Eugene was kind enough to clarify that the children born to John and Rachel did not belong to John Sr. and a second wife, Rachel, at all. They were the children of John's son John and his wife Rachel So the second list was grandchildren of the original immigrant not children by a second wife. Thanks so much for the clarification, Eugene. I am beginning to get a little bit of a handle on these Webbs-- I do have one more question. Eugene sent me the following: Among the children of of JAMES WEBB and LETTIE NELSON (this James is the son John Webb and Rachel--grandson of the original immigrant, John) are: v. WILLIAM WEBB, b. 1789. Notes for WILLIAM WEBB: Married Unknown Davenport. This family settled in Franklin Co., KY, for several years before going west. This man is the right age to be my Nancy Webb's father. Nancy and her husband moved to Illinois where there first child was born--probably....later they moved back to Cabell County, WV. They would have moved sometime around 1830 or so. Is there any reason that this William might have moved to Clay County, Illinois. Is there a chance that the Unknown Davenport could have been Nancy? I know that I am grasping at straws...but I sure am having trouble finding Nancy's parents. thanks for your help. Marsha in WV