As I have ordered the kit direct from Sorenson should I cancel and order through you. Jim F

Here is my question to them and their answer: " Your Comments: How is this test helping me, if I don't get the results? Sharon, We don’t provide individualized results, but the results are searchable through our website. If a person has their genetic makeup they can see any additions that have been made to a pedigree. You could also find others who have extended their pedigree past your own. This could extend your own pedigree. By participating, you could also help out another individual who has been struggling with their genealogy. Your chart could be the means to overcoming a block that has been a problem in a family for years. Adam Hock Sorensen Molecular Genealogy Foundation" What I want to know is how do I get my genetic makeup if they don't give me the result? Can you get me tested under your lab, even though I am a female. I can not afford to pay 300-400 dollars to get a test done on my own, so help!!!!!! Sharfi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wells, Mackey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SCWBAIB/3324.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks a lot, Kathryn! That's why I couldn't find him after the 1830! I was searching for William Wells! So he must have died after the 1840 Oldham Census. I don't guess there's any way of finding his grave.

Catherine Wells Mensi -----Original Message----- From: OrinWells [mailto:orinwells@wells.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:51 AM To: WELLS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WELLS-L] The real story about the Sorenson coupons OK, I have had an exchange with Relative Genetics regarding the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation coupons for participants. The coupon, as some of us have discovered, is not really a paper coupon. What they send you is a promotion code. DO NOT try to apply this coupon through the Relative Genetics link that is sent to you by Sorenson unless you want to pre-pay for your testing and ONLY then if you are interested in the 26 marker test. They have no web entry available for the discount on this coupon for the 43 marker test at $135. You will have to coordinate through me. What we will do is order the kit from Relative Genetics and I will advise them before they send the kit that you will be using the Sorenson promotion code for the test. They will include paperwork to apply the code, get you into the Wells project (even if you are testing for some other surname or the mtDNA test for maternal line) and pay when you send the sample in for testing. We have a special deal with them for the 43 marker testing that they are not making generally available. If you are participating in the Sorenson Testing (I would like to see EVERYBODY do this) and you have no need for the promotional discount on the Relative Genetics testing, send me the code and I will keep track of them and try to apply them to others for testing in our project. You can also give them to other researchers you know or other family members to be tested for any surname male line or the mtDNA test. The promotion codes are good only for 90 days after they are issued. If you do participate in the Sorenson testing, PLEASE let me know so I can track who all we have participating. I want to make sure they know what good things we are doing for them so they will continue to do good things for our project. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask me. Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== Please Support Rootsweb

I received the Sorenson Test Kit today. Will get it sent back and send you the promotion code when given so that it can be used for a male Wells. Mary Beth Marchant

The delay between order and receipt of the kit seems to vary from time to time. Yours only seems to have taken 5 days. At 11:21 AM 1/11/2006, Mbmjlm22@aol.com wrote: >I received the Sorenson Test Kit today. Will get it sent back and send you >the promotion code when given so that it can be used for a male Wells. Mary >Beth Marchant > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >Wells Surname List Home Page >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~daveslists/wells/windex.html Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

Thanks. Please keep me advised of progress. It can take a couple of weeks before you get the kit it seems. They may be experiencing a sudden rush. <g> At 06:17 AM 1/11/2006, you wrote: >I have applied for the Sorenson kit. Jim Fredlock > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > Join Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

I have applied for the Sorenson kit. Jim Fredlock

I have lost contact with my cousin, Michelle Manley WELLS, wife of Samuel Lindsay Wells. My last e-mail address does not work. Does anyone know her e-mail, phone, or snail address? TIA for your help, Sharon

