mensi

Do you have any birth dates and specific locations? At 06:06 PM 12/9/2005, jubargeon wrote: >Am looking for information on James Halan Wells of Tn/Ky who was >married to "Belle Ingram during 1914. Is there a family of >Tennessee that James Halan or Halan James may belong to? >Judy in MI > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >Wells Surname List Home Page >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~daveslists/wells/windex.html Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

I looked on the LDS site and saw the info for Jacob Porter Wells - same one? It shows a son for him by the name of William and born the same year as my William would have been. But I don't think he was my William after all, who went from TN to TX. Another lister has Bible information that indicates my William was Benjamin Wells' s brother and they were the sons of James C. Wells. He was very nice to share and I hope I have stated the info correctly - I don't have any of my files handy right now. Karen >From: OrinWells <orinwells@wells.org> >Reply-To: WELLS-L@rootsweb.com >To: WELLS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WELLS-L] MARTIN WELLS >Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 08:58:25 -0800 > >Whether Martin died of snake bite or not is still unclear. There is much >yet to be learned about the earlier generations of this family. It is, >for example, very questionable that Jacob Wells I came from Switzerland >although many in the area where he lived did come from there. > >There is another theory that he came from Germany with the Palatine >immigration but there is no proof there either. The only shred of >circumstantial evidence has to do with a list of names found in the English >archives showing a Jacob Wels in conjunction with a Daniel Teachey (I think >that was the name). But there is no evidence to link them to North >Carolina. > >The third and most recent theory is that Martin, Henry and Jacob were >grandsons of Richard Wells and Mary Martin of Anne Arundel Co., Maryland >through a son Martin. Again, no proof and until we find a willing >descendent of another of their sons we will not be able to check that >theory. > >At 04:28 AM 12/9/2005, Catherine Fussell Wells wrote: >>Orin, >> >>In the Wells book, Martin was listed as having died early - snake bite, I >>believe. There were several from this line who came with my Fussell line >>to >>south Georgia in the late 1820's. David Wells being one of them. He and >>some of his family ended up in Texas. >> >>Catherine >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "OrinWells" <orinwells@wells.org> >>To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:20 AM >>Subject: Re: [WELLS-L] MARTIN WELLS >> >> >> > "Ellen" <JKWILSONFL@aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > No, I have not met Joyce but would like to connect with her and >>share >>info >> > >on our family lines. >> > >> > I will send you her address off list. I can not be certain the >> > address is still current, but it is worth a try to compare notes. >> > >> > >> > >What does family W024 mean??? >> > >> > Sorry. I forget everyone does not know what we are doing. For the >> > past 5 years (how time flies!) we have been running the Wells DNA >> > study. In the first phase of the project we identified 24 families >> > we believed we could find enough participants to identify the family >> > y-Chromosome DNA. This is done by finding two or more descendents >> > who are widely enough separated on their family tree to give us >> > confidence the DNA was representative of the "baseline" family, >> > testing their DNA and matching it. We actually attempted to find >> > four descendents from four different branches (sons of the earliest >> > ancestor) where possible. We did not succeed in all cases but in most >>we >>did. >> > >> > We have since carried on testing still more male Wells descendents to >> > see which baseline family they might match up with. Some didn't and >> > in some cases we have uncovered additional "baseline families" - we >> > are up to 40 now. One we can not find any descendents to test and >> > three are actually being rolled into other families where we >> > discovered they were actually one and the same. I will be posting >> > the revised baseline data on Saturday. >> > >> > I assigned arbitrary family ids to each of these families. W001 >> > through W040 currently for the baseline families and W050 through >> > W365 (last count) for various ancestors who are in a branch >> > representing the ancestor of a participant from whom only that >> > participant is descended. Family W024 is the family of Jacob Wells >> > b: Cir 1680 who lived in Duplin County, North Carolina. This family >> > stayed in this area of North Carolina for many years. But looking at >> > the data I have from the family I do not see your Martin indicated. >> > >> > You can view the DNA results by checking the following link: >> > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html >> > >> > (click results to see the data). >> > >> > The project is still open to any Wells males who want to see if they >> > connect with the baselines or anyone else we have tested so >> > far. Contact me for more information. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Orin R. Wells >> > Wells Family Research Association >> > P. O. Box 5427 >> > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 >> > <OrinWells@wells.org> >> > http://www.wells.org >> > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb >> > >> > >> > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >> > To unsubscribe from this list >> > send the command "unsubscribe" >> > to WELLS-L-request@rootsweb.com for list mode >> > or WELLS-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest mode >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: >>12/7/2005 >> > >> > >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 >> >> >>==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >> Please Support Rootsweb > > >Orin R. Wells >Wells Family Research Association >P. O. Box 5427 >Kent, Washington 98064-5427 ><OrinWells@wells.org> >http://www.wells.org >Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > Don't Forget > The Wells Family Research Association > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/wfrahome.html >

