In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:06:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ditvenet@ezsg.com writes: 1790 Dec 8. Rutherford Co., NC Thomas Herrison of RCNC to WILLIAM WEBB of same, 80 pounds, 250 acres of Second Broad River granted to Stephen Howard 2 March 1775 (150 acres sold to Thomas Baker and from Thomas Baker to Thomas Herrison, and 100 acres adjoining on Muddy Branch). Wit: PLEASANT WEBB, WILLIAM WEBB, JR. , Jonyne Heatherty. #976. Deed Book I & J Page 135 The Second Broad River rang a bell in my head. And I have some information that might be useful. By the way, the Pleasant Webb descendant recently wrote and said he was now ready to send in his kit, but he still hasn't. I will have to write him and see if I can find out what has happened since he wrote that. 1779 NOTE: Rutherford was formed from Tryon Co 20 Jan 1779 Robert Webb entered 50 A on Second Broad River, including Burrel Sims improvement. freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rebalee/Sims/index.htm "ON S side of Second Broad River about 3/4 above Jeremiah Webb" genforum.genealogy.com/nc/rutherford/messages/1636.html 1783 Deed Abraham Kuykendall of Washington Co NC deed to William Webb Second Broad River, Rutherford co, NC found at _www.rootsweb.com/~ncakcdar/abraham3.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncakcdar/abraham3.htm) 1788 f126 #695 10/3/1788 Rutherford Co NC James Webb Sr of SC to David McDow of Rutherford Co NC on Webb Creek No. Side of Broad River adj. William Webb's land PATENT GRANTED TO JAMES WEBB 08/09/1727 1790 Grant #580 p 48 N side Second Broad River adjacent to Thomas Herrison :freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/Johnson/JHN0197part5.htm Raymond Bedford to William Webb 640 A Feb 5, 1792 for 60 pds, patentd by Raymond Bedford 10/1/1783 on Ashworth Creek of Second Broad River about a mile above James Bedford's entry. _http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:TqZ7w2MwFLgJ:ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/bios/bedford.txt_ (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:TqZ7w2MwFLgJ:ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/ bios/bedford.txt) 1794 County is a guess. Deed Book M-Q p 398 14 Aug 1794 Wm Herris of Rutherford CO, NC onveys 100 a to Abraham Clark, Sr of same for 24 pds. Land on both sides of Hinton's Creek of Little Broad River. It being first granted to William Herris by patent 26 Nov 1789 Signed William (x) HERRIS Wit: John WEBB, Alexander GRANT _http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:htVn4Zx5bQwJ:www.isaac-harris-fam.us/gardabookapdx.html_ (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:htVn4Zx5bQwJ:www.isaac-harris-fam.us/gardabookapdx.html) A good geographic description, which I think is accurate, is at _http://www.angelfire.com/tn/blackfamily/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/tn/blackfamily/) land on "both sides of Little Broad River" (i.e., the south side of First Broad River). This land they say Some TOPOZONE data. some of the area referenced may be land which ended up in Cleveland County (hinton's creek and Ashworth creek) Second Broad River Rutherford Chesnee unknown 35.222ºN 81.759ºW Webbs Creek Rutherford Forest City unknown 35.306ºN 81.798ºW I found this account of Pleasant Webb's case in OH. _http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/roth5/history%20375/holmes%20and%20ross%20counties/ross%20county%20 homicides.doc_ (http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/roth5/history%20375/holmes%20and%20ross%20counties/ross%20county%20homicides.doc) . 1186 Ross County Homicides, 1798-1900 1810, [Sept.] Chillicothe, ROS P Class: probable Crime: HOM Rela: WORK EMPLOYEE by EMPLOYEE [THIRD-PARTY] Motive: QUARREL intervention Intox?: Day of week: Holiday?: Time of day: Days to death: HOM: Pleasant Webb m. James Quire Weapon: gun Circumstances: at the salt works Inquest: Indictment? unknown Term?: Court proceedings: unknown. Records missing. Source: Newspaper: SGCA, 9/5/1810 (W): HOM: quarrel at Salt Works between James Bradley and the wife and children of James Quire. Pleasant Webb tried to stop the fight and ended by fatally shooting Mr. Quire. Webb (45) has a w & 5 or 6 ch. Census: nothing Genealogy: Accused 1: Pleasant Webb Ethnicity: nb Prot Race: w Gender: m Age: 45 Literate: Marital Status: m Children: 5 or 6 ch. Occupation: [laborer at salt works] Town: Chillicothe Birthplace: Religion: Organizations: Victim 1: James Quire Ethnicity: [Irish or Scots-Irish] Race: w Gender: m Age: adult Literate: Marital Status: m Children: yes, several Occupation: [laborer at salt works] Town: Chillicothe Birthplace: Religion: Organizations: Anne