OK, I have had an exchange with Relative Genetics regarding the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation coupons for participants. The coupon, as some of us have discovered, is not really a paper coupon. What they send you is a promotion code. DO NOT try to apply this coupon through the Relative Genetics link that is sent to you by Sorenson unless you want to pre-pay for your testing and ONLY then if you are interested in the 26 marker test. They have no web entry available for the discount on this coupon for the 43 marker test at $135. You will have to coordinate through me. What we will do is order the kit from Relative Genetics and I will advise them before they send the kit that you will be using the Sorenson promotion code for the test. They will include paperwork to apply the code, get you into the Wells project (even if you are testing for some other surname or the mtDNA test for maternal line) and pay when you send the sample in for testing. We have a special deal with them for the 43 marker testing that they are not making generally available. If you are participating in the Sorenson Testing (I would like to see EVERYBODY do this) and you have no need for the promotional discount on the Relative Genetics testing, send me the code and I will keep track of them and try to apply them to others for testing in our project. You can also give them to other researchers you know or other family members to be tested for any surname male line or the mtDNA test. The promotion codes are good only for 90 days after they are issued. If you do participate in the Sorenson testing, PLEASE let me know so I can track who all we have participating. I want to make sure they know what good things we are doing for them so they will continue to do good things for our project. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask me. Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

Hello, I am still trying to find information/link for Samuel Wells, b. c1820, England, m. c1875 and lived in Rome, Oneida, New York. Helen/Ellen Buckley, b. c1859, County Cork, Ireland, d. October 2, 1929 in Utica, Oneida, New York. She married 2nd, Henry Schumacher. Helen/Ellen's father was William Buckley. Samuel and Helen/Ellen had the following children: Katherine, c1877 Arthur, Feb. 12, 1878 Helen, May 3, 1881 Samuel, July 31, 1884 Any help would be appreciated.

Hi Bailey: I have a Augustine Wells b 19 Mar 1760, Queen Ann County, Mazryland and according to Orin he falls into the DNA family WO16, and branch W060. I see you also have the name Augustine Wells. Is their a possible connection? Jim Fredlock Fredgene29@cs.com

Hi Jim, I was aware of the Augustine Wells b: 1760 in Q.A. Co. MD. and knew his descendants were DNA tested. I do not believe there is a connection to this Charles Augustine Wells as he was born in 1840, and his parents are supposedly known. Thanks for the reply Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: <Fredgene29@cs.com> To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WELLS-L] Daniel Wells families of Ann Arundel Co. MD. > Hi Bailey: > > I have a Augustine Wells b 19 Mar 1760, Queen Ann County, Mazryland > and according to Orin he falls into the DNA family WO16, and branch W060. > > I see you also have the name Augustine Wells. Is their a possible > connection? > > Jim Fredlock Fredgene29@cs.com > > > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > To search Archives of list go to: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter list name > >