Thought you might enjoy an essay on DNA testing by the developer of GenSmarts (a great research tool) http://www.gensmarts.com/dnaEssay.html GenSmarts Failsafe UpdatThis essay is sponsored by GenSmarts, which, for a one time charge of $24.95 and free updates is an incredible value in a genealogy research tool. Check out the free trial if you haven't heard of it. You're free to reprint/republish this essay as long as you leave the "about the author" paragraph at the end in tact. Send an email to aaron@gensmarts.com if you'd like an MS Word version of this article. Starting With the Answer (Becoming a DNA time traveler...) Typical genealogy research involves pushing back your ancestry lines, generation by generation, to discover your ancestors. How would it change your research approach if you started with the answer - if you knew who from the early 1700's you descended from, for example, but didn't know the details of how. If that sounds like fun to you and you have $150-$300 burning a hole in your pocket, read on... Researching my genealogy is a hobby I've always done for fun. I like history and there's something about understanding my personal connections to it that makes it even more interesting. I make my living from technology, so when I heard that DNA analysis could be applied to Genealogy... I was curious on a couple of levels, and decided to get tested. The following essay covers what I've learned from the experience. Speaking as a lay person, I'm no doubt over-simplifying and perhaps even unknowingly fudging a fact here or there. As with all information... consider the source. DNA are the bits of biological information we all carry around that makes us unique - the stuff that determines, out of all the possibilities our bodies have... which specific set of characteristics an individual is given to work with. You get roughly half of this stuff from your mom and half this stuff from your dad, and in turn contribute half of what you got to your children. Which half? Well, nature loves both trial and error and continuing a good thing, so some portions are passed randomly, some portions are passed strictly father to son, mother to son, and mother to son and daughter. It's these "strict" portions that we're interested in for genealogy research purposes, because they prove a relationship. The amount of information contained in your DNA is huge... even small portions of it contain enough information to uniquely identify you apart from any other person. That's what a paternity test is - an analysis of a portion of the stuff that's passed parent to child. Now for the big ah-ha... if this stuff is unique between a father and a son, wouldn't it be unique for a grand-father and a grandson? YES. How about a great-grand-father and a great-grandson? YES. Now, before you get too excited, observe that this method of identification only works for one of two grand-fathers I have. Why? Because the DNA my father and I share obviously isn't shared by my mother's dad (they're not related biologically at all, or at least I hope they weren't :-)... so it uses the requires an unbroken chain of the same-sex to work for identity purposes- either male to male to male or female to female to female. Ok, if you're a deep thinker, at this point you might be wondering... "Hey, if a human male always passes these same bits to his son, why wouldn't all human males have the same bits?" Well, it turns out that every so often, nature, who loves trial and error, randomly tweaks these "strictly passed" bits so they're ever so slightly different between father and son (or mother and daughter - I'll explain later why I'm use father-son examples). Over a long time span, these occasional tweaks add up to some vary diverse bits of information. This occasional diversity is a boon for genealogists... since this rate of change is rather predictable and steady. In the commonly used male to male DNA bits, the rate of change is generally one change every 7 or 8 generations. So if a fellow researcher of my surname and I share the exact same bits, then we know we likely share a common father in the past 7 or 8 generations. If our bits are one step different, then it's probably 7-15 generations ago that we had a common father, etc. Different bits of the DNA do vary at different rates, so you can get a bit more precise by looking at the specific bit that's different. Ok, back to you deep thinkers... "Wait, if we know the rate of change of these bits of DNA, couldn't we do a sampling of all current DNA in the world and do some fancy math to figure out how long it took for it to diverge this much? And wouldn't that say something about the origins of all