Oh, bless you! According to the information I have, none of the Angelina (and variants) really fits. The following is the ONLY one with the place of birth I have for her, but the birth year is WAY WAY off. However, I have seen variations in age that big for the same person, so let's take a look at her please. See what surname shows and if she has the daughter with her, but by 1880, E.J. Webb, if she lived, could have been married herself. ::SIGH:: Thank you! Anne WEBB, Angeline Wife <1856> F W MS MS As for James, let's look at this one....if he went AWOL he might lie about birthplace and TX would have been a good place to go! WEBB, James M. Self <1839> M W TN TX Let's look at this one for John. WEBB, John Self <1834> M W GA GA Kim, don't spend a lot of time on this.....just the 1880 possibilities help me. I have absolutely NO clue where they might have been in 1880. I can trace all the likely James & Johns back to 1850 maybe, and eliminate. I was stuck on Angeline, because she could have remarried ANY name in the world!