Hi Thomas, On Orin's results page 13, I'm ID # 114, family W35, branch W53. I DNA match branches 159 and 291. We are orphans because we do not match any of the 24-28 baseline Wells families. Branch 159 descends from my William Wells/Nancy Sams in 1804 GA. and I converge with branch 291 with his Richard Wells/Elizabeth Dyer circa 1765 in Annapolis, MD. I have been researching in MD. for a couple of years, trying to find a Wells family that had sons named Richard and William, and also trying to keep away from the Little Wells/Big Wells, Thomas Wells, George Wells, Toby Wells, Benjamin Wells and others that have been DNA tested. Over a year ago I found the book "Across the Years in Prince George's County" by Effie Gwynn Bowie. Using pages 470-473 as a guide I sent to the MD. Archives for records, and did a lot of looking at their online records. Some things in the book were correct and some were not. Daniel Wells I did marry a Sarah on Dec.4, 1707 St. Ann's Parish, A.A. Co. MD. The A.A. Co Rent Rolls, Book 5, page 177 is dated Feb. 29, 1699, not 1679, the land surveyed is Bachelor's Delight, 298 acres, and is in Baltimore Co. "In 1707 he planned with Richard Clark of A.A. Co to take a group of Marylanders to Carolina, but the project was opposed by Lord Baltimore." And for good reason! Author Bowie omitted some facts in her book. Proceeding and Acts of the MD. General Assembly, May 19, 1705: Richard Clark was accused of treason, along with unnamed others, of trying to incite the Indians to attack Annapolis. Gleaned from the Proceedings and Acts of the MD. General Assembly, Mar. 1707 to Nov. 1710: Richard Clark, besides being Daniel Wells' brother-in-law (wife not named)and having a son named Neale, was a counterfeiter of Spanish pieces of eight. He had his wife and son try to pass the counterfeit coins, and when confronted, fled the country. Being declared an outlaw, he vowed to return and set Annapolis on fire, steal powder and shot from the Armory, steal a ship, sail it to Whorekill, NC. and become a privateer in the West Indies. Capt. Sylvester Welch, member of the Council, trusted with the County's powder and shot, was accused of selling Daniel Wells 3# of powder. He said his boat sank losing the powder, but was removed from his council seat for lying. Daniel Wells assisted Richard Clark and his companions out of the mouth of the South River on their way to NC. Witnesses then testified that "Daniel Wells was drinking at Christopher Smithers and Mrs. Jane Burrells in Annapolis and talked secretly about taking a shallop to Clark in NC. and taking 40 men with him." I found no records of Daniel Wells I actually going to NC. he must have come to his senses and became a good citizen. There are numerous other records before and after the above. MD. Court of Appeals, Vol. 77, pg. 107, Daniel Wells impaneled on Jury, Sept. 28, 1703 to May 16, 1704. Md. Gen Soc. Vol. 1-38, Vol. 3, # 3, pg. 392 Servants in A.A. Co. "Ann Cape, servant to Daniel Wells, came into court Aug. 10, 1703 and admitted she has run away." Calendar of Wills, liber 25.89 A.A. Co. Will of Gabriel Parrott dated Feb. 13, 1703, probated Oct. 1, 1705. Daniel Wells listed as debtor. Calendar of Wills, liber 19.5.140 A.A. Co. Will of William Brown. Daniel Wells listed as creditor, paid July 1699 from estate. Calendar of Wills, Prerogative Court liber 14.43 A.A. Co. Will of John Howard July 29, 1696, Daniel Wells in list of debtors. Calendar of Wills, Prerogative Court liber 32C.143 A.A. Co. Will of Eleanor Howard Aug. 13, 1711, Daniel Wells in list of debtors. Calendar of Wills, 1703-1715, Vol. 3. Prerogative Court 1708-1711. Will of Nicholas Shepard dated Oct. 29, 1707, probated April 29, 1708. Daniel Wells listed as witness and creditor. Liber 30.243 Oct. 25, 1709, debt paid by executrix Joyce Shepard to Daniel and Sarah Wells. Daniel Wells I must have died intestate, his estate was inventoried Mar. 25, 1715, by Josiah Sutton and