Dear Carol, Your cousin whose mother was the WEBB will not work as the WEBB Y-DNA did not get passed to her. Therefore his Y-DNA is whatever surname his father was. You didn't indicate whether he was first cousin or another degree, but ANY living male WEBB with no known non-paternity events in his lineage should work. That is if William Ernest has no living male descendants, and his brothers have none, go back a benerations to Jesse Ernest Webb -- male WEBB descendants of his brothers will work, you only have to trace down the lines. If he had no brothers, did William Jason? Can you trace them forward through time? If not, how about William Henry Webb? Of course it's better for you if you can get a donor fewer generations back, but sometimes we have to take the donor we can find who will agree to do it, no? If you need some help with figuring this out or tracing it, I'll be happy to help as I can. I suggest you try to start with a diagram (organizational type tree) of this family, from William Webb (NC>IN) on down. For me, this kind of "overall picture" of the family tree is visually simple and hand for keeping track of the possibilities. You can number the boxes and put the actual name and date and location information in a key below the chart. It's the PICTURE I find useful. No need to put daughters on it unless you want trace those lines to see if you can find a contact who might have information. Anne In a message dated 7/26/2005 11:43:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Anne, My Webb lineage is the following: l. Carol Ann Webb (Brisson) b:1946 in CA 2.William Ernest Webb b: 1912 in Portland, OR d:1990 in CA(father) 3. Jesse Ernest Webb b:1883 in Warrick Co. IN d:1950 in CA (grandfather) 4. William Jason Webb b: 1851 in Warrick Co. IN d: 1940 CA (g-grandfather) 5. William Henry Webb b: 1813 in Gibson Co. IN d: 1878 in Warrick Co. IN (g-g- grandfather) 6. William Webb b: 1792 in NC d:1870 in Boone Co. IN (g-g-g-grandfather) I have exact dates for the above, if needed. All of the above, except for myself, are deceased. My siblings are girls. My cousins are mostly girls (2 boys died leaving no children) and I do have a male cousin, but his mother was a Webb. Can I get a DNA sample from him even though he is not a true Webb? Any other suggestions? Thanks so much for your help! Carol Ann Brisson (nee Webb)