of us?" Yes, in theory. The Seven Daughters of Eve by Bryan Sykes is seen as one of the seminal books on that subject for lay people, if you're interested. Getting back to genealogy... my mom's a Fike. She calls herself a Fike because that was her name growing up - her identity. She looked like and acted like people of that name who lived in the area because they were all part of the same extended family. For DNA identity purposes, my mother's not a FIKE. Why? Remember DNA identity only works along strictly male or strictly female lines. FIKE is a surname. Surnames are passed down from male to male to male. So while my mother has a unique DNA that ties here to her mother (a DAVIS) and to her mother before her (an ENNIS)... most culture's don't assign a consistent name to that. To make things tougher for female research, the strictly passed female to female bits of DNA don't vary much over time (compared to the male to male bits) so it's harder to pin down the time frame of a relationship. So most people using DNA for genealogy purposes are doing so for surname research, which is male to male to male... the same as those unique "male to male" bits of DNA. That's why I used father to son examples earlier. People of the same surname form "surname projects", typically to try and collect samples of that surnames DNA. With enough samples, patterns emerge as to how many different "lines" of that surname exist. For example, in the US, with a surname like Hancock, and 35 or so samples collected, a pattern showing 3 or 4 original ancestors has emerged. If you're researching a Hancock, and you can get a male Hancock from your family (or yourself if it's your surname) to test for you... chance are reasonable that you'll tie to one of those known ancestors. Now that you know your original ancestor, you can research from both ends - from the original ancestor forward, and from your known ancestor backwards. With the Underwood surname project, it took us 6 samples before we found two people that were related. My advice, money and fun aside, is to seriously consider using DNA testing for your lines where: a) you have a male by that surname that can be tested, b) there's an existing "surname project" with 20 or more samples already collected, c) and your surname isn't Smith or Jones. Family Tree DNA is probably the most popular vendor for adhoc surname projects and you'll find their list here ( http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp ). Relative Genetics ( http://www.relativegenetics.com/ ) has a higher end service that's more appropriate for established groups or to support things like family reunions and such. And there are others... You'll find there are different types of test. The male to male test is called a YDNA test, and it's offered in different depths (typically something like 12 marker, 25 marker and 37 marker). While the 12 marker test is cheaper, it's not very useful in the surname projects I've described, because 12 markers simply aren't unique enough to tell you much. I did the 25 marker test, and so far haven't had any need for more resolution than that, so would suggest you start with that. Most companies will let you "upgrade" your test later to include more markers, so you don't have to resample and retest all over again. There are a couple of forms of the test and sampling - from scrapping your cheek with a little device that looks like a piece of hard felt to a mouth wash that you swirl and deposit in a vial. You take the sample yourself and it's easy and not painful in any way. The sample is mailed in and results come back in 4-6 weeks. No doubt some people are worried about the privacy of all this... As you would expect, the companies that do the analysis for you are very serious about protecting it and provide a number of safeguards and guarantees. From my perspective, my DNA is already compromised - I discard it all the time in a variety of ways. If someone wanted it bad enough, they could take it without me ever knowing. So my opinion about the privacy of my own DNA is something I don't really have anyway... but that's just my opinion. I'm glad I had my DNA analyzed. I haven't turned up any related fellow researchers yet, but I really think it's just a matter of time before I make a connection. About The Author: R. Aaron Underwood is a software author (the genealogy product GenSmarts - http://www.GenSmarts.com ) , living with his wife and three kids in Long Grove, IL, and has enjoyed Genealogy as a hobby for the past 30 years. He can be reached at aaron@GenSmarts.com Bonita \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo---- Just Lurking ... Lady Bonita Arizona, USA