Francis Stoall as per Prerogative Court Records 1712-1716, liber 36C folio 187. Estate worth 18: 4: 6. The author, Bowie, skipped Daniel Wells II and went to Daniel Wells III. I did find some records on Daniel Wells II, of his being witness , creditor or debtor to various wills from 1740's to 1760's. Other things of interest I found on Daniel Wells II: Printed in the Maryland Gazette Thursday, April 11, 1754, # 466. "Sale of household goods at late dwelling house of Daniel Wells, near Mrs. McLeods in Annapolis, for the benefit of creditors." Thursday, April 10, 1755. "Daniel Wells, prisoner in Ann Arundel Co. Prison for debt, will petition the Assembly for relief." July 10, 1755, "Daniel Wells, of Ann Arundel Co. jail petitions the Assembly for "Acts of Relief for Languishing Prisoners." July 24, 1755, # 533, "Daniel Wells, butcher, is now discharged from Ann Arundel Co. Prison, and will carry on his business near the Town Gate." To comply with the "Acts of Relief of Languishing Prisoners" Daniel Wells, before discharge had to give up all real and personal property except clothes, bedding and work tools of self, wife and children. He still owed his creditors and was not allowed to have more than 5 pounds money at any time. If convicted of failure to obey, escape, or more debts, he would be sentenced to stand 2 hours in the pillory and have his left ear cut off. Dec. 13, 1759 # 766, "John Poole reports a strayed horse, please deliver to Daniel Wells of Annapolis." Jan. 21, 1762. "Tipper, James, butcher, came to this place (Annapolis) about 13 or 14 years ago and served his time here with Daniel Wells; if he be living and will apply to the printing office he will hear of something worth inquiring about; after he left Annapolis, he lived some time in Upper Marlboro from whence he removed over to VA. and is supposed to live now not far from Alexandria." Daniel Wells II, born unknown, died before Sept. 28, 1763, the date his estate was inventoried by Charles Wallace and Thomas Campbell. I found no will, but Liber 82.67 A.A. Co. is the estate inventory administered by his wife, Rachel Wells, who appeared in court Oct. 31, 1763 Daniel Wells III: "Daniel Wells III lived in Annapolis; was a large land owner and held a pew in St. Ann's Church." I haven't had time to look for St. Ann's Church records. "In 1778 he took the Oath of Allegiance, and Support to the State of Maryland, in Ann Arundel Co.(D.A.R. Mag. Vol. 5)" According to Maryland Hall of Records, Calendar of Md. State Papers, the Red Book, # 4 Part 3, he took the Oath before the Honorable Thomas Dorsey on Mar. 2nd, 1778. "On Sept. 6, 1780, the Treasurer of the Western Shore was ordered to pay Daniel Wells 9,812 pounds 8s.9d.(MD. Archives, Vol. 43, page 278)" This is found in The Journal and Correspondence of the Council of MD. 1779-1780. Vol. 43, page 278, liber CB.23. Another record: 1781-1784 Vol. 48, page 164, liber CB.78. "Ordered that the Western Shore Treasurer pay to Daniel Wells 11 pounds, 18 shillings, and 6 pence specie due him for rum and beef furnished the French ships of war." I think the 2 above articles are the wrong Daniel Wells, there was a Daniel Wells, shipbuilder, from a different Wells family. From the Md. Archives, Vol. 18, Muster Roll of Md. Troops in the Revolutionary War, ref: I-144, Daniel Wells was a private in Capt. Gilbert Middleton's Independent Company of Militia of Annapolis on Mar. 20, 1779. Way too much money for a private. "The wife named in his will as Susannah was, according to tradition among his descendants, of Dutch or German extraction." Her name was Susannah Mareman, born circa 1746, died Nov. 21, 1821. Obit. printed in the MD. Gazette Nov. 22, 1821. "Died---In this city yesterday morning, Mrs Susannah Wells in the 75th year of her age." Daughter of John and Ann Mareman, of St. Mary's Co. MD. Will of John Mareman, liber 35.143, Oct.2, 1764--Aug. 26, 1765. Will of Ann Mareman, liber 40.1, Oct. 8, 