Thanks for all of the info. Rutherford Co., North Carolina 1782 W100 WEBB James N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB Jeremiah N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB John N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB Robert N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB Thomas N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB William Jr. N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll 1782 W100 WEBB William Sr. N/A N/A N/A Tax Roll The Thomas Webb and William Webb mentioned in the horse thievery case may have also been these guys. If they put up all of that money for him, they must have been related. I also see a James Webb here. Pleasant's oldest son's name was James. He may have named him after himself. I wonder if this James Webb was actually James Pleasant Webb ... it is a thought. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <AWNRDC@aol.com> To: <WEBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WEBB] Pleasant/Thomas/William Webb In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:06:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ditvenet@ezsg.com writes: 1790 Dec 8. Rutherford Co., NC Thomas Herrison of RCNC to WILLIAM WEBB of same, 80 pounds, 250 acres of Second Broad River granted to Stephen Howard 2 March 1775 (150 acres sold to Thomas Baker and from Thomas Baker to Thomas Herrison, and 100 acres adjoining on Muddy Branch). Wit: PLEASANT WEBB, WILLIAM WEBB, JR. , Jonyne Heatherty. #976. Deed Book I & J Page 135 The Second Broad River rang a bell in my head. And I have some information that might be useful. By the way, the Pleasant Webb descendant recently wrote and said he was now ready to send in his kit, but he still hasn't. I will have to write him and see if I can find out what has happened since he wrote that. 1779 NOTE: Rutherford was formed from Tryon Co 20 Jan 1779 Robert Webb entered 50 A on Second Broad River, including Burrel Sims improvement. freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rebalee/Sims/index.htm "ON S side of Second Broad River about 3/4 above Jeremiah Webb" genforum.genealogy.com/nc/rutherford/messages/1636.html 1783 Deed Abraham Kuykendall of Washington Co NC deed to William Webb Second Broad River, Rutherford co, NC found at _www.rootsweb.com/~ncakcdar/abraham3.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncakcdar/abraham3.htm) 1788 f126 #695 10/3/1788 Rutherford Co NC James Webb Sr of SC to David McDow of Rutherford Co NC on Webb Creek No. Side of Broad River adj. William Webb's land PATENT GRANTED TO JAMES WEBB 08/09/1727 1790 Grant #580 p 48 N side Second Broad River adjacent to Thomas Herrison :freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/Johnson/JHN0197part5.htm Raymond Bedford to William Webb 640 A Feb 5, 1792 for 60 pds, patentd by Raymond Bedford 10/1/1783 on Ashworth Creek of Second Broad River about a mile above James Bedford's entry. _http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:TqZ7w2MwFLgJ:ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/bios/bedford.txt_ (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:TqZ7w2MwFLgJ:ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/rutherford/ bios/bedford.txt) 1794 County is a guess. Deed Book M-Q p 398 14 Aug 1794 Wm Herris of Rutherford CO, NC onveys 100 a to Abraham Clark, Sr of same for 24 pds. Land on both sides of Hinton's Creek of Little Broad River. It being first granted to William Herris by patent 26 Nov 1789 Signed William (x) HERRIS Wit: John WEBB, Alexander GRANT _http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:htVn4Zx5bQwJ:www.isaac-harris-fam.us/gardabookapdx.html_ (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:htVn4Zx5bQwJ:www.isaac-harris-fam.us/gardabookapdx.html) A good geographic description, which I think is accurate, is at _http://www.angelfire.com/tn/blackfamily/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/tn/blackfamily/) land on "both sides of Little Broad River" (i.e., the south side of First Broad River). This land they say Some TOPOZONE data. some of the area referenced may be land which ended up in Cleveland County (hinton's creek and Ashworth creek) Second Broad River Rutherford Chesnee unknown 35.222ºN 81.759ºW Webbs Creek Rutherford Forest City unknown 35.306ºN 81.798ºW I found this account of Pleasant Webb's case in OH. _http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/roth5/history%20375/holmes%20and%20ross%20counties/ross%20county%20 homicides.doc_ (http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/roth5/history%20375/holmes%20and%20ross%20counties/ross%20county%20homicides.doc) . 1186 Ross County Homicides, 1798-1900 1810, [Sept.] Chillicothe, ROS P Class: probable Crime: HOM Rela: WORK EMPLOYEE by EMPLOYEE [THIRD-PARTY] Motive: QUARREL intervention Intox?: Day of week: Holiday?: Time of day: Days to death: HOM: Pleasant Webb m. James Quire Weapon: gun Circumstances: at the salt works Inquest: Indictment? unknown Term?: Court proceedings: unknown. Records missing. Source: Newspaper: SGCA, 9/5/1810 (W): HOM: quarrel at Salt Works between James Bradley and the wife and children of James Quire. Pleasant Webb tried to stop the fight and ended by fatally shooting Mr. Quire. Webb (45) has a w & 5 or 6 ch. Census: nothing Genealogy: Accused 1: Pleasant Webb Ethnicity: nb Prot Race: w Gender: m Age: 45 Literate: Marital Status: m Children: 5 or 6 ch. Occupation: [laborer at salt works] Town: Chillicothe Birthplace: Religion: Organizations: Victim 1: James Quire Ethnicity: [Irish or Scots-Irish] Race: w Gender: m Age: adult Literate: Marital Status: m Children: yes, several Occupation: [laborer at salt works] Town: Chillicothe Birthplace: Religion: Organizations: Anne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message