Sorry Dave but I tried to send you a email last night and it came back. Tom Wells - Daytona Beach, FL -----Original Message----- From: Dave Wells <dwells@zekes.com> Sent: Dec 8, 2005 7:47 PM To: WELLS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WELLS-L] Hello As your listowner, I've been gone al lot. Rootsweb has bounced me off at least twice and I've been changing mail to a new computer so, if I missed anything or anybody that needed my attention, please let me know. thanks Dave ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== Join Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com

Whether Martin died of snake bite or not is still unclear. There is much yet to be learned about the earlier generations of this family. It is, for example, very questionable that Jacob Wells I came from Switzerland although many in the area where he lived did come from there. There is another theory that he came from Germany with the Palatine immigration but there is no proof there either. The only shred of circumstantial evidence has to do with a list of names found in the English archives showing a Jacob Wels in conjunction with a Daniel Teachey (I think that was the name). But there is no evidence to link them to North Carolina. The third and most recent theory is that Martin, Henry and Jacob were grandsons of Richard Wells and Mary Martin of Anne Arundel Co., Maryland through a son Martin. Again, no proof and until we find a willing descendent of another of their sons we will not be able to check that theory. At 04:28 AM 12/9/2005, Catherine Fussell Wells wrote: >Orin, > >In the Wells book, Martin was listed as having died early - snake bite, I >believe. There were several from this line who came with my Fussell line to >south Georgia in the late 1820's. David Wells being one of them. He and >some of his family ended up in Texas. > >Catherine > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "OrinWells" <orinwells@wells.org> >To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:20 AM >Subject: Re: [WELLS-L] MARTIN WELLS > > > > "Ellen" <JKWILSONFL@aol.com> wrote: > > > > No, I have not met Joyce but would like to connect with her and share >info > > >on our family lines. > > > > I will send you her address off list. I can not be certain the > > address is still current, but it is worth a try to compare notes. > > > > > > >What does family W024 mean??? > > > > Sorry. I forget everyone does not know what we are doing. For the > > past 5 years (how time flies!) we have been running the Wells DNA > > study. In the first phase of the project we identified 24 families > > we believed we could find enough participants to identify the family > > y-Chromosome DNA. This is done by finding two or more descendents > > who are widely enough separated on their family tree to give us > > confidence the DNA was representative of the "baseline" family, > > testing their DNA and matching it. We actually attempted to find > > four descendents from four different branches (sons of the earliest > > ancestor) where possible. We did not succeed in all cases but in most we >did. > > > > We have since carried on testing still more male Wells descendents to > > see which baseline family they might match up with. Some didn't and > > in some cases we have uncovered additional "baseline families" - we > > are up to 40 now. One we can not find any descendents to test and > > three are actually being rolled into other families where we > > discovered they were actually one and the same. I will be posting > > the revised baseline data on Saturday. > > > > I assigned arbitrary family ids to each of these families. W001 > > through W040 currently for the baseline families and W050 through > > W365 (last count) for various ancestors who are in a branch > > representing the ancestor of a participant from whom only that > > participant is descended. Family W024 is the family of Jacob Wells > > b: Cir 1680 who lived in Duplin County, North Carolina. This family > > stayed in this area of North Carolina for many years. But looking at > > the data I have from the family I do not see your Martin indicated. > > > > You can view the DNA results by checking the following link: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html > > > > (click results to see the data). > > > > The project is still open to any Wells males who want to see if they > > connect with the baselines or anyone else we have tested so > > far. Contact me for more information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Orin R. Wells > > Wells Family Research Association > > P. O. Box 5427 > > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 > > <OrinWells@wells.org> > > http://www.wells.org > > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > > > > > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from this list > > send the command "unsubscribe" > > to WELLS-L-request@rootsweb.com for list mode > > or WELLS-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest mode > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > Please Support Rootsweb Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

Orin, In the Wells book, Martin was listed as having died early - snake bite, I believe. There were several from this line who came with my Fussell line to south Georgia in the late 1820's. David Wells being one of them. He and some of his family ended up in Texas. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "OrinWells" <orinwells@wells.org> To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [WELLS-L] MARTIN WELLS > "Ellen" <JKWILSONFL@aol.com> wrote: > > No, I have not met Joyce but would like to connect with her and share info > >on our family lines. > > I will send you her address off list. I can not be certain the > address is still current, but it is worth a try to compare notes. > > > >What does family W024 mean??? > > Sorry. I forget everyone does not know what we are doing. For the > past 5 years (how time flies!) we have been running the Wells DNA > study. In the first phase of the project we identified 24 families > we believed we could find enough participants to identify the family > y-Chromosome DNA. This is done by finding two or more descendents > who are widely enough separated on their family tree to give us > confidence the DNA was representative of the "baseline" family, > testing their DNA and matching it. We actually attempted to find > four descendents from four different branches (sons of the earliest > ancestor) where possible. We did not succeed in all cases but in most we did. > > We have since carried on testing still more male Wells descendents to > see which baseline family they might match up with. Some didn't and > in some cases we have uncovered additional "baseline families" - we > are up to 40 now. One we can not find any descendents to test and > three are actually being rolled into other families where we > discovered they were actually one and the same. I will be posting > the revised baseline data on Saturday. > > I assigned arbitrary family ids to each of these families. W001 > through W040 currently for the baseline families and W050 through > W365 (last count) for various ancestors who are in a branch > representing the ancestor of a participant from whom only that > participant is descended. Family W024 is the family of Jacob Wells > b: Cir 1680 who lived in Duplin County, North Carolina. This family > stayed in this area of North Carolina for many years. But looking at > the data I have from the family I do not see your Martin indicated. > > You can view the DNA results by checking the following link: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html > > (click results to see the data). > > The project is still open to any Wells males who want to see if they > connect with the baselines or anyone else we have tested so > far. Contact me for more information. > > > > > > Orin R. Wells > Wells Family Research Association > P. O. Box 5427 > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 > <OrinWells@wells.org> > http://www.wells.org > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list > send the command "unsubscribe" > to WELLS-L-request@rootsweb.com for list mode > or WELLS-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest mode > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SCWBAIB/4389 Message Board Post: Biography of Benjamin Wells http://www.historicpa.net/bios/2b/benjamin-wells.html