1774--Nov. 12, 1774. Daughter Susannah Wells is named in both wills. Daniel Wells III, b: abt. 1742, d: May 28, 1817. Obit. printed in the MD. Gazette May 29, 1817. "Died---On Friday morning in the 75th year of his age, Daniel Wells." His will was made April 19, 1817 in A.A. Co. Codicil made May 5th 1817, and probated July 1st 1817. This is in Md. Chancery Records, liber 120, folio 141. Children named in his will: "William, Frederick, Anne (m: John Monroe), Daniel (m: Mary Trego or Trigger, Nov. 7th, 1790), Mary (m: Jacob Carter), Sarah (m: John Hyde, Feb. 22, 1789), Richard, Elizabeth (m: Waters), John (m: Elizabeth Hilleary)" Research on the named children: William Wells m: Susannah Garston Jan. 11, 1794, widow of Thomas. Frederick Wells, no information. Anne Wells, m: John Monroe May 14, 1789, in A.A. Co. Daniel Wells, m: Mary Traigger Nov. 27, 1790 in A.A. Co. Daniel and Mary were the parents of Daniel Wells, b: 1794, d: Sept. 12, 1814, during the War of 1812. A hero of the Battle of North Point near Baltimore, he and another teenager, Henry G. McComas, both of Capt. Edward Aisquith's Company of Sharp Shooters, infiltrated enemy lines, fired upon and killed General Ross, commander in Chief if the British forces. Privates Wells and McComas were instantly killed and buried in a common grave in a church yard on Broadway where Johns Hopkins Hospital now stands. Later their bodies were placed in a vault in Greenland Cemetery. On Sept. 13, 1858 the bodies of the two riflemen were disinterred from the vault, laid in state at the old Maryland Institute, and reburied in Ashland Square at Monument and Gay St. In 1873 a 21 foot high obelisk of Baltimore County Marble was built over their grave as a monument to the memory of the two gallant young heroes. Mary Wells m: Jacob Carter Oct. 31, 1801, in A.A. Co. Sarah Jane Wells, b: Feb. 7, 1768, d: Feb. 16, 1841, m: John Hyde Feb. 22, 1789, St. Ann's Parish, buried in Annapolis City Cemetery. Richard Wells, no information. Elizabeth Wells, m: Jacob Waters Sept. 29, 1798 in A.A. Co. John Wells m: 1st, Elizabeth Hilleary, and had issue. Elizabeth died in April 1824, and he m: 2nd, Verlinda Hilleary, Elizabeth's 1st cousin. Children by 2nd wife Verlinda Hilleary: Rebecca Wells, m: Dr. Charles O. Lewis of Bladensburg, MD. Children by 1st wife Elizabeth Hilleary: Elizabeth Wells, d: unmarried Alfred Hilleary Wells, b: 1806, m: Jan. 2, 1836 Sarah Elizabeth Adamson, b: 1816, daughter of Lloyd Adamson and Jane Smith. Children of Alfred Hilleary Wells and Sarah Elizabeth Adamson: Benjamin Franklin Wells b: Oct. 5, 1836 d: Jan. 5, 1865 unmarried Albert Herschel Wells b: Feb. 9, 1838 m: Sarah Ross. Charles Augustine Wells, b: Nov. 3, 1840 P.G. Co. MD. d: Mar. 5, 1924 Miami, FL. m: May 11, 1863 Mary Lucretia Hyatt. Children: Dr. Alfred Hyatt Wells, b: Jan. 26, 1865, m: Georgia Netre Elizabeth Lucretia Wells, b: Oct. 5, 1866, m: Rexford M. Smith. Charles Hyatt Wells, b: Dec. 28, 1867. Dr. Walter A. Wells, b: Mar. 6, 1870, m: Frances Gibson. Charles Archibald Magruder Wells, b: July 10, 1879 m: Alma F. Pyle Mary Lloyd Wells, b: Sept. 3, 1873 m: Edward A. Fuller B.O. Lowndes Wells, b: Mar. 5, 1878 m: Bertha Ross. Dr. Walter Hilleary Wells, b: Sept. 10, 1842 Bladensburg, P.G. Co. MD. d: Jan. 31, 1928, Coffeyville, Montgomery Co. KS. Robert Lloyd Wells, b: Feb. 12, 1846 P.G. Co. MD. m: Laura A. Wann. Daniel Wells, b: May 14, 1848 P.G. Co. MD. m: Jennie G. Ide. On pages 472-3 there is a tribute to Charles Augustine Wells in the "Tercentenary History of Maryland" by Mathew Page Andrews, with more information on him. I traced Dr. Walter Hilleary Wells, his brothers Robert Lloyd Wells and Daniel Wells to Parker and Coffeyville, Montgomery Co. KS. They are there in the 1880-1920 census reports. Robert Lloyd and Daniel have no children listed, Walter Hilleary had one son and one grandson, but I have not been able to find any of their descendants. Bailey Wells Tempe, AZ.

Orin, I participated in the project at a LDS Church several years ago, so I also sent Sorenson E-Mail. This morning I received a reply stating that my coupon was available at their Webbsite. However, they wanted to credit my credit card $95, so I canceled. Carl Hommel -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: D Wells <dick_dkwnet@direcway.com> > Orin > > I beleive I have followed directions correctly. > > Here is what I found: > > 1. Went to Sorenson and requested a coupon from their Web site. > 2. Received back a e-mail "thanking me" for participating. Also received a > "Coupon Code" to use at Relative Genetics. > 3. Went to the RG site in the above e-mail and found they wanted a credit > card for $95 after entering the Coupon. > > Seems the coupon is a $60 discount for the 26 marker test, remaining cost of > $95 to be paid at coupon entry. > > Dick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "OrinWells" <> > To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:35 PM > Subject: [WELLS-L] DNA - Time for everyone to get tested > > > >I would like to suggest to everyone, whether you are a Wells male or not, > >to get your DNA tested in the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation DNA > >research project. You will be contributing to the science of DNA testing, > >helping their project and possibly helping others who are looking for long > >lost cousins when they are able to connect to your DNA haplotype. > > > > This is open to both men and women. BUT, the hitch is you don't get the > > results of your DNA back from Sorenson. The Molecular Genealogy Project > > is the program through with we originally tested our phase I participants > > for the Wells DNA project. Most of them are now in the on-line database > > where you can search for matching DNA haplotypes (patterns) for > > y-chromosome. If you have your pattern, you can run a search. It takes > > them about 6 months from the time they get your sample to get you into the > > database. And I don't think they have the mtDNA data on-line yet. > > > > This brings us to the other part. Sorenson, for a limited time only, is > > offering a coupon to all participants (past and present) that is good for > > a $95 26 marker y-chromosome OR mtDNA test at Relative Genetics. I have > > talked Relative Genetics into allowing our project members to use the > > coupon $95 plus $40 to get the 43 marker test at $135 - a clear bargain!! > > 43 marker? Yes, they have decided that since Family Tree DNA keeps > > claiming that their test is a 37 marker test although it is actually less > > because some of the values are double values on the same markers, that > > Realtive Genetics might as well advertise that theirs is a 43 marker test. > > It is actually 37 markers that returns 43 alleles (values). In the > > reality since DYS464 is now revealing up to 6 values I guess you could > > call it a 45 marker test. > > > > Here is how it works. You sign up at Sorenson. They send you a kit. You > > send back the kit, a consent form and your genealogy. You MUST be able > > to provide AT LEAST 4 generations including yourself. They want more if > > you can provide it. This is not too hard for the first couple of > > generations - you, your parents and your 4 grandparents. I know there are > > some who can not identify their parents let alone grandparents, but this > > is a small group. If you are not able to document the full four > > generations, all is not lost. Read on. > > > > When you send back the kit they will send you a coupon for the Relative > > Genetics $95 27 marker test. You can either use this yourself or pass it > > on to someone else. That means we can use the coupons for those who can > > not make the 4 generation or more genealogy. But you can also use it to > > test a Wells cousin or any other surname cousins if you don't want to or > > can't use it yourself. > > > > What I would like to ask of you is that you let me know if and when you > > participate at Sorenson, get the coupon and how you use it. I want to > > make them aware of how many we send to them. If you don't want to use it, > > please send it to me and I will find someone who can use it. Everyone who > > has ever previously participated in the Molecular Genealogy Project can > > simply go to the website and request a coupon. A few or our participants > > are not in the data base yet and a few more are not there because either > > the BYU group was not able to get two samples (one for our project and one > > for the MGP project), didn't collect a second consent form or lost your > > genealogy. I will be notifying you all and asking you to submit a new > > sample so we can get you into the Sorenson database. > > > > This also serves as a shortcut for those who can't justify the 37/43 > > marker test cost at Relative Genetics. With the 26 marker test we can > > find your test results in the Sorenson database and extract the remaining > > markers - they do not test DYS464 (6 values) but that is only a minor > > problem. > > > > Now, if you are a Wells but someone from your family has already been > > tested so you have been reluctant to get your own DNA tested, do it NOW! > > We can then confirm that you match your cousins at no cost to you and we > > can collect more information on the mutations in various families. If you > > are not a Wells (some other surname but are here because you have Wells > > ancestors) participate yourself and encourage your Wells cousins to > > participate. > > > > Here are the instructions on how to do this: > > > > Go to the following website and follow the instructions as I show them. > > > > http://www.smgf.org > > > > Click on "Participate" at the bottom of the screen > > > > Click on "Request a Free Kit" at the bottom of the next screen > > > > Click the link to read the consent form then return to the request page. > > > > Fill in the requested information on the request form and click on > > "Request Kit" > > > > They will send you the kit and ask for your Gedcom file or paper > > genealogy. The Gedcom/genealogy should be a full 4 generations or more. > > They are also interested in anyone who has ancestry documented in the > > 1800s even if there is a flawed branch or two. > > > > > > > > > > Orin R. Wells > > Wells Family Research Association > > P. O. Box 5427 > > Kent, Washington 98064-5427 > > <OrinWells@wells.org> > > http://www.wells.org > > Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb > > > > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > > To search Archives of list go to: > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > and enter list name > > > > > > > > ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > Join Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SCWBAIB/4383.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Orin R. Wells is the head of the Wells Family Research Association and can help get you started. Orin's e-mail address is orinwells@wells.org Also see http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html Click on 'Current Status" for instructions. I will forward a notice for this message to Orin and he can give you any additional details. The last time I checked I think there were over 300 participants listed and this is how we found our 3 families that all match 100%. Let me know if I can be of more help, and thanks for participating.