"Ellen" <JKWILSONFL@aol.com> wrote: No, I have not met Joyce but would like to connect with her and share info >on our family lines. I will send you her address off list. I can not be certain the address is still current, but it is worth a try to compare notes. >What does family W024 mean??? Sorry. I forget everyone does not know what we are doing. For the past 5 years (how time flies!) we have been running the Wells DNA study. In the first phase of the project we identified 24 families we believed we could find enough participants to identify the family y-Chromosome DNA. This is done by finding two or more descendents who are widely enough separated on their family tree to give us confidence the DNA was representative of the "baseline" family, testing their DNA and matching it. We actually attempted to find four descendents from four different branches (sons of the earliest ancestor) where possible. We did not succeed in all cases but in most we did. We have since carried on testing still more male Wells descendents to see which baseline family they might match up with. Some didn't and in some cases we have uncovered additional "baseline families" - we are up to 40 now. One we can not find any descendents to test and three are actually being rolled into other families where we discovered they were actually one and the same. I will be posting the revised baseline data on Saturday. I assigned arbitrary family ids to each of these families. W001 through W040 currently for the baseline families and W050 through W365 (last count) for various ancestors who are in a branch representing the ancestor of a participant from whom only that participant is descended. Family W024 is the family of Jacob Wells b: Cir 1680 who lived in Duplin County, North Carolina. This family stayed in this area of North Carolina for many years. But looking at the data I have from the family I do not see your Martin indicated. You can view the DNA results by checking the following link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html (click results to see the data). The project is still open to any Wells males who want to see if they connect with the baselines or anyone else we have tested so far. Contact me for more information. Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

Orin, Thank you for your response and help in locating my Wells line in Florida. My Wells line runs through Arsula Julia Wells, daughter of Berrien Wells, a son of Martin who had seven sons listed in the 1850 census of Putnam County, Fla. still living at home with him and Sarah. Enoch Wells, age 17, born in Ga. JACOB WELLS, age 15, born in Ga HENRY WELLS, age 13, born in Ga Jackson Wells, age 11, born in Ga Frederick Wells, age 8, born in Ga Alexander Wells, age 5, born in Florida BERRIEN WELLS, age 2, born in Florida in April, 1848. Berrien (Berry) A. Wells married Mary Jane (Blossom) Crews. Their children were: Virginia Wells, b abt 1868 ARSULA JULIA WELLS, ( ggrandmother) b March 3, 1876 in Bradford Co., Fl, d Oct 22, 1918, buried in Sapp Cemetery in Starke, Fl. Arsula married John Nathaniel Kelly, son of George Ellison Kelly and Hester Denmark. Locoa Oni Wells, b Sept. 16, 1880, Union co., Fl, d June 15, 1957, Buried in Oakland Cem., Plant City, Fl, married David Gilbert Kelly son of Elias J. Kelly and ElizabethParrish. Virgil Wells, b May 1887 John L. Wells, b Oct 7, 1889, Bradford Co., Fl, d March 9, 1911, buried in Crews Cem, Union Co. Fl, Mary Wells, b July 1895 Lillian Wells, Berrien's mother, Sarah Merritt Wells is buried in the Crews Cemetery with no date of birth or death but lists her age as 70 years old at the time of her death. I do not know where Martin Wells is buried but may be also in the Crews Cemetery in an unmarked grave. I believe he may have died before the 1860 New River Census. No, I have not met Joyce but would like to connect with her and share info on our family lines. What does family W024 mean??? Thanks, Ellen