Hi Orin, I am afraid I can not help locate this gentleman....BUT if you find him, please send him my way or forward my contact info to him. He may be a missing link for my Delaney Wells line. Thank you, Robin ------------------------------------ Arbonne International Robin S. Whitney Independent Consultant-Executive District Manager robins1952@cox.net 33021 Pinnacle Drive Trabuco Canyon, CA 92679 tel: 949 713-1952 fax: 949 858-4256 mobile: 949 702-2867 www.robin.myarbonne.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: OrinWells [mailto:orinwells@wells.org] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 5:00 PM To: WELLS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WELLS-L] Seeking a researcher Does anyone know who this researcher is? jwells@futura.net He is apparently a descendent of John Wayne Wells b: 20 Aug 1856 m: Mary Frances Johnson b: 19 Sep 1865 (Missouri) d: 01 Sep 1950 (Missouri) It looks like he submitted a DNA sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy project and I would like to contact him to get him to join the project since we already know his DNA and know that it connects to family W011 (Stafford Co., Wells) The email address is no longer valid. Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb ==== WELLS Mailing List ==== Please Support Rootsweb

Does anyone know who this researcher is? jwells@futura.net He is apparently a descendent of John Wayne Wells b: 20 Aug 1856 m: Mary Frances Johnson b: 19 Sep 1865 (Missouri) d: 01 Sep 1950 (Missouri) It looks like he submitted a DNA sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy project and I would like to contact him to get him to join the project since we already know his DNA and know that it connects to family W011 (Stafford Co., Wells) The email address is no longer valid. Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wells, Franchuk, Rose Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SCWBAIB/4383.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, Robert, My brother and myself would love to participate. Please advise, as to what we need to do. Thank You Ric