As your listowner, I've been gone al lot. Rootsweb has bounced me off at least twice and I've been changing mail to a new computer so, if I missed anything or anybody that needed my attention, please let me know. thanks Dave

That was my thought too that this Martin comes from my Wells line-there are plenty of Henry's, Martin's, and Jacob's. I checked my data base for that particular one and did not find him-but I do know that some of that line went to Florida. Mary Beth Marchant

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SCWBAIB/4388 Message Board Post: "Frances Roberta [daughter of Dr. Robert J. Marshall and Sue E. Piersol], born Jan. 7, 1899, married A. A. Wells, of Newell, W. Va., and they reside at East Liverpool [Ohio] where he is engaged in the pottery business. They have a son, A. A. Wells, Jr. Mrs. Wells is a graduate of Penn Hall College, Chambersburg, and Bowling Green University, Kentucky; ..." From the biography of Dr. Robert J. Marshall http://www.historicpa.net/bios/2r/robert-j-marshall.html

Given the name "Martin Wells" and the location of North Carolina I would suspect this might be a connection to what we are calling family W024 descended from Jacob Wells b: Cir 1680 of Duplin Co., NC. It is possible that Jacob had brothers named Henry and Martin. The names Jacob, Henry and Martin were used repeatedly down these branches. Ellen, are you acquainted with Joyce Vorwaller of Jacksonville, FL? She too is from your family with connection to Berrien Wells. At 05:17 PM 12/7/2005, JKWILSONFL@aol.com wrote: >I am searching for a Martiin Wells, b about 1796 in North Carolina who >married Sarah Merritt. Martin and his wife and family were found in >the 1850 >census of Putnam County, listing him as age 54 and Sarah as age >50. They had >seven sons with the youngest, Berrien Wells, born April 1848 >in Florida. Berry >Wells married Mary Jan (Blossom) Crews, daughter of Samuel Crews and Mary >Johns. > >Does anyone connect to this family??? > >Ellen Oliver Wilson > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >To search Archives of list go to: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >and enter list name Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SCWBAIB/4383.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I suppose it could be a long shot, but Bronk/Brunk has never shown up anyplace. I also never heard of Sally and Elsa or Elsie being interchangable. Joachim and some spelling of Woodard/Woodward do fit. I sent you our pre 1900 family listing in conjunction with the DNA study. We believe our "Elsie/Elsa" later may have married Benjamin Bates. Benjamin was living in Macomb Co. Michigan as early as 1860 with George, his wife, Francis and Juliet. We believe the older sister, Elizabeth, was also in Michigan living in Jackson Co. married to Henry Melosh. We don't find Elsa/Elsie in Michigan until the 1870 Census.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SCWBAIB/4383.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Robert: My reason for sending was that Sally Bronk/Brunk remarried to a Woodworth / Woodard. Some of her children .. both WELLS and Woodworth / Woodard ... moved to Michigan. The spelling of these names are all over the place. Originally I found Sally's name as Blowers and Bowers ... her first husband was Joachim Wells.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SCWBAIB/4383.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, none of these names are familiar or match any known or existing links.

I am searching for a Martiin Wells, b about 1796 in North Carolina who married Sarah Merritt. Martin and his wife and family were found in the 1850 census of Putnam County, listing him as age 54 and Sarah as age 50. They had seven sons with the youngest, Berrien Wells, born April 1848 in Florida. Berry Wells married Mary Jan (Blossom) Crews, daughter of Samuel Crews and Mary Johns. Does anyone connect to this family??? Ellen Oliver Wilson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SCWBAIB/4383.1.1 Message Board Post: try this message http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WELLS/2005-05/1116751671 and http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WELLS/2005-05/1116996158 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WELLS/2005-05/1117141054 I am seeking information on a William WELLS or WELLES b: c 1756 who married a Catrina or Cathrina BRONK or BRONCK or BRUNK or BRUNCK about 1789-1785. They supposedly had at least 3 sons: William, Richard and Jacobus / James. Jacobus / James b: 1785 married a Sally BLOWERS b: 1790 about 1811. Supposedly had 4 children: John B 1812, Richard 1815, Julia Ester c1817-1820 (m: James Blowers), Sarah Ellen c1821 (m. Horace Darling). They lived near Mayfield, Montgomery / Fulton Co., NY. Jacob died beford Dec 1821 when Sally married Samuel WOODWORTH. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WELLS/2005-05/1117576462