Again, let me find out what is REALLY going on here. They never mentioned that to me. At 11:35 AM 1/9/2006, D Wells wrote: >Orin > >I beleive I have followed directions correctly. > >Here is what I found: > >1. Went to Sorenson and requested a coupon from their Web site. >2. Received back a e-mail "thanking me" for participating. Also >received a "Coupon Code" to use at Relative Genetics. >3. Went to the RG site in the above e-mail and found they wanted a >credit card for $95 after entering the Coupon. > >Seems the coupon is a $60 discount for the 26 marker test, remaining >cost of $95 to be paid at coupon entry. > >Dick > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "OrinWells" <orinwells@wells.org> >To: <WELLS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:35 PM >Subject: [WELLS-L] DNA - Time for everyone to get tested > > >>I would like to suggest to everyone, whether you are a Wells male >>or not, to get your DNA tested in the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy >>Foundation DNA research project. You will be contributing to the >>science of DNA testing, helping their project and possibly helping >>others who are looking for long lost cousins when they are able to >>connect to your DNA haplotype. >> >>This is open to both men and women. BUT, the hitch is you don't >>get the results of your DNA back from Sorenson. The Molecular >>Genealogy Project is the program through with we originally tested >>our phase I participants for the Wells DNA project. Most of them >>are now in the on-line database where you can search for matching >>DNA haplotypes (patterns) for y-chromosome. If you have your >>pattern, you can run a search. It takes them about 6 months from >>the time they get your sample to get you into the database. And I >>don't think they have the mtDNA data on-line yet. >> >>This brings us to the other part. Sorenson, for a limited time >>only, is offering a coupon to all participants (past and present) >>that is good for a $95 26 marker y-chromosome OR mtDNA test at >>Relative Genetics. I have talked Relative Genetics into allowing >>our project members to use the coupon $95 plus $40 to get the 43 >>marker test at $135 - a clear bargain!! 43 marker? Yes, they have >>decided that since Family Tree DNA keeps claiming that their test >>is a 37 marker test although it is actually less because some of >>the values are double values on the same markers, that Realtive >>Genetics might as well advertise that theirs is a 43 marker test. >>It is actually 37 markers that returns 43 alleles (values). In the >>reality since DYS464 is now revealing up to 6 values I guess you >>could call it a 45 marker test. >> >>Here is how it works. You sign up at Sorenson. They send you a >>kit. You send back the kit, a consent form and your >>genealogy. You MUST be able to provide AT LEAST 4 generations >>including yourself. They want more if you can provide it. This is >>not too hard for the first couple of generations - you, your >>parents and your 4 grandparents. I know there are some who can not >>identify their parents let alone grandparents, but this is a small >>group. If you are not able to document the full four generations, >>all is not lost. Read on. >> >>When you send back the kit they will send you a coupon for the >>Relative Genetics $95 27 marker test. You can either use this >>yourself or pass it on to someone else. That means we can use the >>coupons for those who can not make the 4 generation or more >>genealogy. But you can also use it to test a Wells cousin or any >>other surname cousins if you don't want to or can't use it yourself. >> >>What I would like to ask of you is that you let me know if and when >>you participate at Sorenson, get the coupon and how you use it. I >>want to make them aware of how many we send to them. If you don't >>want to use it, please send it to me and I will find someone who >>can use it. Everyone who has ever previously participated in the >>Molecular Genealogy Project can simply go to the website and >>request a coupon. A few or our participants are not in the data >>base yet and a few more are not there because either the BYU group >>was not able to get two samples (one for our project and one for >>the MGP project), didn't collect a second consent form or lost your >>genealogy. I will be notifying you all and asking you to submit a >>new sample so we can get you into the Sorenson database. >> >>This also serves as a shortcut for those who can't justify the >>37/43 marker test cost at Relative Genetics. With the 26 marker >>test we can find your test results in the Sorenson database and >>extract the remaining markers - they do not test DYS464 (6 values) >>but that is only a minor problem. >> >>Now, if you are a Wells but someone from your family has already >>been tested so you have been reluctant to get your own DNA tested, >>do it NOW! We can then confirm that you match your cousins at no >>cost to you and we can collect more information on the mutations in >>various families. If you are not a Wells (some other surname but >>are here because you have Wells ancestors) participate yourself and >>encourage your Wells cousins to participate. >> >>Here are the instructions on how to do this: >> >>Go to the following website and follow the instructions as I show them. >> >>http://www.smgf.org >> >>Click on "Participate" at the bottom of the screen >> >>Click on "Request a Free Kit" at the bottom of the next screen >> >>Click the link to read the consent form then return to the request page. >> >>Fill in the requested information on the request form and click on >>"Request Kit" >> >>They will send you the kit and ask for your Gedcom file or paper >>genealogy. The Gedcom/genealogy should be a full 4 generations or >>more. They are also interested in anyone who has ancestry >>documented in the 1800s even if there is a flawed branch or two. >> >> >> >> >>Orin R. Wells >>Wells Family Research Association >>P. O. Box 5427 >>Kent, Washington 98064-5427 >><OrinWells@wells.org> >>http://www.wells.org >>Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb >> >>==== WELLS Mailing List ==== >>To search Archives of list go to: >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>and enter list name >> > > > >==== WELLS Mailing List ==== > Join Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com > Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427 Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.wells.org Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb